Missing Titanic Tourists

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Didn't even know it was a thing.  $250,000 a pop.   And you thought Dead & Co was expensive.

Hope they make it back alive, but at those depths, not holding my breath.

Yes, terrible. Regular SCUBA is enough for me and I never even entertained NITROX either. Hoping for the best but not looking good at all.

hope they went quick!

> $250,000 a pop

Seems like an appropriate way to go for anyone that obsessed with the Titanic.

i would not be sad to see the british billionaire go down with the capsule

also: is she sunk in the bermuda triangle?!

^^ 900 Nautical miles east of Cape Cod @ 13.5K feet deep

Is anyone going to miss the billionaire?

Unfortunately was bound to happen, and it did.

Not a fan of Titanic tourism.

 

Space tourism will be next.

^^^not holding my breath

 

Very well played!

I'm working on the screenplay now.   Horror genre. Titanic ghosts took over the sub. 

Looks like they didn't seek certifications / classing for the Titan submersible. They said that the design and safety regulations were slow & constrained innovation.

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1671087361755697154?cxt=HHwWhMC-ocH...

play stupid games

win stupid prizes 

I'm content that i was only able to afford a subscription to National Geographic when the first pictures of the freshly discovereod Titanic appeared. 

A naval officer on npr this morning stated the pressure at those depths is 400 times that at the surface.

Yep. Styrofoam cups (due to the many tiny air pockets contained therein) collapse into small  indistinguishable masses at depths of less than 100 feet, so........

"3 scenarios probably cover what happened to the Titanic submersible, experts say. Only 1 has much chance of survival"

https://news.yahoo.com/3-scenarios-probably-cover-happened-152707232.html

Now now, billionaires are people, too.  Looks like he's quite the adventurer. Egotistical? Probably. Definitely not sitting around counting his money. Even rich fuckers have families and loved ones. 

 

The Cambridge-educated jet pilot and aircraft broker holds 16 air speed records, including the Guinness world record for the fastest circumnavigation of the Earth via the North and South Poles by an aircraft.

Last year, the 58-year-old became the first Briton to travel on Blue Origin’s fifth human spaceflight mission, making him one of a handful of tourists to have crossed the Karman line marking the beginning of space.

In 2016, he joined Buzz Aldrin, the Apollo astronaut, on an expedition to Antarctica in which Mr Aldrin became the oldest person to reach the South Pole at the age of 86.

Four years later, Mr Harding returned with his son Giles, who at the age of 12 became the youngest person to reach the South Pole.

In 2021, Mr Harding joined Victor Vescovo, the US explorer, on a 12-hour dive to Challenger Deep, the deepest known point of the seabed some 36,000ft beneath the surface. He spent a record four hours and 15 minutes below the surface, travelling for 2.8 miles along the ocean bed.

Mr Vevesco also travelled with Mr Harding on the Blue Origin flight, making them the first crew to visit both Challenger Deep and space.

During Mr Harding’s record-breaking circumnavigation of the globe, the air temperature plunged to -83C, just three degrees above the aircraft’s tolerance limit, forcing the crew to drop 5,000ft to avoid catastrophic cold damage.

But he successfully completed the flight with Colonel Terry Virts, a former commander of the International Space Station, in 46 hours, 39 minutes and 38 seconds, beating the previous record of 54 hours, seven minutes and 12 seconds.

“I’m ecstatic,” he said at the time. “We pushed the boundaries of aeronautics and the aircraft handled it flawlessly.”

Mr Harding, who lives in Dubai with wife Linda, and sons Rory, 18, and Giles, now 15, has said his love for space and aviation began while watching the Apollo moon landing aged five.

No one has ever been rescued from anything approaching that depth.

I highly doubt even the billionaires billions can save them now.

Harding, the British billionaire, took the then 87 year old Buzz Aldrin to the South Pole two years ago, and his 12 year old grandson there last year, making them, respectively, the oldest and youngest people to have been there.  I'm guessing those two, as well as his family, and doubtlessly others who's lives were positively impacted by his will miss him.

 >>>>>Styrofoam cups......collapse into small  indistinguishable masses at depths of less than 100 feet,

Dunno about indistinguishable.

 

During my time as an oceanography technician, we used to decorate styrofoam cups with colored markers and send them down hundreds or thousands of feet with the water sampling rig. What we got back were perfect miniature cups, with all decorations intact. I still have a few somewhere.

 

A human body in a tin can would not fare so well.

A good friend was a commercial diver worked on the rigs in the gulf. He told me about the guys that would go super deep and stay down for extended periods of time in dorms they put down there and kept at the same pressure as the depth they were working in so they could go in an out and work. Took a really long time to get them down there and back up again so they wanted to maximize their time at depth. Anyway no open flames allowed in the dorms because of the air mixture they were breathing so they would bring down hash and smoke it with soldering irons. All commercial divers are crazy. 

>Dunno about indistinguishable.

That's awesome that you had that experience as an oceanography technician! With all due respect, you were looking at them before and after, not at depth(s). I know they sorta bounce back, albeit, smaller, once re-surfaced.

Going from exploring wreckage to becoming the wreckage

Just saw this today.  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/daredevil-explorer-hamish-harding-dove-ma...

 

One of the five people in a missing submersible craft that was exploring the Titanic wreckage is a record-setting daredevil who has flown to space and traversed the planet’s deepest underwater trenches, and who has acknowledged that being rescued is not always a possibility.

“If something goes wrong, you are not coming back,” British explorer and businessman Hamish Harding told the Indian newsmagazine The Week in 2021 after completing a record-setting dive in the Mariana Trench, the world’s deepest part of the ocean.

That four-hour dive explored the bottom of Challenger Deep, which has a depth of 35,860 feet. For comparison, the Titanic is nearly 13,000 feet below sea level.

Harding said he was too busy to be scared during his dive, though he acknowledged its great risks, including that no other submersible “is capable of going down there to rescue you.”

“It will take three years to build another one,” he said of the specialized vessel that’s designed to withstand water pressure that’s roughly a thousand times the standard atmospheric pressure at sea level. He likened this force to 8,000 double-decker buses.

It's pretty hard to believe that the folks who built this death trap didn't have some sort of emergency beacon on it. Then again, at those depths there's no way to perform a rescue. But at least it would solve the mystery as to it's location.

One analyst on the news thought it likely that there was some sort of explosion, because otherwise the vessel would just rise to the surface on it's own in an emergency.

Then again, if it did and rescuers can't locate it, they all die from lack of oxygen beacuse the airtight vessel can only be opened from the exterior. Seems like a major design flaw. 

 

>The submersible had seven backup systems to return to the surface, including sandbags and lead pipes that drop off and an inflatable balloon. One system is designed to work even if everyone aboard is unconscious, Pogue said.

 

 

 

>some sort of explosion

I would venture to say that would much more likely be some sort of catastrophic IMPLOSION

 I'm rusty on my physics. care to explain why implosion would be more likely than explosion?  

 

 

and  either would have catastrophic results 

Atmospheric pressure inside.

400 times that outside.

 

It wants to squish inwards if given the chance.

Noises heard, every half-hour. They're there, but can the rescue be successful? Not many vessels are built for the job. Fingers crossed. 

>It wants to squish inwards if given the chance.
 

Makes sense with all that pressure at that depth.

 


 

 

I read the one window on the sub was certified to 1,300 meters and the Titanic is at 4,000 meters. Wonder what other things they pushed beyond their limits. 

They will be taking craft down in a hundred years to visit this submersible

But I hope all turns out good

Unsinkable, you say?

heard that one before 

More and more articles coming out that this company took quite a few safety shortcuts while developing this submersible.  Oh the irony of the company's owner being on this dive. Obviously this company is toast. I wonder at what price you could buy one of their submersibles for.  They will probably get used for shallow ocean exploration, but doubt one of their submersibles ever goes to the deep ocean again. 

 and doubtlessly others who's lives were positively impacted by his will miss him.<<<

Prescient Freudian Typo?

They will bump the price up to $300,000 and include a side trip to the sunken sub.

This guy was like I’m gonna charge 250k per head to explore the famous boat that sank because of hubris. Then i’m going to go on record and say safety is for losers. And for good measure I’m going to call my company oceangate, nominally predestining it for historical scandal

https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1671269096514781184?s=20

.....and then I'm going down with the ship...

I guess those folks won't be using the $1,200 Dead & Co. tix they bought.

When those passengers found out how shitty the safety systems were after the power died, they probably strangled the the CEO guy. To not have a fail safe GPS beacon or possibly ten of the f'ing things that would automatically dispense to the surface and start binging is insane.  Even if the haul breached and the thing imploded, the GPS beacons should have automatically went to the surface and started pinging.  How do you not have like ten backup communication systems? 

<<The video game controller OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush said runs their submersible>>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-missing-submersible-was-run-by-a-v...

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These guys are billionaires, right?   

Oddly enough other submarines have started using the game controllers as well, for certain functions. 

From a sub engineer but read to the end.

What happened when a bunch of narcissist billionaires realized there was enough air for 5 people for 4 days or one person for 20 days.

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Well they found the debris field looks like they at least went fast.

https://news.sky.com/story/debris-field-discovered-within-search-area-ne...

Leaving a good conspiracy mystery as to who is responsible for the banging that was heard. Ghosts of the titanic?

No spot taken for Debris Field for a band name.

It is a sad thing. Let's also not forget the hundreds who drowned off the coast of Greece last week when the smugglers ship they were in capsized and sank.

RIP all those lost at sea.

^^^^Indeed.

Coast Guard has confirmed a "catastrophic implosion" occurred and they found the tail cone of the Titan sub approximately 1,600 feet from the bow of the Titanic on the seafloor.      

>RIP to ALL those lost at sea

^^ THIS.

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>Leaving a good conspiracy mystery as to who is responsible for the banging that was heard.

 

The Orcas of course!

 

 

Reports that someone (maybe his sister) was saying the 19 year-old did not want to go, but did it because it was Father's Day and his dad was obsessed with the Titanic. Sad. 

What a fuckin waste.

 

And to think of all the money wasted on this venture - including the search and recovery -  that could have gone to better causes. 

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Not really, the CEO said himself that he wasn't concerned about safety 

2023 and money still doesn't buy common sense or patience.  Im not sad for the adults.  They knew and their lifelong inflated egos took them.  The young man, however.....

the fact that the entire internet is collectively, ruthlessly shitting on these guys for dying just because they are billionaires gives me new hope for humanity. really brings a tear to the eye, ill tell ya

Hopefully for their sake that thing imploded shortly after going into the water.

Imagine:

- Losing power/control and sinking at a vertical angle instead of horizontal.

- Being stuck in pitch black and sandwiched between 4 other people.

- Even if you could somehow stand up, you're all just facing each other in darkness for 5 days in a tiny tube scrunched together so tight it's probably hard to breathe.

Fuck that. Makes me queasy just thinking about it. I'd much rather die a painful death on the first day than being stuck down there for almost a week.

The ocean temperature is near freezing at that depth 

>>>the entire internet is collectively, ruthlessly shitting on these guys for dying just because they are billionaires<<<

There is a lesson there, if we're willing to find it.

$250K and a waiver.  Not every Darwin Award Nominee buys their way into contention.  For those that do, it's usually more like the price of a new ride or gun.  Or a batch of fireworks.

Sdeep price to pay.

>>>>> I'd much rather die a painful death on the first day 

 

Most likely death was instantaneous..

Sad to see the son didn't want to go and was scared of the trip but did it for his dad as a Father's Day gift. 

They're now reporting the implosion occurred on Sunday.. Father's Day

>>> Most likely death was instantaneous.

Anderson Cooper interviewed some woman who said the force of the implosion was about 1500 mph, suggesting it was painless and instantaneous. They didn't feel anything and had no clue of their impending death as it happened. She indicated there are no remains.  

If ya gotta go, quick and painless with no time for fear might sound appealing to some. 

I read that the implosion is so fast that you are dead before your nervous system can process it. Dead before you know it .

Human salsa. Eew.

Died Instantly

Implosion 2 Nanoseconds

Signal to Brain takes 4 Nanoseconds

 

they didn't feel a thing

The Orcas are asking if they can get a side of human guacamole with that