Meet Up At The Movies 2023

Post Brent....sad

All the previous Meet Ups were fun, but I had seen the concert footage beforehand. THis one interests me because its a pretty strong show for the Summer 1991 tour, and I've never seen the footage.

The whole tour is exemplary and while I'd put 6/22 somewhere in the middle, in comparison to the rest of the tour, it will be nice to see.

My one Garcia Dark Star was at this show, and while it was only a jam, I'd still like to see it again.

Good Stuff! I enjoyed this show and rank it fairly well for the year and era. I saw it as well as Deer Creek and Buckeye Lake that tour and look forward to hopefully catching it on the big screen once again.

I thought we had agreed it would be 1978 Cameron Indoor

Mikedrop, that was the Summer '91 Tour where they teased the arrival of the 2nd verse of Dark Star all the way across America. Seriously crazy shit!

The maternity dress look was in with the Spinners in 1991.

maybe my initial reaction/judgment was premature, I actually worked the summer tour in the NE, it wast bad...i guess my post Brent prejudice stems from some of the bummer shows i saw in '94

>>>i guess my post Brent prejudice stems from some of the bummer shows i saw in '94

Yeah same here. My first show was May 79 so Brent's sound was the Dead for me. The 90's made me a lot more understanding of all the older heads who complained in the 80's. 

Dates, times, and locations are now available.

https://www.meetupatthemovies.com/

^Thanks MIKE-drop! Great! On top of my usual hood's art house theater showings, Is see there is another, 3rd date of July 6, @ TCL Chinese Theater in Hollywood....in IMAX. Far Out.

Always loved these Meet Ups, but they are no longer local. I'd have to travel 3 hours and get a hotel.

> in IMAX

Yeah, I'll be headed up to Bakersfield on June 24th, where it'll be in IMAX too.

IMAX theater is just a five minute drive here.  It's a fun way to take in the show.  

Sweet!

This can be alex's bday gift, as it takes place a week before 

Wasn't at this one so it'll be extra fun

Tahoe City 12:30p Saturday, 2D - Yeah!!!

friends are going...debating.

None in my town.

I'm Stoked! It was great the first time and I can't think of a better reason to be in a theater tonight, although I have a planned 'change of venue' upgrade after seeing the Willie Nelson show/movie in a much better than expected theater. I agree with David Limieux about Terrapin on the big screen being something to behold. He also dropped a friendly reminder that patrons can request and oftentimes get increases on the volume ;) 

David's seaside chat on the matter at hand:

https://youtu.be/edeKDi2IKc0

> Limieux...also dropped a friendly reminder that patrons can request and oftentimes get increases on the volume ;) 

He also encourages people to dance in the aisles. Like we need to be told that.

It was good to see Mickey banging on the drums like it was 1977 . Someone bought a big piece of blue fabric , cut three holes in it , put the saddest looking pocket on it

and gave it to Jerry to wear . One piano player too many. Previously discussed super cheesy graphics showed up quite often but never lasted too long. 

I had to miss as I'm in remote NH at the moment but my buddy in ATL said there were only 10 people in attendance.   Curious how packed other venues were.  

I plan to watch it on Saturday in Harrisburg PA.  Last year we had a pretty big crowd.

The Regal Cinema at Thornton Place ended up not showing it on their IMAX screen, so I went to the SIFF Egyptian Theatre on Capitol Hill.  Surprisingly small turnout of 40-50 people.

Good to see the band still firing on all cylinders.

There were probably 30 people in the theater where I saw it last night and I thought that the show, video, and sound was decently representative of a 'good' show from that year/tour/era...but again/still painfully reminded me of the huge whole that Brent's passing had left and how high/tiney the mix mostly was, particularly with both Vince and Bruce on stage, to the point where there seemed to be a lotta low end loss (Phil). By the way, Phil seemed fairly disappointed when LL Rain rolled around - we've all probably been there - even though he had to know it was coming, based on the then-commonplace pre-planned set lists that were pasted up by each band member.

I'm glad I went to the movie but more glad I missed this show in person.

They should title the movie "The Beginning of the End."

Yes, I know there were spurts of greatness in the years that followed, but this movie demonstrated that by summer 91 the band was moving toward full autopilot.

This was not new family man relatively healthy-looking back from Hawaii with a tan exuding joy and playfulness Jerry.

This was disheveled I don't give a fuck how I look and I'm tired of Manasha and I'm tired of the whole Grateful Dead machine and why do we have two keyboards anyway I'll keep myself distracted by playing around with this MIDI Jerry. Chin on chest Jerry most of the time. Not all the time. But a lot.

The band rarely interacted with each other -- they were each stuck in their chosen role. Mickey and Vince seemed like the the only ones actually trying to have fun.

Poor Vince. Poor Bruce. Too many players onstage and everyone knew it.

Don't let the set list full ya. I thought the Weight encore was the best part of the show.

I wasn't real happy with the audio mix either -- it was edited so the lead instrument was artificially out front loud, but the rest of the band was pushed into the background. Made it hard to distinguish Phil. Didn't sound like a real concert.

But I had fun.

 

 

I believe the Pine Knob show from 6/20 was much better than this 6/22 show.  Was at both of them. I think that the summer '91 tour was quite good. I wonder how they decide which shows to use for these meet up at the movies. 

I think I heard David Lemieux say this show was originally supposed to show at the 2020 meet-up during the pre-show segment.

I want to see the show Herbal Dave saw, but I'm guessing I'll see the one Alan saw.

i was gonna ask them to turn it up

and i get the reviews:

sounding directly written from the times lol d'oh

it was good for me, regardless any potential bitchery

(((((boys)))))

that said, if *only* i was turned onto phish by then !!

Mike just go with no expectations

and Vitamin L

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One redeeming feature of this show is that this is when Bob first realized the fashion potential of the poncho.

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That shirt was more of a tarp than a poncho....

But you may have a point Alan.

 

This is one of those shows where they do a decently vibrant Shakedown as the second song (that sounds promising, huh?) and then do an extended 20 minutes of the coda (if that's the right word) not because it served the music, but because they were so uninspired they got stuck on easy repeat. "Nothin's happening....used to be the heart of town" (repeat 400 times) kinda described the first set. Oh, there was a good Brown Eyed Women that got Jerry going. 

Second set was slightly better, but instead of visionary exploration, it seemed like mandatory musical masturbation. Terrapin was not majestic like it could be. Not even close. Some of Space was interesting but the Playin > somewhat Darkstar > Playin sandwich fizzled. Never seemed strong and deliberate.The camera was on Mickey for the majority of Drums because I think Billy actually left the venue for a while he ws so bored. I remember a Black Peter and a Sat night (yawn). And I thought The Weight encore was real good because they finally acted challenged and out of their comfort zone -- or maybe they were just happy the show was over.

Like I said, I had fun. And the pro shot movies gives you chance to see the players like you never would else wise-- Bruce Hornsby can definitely play at lightning speeds. His fingers were flying over his keyboard. June 91 was in the middle of his tenure - I think he started in Fall 90 and lasted until March 92 -- but it's apparent in this video the band's sound was as crowed as the aisles in the stadium and the 2 keyboard experiment presented challenges to all concerned. The warmth that Brent brought to the mix was gone. Poor Vince was trying so hard but his plastic tone and Bob's guitar were in constant conflict. Felt sorry for the dude.

Anyway - go to the show. Even a bad night of Grateful Dead is better than...

 

oh and there were some fine shots of Jerry with a samurai proto hair bun thing going on -- I think he was contemplating a future trip to Japan round this time

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I smoked a joint before going in, had a Black Butte Porter, Peanut M&Ms, and popcorn.  Fine way to spend a couple of hours.  

When Bruce joined the band and they rehearsed The Weight how did that go ?

A verse for Bob and one for Jerry

Phil you never sing but take a verse

Bruce you take a verse

and that's everyone

 

 

Bruce sang the same verse Brent took.

"by summer 91 the band was moving toward full autopilot."

The Walking Antique Era.

 

I also thought it funny that Vinnie was left out of Weight.

I disagree about the jams, Shakedown had Jerry playing around with Bruce and doing at least "something" a little new; The Playin' > Dark Star thing played off of the Dark star teases going throughout the show (maybe even a little overdone by Bruce), which had actually started way back on 6/17. It was an inside joke, and pretty interesting, actually. Jerry was way more involved here than he would be by the Fall tour.

Thought Drums was weak, I think it had to do with SBD weaknesses, perhaps Mickey was creating more sound in the venue that was not captured here.

Overall, really interesting to see the band "up close and personal" and see some of the interactions.

Hate that David Lemieux came on before the show and dropped most of the setlist spoilers. Not fair!

Not an "all time great" show, but very professionally executed.

A good time, for those few of us who can dig watching these guys way up close for 3 hours...

 

 

> watching these guys way up close

Way up close nails it. Like right up in Bobby's spit zone at times.

Driving home from this yesterday, I realized (or remembered) that this footage was projected on huge screens in the stadium, and because of this, the camerawork is almost all close-ups of the band members. There were a few shots of two or three of them at a time, but I don't think there was a single shot of the entire stage, and very little footage of the audience. So visually, this was more like a SBD than an AUD.

And the graphic embellishments to the camerawork? I really don't like the overuse of the word "cringe" these days, but I'll use it here because it fits. State of the art for 1991, no doubt, but 32 years later, it just looked silly.

If I was composing a set list for a fantasy GD show, this one wouldn't resemble it very much, except for the Playin' > Terrapin > Drumz > Dark Star Jam> Playin' segment. That's my kind of meat and potatoes. That said, there were a number of interesting moments here, like the interplay between Jerry and Bruce late in Shakedown that Jackohearts mentioned, and I thought the end jam of Crazy Fingers jam was pretty sweet too. In fact, I took video of a few minutes of that jam that can be seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldead/comments/14igeax/meet_up_at_the_mo...

Overall, for me, this was a fun show to attend, and a fun one to revisit, but this was also about the time of my life where I was realizing that while there was still nothing like a GD show, the band and scene had changed in ways where it felt like we were all just going through the motions a lot of the time, and the real power and glory of it all was fading fast into memory.

If it's summer 1991, I prefer my Jerry in brown..

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Squaw Valley - August 91 Along with the Jerry Garcia Band, performers included Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Booker T. and the M.G.'s, Tower of Power, Jimmy Cliff, Rhythm Tribe, David Grisman and the Neville Brothers.

91 was a good year to be a Deadhead in the Bay area. 23 shows between 3 nearby venues: Oakland (11), Shoreline (6), Cal Expo (6) plus the Polo Fields.  And 5 Garcia and Grisman shows and 11 JGB shows at the Warfield. Throw in an Eel River. Somehow I kept my job that whole year. I think because I didn't have to be at work until 10. 

 

Interesting event in 91 -  Jerry reconnects with his first love very shortly after that Chicago show for an interview in a Buddist publication, which led to a breakup with Manasha and a relationship with Barbara which also ended badly the next year (reportedly over his hard drug use which had resumed). Soap opera Jerry.

Jerry Garcia Speaks with Barbara Meier

Barbara Meier and Jerry Garcia were friends in the early sixties when they were part of a community of poets, pacifists, and folksingers in Menlo Park, California. Jerry went on to become a founding member of the legendary band, The Grateful Dead, and Barbara became a member of the San Francisco Zen Center under Shunryu Suzuki Roshi. In 1974, she moved to Boulder, Colorado, to study Vajrayana Buddhism with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche and to be part of the Naropa Institute Creative Writing community. She is the author of a book of poetry, The Life You Ordered Has Arrived. After many years of being out of touch with each other, Barbara and Jerry had this conversation in June of 1991 when the Dead played in Denver.

https://tricycle.org/magazine/jerry-garcia-speaks-with-barbara-meier/

Great interview with Jerry, Alan. Thanks for posting that. (And now I might have to finally read Herman Hesse's The Glass Bead Game.)

really appreciate you posting that, i found this quote from jerry years back and loved it, but never knew exactly where it came from, and tbh wasnt even 100% sure it was a real jerry quote. great to have confirmation.

I thought, if I’m going to be onstage I’m not going to say anything to anybody or address the crowd, because it doesn’t matter what you say, sometimes just the sound of your voice might inadvertently set somebody off. The situation with psychedelics is so highly charged that you never know what’s leaking in. I don’t mind doing it in the music, because that’s where I divest myself of ego. It’s egoless, something I trust. If the band has something to protect, it’s the integrity of the experience, which remains shapeless and formless. As long as it stays that way, everything’s okay.