Cultural appropriation? Sure, she is wearing a South Asian style outfit to a North American high school event. No worse than a white person enjoying some vada sambar, a Navajo kid in a Oakland Raiders hoodie, or a black dude getting a bowl of pho. If it wasn't for cultural appropriation, we would all still be living in caves and grunting.
You must not be from Chicago, Bucky. "Go choke on a sausage" is just her way of flirting with you. If I weren't such a "proponet" of classism I wouldn't know that.
When I was traveling with my family in Germany, my mom asked for a recipe when served a dessert at someones' house. She was rebuffed with a "No, this dish should only be made in Germany".
I admire those whom absorb that which another culture has provided. It is a sign of advanced learning and furthers creative development. Anyone standing in the way of that advancement must be detained and questioned ...
>>>>I scratch my head at the dipshits that label Halloween costumes as racist. It’s Halloween and it’s a costume
Really? You don’t understand why white people dressing in black-face for Halloween is messed up? And you think people who think that’s wrong are dipshits??
wow. I’d say you and the black face person were the dipshits in this equation.
>> You don’t understand why white people dressing in black-face for Halloween is messed up?
BrianK's quoted comment came before the blackface picture. He was speaking generally about cultural appropriation in Halloween costumes, not about black face.
Yeah, I was talking about kids dressing as Native Americans and shit, not racist fratboys using Halloween as an excuse to play out their shit in public. There is a huge difference.
i only posted that pic because your comment could be very easily interpreted as casual racism, and thought you might appreciate someone letting you know.
That’s the problem. People interpret anything and everything how they want, and they think they’re right. Honestly, I don’t care how someone interpreted what I wrote. It was a casual comment, and there was nothing racist about it.
Its political correctness run amok. A pretty dress can’t just be a pretty dress. The girl is what, 18? Someone made and sold the dress to her. She liked it and wore it to prom. Blame them for corrupting the minds of the youth.
Where does it stop? Do we need legislation so people don’t have to feel offended? Does some innocent prom-goer have to become the talk of the innerwebz because of a dress? Is it casual racism when a gentile uses a Yiddish word or goes to a kosher deli? What about white boys listening to rap?
There are 1.37 billion Chinese, and about 700,000,000 Caucasians, which makes the Chinese th dominant culture. Now look at that s picture and tell me if it’s cultural appropriation and casual racism of the dominant culture towards the minority. It’s exacty the same content as the prom dress.
BTW: I got a better look at that group photo: The guys were doing some "Gang-sign-looking thing" - probably school initials.
IMHO, the dress is not the problem, but the girls' stereotypical Asian bow-with-hands-together pose is sure to trigger more than a few people. Not saying that was their intent, but that is a good example of implicit bias and potential micro aggression.
They could definitely benefit from a non-threatening, but clear explanation from an offended party...
>stereotypical Asian bow-with-hands-together pose is sure to trigger more than a few people.
when I was traveling in SE Asia last summer, the bow with hands together was just common courtesy and expected - even for visitors. it's considered rude NOT to return the bow.
if a group of Asians wore western attire and were photographed giving one another high 5's, would you be triggered?
That "Braveheart" meme reminds me of another story of cultural clumsiness.
In 1996, a sculpture of William Wallace (the Scottish nationalist hero depicted by Mel Gibson in the movie) was erected near Sterling Castle, which played an important role in the Scottish wars of independence. The sculpture was the spitting image of Mel Gibson, who is Australian, not Scottish. The statute then became "among the most loathed pieces of public art in Scotland" and was regularly vandalized. It was eventually relocated to a private collection.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 06:37 pm
You want to wear that dress
You want to wear that dress to Prom..you go, boy.
skip the heels?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 06:37 pm
IMHO, what one wears is not
IMHO, what one wears is not racist; however, how one acts may be a different story...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 06:39 pm
True, if poolboy wore that
Yeah, if poolboy wore that dress to his prom and talked like Ping Pong that would be racist.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 06:48 pm
Cultural appropriation?
Cultural appropriation? Sure, she is wearing a South Asian style outfit to a North American high school event. No worse than a white person enjoying some vada sambar, a Navajo kid in a Oakland Raiders hoodie, or a black dude getting a bowl of pho. If it wasn't for cultural appropriation, we would all still be living in caves and grunting.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 07:25 pm
That girls got the onion of a
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hello My Name Is Jackohearts
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 07:44 pm
I would take that racist to
I would take that racist to prom, despite her cultural failings.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 08:12 pm
I surfed with a real life
I surfed with a real life version of Long Duc Dong this weekend. He was amazing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roarshock Roarshock
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 08:31 pm
"Everyday, I say, FUCK what
"Everyday, I say, FUCK what people say!" -- The Hyppiecrits
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision 4winds
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 08:34 pm
>>Yeah, if poolboy wore that
>>Yeah, if poolboy wore that dress to his prom and talked like Ping Pong that would be racist.
^ Easily offended and a proponet of classism! Joke's on you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:05 pm
^ Easily offended and a
^ Easily offended and a proponet of classism! Joke's on you.
We're on the same Jr Admin team now, Sarah. It's that peachy!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:09 pm
The fact that anyone would
The fact that anyone would consider the wearing of that dress racist is fucking stupid. Is eating a kielbasa racist?
I scratch my head at the dipshits that label Halloween costumes as racist. It’s Halloween and it’s a costume.
By the way, Turts, A Haoli surfing is racist towards Hawaiians.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:15 pm
What are guys doing with
What are guys doing with their hands in that photo?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:26 pm
>>>We're on the same Jr
>>>We're on the same Jr Admin team now, Sarah. It's that peachy
And I thought the asshole who told me to go choke on a sausage out of the blue was a dude. Leaning in I guess.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:29 pm
Effective immediately, Cinco
Effective immediately, Cinco de mayo will be canceled for all non Mexicans. Turn in your tequila and Tecate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 09:32 pm
You must not be from Chicago,
You must not be from Chicago, Bucky. "Go choke on a sausage" is just her way of flirting with you. If I weren't such a "proponet" of classism I wouldn't know that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision 4winds
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:00 pm
nanzi is just acting stupid
nanzi is just acting stupid now. I know you can't help it...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:00 pm
Slacker's got no come back
Slacker's got no come back for the pool boy moniker. Almost feel sorry for the little guy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:03 pm
It's hard to choose side's
It's hard to choose side's when it comes to the 2 most powerful women on Viva. I am afraid to tangle with either of them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:06 pm
>nanzi is just acting stupid
>nanzi is just acting stupid now. I know you can't help it...
Right on. Now that's what I'm talking about!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:12 pm
>>>a Navajo kid in a Oakland
>>>a Navajo kid in a Oakland Raiders hoodie
Definitely cultural appropriation. Everybody knows the Oakland Raiders fan base is exclusively Mexican.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:14 pm
St Mark has ever been to a
St Mark has never been to a Raider game.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 10:02 am
>A Haoli surfing is racist
>A Haoli surfing is racist towards Hawaiians.<
lol.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 11:33 am
I literally don't even get
I literally don't even get this stuff.
When I was traveling with my family in Germany, my mom asked for a recipe when served a dessert at someones' house. She was rebuffed with a "No, this dish should only be made in Germany".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go? LiquidMonkey
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 11:53 am
>>> I scratch my head at the
>>> I scratch my head at the dipshits that label Halloween costumes as racist. It’s Halloween and it’s a costume.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 12:22 pm
Well yeah, the above is
Well yeah, the above is racist, unless it's scathing social commentary. A little girl dressed like Pocahontas isn't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sun so hot, clouds so low Trailhead
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 12:40 pm
I admire those whom absorb
I admire those whom absorb that which another culture has provided. It is a sign of advanced learning and furthers creative development. Anyone standing in the way of that advancement must be detained and questioned ...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 01:27 pm
>>>>I scratch my head at the
>>>>I scratch my head at the dipshits that label Halloween costumes as racist. It’s Halloween and it’s a costume
Really? You don’t understand why white people dressing in black-face for Halloween is messed up? And you think people who think that’s wrong are dipshits??
wow. I’d say you and the black face person were the dipshits in this equation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 01:52 pm
>> You don’t understand why
>> You don’t understand why white people dressing in black-face for Halloween is messed up?
BrianK's quoted comment came before the blackface picture. He was speaking generally about cultural appropriation in Halloween costumes, not about black face.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 01:56 pm
oh ok. thank you Brian’s
oh ok. thank you Brian’s spokesperson.
Is that the case, Brian?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 02:31 pm
Yeah, I was talking about
Yeah, I was talking about kids dressing as Native Americans and shit, not racist fratboys using Halloween as an excuse to play out their shit in public. There is a huge difference.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 02:31 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 02:39 pm
Back to topic...does intent
Back to topic...does intent matter?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go? LiquidMonkey
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 03:42 pm
i only posted that pic
i only posted that pic because your comment could be very easily interpreted as casual racism, and thought you might appreciate someone letting you know.
i know i would.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 04:19 pm
>>>St Mark has never been to
>>>St Mark has never been to a Raider game.
I've been to a few. Road games for the Silver & Black, obviously.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 04:55 pm
That’s the problem. People
That’s the problem. People interpret anything and everything how they want, and they think they’re right. Honestly, I don’t care how someone interpreted what I wrote. It was a casual comment, and there was nothing racist about it.
Its political correctness run amok. A pretty dress can’t just be a pretty dress. The girl is what, 18? Someone made and sold the dress to her. She liked it and wore it to prom. Blame them for corrupting the minds of the youth.
Where does it stop? Do we need legislation so people don’t have to feel offended? Does some innocent prom-goer have to become the talk of the innerwebz because of a dress? Is it casual racism when a gentile uses a Yiddish word or goes to a kosher deli? What about white boys listening to rap?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:00 pm
There are 1.37 billion
There are 1.37 billion Chinese, and about 700,000,000 Caucasians, which makes the Chinese th dominant culture. Now look at that s picture and tell me if it’s cultural appropriation and casual racism of the dominant culture towards the minority. It’s exacty the same content as the prom dress.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:00 pm
Cultural sensitivity, where
Cultural sensitivity, where does it stop I ask you, the horror, the horror
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:03 pm
>Do we need legislation so
>Do we need legislation so people don’t have to feel offended? <
no, they get a viva username...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:04 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:06 pm
I didn't realize that this
I didn't realize that this was a national news story:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/world/asia/chinese-prom-dress.html?ac...
Interesting read, which includes a history of the controversial dress.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:18 pm
Nice meme.
Nice meme.
Is there a Cultural Sensitivity Police Academy?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:40 pm
BTW: I got a better look at
BTW: I got a better look at that group photo: The guys were doing some "Gang-sign-looking thing" - probably school initials.
IMHO, the dress is not the problem, but the girls' stereotypical Asian bow-with-hands-together pose is sure to trigger more than a few people. Not saying that was their intent, but that is a good example of implicit bias and potential micro aggression.
They could definitely benefit from a non-threatening, but clear explanation from an offended party...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:43 pm
Praying hands aren't
Praying hands aren't offensive.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:46 pm
>stereotypical Asian bow-with
Not praying hands, just a typical greeting.
>stereotypical Asian bow-with-hands-together pose is sure to trigger more than a few people.
when I was traveling in SE Asia last summer, the bow with hands together was just common courtesy and expected - even for visitors. it's considered rude NOT to return the bow.
if a group of Asians wore western attire and were photographed giving one another high 5's, would you be triggered?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:47 pm
>>>Do we need legislation so
>>>Do we need legislation so people don’t have to feel offended?
>>>no, they get a viva username..
Lol
Snap.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 05:59 pm
That "Braveheart" meme
That "Braveheart" meme reminds me of another story of cultural clumsiness.
In 1996, a sculpture of William Wallace (the Scottish nationalist hero depicted by Mel Gibson in the movie) was erected near Sterling Castle, which played an important role in the Scottish wars of independence. The sculpture was the spitting image of Mel Gibson, who is Australian, not Scottish. The statute then became "among the most loathed pieces of public art in Scotland" and was regularly vandalized. It was eventually relocated to a private collection.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 06:09 pm
Is eating a kielbasa racist?<
Is eating a kielbasa racist?<<<<<
The unkosher dog?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, May 2, 2018 – 06:57 pm
>>>>if a group of Asians wore
>>>>if a group of Asians wore western attire and were photographed giving one another high 5's, would you be triggered?
No.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Thursday, May 3, 2018 – 06:00 am
Cultural appropriation is
Cultural appropriationishuman. Here's a fun game:tryto write in onlyoriginalEnglish words.And, by the way, I think that she looks lovely.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Thursday, May 3, 2018 – 04:55 pm
I still don't get it. How is
I still don't get it. How is wearing that dress racist?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, May 3, 2018 – 04:59 pm
Some people in this thread
Some people in this thread are going to hate the costumes for the Psycho Genius set at Cinco De Mylar
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, May 3, 2018 – 07:08 pm
>>I still don't get it. How
>>I still don't get it. How is wearing that dress racist?
Casual racism, Mark, and because you don’t get it you too are racist.
That’s okay though, because a bunch of us are also casual racists, or so I hear.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, May 7, 2018 – 09:06 am
Was it racist to to dress like this on Cinco De Mayo?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, May 7, 2018 – 09:15 am
I'm gonna go with no.
I'm gonna go with no.
The young lady clearly understands how to dress for the occasion.
But, the guys holding instruments are pretty much strugglin'.