Let's Talk About The Worst Genre Ever

Got a buddy who tried to get me into Blind Guardian

 No spot taken

Opera

1. Female comedies

2. Super Hero

3. Silent

Not sure what Nu Metal is but it can't be worse than Bro Country.

Country Rap Rock has to be worse. 

2 votes for opera. And don't get me started on Celtic. "Didn't they already play that one?"

>>>Have yourselves a listen to this:

Ok that is pretty bad. Especially with the appearance of Pauly Shore. But that is offset a bit by the appearance of Snoop Dogg so my vote for the wurst still goes for Bro Country.

I'll listen to that, Mark, but Rusty nailed it with Celtic. Opera, Celtic, worst.

I tried. If that's nu metal, my list is getting longer.

 >>>>>nu metal

Never heard it but the name alone is enough to put me off.

aww judit, im sorry to see you list opera!! its absolutely one of my most favorite!!!!

maybe i need to turn you on.

Pop culture is for custies.

Celtic?

havent you ever looked up a kilt for kicks, Judit?!

the *uck is Nu Metal?!

Well, anyone who includes Limp in their band name is just cruisin for a bruisin. Amarite?

jon, I'm sure to be a tough sell, but you can try.

No, Ro, I haven't.

Warren Haynes singing anything. 

Worse than new country?

I am soft enough these days to recognize that every shitty genre has one good album. I've attended operas and enjoyed and I like it at the fusty old cat guy bookstore. Celtic is one of the roots of bluegrass. And yet it still sucks. Except waterboys and rre.

dad.rock is the worst 

Popular Country Music, like the stuff on today's radio, is the worst.

I just learned that there is a genre called "math rock". Seriously. 

Worst genre has to be Screamo or whatever that painful dirge is called. 

Nu metal (also known as nü-metal and aggro-metal) is a form of alternative metal that combines elements of heavy metal music with elements of other music genres such as hip hop

They do have some great band names though. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screamo_bands

According to Wiki, there's a D.C-based . "math rock" band called Hoover.

>Let me just add a bit of context to this thread for the folks at home who may have missed out on the past 25 years of pop culture.

At times I'm at a loss for words about how little many zoners know about life happening around them.  

>>>>>Some would argue that never in the history of recorded music have we ever been blessed with a wider breadth of quality recordings than we were in the 90's.

Lol. Some would.

Someone likes it.

What is that to me?

I have a full plate keeping up with what I like.

^^^^^ This.

Nope, not familiar.

I would name my nu metal band King of Monsters after Kojira. 

Doh...

https://www.facebook.com/KingOfMonstersMI/

They did break up, tho. 

The Youtube?

Is that like on a computer or something?

I am no fan of Nu Metal, nor have I ever even cared for any of the bands in that genre at all. However, Fred Durst and his band were the most popular of Nu Metal at the time with huge record sales, so I guess he is definitely the easy target here. From my observations of long ago, his fans appeared to be backwards wearing ball cap white boys with a jock look, tribal tattoos, and seemed to portray an incredible amount of angry energy. Cultural appropriation also comes to mind as well. Something tells me, though, he doesn't give a rat's ass. Nookie and money- he achieved his goal.

Wasn't aware of Dischord Records but have heard some of those bands - they just don't tickle my endorphins.

Just as much if not more garbage has come out of the jamband genre.

Very true, Mr. Timpane. Serious garbage music and plenty of sketch people as well.

Any genre is 90% crap, but some of those genres, even the "good" 10%, just don't hold any interest for me.

I attended a korn concert in the 90's.

rob zombie opened, it was ok

Cultural appropriation is the most ridiculous buzz word out there. 

Surf  = it's more about paying attention/expanding your taste then necessarily liking every band. 

I have a Limp Bizkit postcard somewhere I bought as a joke to send to someone and never sent it.  I ususaly run across it when we move.

I bet most zoners probably don't care for Power Pop Punk bands either.  I dig some Lagwagon or Strung Out every so often.  

>>>>Any genre is 90% crap

Interesting theory that's probably not without merit

>>>>>>Any genre is 90% crap

Lots of albums are too

>>>>>>Where do you guys put Rage Against The Machine in all of this? 

Never was a huge fan but enjoyed them when someone was playing them.

is moshing genres (ie. rap metal) really all that original?  

De la rocha seems like kind of a poseur but rage was pretty on fire there for a bit in the 90's.

>>>>> it's more about paying attention/expanding your taste then necessarily liking every band

I prefer not to listen to stuff I have determined I don't like. If my taste remains incompletely expanded I'm OK with that.

I liked Rage.  I liked Fugazi a lot. More than most other bands on Dischord.

Worst genre is probably the one that requires a dance troup and has Katy Perry in it.

Couldn't miss it, mark.

i thought it was fitting considering rtj's politics.

And Can u explain your question in a little bit more detail, hall?

fuck u, I won't mosh when u tell me?

>>>>> I saw Rage on the Evil Empire tour in '96 and honestly walked away pretty certain they were the best band in the world at that time.  

I was always into more mellow stuff.  I loved Nirvana, Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, Bad Religion and stuff like that but never really cared for Metal at all.  Through The Fire by Chaka Khan is currently playing on my stereo.

Which reminds me, I think Phil should sit in with the Chris Robinson Brotherhood for a set of Chaka Kahn tunes at TXR sometime.

I think Rage was just too angry all the time for me.  They didn't have any comedy involved in their tunes (to my knowledge anyway) either and I like that.  Did they have a love song, or anything of a happy nature?  I kind of like a little of both.  Can't have light without dark kind of thinking.  I liked bands that could do a little of both which is what drew me to the GD.

>>>>>>I think Rage just captured a certain energy at the perfect time. 

Yeah they were huge.  I was just too nerdy for them. I was in a sketch comedy troop in 93-95.  Yeah, that nerdy.

I love this thread

>>>>>>>>I love this thread

It's a fun thread.

I'm sure somebody will come take a big shit in it soon enough.

I have sbd audio from an early 2000's primus show where claypool, in typical fashion, berates an audience member for flipping him off.

"go see a limp bizkit show, sir"

I don't always agree with you St. Mark but I wholeheartedly agree that Nu Metal is terrible shit!  Limp Bizkit Korn etc. it's just not good music!

>>I'm sure somebody will come take a big shit in it soon enough.

It is a good thread. Not sure of the need for the negative expectations. Not sure they enhance the enjoyment of a good thread.

>>>Nu metal killed the 90's. It's an ugly blemish on an otherwise impeccable run.

i don't know, mainstream hip hop really tanked in the late 90's: puff daddy, master p, etc.

Master P should have been tossed off a bridge for the shit gangster movie he made.  The music was a secondary offense.

Didddy killed east coast rap in the late 90's? He gave you B.I.G., Jadakiss and the Lox. Then he brought back Nas. How did he kill it , exactly?

Nu metal.. eeek.

I'm in a somewhat unique position amongst most of you in that I was in my formative years when nu metal was a really big thing.  I was very into nu metal in the late 90's and early 00's before moving onto more hardcore/grindcore type stuff.  Influential bands for me in these early years were:

• Sevendust
• Nonpoint
• Taproot
• 40 Below Summer
• Coal Chamber
• American Head Charge
• Fear Factory
• Godhead
• Il Nino
• Machine Head
• Mushroom Head
• Steromud!
• Orgy
• Snot
• Static-X

Speaking of Static-X, learned recently that Wayne Static killed himself a few years ago.  I crowd surfed for the first time in 2001 at his show at the WAAF's Big Field Day in Brockton, MA.  

Ahh.  Memories.  

I graduated into more hardcore (I always liked some of that straightedge-type shit like madball and stuff) and grindcore (Napalm Death, Daughters, Agoraphobic Nosebleed) and then, ultimately, onto the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix when I started burning and then (maybe not-so-coincidentally) the Dead as I got deeper into exploring consciousness.  

((Music))

I'm just talking about Diddy as a promoter, producer, and businessman. He did a great job. His rapping is nothing at all to brag about. He got lucky a few times with his rhymes but most producers I listen to are always far behind the rappers they are working with. Swiss beats is absolutely terrible but I respect him for his production. Lil Kim was also the shit. Dr. Dre's rhymes are hit or miss on the first chronic as well. Producers trying to rap.

I DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE!

Run The Jewels~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfuCLp8VEng

I feel like Kaynes rapping went on a rapid decline after that album "Heartless". The only song I really ever enjoyed if his is the one where he's rapping and his jaw just got reconstructed.

I only saw Rage one time at Lollapalooza 1993- very good show and high angry energy. It was cool, and I was never a massive fan, but seeing them reminded me of going to see Ministry in their heavy hardcore industrial days. Those shows of such intense energy of swirling moshpits and stagediving like it was everything at that moment, and it was. Talk about the sweat dripping off the ceiling! Yeah, RATM too had that energy, just for a different time and crowd. Pretty amazing and unreal how certain frontmen can really move an audience.

Can we put Macklemore on the list please? 

Hate isn't a strong enough word to describe how I feel about his 'woke' white rapper schtick. 

Does Mack not know how to flow? 

There is only one genre man

On the flip side to that comment about Dre, I would say his rhymes on 2001 are great. He kills that shit. All in all one of the best rap albums ever made, IMO. I can see why he put the brakes on Detoux. Hard to top 2001.

Zydeco.  Similar to Celtic:  You've heard 3 min's of Zydeco, you've heard a Lifetime of Zydeco.  Shirley a Genre for Tourists & Gumbo Cook Off's.

So, you may ask, why would I focus on such an Obscure Genre?  Well, it being Me and all, of course there's a looooonnnng Nerdy story behind it:

So back in the late 1990's/early 2000's I used to attend the Rhythm & Roots festival in Charleston RI every Labor Day Weekend on a pretty regular basis, usually daytripping for the best lineup each year.  I knew some folks who were somewhat associated with the festival, helping with setup/logistics/etc, and so had some "innie info" on the festie's workings.  So they told me there was an inner Conflict within the Festie regulars between the majority of festie organizers, who were fans of Americana/ Roots/ Blues/ Folk/ Bluegrass/etc, which were the main type of acts typically invited to play, and a smaller but VERY militant and vocal clique of Zydeco Enthusiasts, who always wanted to convert the festival into a pure Zydeco fest.  I was told, this conflict raged on their message board all year, with Vicious flame wars that made the latter days of the old Zone look like a Kumbaya Fest.

I happened to witness the Militancy of this Zydeco clique upon one occasion in the early 2000's, during NRBQ's set, a half dozen or so of these Zydeco fans were all decked out in extreme huge Mardi Gras type costumes with giant "rage sticks", and were dancing up a Huge storm in the dance area in front of the stage, kicking up a huge dust cloud, muscling out other fans who happened to be standing in their way ala stories I used to hear about that Horse Hair Lady @ the Warfield. Now I have to give these Zydeco Militants Props, as it was a very hot, dry day, & the dance area was the infield of the baseball diamond, and their costumes were no mere bedsheets & masks, these were full on plaster Mardi Gras costumes, 9' tall, & these Militants were dancing up a storm in a noxious cloud of dust.  It did manage to juice up the band, I doubt NRBQ had seen such an Enthusiastic audience in Decades.  The Keyboardist, Joey Spamannamalattalot (or whatever his name), actually hammered on his keyboard so hard he literally destroyed it.  It was quite Funny.

So I heard from my friends this was barely the most Obnoxious thing to happen - one time the Zydeco Militants organized a conga line of costumed slam dancers & invaded the main area in front of the stage, occupied by all the meat-in-your-seater mainstream festival goers decked out in their lounge chairs, upsetting many a Wine Cooler & Cheese Plate.  Besides just wanting nothing but Zydeco music, I was told the Zydeco Militants went as far as wanting only Cajun food sold @ the venue, which woulda been a shame as the fried seafood gunk merchants were amongst the Best in New England, I used to buy the fried Captain's Dinner & take it home, having 2 - 3 more meals of fried gunk from the leftovers.

Over the years it was gradually turning into more & more Zydeco, around 2009 or 2010 was one of the last times I attended the fest for awhile (Hot Tuna was the headliner - that night Cryppy got Kidnapped by a bunch of Trippin' Balls Providence Mafiosi Wise Guys, a Story for the Ages but for Another Time), subsequent years I checked out the lineup and it indeed was all Zydeco, so the Militants wore down the opposition & got their way.  Also, I lost contact with the guys I used to know (they retired & moved down south), so I had no idea what happened to this festie for a number of years.

Then, lo & behold, last summer, the "old" type lineup was back, with absolutely NO Zydeco, & I went to the festie for a day (Lucinda Williams, Taj Mahal, Donna the Buffalo, & a bunch of Smurf Bands), & there was no sign of Zydeco Militants, and of course the Captain's Platter was back!!!!!!!  So in the end, the Roots fans eventually beat the Zydeco Militants, but it was a long hard Slog . . . .

http://www.rhythmandroots.com/

Some Zydeco this year tho . . . 

Bob, don't ever change.  Love you.

Not really a genre, but in the '90's there were a Slew of bands in which whose name the last Verb was replaced by an Apostrophe, & all were typical lame boring Modern Rock Middle of the Road Gunk.  Stain'd is the only name I can think of @ the moment . . . 

A good mosh pit can go along way, imo, it can take shitty music into the realm of human cartoon watching, and when karate man is in the pit thats when wheel starts to smoke

In 1980 I was at a show at JBs downstairs (punk shows were downstairs)in Kent Ohio, and there was some lineman from the football team throwing scrawney punk rockers all over the place. A couple broken bones and some bloodletting went down that night.