Sitting here pondering what the future holds for us as a society and as a world. Much of this has been prompted the last few days by all the reports of Uber pushing its self driving cars. Combine this office automation which allows for a lighter work force (Paperless today, Personless tomorrow!). Combine that with industrial automation that makes even the best case scenario for Trump's factory workers pretty grim. What ARE the jobs we will have? Is employment realistic for most people 20 years from now? How about 50? Is the concept of employment going to be passe?
Health care--certainly, although my health care assistant can't take my pulse if the automatic machine isn't working. Aside from the actual doctors and nurses, this is being automated at the same level as any office job, but there will always be some people involved.
Building stuff -- yes, but once things are built then what?
Transportion - see self driving trucks. Yes on maintenance.
Growing food - when white people agree to work the fields, we will no longer be able to afford to eat
Service - of course. Except every restaurant has counter ordering and McD's wants to replace cashiers with ipads.
Retail - they are building a giant amazon distribution plant here. Won't that get automated too?
Education - yes. I am going to form a charter school. Fuck everyone else's kids.
IT- sure, programming the robots. Won't robots do that?
War - always
So, what do we do in the future when everything can be done with hardly any employees? What jobs will there be? Working in the robot factories? Will they still tie our health care to our jobs when they have no need for jobs?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GoneGoodbye RocknRye
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 02:15 pm
Mental Health Care.
Mental Health Care.
Less jobs, more boredom and feelings of helplessness as we move from industry to service based jobs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 02:18 pm
Prostitution always ahs been
Prostitution always ahs been and always will be a hot job.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 02:19 pm
lawyer
software coder
electronic and mechanical engineer
banker
lawyer
judge
bureaucrat
politician
social worker
trimmer
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 02:22 pm
I just do what they ask me to
I just do what they ask me to do. Show up, keep up, shut up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 02:44 pm
Robot-fixer seems like a good
Robot-fixer seems like a good idea.
Maybe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:05 pm
All low skill jobs will be
All low skill jobs will be done by robots. Most building will be done by 3D printing.
Get a gubment job!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:13 pm
3D Printer sales rep.
3D Printer sales rep.
3D printer materials sales, delivery & service.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:14 pm
Thom, who pays you to google?
Thom, who pays you to google?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:19 pm
Slacker....when they tell you
Slacker....when they tell you to "Show up, keep up, shut up.", do they care you zone all day long?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:22 pm
>Is the concept of employment
>Is the concept of employment going to be passe?<
god i hope so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:23 pm
Me too, turtle. Once i get
Me too, turtle. Once i get this kid through college I'm buying that hot dog cart.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:28 pm
Emerging job market...fake
Emerging job market...fake Jerry's
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:32 pm
Trimmer?
Trimmer?
Obviously you aren't familiar with the Twister T4: http://hydrobuilder.com/twister-t4-trimmer-trimming-machine-leaf-collect...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:35 pm
Gubment jobs cutting all non
Gubment jobs cutting all non-essentials with the paperless process. Same with bureaucrats. No more guy to fix copier, no more paper delivery, no more filing or mailroom. We'll always have receptionists. No, wait. Now there's a phone in the hallway. Good luck guessing the extension.
Catering. Job of the future.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:36 pm
trimmer
trimmerTop of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:37 pm
Who, Ned? The people with
Who, Ned? The people with clean pools that I don't talk to or the bosses who don't get complaints from pool owners or myself?
You make time managent sound like something a baby boomer could never master. I make everything i do look easy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:41 pm
Yea, me too. People hate me.
Yea, me too.
People hate me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:44 pm
nedb, I'd forgotten about
nedb, I'd forgotten about your hot dog cart idea! I still like it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:46 pm
The Automat concept was a
The Automat concept was a flop, judit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 03:52 pm
Govt jobs are on a serious
Govt jobs are on a serious decline at state and municipal levels to save money because police and fire employees retirement are breaking the banks. It's common .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:07 pm
>> The Automat concept was a
>> The Automat concept was a flop, judit.
Let me clarify....I think a well run hot dog cart (food truck, whatever), is something insulated from automation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: popi feeldz
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:13 pm
>>.Obviously you aren't
>>.Obviously you aren't familiar with the Twister T4
obviously you aren't familiar with good weed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:16 pm
hahaha
hahaha
trimmer
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Probable Cosby dickyb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:28 pm
robot prostitute
robot prostitute
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:31 pm
Because robots have needs too
Because robots have needs too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:37 pm
Master Grower
Master Grower
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 04:48 pm
>> IT- sure, programming the
>> IT- sure, programming the robots. Won't robots do that?
I don't know of any practical examples. I mean I've seen IDEs create templates or auto-generate code based on a UI design. And sure programs can learn and change based on new data sets, but I've never seen anything meaningful produced from scratch by an automation.
Earlier in my career, I was worried that programmers in 2nd/3rd world would replace 1st world developer's but there doesn't seem to be a shortage in job or any slip in pay/benefits yet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 05:02 pm
I assume the inventing new
I assume the inventing new code will be human, but IT will often be done remotely, and fewer employees mean fewer IT needed. Of course, as the few employees left do most of their work on computer, there will always be a need to keep systems running and compatible. Also robot repair.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 05:35 pm
It's called keeping abreast
It's called keeping abreast of things Slacker. Give it a try sometime.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Don Volume Burnz
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 05:39 pm
Demolition consultant.
Demolition consultant.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:15 pm
Thom, i remember what you
Thom, i remember what you said your household income is. I also watched you lie about the economy since I've been here. A few weeks ago i got you to admit that the economy has never been better. Luxury items flying off the shelves for the last 8 years.
Please return to your spin zone and stop contradicting your talking points memos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:30 pm
When there are fewer
When there are fewer workplaces, we will need fewer hot dog stands.
At least when self driving cars are bringing us pizza we don't have to tip.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:45 pm
Thom has a chip on his
Thom has a chip on his shoulder because he has a semi-government job catering to spoiled, white liberal kids.
Slack has a chip on his shoulder because he doesn't have Thom's job.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:47 pm
Thom's job isn't in
Thom's job isn't in California.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:50 pm
There are way more public
There are way more public university libraries in CA than there are in DE. He likes the spoiled liberal kids on the East Coast more though. They have an edge.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Red Dog WalxAroundTime
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:50 pm
Hey now very interesting
Hey now very interesting questions! Did you read Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Corey Doctorow? It has kind of strong assumptions regarding technological progress but gives very nice answers.
As an ebook It is published under a Creative Common Licence or something like that. That means you can read the ebook for free. See here: http://craphound.com/down/download/
If you want to pay for it you will need to go to the bookstore and buy the hardcopy.
So i was wondering: the guy's job is a writer. But he gives his shit away for free? Sure he has another job. But that is the general direction: maybe we won't need to work anymore to satisfy our basic needs but instead just be doing what we want to do and maybe we will have more than one job. First be a nurse for 10 years. Then be a journalist. Then a musician. And so on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jon jonnyjonjon
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 06:54 pm
alias it sounds like your
alias it sounds like your breathing a lot of fear based thinking into the future... when its really un necessary...
try to enjoy your day, today!!!!
the future will be fine. trust me.... people thought when cars took over that it was the end of the world....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 07:45 pm
I would be fine with a post
I would be fine with a post work socialist utopia jonny. I'll be long gone, or at least past my working years, when we have finally been rendered completely redundant. However, various actual events in news and real life have made me think, hmmmmmm, so what now? That's what a curious mind does.
Coal mining. I hear it's the next big thing. Robots hate coal dust. Job of the future.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell China-Rider
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 07:54 pm
.... people thought when cars
Maybe that was the beginning of the end.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 07:56 pm
every retired person i know
every retired person i know is busy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fish fish
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 07:57 pm
as long as people eat
as long as people eat chickens, there will still be a need for sexers and debeakers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:21 pm
indoor grow equipment sales -
indoor grow equipment sales - weed seems to be popular
toilet paper (manufacturing) - it's not oxygen, but it might as well be
alcoholic beverages - cheap or expensive....
lawyers to handle medical bankruptcy claims - affordable healthcare
laborers.... the rich and lazy have needs, too
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:24 pm
President-Elect Cheeto-face
President-Elect Cheeto-face promised to bring back Coal.
Coal mining.
Yes, that's the GOP plan to
re-invigoirate"make great" the economy again..That and tax cuts for billionaires.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:26 pm
>>> toilet paper
>>> toilet paper (manufacturing) - it's not oxygen, but it might as well be
My core investments are toilet paper, soap, toothpaste, tobacco, booze, drugs and oil.
I know my humans.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:36 pm
"Metropolis" will become a
"Metropolis" will become a reality.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:37 pm
The coal mining companies don
The coal mining companies don't give a shit about coal. Where there's coal there's natural gas, and that's where the real money is.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 08:37 pm
Can we cut down all the
Can we cut down all the eucalyptus trees?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: christulsatime tulsatime
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 09:02 pm
BK I wouldn't say that where
BK I wouldn't say that where there is coal there is natural gas. Coal does produce methane gas. The real deal is with large shale rock fracs there is so much natural gas that coal is far more
expensive to use to produce energy. The energy industry is changing constantly, and shale gas is where it is at in the U.S. has been since 2000. Once Trump is in office the regulations
recently put into place: the ones that prevent to much frac water put down disposal wells will end. Eventually Tulsa, or Oklahoma City will be hit with a 7.0 or plus earth quake, and many
people will die, and the property damage will be amazing. I don't think Trump gives a shit about that. :(
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 09:10 pm
financing, credit & currency,
financing, credit & currency, will always need fraud investigators. automation can be a great tool in that, but people will always be needed for those types of services. at least until computers evolve to have intelligence (which I read more & more articles about every day), and when they reach the logical conclusion, hello T100.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: BBGD4fun NealC
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 09:19 pm
Funny, I just updated my
Funny, I just updated my resume and linkedin thingy as I've been laid off from my current position. When I chose my college major I figured hell, no matter what is happening there will always be a need for someone to count the beans, so I went the CPA (I haven't practiced in public accounting since the first few years)/Finance route. So far so good, I just need 10-15 more years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 10:20 pm
>Thom, who pays you to google
>Thom, who pays you to google?
lol so true
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 – 10:53 pm
Building sea walls
Building sea walls
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: mr lizardo Lizard Lips
on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 – 12:37 am
Ive had this discussion in
Ive had this discussion in 2012 with alot smarter cat then my self sitting in traffic on the bay bridge going
to work. Humans need to find another roll, gig, purpose or whatever to make it. What that may be, no clue
but the bardering system always worked for me at the shows. Who knows man, a scary thought but it is and
will happen. Peace love light and music.......
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: mr lizardo Lizard Lips
on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 – 12:38 am
Im going gone, to gonesville
Im going gone, to gonesville
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan Nugstradamus
on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 – 02:39 am
It's the mergers stupid!
It's the mergers stupid!
Were an ownership society. Hundreds of successful companies products collected under one roof (Conglomerate). What happened to those hundreds of accounting, marketing, sales & R&D departments? Management and shareholders get paid handsomely but most workers got a "fuck you" and thanks for nothing layoff.
Ownership society where profits trickle up up up up!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 – 02:43 am
My core investments are
Don't forget tampons.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 – 08:52 am
Kimberly Clark makes diapers,
Kimberly Clark makes diapers, kleenex, tampons, toilet paper...and depends adult diapers.
That lat one will be a big seller over the net four years.