John Scher interview // Ticketmaster, Concert Promoting and Phil Lesh take down

Lefsetz's podcast is fantastic. Never miss an episode.

The best moment to me is when Scher quotes Dylan coming out of Garcia’s funeral “ ya know, the guy lying in there? He’s the only guy that knows what it’s like to be me.”

Wow I mean none of it is surprising other than how sanitized most of the inside books and articles have been to date. Also the story about Kid pretty much backs up everything I've heard. I wonder if this will start opening the floodgates. I'm sure there are a lot of untold stories like this. 

Weir's reported speculation about Jill's ability to suck the paint off of a battleship is the line to beat.

It's all fun and games until the acid wears off.

Who has two hours to listen to this stuff?

State job+WFH+Friday Before Christmas+Fast Forward. That covers it for me can't speak for anyone else. 

There's a poorly transcribed transcript, Bss.

Man, that was indeed a really terrible transcription. Thanks Mike 

phil throwing Bobby down the stairs is, well...

it hurts me too

JP thanks for posting this. 4 folks who like inny gossipy stuff (like me) it was a real treat. 

I thought it was Jerry that threw Phil down the stairs. 

JP thanks for posting this. 4 folks who like inny gossipy stuff (like me) it was a real treat. 
As previously stated, Phil does not come out sounding or acting all that swell. He does give Jill credit 4 saving Phil's life, but also notes that she didn't know much about the music business. Also that Phil empowered her. 
Many of us have heard these things before, but to hear it from someone who was there for so long is better then second hand news.
As for Phil... He will always remain one of the best bass players /musicians that I have had the privilege to hear. As for for the other stuff... we all suffer failings as human beings. I have a hard enough time passing judgment on myself. Not actually knowing Phil, there's no real need for me to evaluate what he does. One last thing. Let Phil sing. Oh wait he already does that. Never mind. Carry on. 

> I thought it was Jerry that threw Phil down the stairs. 

Both Jerry & Phil have talked about this, so that can act as confirmation.

Maybe these siwwy hippies all liked throwing each other down stairs. 

I thought it was Billy who beat on Bob in the early days.

What Scher says about Phil/Jill seems to confirm what Selvin was talking about in his FTW book.

 how dare you, go to your room

- betty draper

Thanks for the post- I knew Cameron when he was a student at UCSC, always a chill dude.

Rod Smallwood, who's the manager of Iron Maiden.....

Rod Smallwood?  Made me think of.....

I listened to the second half.  Doesn't paint a great picture although I'm sure there are different points of view. 

It makes sense Weir would go sober during February.  That was usually a recovery month for the band from the road.

Interesting interview and perspective on Weir and the night Furthur / Weir crashed and burned at the Cap.

Phil and JK hardly moved a muscle to help Weir.

By Ken D. (Portland_ken) on Saturday, December 16, 2023 – 02:25 pm

...Here is John Barlow's statement after Vince's death, which seems to pick up on that attitude...

..."As a culture, we were never big on emotional vulnerability. Like a caribou herd, we had learned, over a long period of time, to leave our cripples behind on the tundra rather than risk the entire local genome. That’s life, Dude. Devil take the hindmost."

I see both sides of this coin.   

On one side it's appalling to hear and see people not help a "brother" in need - although despite the interview's opinion, Phil does appear to look at Booby in the above photo.  On the other side of the coin... after dealing with those who continue to get fucked up beyond their limits over and over, at some point you become numb and there is just a sense of being done with their tom foolery.   I'm not saying it's the right sense, but I've been there multiple times where I've tried to help or assist and at some point come to the rationalization that it's not my job to continually pick up them up for a lifespan  - unless you want it to be your job.  That may seem cold hearted, but it's exhausting.   

Can barely imagine the number of people - loved ones included - in their orbit since '65 they've watched run straight down hill with abandon and know that it's out of their hands. Or they themselves were in so deep there was no way of helping others. They were on their own Ship of Fools at times, too.

Also, the show must go on.

And:  We're no going to tell one another what to do.

Just throw them down the stairs from time to time.

finally finished this.

really does not paint a flattering picture. i mean i know these are human beings but...shit man.

that was rough.

Judged by John Scher.  

M'kay.

phil threw in the towel long ago, 2015 "officially"

bill threw in the towel

bobby generates money every time he hits the stage for phil and bill

bobby is a warrior continuing the grateful dead legacy 

who should kick to harry? maybe all??

Listened to pt2 - last 40 min

Have read similar commentary on Phil & Jill in other places. Steve Kimmock might have a thought or two.

I just like to see him play bass on GD songs, tho'