"...This song is by Ed's Redeeming Qualities and appears on the album More Bad Times (1990).
It was the third of July and the weather was fine
Ed brought the hot dogs, the croquet set was mine
But the red ball was missing, three mallets were bent
Ed suggested lawn darts, so to K-Mart we went
We looked by the yard games, we looked by the grills
But we couldn't find lawn darts over water or hill
So we talked to the sales-clerk but she started to cry
She said they're off the shelves now, and she told us both why
A kid was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
Her dad didn't see her, that's the worst part
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
So they're now off the shelves at the K-Mart
We both felt so bad that we gave up the search
Ed went to bed and I went to church
Now we never grill hot dogs and we don't play yard games
Since we heard that sad story, things just aren't the same
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
Her dad didn't see her, that's the worst part
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
So they're now off the shelves at the K-Mart..."
"Diane Sawyer & 60 Minutes aired this in 1988. This Episode, called "Mr Snow goes to Washington" is about one man taking on the system and winning when tragedy struck his family when a product, lawn darts killed his daughter Michelle. Lawn darts were later to be found illegally packaged & illegally sold and were also subsequently banned. It was discovered that this "toy" killed, brain damaged or injured over 6000 kids in an 8 year period."
Over a period of eight years, lawn darts had sent 6,100 people to the emergency room. 81% of those cases involved children 15 or younger, and half of those were 10 or younger. The majority of injuries were to the head, face, eyes or ears, and many had led to permanent injury or disability.
When the commission collected 21 different lawn dart sets from 14 manufacturers, they also found that most of them weren’t complying with the warning requirements. A survey of 53 retailers likewise found that many weren’t following the regulation, and in a third of the stores, lawn darts were displayed in toy departments or with toys and sporting equipment intended for kids. The commission met with lawn dart makers and distributors and struck a new agreement on improved labeling and retail practices. The commission published a new safety warning for lawn darts and scheduled a vote on an outright ban for later in the year.
The week of the vote, Snow went back to Washington, D.C. to lobby the commission and get press for his cause. He gave interviews to consumer reporters from TV stations and newspapers. He met with President Reagan's assistant for consumer affairs. Finally, he had meetings with each of the three consumer product safety commissioners. By the time they voted, Snow felt confident he had at least two of the three commissioners on his side.
He was right. As an 11-year-old girl in Tennessee lay in a coma from a lawn dart injury earlier that week, the commission voted 2-1 in favor of a ban. Lawn darts were removed from stores the week before Christmas in 1988 and banned from further sale. The ban did not, however, include a recall of darts that had already been purchased, and the commission sent out a press release pleading for the public to destroy their darts or keep them out of the hands of kids.
Responsible jart owners should not be punished because others misuse the product.
The risk of injury is quite low, especially when compared to other products...
Now, a study based on data from 2012 to 2014 suggests that, on average, 5,790 children in the United States receive medical treatment in an emergency room each year for a gun-related injury. About 21% of those injuries are unintentional, similar to the third-grader's case.
From 2012 to 2014, on average, 1,297 children died annually from a gun-related injury in the US, according to the study, published in the journal Pediatrics on Monday.
Skateboarding is very safe, at least when it comes to the number of deaths...
The researchers examined data spanning two decades and found that more than 64,500 U.S. children and teens were treated in hospital emergency rooms each year -- about 176 a day -- for skateboarding-related injuries. Fractures and dislocations were among the most common injuries, the study indicated.
Five deaths were reported during the study period. All were due to motor vehicle collisions.
When talking fatalities, skiing is apparently more dangerous than snowboarding...
Research for the National Ski Areas Association in the US claims to have settled the question: snowboarding has less risk of ending in serious injury.
Jasper Shealy, a professor emeritus at the Rochester Institute of Technology who has studied such injuries for 40 years, concluded that while snowboarders were between 50% to 70% more likely to get injured, they are also around a third less likely to be killed on the slopes than skiers. Most of the skiing deaths were "due to collisions with fixed objects, where somebody is going at a relatively high speed", said Shealy...
Looks like guns and jarts are much more dangerous, and cause more fatalities, than skateboarding and snowboarding. But jarts have been judged too dangerous for sale and use in the US, so at least we are safe from that threat.
^you're right, Fly, bean bags are a non-lethal alternative to firearms...
The best alternative to lethal force
You understand that your self defense game plan requires true knock out power. You also understand that using deadly force could put yourself in legal jeopardy and injure loved ones. Here's why the ARMA 100 is your best alternative.
Only ARMA provides less than lethal force to knock out a violent attacker from up to 20 feet away while being safer than all other non lethal defense devices. This gives your family plenty of time to escape from a dangerous situation without having to resort to deadly force
A bean bag gun? I was once waiting for a bus outside my office in downtown Portland and there was a crazy guy just yelling and yelling. That's not unusual, but this guy was threatening and making people uncomfortable. A half dozen cops then came over from the courthouse across the street guns drawn. I ducked around the corner and watched as the cops warned him that they would shoot him with a bean bag if he didn't submit. He didn't and the cop shot him with a bean bag from a shotgun. Dude went down and was quickly cuffed and hauled off.
>> From 2012 to 2014, on average, 1,297 children died annually from a gun-related injury in the US, according to the study, published in the journal Pediatrics on Monday.
"Guns Kill Almost 1,300 US Children Annually," says the headline over a CNN story that begins with the case of a third-grader accidentally shot in the stomach at school by another student, describes a baby accidentally shot by his father, and closes with warnings about safe storage of firearms. The story creates a very misleading impression, since nearly four-fifth of the fatalities involved teenagers and most were homicides.
The CNN story was based on a study recently published in the journal Pediatrics that analyzed data on gun-related injuries and deaths among minors from 2002 through 2014. According to a table from the study, 78 percent of the deaths occurred among 13-to-17-year-olds, 53 percent were homicides, and 38 percent were suicides. Less than 4 percent were accidents involving children 12 or younger, so the examples cited by CNN are far from typical.
This sort of misrepresentation is an old trick among gun controllers, as David B. Kopel noted in Reason 24 years ago. "Gun-control advocates are hammering at the issue of children and guns as never before," Kopel wrote, "in the hope that it will be easier to enact gun controls aimed at adults in an atmosphere of panic about children." He pointed out that claims about "children" killed by guns conflate accidents involving little kids, which were relatively rare then and are even less common now, with suicides and gun violence involving teenagers.
i was talking bout those "throw a beanbag in a hole" games that you see nowadays at lawn parties. but yeah guns- a beanbag is better than rocksalt i suppose.
oh and in my best nelson voice "jart neck HaHa" (sorry axomoxa, teeny bit funny thinking bout you splaining your jart neck to tsa)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Not Jorts.
Not Jorts.
I used to love these things.
Anybody still have a set?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: VivalaSchwa
Jarts > Sharts.
Jarts > Sharts.
We had them until the Government came and confiscated them after they banned them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Short Time To Be There....
I am one of about 11 kids
I am one of about 11 kids nationwide who ended up with a Jart lodged in their body after accidents.
Its a TSA "Hey-Come-Here-and-Check-This-Out!" Moment every time i pass through body-scanners at airports.
My jart tip is too close to my jug.vein to remove safely. (Think Snake Pliskin except mine will not explode.)
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Instrument in the Darwin
Instrument in the Darwin awards...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
They wrote a song about that:
They wrote a song about that:
http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Ed%27s_Redeeming_Qualities:Lawn_Dart
"...This song is by Ed's Redeeming Qualities and appears on the album More Bad Times (1990).
It was the third of July and the weather was fine
Ed brought the hot dogs, the croquet set was mine
But the red ball was missing, three mallets were bent
Ed suggested lawn darts, so to K-Mart we went
We looked by the yard games, we looked by the grills
But we couldn't find lawn darts over water or hill
So we talked to the sales-clerk but she started to cry
She said they're off the shelves now, and she told us both why
A kid was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
Her dad didn't see her, that's the worst part
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
So they're now off the shelves at the K-Mart
We both felt so bad that we gave up the search
Ed went to bed and I went to church
Now we never grill hot dogs and we don't play yard games
Since we heard that sad story, things just aren't the same
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
Her dad didn't see her, that's the worst part
She was pegged in the head with a lawn dart
So they're now off the shelves at the K-Mart..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ImFlCNYrEA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
Empty Jart boxes are a
Empty Jart boxes are a commodity it seems, or even a few fins / rings...
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=...
Sorry I don't know how to shorten the URL.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board
Those were outlawed, right?
Those were outlawed, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Charlie
Gun control bill being
Gun control bill being consider in the House of Rep: Turn in your assault rifle receive free lawn dart set.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote
I traded mine for some heddy
I traded mine for some heddy klik klaks.
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Still have my Klik klaks in
Still have my Klik klaks in the attic somewhere,with a crack in them :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: VivalaSchwa
We called Klik-Klaks Whackey
We called Klik-Klaks Whackey Clackers.
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"Diane Sawyer & 60 Minutes
"Diane Sawyer & 60 Minutes aired this in 1988. This Episode, called "Mr Snow goes to Washington" is about one man taking on the system and winning when tragedy struck his family when a product, lawn darts killed his daughter Michelle. Lawn darts were later to be found illegally packaged & illegally sold and were also subsequently banned. It was discovered that this "toy" killed, brain damaged or injured over 6000 kids in an 8 year period."
https://youtu.be/yT_WxZ5GkJ0
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
They are, Timpane...
They are, Timpane...
Over a period of eight years, lawn darts had sent 6,100 people to the emergency room. 81% of those cases involved children 15 or younger, and half of those were 10 or younger. The majority of injuries were to the head, face, eyes or ears, and many had led to permanent injury or disability.
When the commission collected 21 different lawn dart sets from 14 manufacturers, they also found that most of them weren’t complying with the warning requirements. A survey of 53 retailers likewise found that many weren’t following the regulation, and in a third of the stores, lawn darts were displayed in toy departments or with toys and sporting equipment intended for kids. The commission met with lawn dart makers and distributors and struck a new agreement on improved labeling and retail practices. The commission published a new safety warning for lawn darts and scheduled a vote on an outright ban for later in the year.
The week of the vote, Snow went back to Washington, D.C. to lobby the commission and get press for his cause. He gave interviews to consumer reporters from TV stations and newspapers. He met with President Reagan's assistant for consumer affairs. Finally, he had meetings with each of the three consumer product safety commissioners. By the time they voted, Snow felt confident he had at least two of the three commissioners on his side.
He was right. As an 11-year-old girl in Tennessee lay in a coma from a lawn dart injury earlier that week, the commission voted 2-1 in favor of a ban. Lawn darts were removed from stores the week before Christmas in 1988 and banned from further sale. The ban did not, however, include a recall of darts that had already been purchased, and the commission sent out a press release pleading for the public to destroy their darts or keep them out of the hands of kids.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/31176/how-one-dad-got-lawn-darts-banned
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary
Was at a game at Yankee
Was at a game at Yankee Stadium in the 70's when someone tossed one
from the upper deck during the anthem landing close to 1st.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
I cannot understand why jarts
I cannot understand why jarts are banned.
Responsible jart owners should not be punished because others misuse the product.
The risk of injury is quite low, especially when compared to other products...
Now, a study based on data from 2012 to 2014 suggests that, on average, 5,790 children in the United States receive medical treatment in an emergency room each year for a gun-related injury. About 21% of those injuries are unintentional, similar to the third-grader's case.
From 2012 to 2014, on average, 1,297 children died annually from a gun-related injury in the US, according to the study, published in the journal Pediatrics on Monday.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/health/child-gun-violence-study/index.html
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That's a fascinating
That's a fascinating statistic.
What about Skateboards ??
Snowboards ??
I'm glad that See-Saws and Swings were banned long ago. Many kids got hurt back then.
My leg got broke in 5th grade from Skiing. Mommy should have kept me encased in a Nerf - Shell out on the slopes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Skateboarding is very safe,
Skateboarding is very safe, at least when it comes to the number of deaths...
The researchers examined data spanning two decades and found that more than 64,500 U.S. children and teens were treated in hospital emergency rooms each year -- about 176 a day -- for skateboarding-related injuries. Fractures and dislocations were among the most common injuries, the study indicated.
Five deaths were reported during the study period. All were due to motor vehicle collisions.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/skateboard-accidents-land-scores-of-kids-in...
When talking fatalities, skiing is apparently more dangerous than snowboarding...
Research for the National Ski Areas Association in the US claims to have settled the question: snowboarding has less risk of ending in serious injury.
Jasper Shealy, a professor emeritus at the Rochester Institute of Technology who has studied such injuries for 40 years, concluded that while snowboarders were between 50% to 70% more likely to get injured, they are also around a third less likely to be killed on the slopes than skiers. Most of the skiing deaths were "due to collisions with fixed objects, where somebody is going at a relatively high speed", said Shealy...
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2011/jan/17/skiing-snowboarding-study...
Looks like guns and jarts are much more dangerous, and cause more fatalities, than skateboarding and snowboarding. But jarts have been judged too dangerous for sale and use in the US, so at least we are safe from that threat.
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bean bags just arent the same
bean bags just arent the same.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
^you're right, Fly, bean bags
^you're right, Fly, bean bags are a non-lethal alternative to firearms...
The best alternative to lethal force
You understand that your self defense game plan requires true knock out power. You also understand that using deadly force could put yourself in legal jeopardy and injure loved ones. Here's why the ARMA 100 is your best alternative.
Only ARMA provides less than lethal force to knock out a violent attacker from up to 20 feet away while being safer than all other non lethal defense devices. This gives your family plenty of time to escape from a dangerous situation without having to resort to deadly force
http://www.armausa.com
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
A bean bag gun? I was once
A bean bag gun? I was once waiting for a bus outside my office in downtown Portland and there was a crazy guy just yelling and yelling. That's not unusual, but this guy was threatening and making people uncomfortable. A half dozen cops then came over from the courthouse across the street guns drawn. I ducked around the corner and watched as the cops warned him that they would shoot him with a bean bag if he didn't submit. He didn't and the cop shot him with a bean bag from a shotgun. Dude went down and was quickly cuffed and hauled off.
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12+ hours and no Sharts spin
12+ hours and no Sharts spin-off.
Proud of you kids.
My brother had a decent two-man tent ruined by a jart in the 70s. At least no on was inside at the time.
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>> From 2012 to 2014, on
>> From 2012 to 2014, on average, 1,297 children died annually from a gun-related injury in the US, according to the study, published in the journal Pediatrics on Monday.
"Guns Kill Almost 1,300 US Children Annually," says the headline over a CNN story that begins with the case of a third-grader accidentally shot in the stomach at school by another student, describes a baby accidentally shot by his father, and closes with warnings about safe storage of firearms. The story creates a very misleading impression, since nearly four-fifth of the fatalities involved teenagers and most were homicides.
The CNN story was based on a study recently published in the journal Pediatrics that analyzed data on gun-related injuries and deaths among minors from 2002 through 2014. According to a table from the study, 78 percent of the deaths occurred among 13-to-17-year-olds, 53 percent were homicides, and 38 percent were suicides. Less than 4 percent were accidents involving children 12 or younger, so the examples cited by CNN are far from typical.
This sort of misrepresentation is an old trick among gun controllers, as David B. Kopel noted in Reason 24 years ago. "Gun-control advocates are hammering at the issue of children and guns as never before," Kopel wrote, "in the hope that it will be easier to enact gun controls aimed at adults in an atmosphere of panic about children." He pointed out that claims about "children" killed by guns conflate accidents involving little kids, which were relatively rare then and are even less common now, with suicides and gun violence involving teenagers.
http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/20/cnn-report-on-children-killed-by-guns-em
"Children":
https://www.nationalreview.com/blog/corner/cdc-gun-study-counts-17-year-...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
17 year olds don't count as
17 year olds don't count as children?
That's your retort?
What a pathetic and immoral argument.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _
Yeah, it's intentionally
Yeah, it's intentionally misleading and an appeal to emotion.
a child (plural: children) is a human being between the stages of birth and puberty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Doubling down on your immoral
Doubling down on your immoral rationalization?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly
i was talking bout those
i was talking bout those "throw a beanbag in a hole" games that you see nowadays at lawn parties. but yeah guns- a beanbag is better than rocksalt i suppose.
oh and in my best nelson voice "jart neck HaHa" (sorry axomoxa, teeny bit funny thinking bout you splaining your jart neck to tsa)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
I know, fly, but it was the
I know, fly, but it was good opportunity to discuss a non-lethal options to firearms.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Ender, so dead 17 year olds
Ender, so dead 17 year olds are acceptable because you don't consider them children?
Can you give the rationalization for dismissing these deaths and injuries?