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Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC

When I was asked to run the Democratic Party after the Russians hacked our emails, I stumbled onto a shocking truth about the Clinton campaign

 

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks...

 

Donna Brazile details the sketchy dealings between the DNC and Hillary's campaign, illustrating that Obama and Wasserman Shultz especially, ran the DNC finances into the ground and were up against a wall to make a deal with the Clintons for money, so they released the Victory Fund money to her months before she got the nomination and it normally goes to the nominee.

 

The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.

I had been wondering why it was that I couldn’t write a press release without passing it by Brooklyn. Well, here was the answer.

 

They intended for Clinton to be the nominee the whole time.

 

Wasserman Shultz comes off horribly in the article and we should all be looking at her for getting us into this current situation.

 

.....and that doesn't even begin to address her role in the developing Awan Brother's scandal.  

>> Wasserman Shultz comes off horribly in the article and we should all be looking at her for getting us into this current situation.

 

You really think "we should all be looking at her for getting us into this current situation"?

Given all the facts SO FAR. Russia etc...

We should be looking at her??

lol.

 

lol. Absolutely.

 

We were hamstrung with Clinton from the beginning and now it's out in the open.  The Primary was never meant to be fair.

 

Bernie is more popular with Clinton voters than Clinton is and he is extremely popular with Blacks and Latinos contrary to the story that he is unelectable with them.  

 

The DNC gave us a 90s candidate in a year when the wind was clearly blowing another way. Democratic voters wouldnt have been swayed by Russian Disinfo if we had a real candidate produced by a vigorous level field primary.  

Bernie was screwed harder than we thought. I think both parties need to go! I was told long ago there's no difference between these 2 parties except for the corps. they work for...

I'm not defending could've, would've, should've...

Tad Devine, You know who he is?

actually, they work for the same corporations...

That is a losing scandal, we in america only care about winning scandals

and you wanted to be my latex salesman?

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Lol.. Really?? 

The coronation that you spoke of was that the system was so rigged on both sides that Hillary was guaranteed the presidency. You might as well defend the chicken bong or the mystery late show that never happened but happened. 

You don't understand that in a political party a candidate is already hand picked before the primary?  It sure as hell was never going to be an independent party jumper. 

With the current climate out there you actually revert back to bs Hillary bashing?  

jonas, did you see I reported the real value of Bitcoin like you asked a while back in the bitcoin thread?

 

and this isn't about Hillary bashing.

 

this scandal affects the majority of the voters, as it turns out and we need to have our eyes wide open moving forward. just because its ugly "out there" doesnt mean we shouldnt get out own house in order.

 

but yes, Russia too.

 

some folks have a hard time walking and chewing gum at the same time.....i get it.

>>> some folks have a hard time walking and chewing gum at the same time.....i get it. <<<

 

It's so generous of you to lower yourself to such low-level thinking. We are so lucky!

wait, what the line that goes here now.....?

 

This isnt about me, Ned.

 

IT WAS JUST HALF A XANNY BAR!!!

>> You don't understand that in a political party a candidate is already hand picked before the primary? 

Ask Jeb Bush about that

Guy-it-All really shines at conspiracy threads. 

I’ve reread his posts about replacing the second shooters windows at MGM every week for a month now, just so his thinking stays fresh. 

Donna Brazile writing a story for Politico is about as unconspiracy as it gets. 

 

Glad to see I'm still occupying your head though, 'Stain.

You can’t even occupy your hometown to keep out Nazis. 

Don’t flatter yourself because I made a joke out of your jackassery. No effort on my end. 

Lol. Keep swinging.  You are all over the place and your posts continue to say more about you than me.

gtrain doesn't meet zoners

which zoners bought hrc's new book? does it make you feel better? 

nancy got one with a jc penny pants suit...

My god, Bernie was never a true Democrat. Of course the Party was never going to back him. He never had a chance of getting Super Delegate votes, and he knew it. Anyone with foresight knew it. 

Maybe the Reps were more savvy in this election, embracing their outsider because he was a winner. They are always more savvy, and that’s why they win.

MY GOD!!!!

right, BK, shame on the unsophisticated voters who fell for the whole Primary thing when it was preordained from the start.

 

unreal.

 

<<<Of course the Party was never going to back him

 

Apparently, it was pretty shocking to the interim head of the DNC.  Good for you for knowing better.  I take it you didn't participate in the Primaries in all of your infinite wisdom, then?

Who are the superdelegates and how much do their votes cost? 

whats a true democrat? 

bk, you think the party didn't back bernie b/c he wasn't a true democrat?

clinton literally gave us trump. 

elevate pied piper candidates

 

the DNC created this monster.

Berniecrats Issue Report Criticizing the Democratic National Committee for Failing to Learn Lessons from 2016

The result is a deeply divided party heading into 2018.

By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet

November 1, 2017, 12:43 PM GMT

https://www.alternet.org/activism/berniecrats-issue-report-criticizing-d...

Bernie was more of a democrat than the party bosses that decided on this terrible strategy.

^yes. always has been. always will be. 

>>bk, you think the party didn't back bernie b/c he wasn't a true democrat?

Absolutely. In March of 2016 I was chatting it up with my local representative to the Vermont house, a Progressive. He told me that Bernie had no chance because the Super Delegates would never give their votes to him. They are the Party bigwigs, and he wasn’t in the Party. He said, “It doesn’t matter what the popular vote is, he’ll never get the votes of super delegates, like Obama and Bill Clinton.”

I still think he should have ran as an Independent.

 

<<< he’ll never get the votes of super delegates, like Obama and Bill Clinton

 

 

Was the guys name Representative Obvious?

Hillary's husband wasnt going to vote for Bernie? Shocking.

Does this guy have any more insights?

 

 

Did you participate in the primary, BK?

So, Guy, what’s your issue? If it was obvious months before the election that he could never win the primary because of the Super Delegate system, how can you really blame Hillary and some Party conspiracy? He made a choice to run in a primary that it was obvious he couldn’t win. 

 

 

My issue is my party picked the nominee before I got to vote.

 

I guess you knew better and abstained from the Primaries, knowing it was just window dressing? Good call!

 

Is the super delegate system an obviously corrupt system that the DNC doesn't plan on changing?

What if’s are lame, but here’s one. What if a real contender, who was a Democrat, also ran against Hillary and beat her in the popular vote? Could he/she have taken those Super Delegates? I think so. 

Guy, I’m not sure where you’re headed with the primary question. It’s too loaded. Plus, I’m in VT. There was a state law that Bernie could be the only name on the ballot. That’s how we roll.

I have my answer.

Why can’t you just have a civil conversation for once? 

I was very open about my feelings, my vote and my reasoning.

 

This isn't civil?

I asked a very simple question a few times that you've avoided unless I missed it.

You don't owe me an answer, but I was just trying to understand your condescending view of Primary Voters who thought, at one time, they had a say in this thing.

Sorry to jump into the conversation but.......

Where did all the DNC money go?

Bawahahahahahahahahahaha.....

 

That is all.

 

 

 

I’m sorry you thought I was being condescending. I said nothing about voters. I really had little idea about Super Delegates, a dude told me about them and it made sense.  My vote, though, had zero to do with that issue.

No, Guy, I did not vote for Bernie in the primary. I have cast a vote for him in every election since 1988 and will again, but not in that one. Personally, I think that he is actually doing more for the dialogue as a Senator than he would as POTUS, where he’d have to become a whore. He’s pulling the Dems to the left, slowly and on a sound foundation. That’s his strength. The Reps don’t really go after him so he can move forward. As pres, he would have been as polarizing as the douche who’s in there now.

Fair enough.

 

Thanks for that answer.

I see where you are coming from and share your view of his effectiveness as a Senator. 

How many co-sponsors did he pull in on his recent health care bill? 13, right? The Reps haven’t really said a word, and all their bills fail miserably.

Fifteen years ago the mass legalization of herb was a foreign concept. In another 10 years it will be legal almost everywhere. In 25 years we will probably have universal health, and Bernie will forever be the pioneer.

Someone else thinks this also... Lol.

Trumps tweet:

11/2/17 8:39pm

Donna Brazile just stated the DNC RIGGED the system to illegally steal the Primary from Bernie Sanders. Bought and paid for by Crooked H....

 

right. fake news, huh tod?

 

l o l.

Never thought it was fake news...

Trumps just a "Dirty Projector"

Interesting that Obama was an "outsider" candidate who eventually secured the nomination against the party favorite (Hillary) in '08.  Oh but he was Electable;  Bernie is NOT.

<<>Obama was an "outsider" candidate who eventually secured the nomination 

 

 

Its always about "Change" and the DNC failed to recognize this from the start.

Hillary was beat by a junior senator from Illinois in '08.

 

What on God's green earth lead the powers that be to believe she was the one to back or electable at all this time?

certainly reinforces the notion that voting third party was a legitimate choice

(not as if this needs to be officially "defended" anyhow)

I gave up on the Democrats in 1992. Still mostly vote their candidates, but the party’s been a joke for at least 25 years. 

Guess Brazile’s self-serving reveal is big news to a Guy who just discovered sleeping in vans last year.

Machine politics still sucks.  

Nobody cares who you vote for, G'stain.

 <<<Guy who just discovered sleeping in vans last year.

 

Lol!

You can't even get the easy stuff right.

It's no wonder Colorado Green Chili is a tough one for you.

Why don't you tell us more about this great new discovery, Ty Segall?

As I was trying to chew gum & walk at the same time I fell into Don The Con's latest ploy.  Leaning on the Bernie Bro's. 

I get it.  Tools are gonna tool. 

lol, Bless your heart, Jonas.  

 

I'd ask someone for a translation of that last post if I actually cared what you thought. I can see what you are trying to communicate. The anger is there. It's just muddy and a bit of a stretch, riffing on my own post.

>Bless your heart

Ok grandma.  Lol. 

 

 

thats the nicest thing youve ever called me!

 

Hope you have a great weekend.  

Dealing with a flooded basement. I get to play with a Kubota; digging trenches & drains. 

You too! 

Sorry for your troubles, my friend.

 

Pluto must be in gatorade or something right now, because shit is going sideways here too in other ways.   

No doubt!!  Lately it doesn't seem to slow down. 

Be good. 

Even Liz Warren Is Turning on Hillary, Points Out Corruption...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSVzO7lw8Xc

Calling for Real Reform, Ellison Says DNC 'Rigging' of Primary 'Cannot Be Dismissed'

"The DNC must be an impartial and transparent organization that welcomes all people who share our core values of economic justice and human rights for all."

by Jake Johnson, staff writer

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/11/03/calling-real-reform-ellison...

A Coronation is legitimate.  This was anything but.

"Democratic voters wouldnt have been swayed by Russian Disinfo if we had a real candidate produced by a vigorous level field primary. "

So you actually believe that people on your side of the aisle are so stupid that "Russian Disinfo" made them change their minds?

Please point to the "Russian Disinfo" that these stupid people fell for.  The $15,000 in Facebook ads that nobody saw?  Is that all it takes?

I'd say this is unbelievable, but I've given up on underestimating the stupidity of the contemporary left.  Your inability to deal with anything even approaching reality is simply breathtaking.

I think people are stupid, both sides.

 

You are a stunning illustration of that daily, Thom.

 

 

....and Coronations come from a perceived Divine Right established by those in power, legitimacy  has nothing to do with it.

It actually looks more like a hostile takeover than a Coronation from reading their secret agreement.

 

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/926681785819389952

 

 

HRC is a sociopath. 

And now top Dems are outright lying about the agreement, saying it was only "for the General election."

 

https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/926569099622338561

 

that's patently false.

 

https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/926689591939256320

 

 

>>The $15,000 in Facebook ads that nobody saw? <<

 

Nobody saw the Russian created content? Last I heard, 126 million people saw russian created content.

 

Thom, are you misinformed or just lying to suit your narrative?

 

Russian Influence Reached 126 Million Through Facebook Alone

 

WASHINGTON — Russian agents intending to sow discord among American citizens disseminated inflammatory posts that reached 126 million users on Facebook, published more than 131,000 messages on Twitter and uploaded over 1,000 videos to Google’s YouTube service, according to copies of prepared remarks from the companies that were obtained by The New York Times...

 

In its prepared remarks sent to Congress, Facebook said the Internet Research Agency, a shadowy Russian company linked to the Kremlin, had posted roughly 80,000 pieces of divisive content that was shown to about 29 million people between January 2015 and August 2017. Those posts were then liked, shared and followed by others, spreading the messages to tens of millions more people. Facebook also said it had found and deleted more than 170 accounts on its photo-sharing app Instagram; those accounts had posted about 120,000 pieces of Russia-linked content.

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/technology/facebook-google-russia....

 

 

And...

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it's almost like the dems want to keep the trash that's in the Whitehouse/senate/house. sorry state of affairs for the democrats. and lying even more will just make this worse. 

they need to give complete control of the party to bernie's people. that is the only way they will win this shit show in 2020. it will never happen. 

Pyramid, the problem is, Sanders is still not a democrat

that's the problem? out of everything we know, that's the fucking problem? 

yeah, we're fucked. 

Not the only problem, pyramid, but if Sanders is to be the driving force behind the Democratic party, he should be a member of the party.

maybe, lumber. i'd say these times call for some different thinking. trump is in office and HRC delivered that. 

fuck the label and let bernie dominate. 

Stop with the 'HRC delivered that' bs. Trump voters and third party voters delivered us Trump. That is the ONLY indisputable fact. Sorry to burst your bubble but Bernie isn't dominating anything.

>> Trump voters and third party voters delivered us Trump.

That is such bullshit.

Russian involvement (many different ways) delivered it...

Simple:

No Russia = No Trump

 

Russians didn't vote. Stupid Americans voted. The conspiracy theorists and the dummies bought into all the Hillary propaganda hook line and sinker. Show me were a Russian cast a vote in this election or fixed a voting machine?

>>>>>all the Hillary propaganda

Put out by Russia.

Did the Russians cast votes or hack voting machines? That is the ONLY way that they directly influenced the election. I'm all for this administration going down in flames for collusion but at the end of the day this is about stupid Americans(the ones that directly cast votes for Trump and the ones that even though they will tell you how smart and educated they are drank the propaganda kool aid).

>> Russians didn't vote. Stupid Americans voted. The conspiracy theorists and the dummies bought into all the Hillary propaganda hook line and sinker. Show me were a Russian cast a vote in this election or fixed a voting machine?

 

**So motherfuckin' legit, members of Congress are communicating with him**

https://www.unhackthevote.com/author/mikefarb/

Twitter handle: @mikefarb1

 

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know"

 

 

I already follow Mike. I'm well aware of voter suppression. Show me were the Russians intervened in voter suppression? Also a good example isn't: all 7 of my family members lost their id's and licenses and we weren't allowed to vote. Using GD lyrics to try and prove a point doesn't really work.

>> Using GD lyrics to try and prove a point doesn't really work.

You sure about that? Lol

i guess it's difficult for some to accept the sociopathic ways of HRC, and the damage she has caused this country. 

Let ALL info on ALL parties HRC, Bernie, and Trump come out...

That being said.

How do you feel about the Russians interfering in our Democracy?

HRC's not running, Bernie shouldn't, and it will be interesting following the GOP primaries in 2020.

Will Rump even last that long? If he does, what will he have done by then to his base, and will they still support him?

I'm old, but I think we need some new, young blood at POTUS.

I am sure that you haven't proven a point. Using lyrics from a Bobby song about blowing out farts didn't help. 

 

The damage was done by voting in Trump or voting for a 3rd party. Reality.  Most of us know that politicians are self serving, some are just plain old delusion on how the world actually works.

Like I said -- I want this administration to go down for collusion.  Unfortunately the collusion highlights the intelligence of our country.  

>> like I said -- I want this administration to go down for collusion.

Collusion is NOT a legal term. 

It's called Conspiracy.

 

>> Unfortunately the collusion highlights the intelligence of our country.

derp

 

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"

#fartsandall

 

 

When you can't prove a point digress to civic lessons. 

On right now... I'm sure you can catch it somehow if you're missing it now.

@tribelaw

I’ll be on CNN discussing collusion vs conspiracy (with Jeff Toobin) in the context of Mueller’s Russia investigation around 7:50 this morning.

^^^ Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

Its unreal watching CNN call legendary NSA data analyst, Bill Binney, a conspiracy theorist.

 

From the WAPO link above:

Binney is a former official at the National Security Agency (NSA) who later became a whistleblower and now belongs to Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, a group of former intelligence officials who are skeptical of the intelligence community's conclusions. He has occasionally been a guest on Fox News, where it seems Trump may have seen him, and where host Sean Hannity once seized upon the inside-job theory and tied it — dubiously — to the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. The appeal of Binney's theory to Trump is clear: It suggests Russia's interference wasn't nearly so broad or influential as the intelligence community contends.

Hes been a guest on CNN quite a few times too.

They never painted him with this brush until he started questioning the legacy press.