Despite some questionable personal experiences, I love Mickey as well. I just wish he would tell us the real reason why he stopped using drumsticks. Whether it's arthritis or something else physical I think we'd all understand, but this "I can get more dynamic sound from mallets & brushes" line is just annoying.
In the interests of accuracy, it's not a "fake" bass drum. It's a real drum, it just doesn't (or didn't for Fare Thee Well, I haven't seen more current photos) have a batter head on it.
Mickey Hart, Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, John Cipollina, David Crosby, Phil Lesh, Nicky Hopkins, Merl Saunders
Mickey Hart’s Barn Jam
Mickey Hart’s Barn - Novato, California
August 21st 1971
Mickey Interview - April 30, 2009 The experimental drummer on reuniting the Grateful Dead, remembering Jerry Garcia, and hangin' with President Obama.
What was it about the Obama campaign that got you guys really excited?
It was a desperate time. We had eight years of a former administration that almost took this country’s heart out. We figured that even though we were never into politics, this would be a good time to get involved. The country was at stake, our kids and our grandchildren. The future was crumbling. It was a larger issue than our individual differences. We all agreed that needed a change and we believed in this man. He said the right things and we knew he could be a great statesman. Phil called me up, “You wanna play?” “Sure,” I said. So we played a benefit at Penn State University, in a swing state, and it went well. We enjoyed ourselves. We were all in a room at one time — and that hadn’t happened for years.
You performed at one of the inaugural balls. What was that like?
The inaugural ball was a drag. There was too much security, although it was necessary. We only played a little. It wasn’t a musical experience; we did it for other reasons. We were honoring the event, the moment in time. Meeting the president and the first lady was really a wonderful experience. He’s a real human being. You know, you’re walking down the hallway in the White House and you don’t know where you’re going, then and all of a sudden a door opens, and Obama’s like, “Hey, come on in Mickey, this is a good place to talk.” Amazing.
She's probably high on statins, Bucky. That's a drug old people take because the side effects are amazing -- you ever actually listen to the small print in all those pharmaceutical commercials? Shit, you can hallucinate, get light headed, hear voices, pass out...all sorts of shit.
I mean, are you really going to call up your doctor and ask for a med because you saw it on tv? I'm thinking keeping up with meds is the dr's job -- he went to med school, not me..He saves lives for a living, not me. I'm sitting on the couch watching tv.
It's a pill that they make you take EVERY day! Can you say ding ding ding?
Then you gotta go into the drugstore head hanging down and whisper to the clerk.."Can I have one of those plastic boxes with SMTWTFS on it?" So you can keep track of the days. It's embarrassing...almost shameful. (Like it used to be buying condoms when they were still called "rubbers".) But there is no way to remember without the box.... memory-wipe is definitely a side effect.
Worse yet, they forbid you to eat cheese. No wonder Nancy always has that taut, maniacal expression.
Funny, I saw this same pic on Fox News with the caption:
"Library of Congress Music Archive Employees (a worthless position that should be eliminated) Kill Time During Shutdown Playing with Life-size Puppet and Ventriloquist Dummy"
Having played in a band with two drummers, it was common not to mic one of the kick drums because 2 kicks sounded bad (obviously not the same as one drummer playing two kick drums)
Ever since Mickey got electrocuted by performing cunnilingus on the one instrument they still let him play,..
...he has exhibited random acts of violent outrage, "I'm Mickey Fuckin Hart and if you won't let me play my kickdrum anymore, then I'll kick the shit outta this pile of stinkin scrap metal instead!"
Remember this 2012 incident:
Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart accused of beating up tour bus owner just days after allegedly assaulting a fan
He is already being hunted by police for allegedly assaulting a fan at a concert.
And now, former Grateful dead drummer Mickey Hart is being accused of beating up the owner of his band's tour bus.
A warrant was issued last week after the musician was accused of assaulting a spectator at a Mickey Hart Band show on September 8 at Terrapin Hill Farm in Harrodsburg, Kentucky.
And today TMZ reported that another man has told police in Mercer, Kentucky that he too was attacked by Hart.
The accuser filed a report claiming the incident took place after Hart's manager called him over to the bus on September 7 because Mickey wanted to talk with him.
On entering the bus, he claims Mickey directed him to the back section, shut the door behind him and then proceeded to beat him up.
He said that the aging rocker 'threw me down, started [to] cuss [at] me, hitting me, pushing me around then told me to get off my bus.'
I recall the warrant for beating up the bus driver, but didn't know he beat up a fan at his show the day before. I was disappointed that the new post-Garcia GD book didn't cover the bus driver beat down. I was looking forward to hearing what became of all that. The book did mention an earlier incident when Bob and Mickey got into a brawl on a bus. Hadn't heard that story before.
Someone told me that they were working the back stage area at Hornings Hideout at the 2010 NWSS when Mickey and Billy's band played there. He said there was a little pile of trash outside Mickey's trailer and the dude threw a royal fit, acting like it was a four alarm fire.
>>>>>Also didn't mickey call himself BD Shot on the first New Riders LP? The dude is not a fan of kick drums
It's actually the acronym of Bass Drum Snare High-hat Overhead Tom-tom created as an alias by Mickey for Robert Hunter's Tiger Rose album. Includes bass drum, so it wasn't that Hart had something against the kick drum; he just had issues with being "the" drummer.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 04:36 pm
We're all doomed.
We're all doomed.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 04:51 pm
I love Mickey
I love Mickey
Haters crack me up
Blah blah something about Rap blah blah that they will never forget
Whatever, Mickey rocks
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:15 pm
Mickey was also a special
Mickey was also a special guest at the White House today. I think he's playin both sides.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:29 pm
Despite some questionable
Despite some questionable personal experiences, I love Mickey as well. I just wish he would tell us the real reason why he stopped using drumsticks. Whether it's arthritis or something else physical I think we'd all understand, but this "I can get more dynamic sound from mallets & brushes" line is just annoying.
Either way, we're all doomed.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:36 pm
Mickey's dad would get along
Were he still alive, Mickey's dad would get along great with the Donald.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:37 pm
Mickey's dad was doomed.
Mickey's dad was doomed.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:40 pm
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 05:44 pm
Looks like he’s kicking it
Looks like he’s kicking it with Tony Bennet and the guy from the project runway show. Interesting company. Tony’s date looks cute.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 06:17 pm
Not to mention the fake bass
Not to mention the fake bass drum...
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 06:26 pm
I don't mind the esthetic
I don't mind the empty esthetic aspect of the bass drum prop.
It makes it look more like how it should, and sometimes it's better to look good than to sound good.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 06:41 pm
yeah the fake kick/bass drum
yeah the fake kick/bass drum thing reminds me of bands that would have empty stacks of Marshall amps on stage or the guys who would stuff their pants
part of the rock and roll theater
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 06:48 pm
In the interests of accuracy,
In the interests of accuracy, it's not a "fake" bass drum. It's a real drum, it just doesn't (or didn't for Fare Thee Well, I haven't seen more current photos) have a batter head on it.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 07:20 pm
Ok Lance, point taken.
Ok Lance, point taken.
This is why you are Zoner Of The Year....and I'm not.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 07:27 pm
he should just get the stand
he should just get the stand up set-up, like Mark Quinones from the Allmans and be the percussionist that he is
maybe give him a xylophone that he never plays instead
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 07:31 pm
maybe he can shake something.
maybe he can shake something.
a pill bottle, maybe?
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 08:30 pm
Mickey Hart, Jerry Garcia,
Mickey Hart, Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, John Cipollina, David Crosby, Phil Lesh, Nicky Hopkins, Merl Saunders
Mickey Hart’s Barn Jam
Mickey Hart’s Barn - Novato, California
August 21st 1971
SBD from John Cipollina’s reels.
Download FLAC MP3
https://themidnightcafe.org/category/music/bootleg-bonanza/phil-lesh-fri...
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 08:45 pm
What was it about the Obama
Mickey Interview - April 30, 2009
The experimental drummer on reuniting the Grateful Dead, remembering Jerry Garcia, and hangin' with President Obama.
What was it about the Obama campaign that got you guys really excited?
It was a desperate time. We had eight years of a former administration that almost took this country’s heart out. We figured that even though we were never into politics, this would be a good time to get involved. The country was at stake, our kids and our grandchildren. The future was crumbling. It was a larger issue than our individual differences. We all agreed that needed a change and we believed in this man. He said the right things and we knew he could be a great statesman. Phil called me up, “You wanna play?” “Sure,” I said. So we played a benefit at Penn State University, in a swing state, and it went well. We enjoyed ourselves. We were all in a room at one time — and that hadn’t happened for years.
You performed at one of the inaugural balls. What was that like?
The inaugural ball was a drag. There was too much security, although it was necessary. We only played a little. It wasn’t a musical experience; we did it for other reasons. We were honoring the event, the moment in time. Meeting the president and the first lady was really a wonderful experience. He’s a real human being. You know, you’re walking down the hallway in the White House and you don’t know where you’re going, then and all of a sudden a door opens, and Obama’s like, “Hey, come on in Mickey, this is a good place to talk.” Amazing.
https://www.spin.com/2009/04/qa-deads-mickey-hart/
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:05 pm
Nice, Alan R!
Nice, Alan R!
I saw the Penn State show on 10/13/08.
The Dead played an extended set and ABB opened.
Most definitely worth the trip!

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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:17 pm
Tonight at the after-party
Tonight at the after-party Pelosi sat in during Not Fade Away
Encore: US Blues > Donny B Goode
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:30 pm
Brilliant!
Brilliant!
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:31 pm
That’s a great pic Alan,
That’s a great pic Alan, Nancy looks so happy
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:42 pm
Mickey called ME a jerk..?
Mickey called ME a jerk..?
The Zone's esteemed Mr Liver Head, 2019
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 10:56 pm
<<<<<Nancy looks so happy>>>>
<<<<<Nancy looks so happy>>>>
She's probably high on statins, Bucky. That's a drug old people take because the side effects are amazing -- you ever actually listen to the small print in all those pharmaceutical commercials? Shit, you can hallucinate, get light headed, hear voices, pass out...all sorts of shit.
I mean, are you really going to call up your doctor and ask for a med because you saw it on tv? I'm thinking keeping up with meds is the dr's job -- he went to med school, not me..He saves lives for a living, not me. I'm sitting on the couch watching tv.
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 11:03 pm
oh no shit? statins? It’s a
oh no shit? statins? It’s a pill?
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on Thursday, January 3, 2019 – 11:49 pm
It's a pill that they make
It's a pill that they make you take EVERY day! Can you say ding ding ding?
Then you gotta go into the drugstore head hanging down and whisper to the clerk.."Can I have one of those plastic boxes with SMTWTFS on it?" So you can keep track of the days. It's embarrassing...almost shameful. (Like it used to be buying condoms when they were still called "rubbers".) But there is no way to remember without the box.... memory-wipe is definitely a side effect.
Worse yet, they forbid you to eat cheese. No wonder Nancy always has that taut, maniacal expression.
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 02:03 am
Questionable personal
Questionable personal experiences
ditto
douche
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 05:45 am
Mickey Mallets!
Mickey Mallets!
Pelosi Pallets!
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 08:06 am
<<Mickey Mallets! Pelosi
<<Mickey Mallets! Pelosi Pallets!>>
No Lance, it's obviously "Mickey Mallets! Pelosi Ballots! "
Geez... maybe stick with show reviews?
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 09:51 am
Also, per the other thread,
Also, per the other thread, maybe check out Chapter 10 - "Rhyme Without Reason: Teaching White Boys How to Rap"
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 10:14 am
Funny, I saw this same pic on
Funny, I saw this same pic on Fox News with the caption:
"Library of Congress Music Archive Employees (a worthless position that should be eliminated) Kill Time During Shutdown Playing with Life-size Puppet and Ventriloquist Dummy"
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 10:53 am
Having played in a band with
Having played in a band with two drummers, it was common not to mic one of the kick drums because 2 kicks sounded bad (obviously not the same as one drummer playing two kick drums)
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 10:59 am
Also didn't mickey call
Also didn't mickey call himself BD Shot on the first New Riders LP? The dude is not a fan of kick drums
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 12:04 pm
Ever since Mickey got
Ever since Mickey got electrocuted by performing cunnilingus on the one instrument they still let him play,..
...he has exhibited random acts of violent outrage, "I'm Mickey Fuckin Hart and if you won't let me play my kickdrum anymore, then I'll kick the shit outta this pile of stinkin scrap metal instead!"
Remember this 2012 incident:
Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart accused of beating up tour bus owner just days after allegedly assaulting a fan
He is already being hunted by police for allegedly assaulting a fan at a concert.
And now, former Grateful dead drummer Mickey Hart is being accused of beating up the owner of his band's tour bus.
A warrant was issued last week after the musician was accused of assaulting a spectator at a Mickey Hart Band show on September 8 at Terrapin Hill Farm in Harrodsburg, Kentucky.
And today TMZ reported that another man has told police in Mercer, Kentucky that he too was attacked by Hart.
The accuser filed a report claiming the incident took place after Hart's manager called him over to the bus on September 7 because Mickey wanted to talk with him.
On entering the bus, he claims Mickey directed him to the back section, shut the door behind him and then proceeded to beat him up.
He said that the aging rocker 'threw me down, started [to] cuss [at] me, hitting me, pushing me around then told me to get off my bus.'
https://www.kentucky.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article4437710...
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on Friday, January 4, 2019 – 12:10 pm
^^^^
^^^^
I recall the warrant for beating up the bus driver, but didn't know he beat up a fan at his show the day before. I was disappointed that the new post-Garcia GD book didn't cover the bus driver beat down. I was looking forward to hearing what became of all that. The book did mention an earlier incident when Bob and Mickey got into a brawl on a bus. Hadn't heard that story before.
Someone told me that they were working the back stage area at Hornings Hideout at the 2010 NWSS when Mickey and Billy's band played there. He said there was a little pile of trash outside Mickey's trailer and the dude threw a royal fit, acting like it was a four alarm fire.
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on Saturday, January 5, 2019 – 09:03 am
>>>>>Also didn't mickey call
>>>>>Also didn't mickey call himself BD Shot on the first New Riders LP? The dude is not a fan of kick drums
It's actually the acronym of Bass Drum Snare High-hat Overhead Tom-tom created as an alias by Mickey for Robert Hunter's Tiger Rose album. Includes bass drum, so it wasn't that Hart had something against the kick drum; he just had issues with being "the" drummer.
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on Saturday, January 5, 2019 – 11:58 am
"Original" Fire on the
"Original" Fire on the Mountain: - Melton, Garcia, Hart, Freiberg
Mickey Hart's Barn Marin County 1972.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DhdrNo8NNs
plus: Ghost Riders In The Sky 3. It Makes Me Feel Mad #1 4. You Know I Will 5. Is Anyone There 6. Night Of The Vampire 7. It Makes Me Feel Mad #2