Immigration says no; I must leave. I am devastated. I'm shaking. I think I can appeal... I don't know. I can't think right now, much lesss read Dutch. I don't know legal terms anyway.
That's F'd up... my brilliant neighbor, a professor at Oregon State, didn't get his contract renewed immediately, they (Trumps gov) gave him 2 weeks to leave the country, repugnant!
Wishing you the best, hope there is an appeal you can file / win!
This sounds like a big setback, Floops, but it doesn't have to mean the end of the story, I hope. Let the shaking subside a bit, and then get busy. Find out about an appeal. Also, their decision was based on something; find out what that was and see if it can somehow be remedied or rectified. Hug your kids and don't let go, and know that we're still here for you as remote and strange and abstracted as that might seem.
Your resiliency and perseverance in your quest to be a physical presence in your children's lives is remarkable and commendable. From a distance it has read like and had the arc of some great film by the likes of Ingmar Bergman or Werner Herzog.
Good tidings to you and your kids as this saga continues. Don't forget to star in your own movie!
May the Prankster spirit find you and sustain you.
Can you apply for dual citizenship? A friend qualified for German citizenship from grandfather, his Jewish heritage factored in.
The harsh reality is once they are back in the mother's country she has the upper hand. Or he as the case may be.
A 30 year old priest here groomed an 18 year old he taught at local catholic HS. They fled to Italy and the bastard married her there. The girl's parents went there to try to get her home and the Italian authorities threatened to arrest them if they even contact her, their own daughter.
Life is all about adapting to changes, Floops. You've been thrown a curveball (or perhaps a spitball) by the Dutch authorities, but your situation is not hopeless, nor insurmountable. Remember the sage words of Hunter S. Thompson, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
My 2 cents:
If I was in your shoes, I'd take Tommy up on his offer. The Rhône district will be beautiful this time of year, and their charmingly bucolic setting in the hills above Lyon would be good to reset your mind and course of action. The fresh air and calming qualities of the countryside are a therapeutic balm to the disruptions of urban life.
Perhaps you can look for work in France? The Summer Olympics will be in Paris next year. This will surely create many job opportunities in the lead up to the games. You may not be able to see your children daily, but they will be close enough that regular visits should be possible. You would be a little like the Rolling Stones during their Exile On Main St. days, when they took refuge from the British government's draconian tax laws by living on the French Riviera.
Perhaps leaving the Netherlands temporarily will allow you to renew your green card privileges with them? I have a Swedish cousin who's daughter has lived and worked in Australia for the last several years, who periodically has had to fly back to Sweden to renew her visa privileges. If you haven't already done so, contact the U,S. embassy or attaché and see what options and assistance they can offer.
Take proper care of yourself. Get your sleep, eat healthily. You will need to remain fit to rise to these challenges. You're not in this alone. We, the citizens of the Zone, are in your corner. Your spiritual ancestors, the Garcias, Hunters, Dylans, and whichever writers, thinkers, and artists you feel a kinship with, are there to draw on for inspiration and spiritual sustenance too.
Remember, the destination on the bus points to Further.
It's feeling worse and worse. Floops, please, oh please, take care of your health while all of this drags on. I'm thinking of your heart, breaking in more ways than one.
Also, before you leave the country make sure you'll be able to return at will. A time away could be lovely, but not if you won't be able to come back.
Hello, Good Zoners. I hope you're well. I am still in a tizzy, but I'm trying to keep up my sense of humor. I received two letters from the Raad voor Rechtsbijstand and shit my pants. I was sure this was it. My hands were shaking so badly as I neatly sliced open the envelope with my cheap scissors. I pulled out the first letter... and it was approval for financial aid. Oh my god. I couldn't be sure what the second one was, though, so I was still nervous as I opened it, and... ... ... ... omg it's just another one for some reason. Same letter, I fell backwards to catch my breathe... or, actually, to breathe again. It's torture. I can't stand the tension anymore. And yet, I must. I must make it through. But I've been saying this for ten years now. But I still must make it through. But I've had two heart attacks by doing this. And yet! I must make it through. You know I'm not religious, but please pray for me.
And if I make it through, then I can start my life. I can found my business with the local Chamber of Commerce. I can get a house to live in! I can have a base the children can get used to as they grow older. I can breathe freely again. Security is so important. It's been so long.
I do distract myself with writing. It's still flowing. I can only get the bureaucracy sent out and wait for a response. It IS like Kafka's The Trial. And as I watch the process turn like molasses, I am at peace while I am teaching, writing, or hanging with my kids. And Iggy's coming over shortly to watch the first episode of the new season of Rick and Morty, so I'm going to get ready for him.
AND no Bills spoilers, please. I haven't watched since the Miami game. And I mean to! Thanks.
Yall are the best. Thanks for listening. It helps. Cheers (peace sign emoji sunflower emoji)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hello My Name Is Jackohearts
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:03 pm
That's terrible man, I'm
That's terrible man, I'm sorry.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:04 pm
What a bummer . Sorry to hear
What a bummer . Sorry to hear
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andy Tahoe
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:08 pm
So sorry. Keep fighting.
So sorry. Keep fighting. America needs new citizens like you .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: billionyearoldcarbon thegunkman
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:11 pm
So sorry to hear this news
So sorry to hear this news from Floops. Keep it together right now and hopefully once your mind settles some options will arise,
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:17 pm
So sorry to hear, Floops.
So sorry to hear, Floops.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:27 pm
Thank you, good people. It
Thank you, good people. It helps.
Im going biking now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:28 pm
That's F'd up... my
That's F'd up... my brilliant neighbor, a professor at Oregon State, didn't get his contract renewed immediately, they (Trumps gov) gave him 2 weeks to leave the country, repugnant!
Wishing you the best, hope there is an appeal you can file / win!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:29 pm
Shit. Now my family is being
Shit. Now my family is being shitty to me. I might need a place to live for a bit, if anyone has extra room and knows of a job. I have skills.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:33 pm
Dammit. Fucking fuckers.
Dammit. Fucking fuckers.
This sounds like a big setback, Floops, but it doesn't have to mean the end of the story, I hope. Let the shaking subside a bit, and then get busy. Find out about an appeal. Also, their decision was based on something; find out what that was and see if it can somehow be remedied or rectified. Hug your kids and don't let go, and know that we're still here for you as remote and strange and abstracted as that might seem.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 12:50 pm
Shitty fucking decision, dear
Shitty fucking decision, dear Floops. Love to you.
And everything Mike said.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 01:55 pm
Sorry to reads this news,
Sorry to reads this news, brother.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 02:05 pm
@ Tahoe
@ Tahoe
He;s getting kicked out of Holland.
And keep fighting it. Don't stop until they put you on a plane. Good luck!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 04:15 pm
Sorry to hear, Floops. That
Sorry to hear, Floops. That really sucks! Hope you're able to figure things out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 04:35 pm
Sorry for the outcome, Floops
Sorry for the outcome, Floops. I hope you get to stay through an appeal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz Zang
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 05:47 pm
I'm so sorry Floops. Wishing
I'm so sorry Floops. Wishing you the best in your next steps.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 08:09 pm
That sucks Floops. Good luck
That sucks Floops. Good luck on your appeal. I assume you can at least stay until the appeals are resolved?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 08:31 pm
the country...or the EU?
the country...or the EU?
dude sorry, you've been dealing with a lot. hang in there buddy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roarshock Roarshock
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 03:08 am
Good luck Floops. We love you
Good luck Floops. We love you here on the Zone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 09:00 am
Ain't that a kick in the nuts
Well, ain't that a kick in the nuts?
Your resiliency and perseverance in your quest to be a physical presence in your children's lives is remarkable and commendable. From a distance it has read like and had the arc of some great film by the likes of Ingmar Bergman or Werner Herzog.
Good tidings to you and your kids as this saga continues. Don't forget to star in your own movie!
May the Prankster spirit find you and sustain you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWUZm5_MsQI&pp=ygUabmVpbCB5b3VuZyBkb24ndCB...
"Don't Be Denied" CSNY with Joni Mitchell at Wembley Stadium 1874
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: TommyGutt deadtothecore2
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 09:26 am
Lost my post fucin zone,
Lost my post fucin zone, Floops I'm not sooo far away if we can help... email moi
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 09:42 am
> "Don't Be Denied" CSNY
> "Don't Be Denied" CSNY with Joni Mitchell at Wembley Stadium
Just exactly perfect, Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 10:33 am
remember sometimes strange
remember sometimes strange new opportunities appear when you least expect it
personally, I'm going to boycott all things Dutch....what do they make again? weed, windmills, and ovens? We got those here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 02:38 pm
Sorry that sucks. The Dutch
Sorry that sucks. The Dutch are assholes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 06:25 pm
Can you go to another EU
Can you go to another EU country? The UK?
Can you apply for dual citizenship? A friend qualified for German citizenship from grandfather, his Jewish heritage factored in.
The harsh reality is once they are back in the mother's country she has the upper hand. Or he as the case may be.
A 30 year old priest here groomed an 18 year old he taught at local catholic HS. They fled to Italy and the bastard married her there. The girl's parents went there to try to get her home and the Italian authorities threatened to arrest them if they even contact her, their own daughter.
Google Father Crow.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Black Lives Matter jlp
on Friday, September 15, 2023 – 08:15 pm
was hoping this was anyone
was hoping this was anyone but you
fucken hell
but, what aiq said??
you are welcome here in the worst of events, but jobs there ain't
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: donster Nod
on Saturday, September 16, 2023 – 03:01 pm
Hoping that you find a way
Hoping that you find a way over, under, around or through that wall, Floops......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Saturday, September 16, 2023 – 03:05 pm
This beyond sucks
This beyond sucks
Hoping the path finds your way.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Saturday, September 23, 2023 – 05:41 pm
I am sorry that I haven't
I am sorry that I haven't been responding. I am super depressed and totally scared. No news yet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: TommyGutt deadtothecore2
on Saturday, September 23, 2023 – 08:12 pm
awe shit Floops hop on over
awe shit Floops hop on over to France for a while, clean your mind up a bit
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: billionyearoldcarbon thegunkman
on Saturday, September 23, 2023 – 08:28 pm
So sorry Floops. Please just
So sorry Floops. Please just hang on, it will get better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, September 24, 2023 – 01:04 pm
Life is all about adapting to
Life is all about adapting to changes, Floops. You've been thrown a curveball (or perhaps a spitball) by the Dutch authorities, but your situation is not hopeless, nor insurmountable. Remember the sage words of Hunter S. Thompson, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
My 2 cents:
If I was in your shoes, I'd take Tommy up on his offer. The Rhône district will be beautiful this time of year, and their charmingly bucolic setting in the hills above Lyon would be good to reset your mind and course of action. The fresh air and calming qualities of the countryside are a therapeutic balm to the disruptions of urban life.
Perhaps you can look for work in France? The Summer Olympics will be in Paris next year. This will surely create many job opportunities in the lead up to the games. You may not be able to see your children daily, but they will be close enough that regular visits should be possible. You would be a little like the Rolling Stones during their Exile On Main St. days, when they took refuge from the British government's draconian tax laws by living on the French Riviera.
Perhaps leaving the Netherlands temporarily will allow you to renew your green card privileges with them? I have a Swedish cousin who's daughter has lived and worked in Australia for the last several years, who periodically has had to fly back to Sweden to renew her visa privileges. If you haven't already done so, contact the U,S. embassy or attaché and see what options and assistance they can offer.
Take proper care of yourself. Get your sleep, eat healthily. You will need to remain fit to rise to these challenges. You're not in this alone. We, the citizens of the Zone, are in your corner. Your spiritual ancestors, the Garcias, Hunters, Dylans, and whichever writers, thinkers, and artists you feel a kinship with, are there to draw on for inspiration and spiritual sustenance too.
Remember, the destination on the bus points to Further.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, September 24, 2023 – 02:47 pm
Floops, do you have any legal
Floops, do you have any legal representation, or are you trying to do this all yourself?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 – 05:01 am
OMG my lawyer is shitting the
OMG my lawyer is shitting the bed. I am so fucked. I really think there's no winning. I am shattered.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 – 02:21 pm
It's feeling worse and worse.
It's feeling worse and worse. Floops, please, oh please, take care of your health while all of this drags on. I'm thinking of your heart, breaking in more ways than one.
Also, before you leave the country make sure you'll be able to return at will. A time away could be lovely, but not if you won't be able to come back.
Sending you love.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, September 26, 2023 – 06:10 pm
Hey Floops,
Hey Floops,
How old are the kids now? You'll still be able to visit them, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Monday, October 2, 2023 – 09:39 am
Okay! The lawyer says she can
Okay! The lawyer says she can get me at least six months on appeals, and because of treaties the US has with NL, i won't have to go home and wait.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck the immediate pressure has lifted and I'm going to sleep for a day. I still have a lot to do, but for right now? I'm out.
I love you Zoners.
Thank you, Judit. I have the same concerns.
Brian, youngest is almost 18, other than that, I know nothing for sure.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Monday, October 2, 2023 – 09:42 am
Oh! and GO, BILLS!!!!!
Oh! and GO, BILLS!!!!! squishified those fuggin fish. lol. So Awesome :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, October 2, 2023 – 09:55 am
That's good news. Good luck
That's good news. Good luck on the appeal!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz Zang
on Monday, October 2, 2023 – 12:08 pm
Congrats Floops. Might just
Congrats Floops. Might just buy you some time to figure it all out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Wednesday, October 18, 2023 – 10:12 am
Hello, Good Zoners. I hope
Hello, Good Zoners. I hope you're well. I am still in a tizzy, but I'm trying to keep up my sense of humor. I received two letters from the Raad voor Rechtsbijstand and shit my pants. I was sure this was it. My hands were shaking so badly as I neatly sliced open the envelope with my cheap scissors. I pulled out the first letter... and it was approval for financial aid. Oh my god. I couldn't be sure what the second one was, though, so I was still nervous as I opened it, and... ... ... ... omg it's just another one for some reason. Same letter, I fell backwards to catch my breathe... or, actually, to breathe again. It's torture. I can't stand the tension anymore. And yet, I must. I must make it through. But I've been saying this for ten years now. But I still must make it through. But I've had two heart attacks by doing this. And yet! I must make it through. You know I'm not religious, but please pray for me.
And if I make it through, then I can start my life. I can found my business with the local Chamber of Commerce. I can get a house to live in! I can have a base the children can get used to as they grow older. I can breathe freely again. Security is so important. It's been so long.
I do distract myself with writing. It's still flowing. I can only get the bureaucracy sent out and wait for a response. It IS like Kafka's The Trial. And as I watch the process turn like molasses, I am at peace while I am teaching, writing, or hanging with my kids. And Iggy's coming over shortly to watch the first episode of the new season of Rick and Morty, so I'm going to get ready for him.
AND no Bills spoilers, please. I haven't watched since the Miami game. And I mean to! Thanks.
Yall are the best. Thanks for listening. It helps. Cheers (peace sign emoji sunflower emoji)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Wednesday, October 18, 2023 – 01:08 pm
Good on you , Floops.
Good on you , Floops.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: billionyearoldcarbon thegunkman
on Wednesday, October 18, 2023 – 01:25 pm
Love to Floops from my little
Love to Floops from my little home.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, October 18, 2023 – 02:01 pm
That's great news, Floops.
That's great news, Floops. Did they give you enough dough so you can buy yourself a new pair of pants too?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Wednesday, October 18, 2023 – 02:50 pm
No news is good news, but
No news is good news, but good news is always welcomed. Nice to read ,Floops, one more step forward :)