i've been denied

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Immigration says no; I must leave. I am devastated. I'm shaking. I think I can appeal... I don't know. I can't think right now, much lesss read Dutch. I don't know legal terms anyway. 

I'm crushed right now. 

That's terrible man, I'm sorry.

What a bummer . Sorry to hear

So sorry.  Keep fighting.  America needs new citizens like you .

So sorry to hear this news from Floops. Keep it together right now and hopefully once your mind settles some options will arise,

So sorry to hear, Floops. 

Thank you, good people. It helps. 

Im going biking now. 

That's F'd up...    my brilliant neighbor, a professor at Oregon State, didn't get his contract renewed immediately, they (Trumps gov) gave him 2 weeks to leave the country, repugnant!

Wishing you the best, hope there is an appeal you can file / win!  

Shit. Now my family is being shitty to me. I might need a place to live for a bit, if anyone has extra room and knows of a job. I have skills. 

Dammit. Fucking fuckers.

This sounds like a big setback, Floops, but it doesn't have to mean the end of the story, I hope. Let the shaking subside a bit, and then get busy. Find out about an appeal. Also, their decision was based on something; find out what that was and see if it can somehow be remedied or rectified. Hug your kids and don't let go, and know that we're still here for you as remote and strange and abstracted as that might seem.

Shitty fucking decision, dear Floops. Love to you.

And everything Mike said.

Sorry to reads this news, brother.

@ Tahoe

He;s getting kicked out of Holland.

And keep fighting it. Don't stop until they put you on a plane. Good luck!!

Sorry to hear, Floops.  That really sucks!  Hope you're able to figure things out.

Sorry for the outcome, Floops.  I hope you get to stay through an appeal.  

I'm so sorry Floops.  Wishing you the best in your next steps. 

That sucks Floops.  Good luck on your appeal.  I assume you can at least stay until the appeals are resolved?

the country...or the EU?

dude sorry, you've been dealing with a lot. hang in there buddy.

Good luck Floops. We love you here on the Zone.

Well, ain't that a kick in the nuts?

Your resiliency and perseverance in your quest to be a physical presence in your children's lives is remarkable and commendable.  From a distance it has read like and had the arc of some great film by the likes of Ingmar Bergman or Werner Herzog.  

Good tidings to you and your kids as this saga continues.  Don't forget to star in your own movie!

May the Prankster spirit find you and sustain you.  
 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWUZm5_MsQI&pp=ygUabmVpbCB5b3VuZyBkb24ndCB...

"Don't Be Denied"  CSNY with Joni Mitchell at Wembley Stadium 1874

Lost my post fucin zone, Floops I'm not sooo far away if we can help... email moi

> "Don't Be Denied"  CSNY with Joni Mitchell at Wembley Stadium

Just exactly perfect, Dave.

remember sometimes strange new opportunities appear when you least expect it

personally, I'm going to boycott all things Dutch....what do they make again? weed, windmills, and ovens? We got those here.

Sorry that sucks.  The Dutch are assholes. 

Can you go to another EU country?  The UK?

Can you apply for dual citizenship?  A friend qualified for German citizenship from grandfather, his Jewish heritage factored in.

The harsh reality is once they are back in the mother's country she has the upper hand.  Or he as the case may be.

A 30 year old priest here groomed an 18 year old he taught at local catholic HS.  They fled to Italy and the bastard married her there.   The girl's parents went there to try to get her home and the Italian authorities threatened to arrest them if they even contact her, their own daughter. 

Google Father Crow.

was hoping this was anyone but you

fucken hell

but, what aiq said??

you are welcome here in the worst of events, but jobs there ain't

Hoping that you find a way over, under, around or through that wall, Floops......

This beyond sucks

Hoping the path finds your way.

I am sorry that I haven't been responding. I am super depressed and totally scared. No news yet. 

awe shit Floops hop on over to France for a while, clean your mind up a bit

So sorry Floops. Please just hang on, it will get better.

Life is all about adapting to changes, Floops.   You've been thrown a curveball (or perhaps a spitball) by the Dutch authorities, but your situation is not hopeless, nor insurmountable.  Remember the sage words of Hunter S. Thompson, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

My 2 cents:

If I was in your shoes, I'd take Tommy up on his offer.  The Rhône district will be beautiful this time of year, and their charmingly bucolic setting in the hills above Lyon would be good to reset your mind and course of action.  The fresh air and calming qualities of the countryside are a therapeutic balm to the disruptions of urban life.

Perhaps you can look for work in France?  The Summer Olympics will be in Paris next year.  This will surely create many job opportunities in the lead up to the games.  You may not be able to see your children daily, but they will be close enough that regular visits should be possible.  You would be a little like the Rolling Stones during their Exile On Main St. days, when they took refuge from the British government's draconian tax laws by living on the French Riviera.  
 

Perhaps leaving the Netherlands temporarily will allow you to renew your green card privileges with them?  I have a Swedish cousin who's daughter has lived and worked in Australia for the last several years, who periodically has had to fly back to Sweden to renew her visa privileges.  If you haven't already done so, contact the U,S. embassy or attaché and see what options and assistance they can offer.

Take proper care of yourself.  Get your sleep, eat healthily. You will need to remain fit to rise to these challenges.   You're not in this alone.  We, the citizens of the Zone, are in your corner.  Your spiritual ancestors, the Garcias, Hunters, Dylans, and whichever writers, thinkers, and artists you feel a kinship with, are there to draw on for inspiration and spiritual sustenance too.

Remember, the destination on the bus points to Further.

 

Floops, do you have any legal representation, or are you trying to do this all yourself?

OMG my lawyer is shitting the bed. I am so fucked. I really think there's no winning. I am shattered. 

It's feeling worse and worse. Floops, please, oh please, take care of your health while all of this drags on. I'm thinking of your heart, breaking in more ways than one.

Also, before you leave the country make sure you'll be able to return at will. A time away could be lovely, but not if you won't be able to come back.

Sending you love.

Hey Floops,

How old are the kids now? You'll still be able to visit them, right?

Okay! The lawyer says she can get me at least six months on appeals, and because of treaties the US has with NL, i won't have to go home and wait. 

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck the immediate pressure has lifted and I'm going to sleep for a day. I still have a lot to do, but for right now? I'm out. 

I love you Zoners. 

Thank you, Judit. I have the same concerns. 

Brian, youngest is almost 18, other than that, I know nothing for sure. 

Oh! and GO, BILLS!!!!! squishified those fuggin fish. lol. So Awesome :)

That's good news.  Good luck on the appeal!

Congrats Floops.   Might just buy you some time to figure it all out. 

Hello, Good Zoners. I hope you're well. I am still in a tizzy, but I'm trying to keep up my sense of humor. I received two letters from the Raad voor Rechtsbijstand and shit my pants. I was sure this was it. My hands were shaking so badly as I neatly sliced open the envelope with my cheap scissors. I pulled out the first letter... and it was approval for financial aid. Oh my god. I couldn't be sure what the second one was, though, so I was still nervous as I opened it, and... ... ... ... omg it's just another one for some reason. Same letter, I fell backwards to catch my breathe... or, actually, to breathe again. It's torture. I can't stand the tension anymore. And yet, I must. I must make it through. But I've been saying this for ten years now. But I still must make it through. But I've had two heart attacks by doing this. And yet! I must make it through. You know I'm not religious, but please pray for me.

And if I make it through, then I can start my life. I can found my business with the local Chamber of Commerce. I can get a house to live in! I can have a base the children can get used to as they grow older. I can breathe freely again. Security is so important. It's been so long. 

I do distract myself with writing. It's still flowing. I can only get the bureaucracy sent out and wait for a response. It IS like Kafka's The Trial. And as I watch the process turn like molasses, I am at peace while I am teaching, writing, or hanging with my kids. And Iggy's coming over shortly to watch the first episode of the new season of Rick and Morty, so I'm going to get ready for him. 

AND no Bills spoilers, please. I haven't watched since the Miami game. And I mean to! Thanks.

Yall are the best. Thanks for listening. It helps. Cheers (peace sign emoji sunflower emoji)

Good on you , Floops.

Love to Floops from my little home.

That's great news, Floops. Did they give you enough dough so you can buy yourself a new pair of pants too?

No news is good news, but good news is always welcomed.  Nice to read ,Floops, one more step forward :)