Muslim ban

How hard can it be for trump to have a heart attack? Dude is 70, and horribly over weight.

The article is misleading and your logic is insane.  ISIS has declared war on the United States They stated in publications and as a mater of policy that they will enter the US posing as refuges.

So you say,.  Hey lets just ignore that because the 911 terrorist were from somewhere else.  That is dumb.  Just plain dumb.   

How can you be that stupid, seriously. You want to invite these people in and put me and my family in danger.  go F- yourself. Why don't you let them come stay in your home?

Do you see what is happening to France and Germany?  Do you know what the Islamic view on womens rights is?   Wow. Talk about a tin foil hat.  My god. 

You know what's "dumb"? Donald trump.

he's a fucking retard actually.

The country is now being run by a 12 year old with narcissistic personality disorder, who won't listen to facts or reason.

we, collectively as a country, are headed for some dark times.

Jed's afraid of orphans and widows.

Jed, banning people coming into America is unconstitutional. What don't you get about that?

Blame ISIS then for the ban; well said Jed

Banning people from coming into America is unconstitutional?  Where does it say that, Old R?   I will change my opinion if proven wrong. 

It doesn't say that,  though.  Does it? Are you saying a country does not have a right to control its borders?   What other country does not control their borders?

What you are saying; "banning people coming into America is unconstitutional" is ridiculous.  Have you thought this through?  Why are you so worked up over something you obviously know next to nothing about?

Freedom of religion. Ring a bell?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-terror-attacks-muslim-ban-7-count...

There Have Been No Fatal Terror Attacks In The U.S. By Immigrants From The 7 Banned Muslim Countries

Some of my grandparents were banned from the US as refugees from Germany.  They were sent back - and spent a year + in a concentration camp as a result.

Bigots of the trump ilk claimed there was no way to vet them since the US was at war with the Germans and they were Jews (GASP!) from Germany....

fuck trump and anyone who supports this bigoted policy.  You are the problem and do not deserve the freedoms you live under if you want to deny them to the people fleeing the terrorists!

OH yeah, Liberals can't deal with facts. Guess you better go to your safe-space and color.

there is a separation of church and state.  Yeah it rings a bell and has nothing to do with immigration. You have never read the constitution? Was your Poly-Sci class after lunch? Where does this sense of entitlement come from.  The United States is a sovereign nation.

I really don't get what you are saying.  You should have no choice as to who enters your home, then.  How is it that you think that we have some obligation to allow anyone to immigrate here who wants too?  Why should we?  I dont know about you but if I was looking for a roommate I would be pretty darn picky and I certainly would not invite someone I don't know, am unable to look into, who is also from a group that has been infiltrated by terrorist.  Much less someone who is going to eat my food and not pay the rent.  Why is this happening? How did you get like that? 

Also, think. Why aren't we working toward creating stability in the region so these people can rebuild their own country?  

Playing right into the hands of the terrorists. 

This is exactly what they wanted. 

15  9-11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, why aren't they on the list?

"why aren't they on the list?"  Because Obama bowed.

Also because irrational folks think somehow buying oil from a oppressive regime and shipping it in boats is somehow better for the environment than tapping into more local sources.

It isnt your fault that you have been brainwashed.  Anytime you are highly emotional about something that you can't answer any questions about, you should probably check yourself.

Your logic is Obama was a traitor and in bed with the Saudis. There are also questions about 911

therefore.

The empirically obvious problems with terrorist in the syrian miggrant population does not exist

because, I feel like it shouldn't

If you remember 8th grade science and the scientific method. You can see that is not a cause and effect relationship.

And the truth is what is real. It is not what you feel like it should be.

You are kind of way out there, you know. Maybe a trip to the library and a revisit with Socrates?

Learn how to think again,  My uncle was in a car accident, he learned how to walk again. Maybe, you can learn how to think again. I believe in you.

As bad as the cheezit in chief is, I am more scared of Pence. We need to get rid of him and paul ryan before we get rid of trump.

Jed, where do you live?  I need to understand what happened to you. Are you maybe suffering from severe brain injury?

Lol, Jed. Why didn't you just tell me you thought fracking was environmentally sound? Then I would have known better than to bother engaging you.

Won't bother again!

Pretty slick how none of these evil countries he does business with are on the list. Yeah it's Obama's fault. He's shooting from the hip. He could have put down any country he wanted to. 

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/countries-where-trump-does-busin...

Trump needs to get our enemies from WW2, Italy, on that list of banned countries. Pronto. 

jed is big on the alternate facts. 

If you remember 8th grade science and the scientific method. You can see that is not a cause and effect relationship.<<

Says the guy with no grasp on third-grade English.

 "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" 

Only if they are white. 

What if the Iraqi government bans US citizens?

https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/825456106898128897

DONALD TRUMP = PARANOID SHITBAG.

Keep Eating Donny That's ALL You Have Left

 "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" 

  - This is again a false argument.  the European immigrants that came here in the early1900's received no social welfare at all.  So, I do not see how that related to what is happening now.

There is also nothing in that quote that says "Give me your radicalized extremist who wish to kill us" 

So you see, it is a stupid angle also

"Says the guy with no grasp on third-grade English."      Do you mean "of"  ?    I guess we both think too fast for our hands.    Unlike me, however, you have nothing but insults. You have no valid points.   You certainly don;t have a valid argument.  I will be the first to admit I make grammatical errors.  So?  F-off.   What does that have to do with anything?  You  are proving my point.   You  have nothing to expect name calling. I expect you have no clue about anything you are talking about at all. .   You only have this identity you are trying to maintain. 

"DONALD TRUMP = PARANOID SHITBAG."   - same goes for the mush brain who wrote this.     It must be horrible to go through life being so ignorant.  Anyone with an agenda can trick you believing anything they want you too.  You are like the "Useful idiots" that the Bolsheviks were so fond of. 

Like what Nacy?   I am actually right and you are the one fond of the alterative facts .   This is quiet evident because you can not present an actual counter argument to anything I am saying.

It is okay. crayons are cheap.

"Says the guy with no grasp on third-grade English."      Do you mean "of"  ?    I guess we both think too fast for our hands.    Unlike me, however, you have nothing but insults. You have no valid points.   You certainly don;t have a valid argument.  I will be the first to admit I make grammatical errors.  So?  F-off.   What does that have to do with anything?  You  are proving my point.   You  have nothing to expect name calling. I expect you have no clue about anything you are talking about at all. .   You only have this identity you are trying to maintain. <<

LOL

Care to elaborate Thumb?  Was it really out loud?  I guess I better turn on spell check and proof read everything before I send it. I forgot about the Phil-Zone grammar nazi's.  Using too instead of to because I am typing fast invalidates the point I am trying to make. Everyone knows that.

Oh wait, it doesn't.

nice to see open support for assassination of a sitting american president. fucking pathetic.

Not fun anymore.  I like to be able to type fast and not worry about it as long as it is understandable. These folks pointing out spelling and grammar and kind of a drag. I suppose I could type sloooowwwwwwww.  real slow.  lame. I didn't realize this was a formal occasion.  seriously? 

It's all you got.  I have left you speechless.   You have only the ability to point out my extensive grammatical errors. I'll kick your ass in math and logic.  I don't type for a living.

So Nancy. Do you really know that much about Fascist?  What policy?  We are all ears.   How about something specific?

maybe if the dems or independents had run a viable fucking candidate we wouldn't be in this situation. at this point no way in hell would i be calling for the death or assassination of a president. if trump dies, you get pence.

oh nanzi knows everything about any candidate that's not hers. willfully blind.

 > - This is again a false argument.  the European immigrants that came here in the early1900's received no social welfare at all.  So, I do not see how that related to what is happening now.

There is also nothing in that quote that says "Give me your radicalized extremist who wish to kill us" 

So you see, it is a stupid angle also<

American Muslims have a substantial presence in the health care industry. The Islamic Medical Association of North America, one of many such organizations,estimates that there are more than 20,000 Muslim physicians in the United States. Similarly, an analysis of statistics provided by the American Medical Association indicatesthat 10% of all American physicians are Muslims. While no Islamic hospitals exist in the United States, per se, several Muslim-based health clinics do. And let’s not forget that the hospital itself is not an American invention — it’s an Egyptian one. For that matter, the father of modern surgery wasn’t an American Protestant pioneer, either, but a 10th-Century Muslim physician from Spain, Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi.

■ Criticism over the absence of Muslim orchestras in the United States rings hollow, as well. Few orchestras are comprised exclusively of members from one particular faith, and many are organized along ethnic or other lines. The National Arab and New York Arabic Orchestras are two examples of groups whose members include numerous Muslims. Similarly, marching bands are obviously affiliated with high schools or universities, not mosques or churches, and surely Muslim students make up these musical groups, which, as it turns out, trace their roots back to the military bands of the Muslim Ottoman empire. The violin, too, finds its origins within the 10th-Century bowing instruments of Islamic civilization.

■ Muslim charity groups in the United States are too numerous to catalog, though the Bay Area Islamic Networks Group, the UMMA Clinic in Los Angeles, the Chicago-based Inner-City Muslim Action Network and Dearborn’s ACCESS are examples of groups that provide crucial services and empower the underprivileged. In 2013, the Muslim charity Helping Hand for Relief and Development (HHRD) was rated among the top 10 charities in the United States.

■ Agema is correct, however, to point out that there are no Muslim signatures on the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights. That’s because the first major wave of Muslim immigration to the U.S. occurred in the mid-to-late 19th Century — nearly 100 years after those documents were written. But the beauty of America is that the rights enshrined in our founding documents protect everyone, regardless of their time of arrival or their religious identity.

■ It’s also the case that Muslim Americans designed the Sears (now Willis) and Hancock towers in Chicago, developed the chemotherapy mechanism that treats brain tumors and revolutionized this country’s original art form: jazz. They also contribute through their service as educators, lawmakers and soldiers and are on the front lines of campaigns to end some of today’s most egregious civil rights abuses

http://www.chicagonow.com/midwestern-muslim/2014/01/muslims-dont-contrib...

Not a stupid angle, you are just ignorant.

All I am hearing is someone wanting to control our borders like every single other country does.  How is that fascist?   

I don't understand. We have borders for a reason.  What is it you are after a world without borders where we are all reduce our quality of life to the lowest common denominator?  Is that really what you want for your children?  You do not have the moral high ground. You want to allow people into this country that have been taught to hate us since childhood. And they do hate us. They will not assimilate into and respect our culture. They want to destroy western civilization; "Democracy go to hell!" . Not all of them. But enough to say "fuck that shit"   What have you been told that would make you think like that? I really don't get it.  I wish I did. It is like you don't want to know, almost. Shit stinks, the sky is blue, radical islam wants to destroy western civilization.  Shiria, law is not a good thing for women either. We don't need more of that. It is time to be an adult. Some don't appreciate what they have until it is gone.

There are lots of people that are Muslim. We are not talking about all Muslims.  So, what is your point?  We are talking about people from certain regions. Wait. You know there is more than one type of Muslim right? The Shia and the Sunni  and among those are different groups right?  So what you are saying is pretty much like saying I should have a terrorist Christian extremist whack for a room-mate because the pastor at the Church in my town is a cool dude.   Even though I know, I can see clearly that this guy is sketchy. I should ignore that. Because, if one Christian is a good guy I should let them all in my house?  

I'm out. .. later

There are many ways to accomplish safety, and to protect ourselves that do not include closing our borders more than they have been of late. We have not been threatened by Muslims more than any other group in our country. If some Muslims hate us, so do people from some other religious and political groups. You demean us by saying that our quality of life would be lessened by the presence of people from other countries and backgrounds. That's not true. We are enhanced by the talents, skills, drive, etc., of people from all over. It is ridiculous to think that by closing our borders to 1000's of good people we are better off? You are reducing all of those people to an ideology that does not ring true for them. Fucking ridiculous.

Keep going, Jed; It's hilarious to watch you project. 

Does your wife put a bib on you when you Zone? 

Jedhead, you keep showing your ignorance

The key findings of this brief include:

Syrian immigrants earn good wages, with high levels of educational attainment

The median annual wage for Syrian immigrants in the United States is $52,000. That is well above the $36,000 median wage for immigrants overall and higher even than the $45,000 median wage for U.S.-born workers.

Syrian immigrants are in general very well-educated, with Syrian immigrant men especially likely to have not only a college degree but also an advanced degree such as a master’s, doctorate, or professional degree. Twenty-seven percent of Syrian immigrant men hold an advanced degree, while for other groups—men and women, U.S.-born people and immigrants—the range is between 10 percent and 13 percent.

Syrian immigrants have among the highest rates of business ownership

Syrian immigrants have extremely high rates of business ownership. Immigrants are, in general, an entrepreneurial group: 4 percent of immigrants in the labor force are business owners, compared with 3 percent of U.S.-born people. But both groups are far outstripped by Syrian immigrants, among whom 11 percent are business owners—more than double the rate of immigrants overall and more than triple the rate of U.S. citizens by birth.

Syrian immigrants have thriving businesses. The median earnings of Syrian business owners are $72,000 per year. These businesses provide employment, create jobs, and help spur growth in the local economy.

The kinds of businesses that Syrian immigrants are most likely to own range from medical offices—the most prominent type of business and no doubt part of the reason for high earnings among Syrian business owners—to food services and automobile dealerships.

Syrians integrate into American society over time

Syrians have high levels of English-speaking ability. Fifty-seven percent of Syrian immigrants who have been in the United States for more than 10 years report that they speak English at least “very well”—a higher rate than for immigrants overall, for whom the rate is 52 percent.8

Homeownership rates among Syrian immigrants are similar to those of other immigrant groups, with the percentage almost doubling from 34 percent for those in the United States for 10 years or less to 67 percent for those here for more than 10 years. The home ownership rate for U.S. citizens by birth is 68 percent.

Syrian immigrants become naturalized U.S. citizens at high rates. Among those who have been here for more than 20 years, 91 percent have become U.S. citizens. This is significantly higher than the 71 percent rate for immigrants overall.

The 90,000 Syrian immigrants who were in the United States before the recent arrival of refugees have been thriving and are therefore well-positioned to help their compatriots when they arrive. Policymakers should take into account the fact that the United States already has a robust Syrian community that is making contributions and may be well-placed to facilitate the integration of new Syrian refugees.

Syrian immigrants in the United States

Syrian immigrants earn good wages

The median annual wage for Syrian immigrants in the United States is $52,000, which is higher than the wages for immigrants overall and the wages for U.S.-born workers. Immigrants make $36,000, compared with U.S.-born workers, who make $45,000. This is good news for Syrian immigrants, and it makes them an even stronger receiving community for refugee arrivals.

Also notable is the fact that wages for immigrants in general increase over time spent in the United States, as they gain work experience, improve their English, and in other ways learn to navigate the American workplace or increase their skill level or level of educational attainment.

This increase is particularly prominent for Syrian immigrants. Wages in the United States are substantially different for Syrian men and women, so this brief looks at the differences disaggregated by gender.

Syrian immigrant men who have been here for 10 years or less have a median wage of $43,000, while those who have been here longer have a median wage of $65,000. By comparison, for immigrant men overall, recent arrivals have a median wage of $30,000, and those who have been here longer have a median wage of $41,000.

And while Syrian immigrant women who have recently arrived in the United States do considerably less well than men—in large measure due to the difference in educational attainment, as described below—Syrian women have the same median income as other immigrant women who are recent arrivals—$27,000. After having been here for 10 years, however, Syrian women have a median wage of $42,000, while immigrant women overall have a median wage of $36,000.

Educational attainment of Syrian immigrants

The comparatively high wages of Syrian immigrants are closely connected with high levels of educational attainment.

A very high 38 percent of Syrian immigrants have a four-year college degree or higher, compared with 28 percent of immigrants in general and 29 percent of U.S. citizens by birth—in all cases, for people ages 25 and older.

What stands out, however, is the very high share of Syrian men with an advanced degree. (see Table 1) Fully 27 percent of Syrian immigrant men have a master’s, doctorate, or professional degree.

On the other hand, Syrians who do not have a four-year degree broadly resemble other immigrants. Twenty-five percent of Syrians did not graduate high school; this is more similar to the rate for immigrants overall, at 31 percent, than to the rate for U.S.-born people, at 10 percent. For 19 percent of Syrian immigrants, the highest level of degree is high school—more similar to immigrants overall, at 22 percent, than to U.S.-born individuals, at 29 percent.

While the share of Syrian immigrant women with an advanced degree is somewhat lower than the share of immigrants and U.S.-born women, it is worth noting that the share of Syrian immigrant women whose highest level of educational attainment is a four-year college degree is slightly higher than for other groups: 21 percent for Syrian immigrant women; 17 percent for immigrant women overall; and 19 percent for U.S.-born women. (Note: Differences of 1 or 2 percentage points may lack statistical significance.)

While a comparable share of new refugees may or may not reach these same levels of educational attainment, it can only be helpful to them that other Syrians have done well and can serve as role models or help new arrivals navigate the American system.

Syrian women’s labor force participation grows over time

Not only do Syrian women’s wages increase over time spent in the United States, but their labor force participation increases as well.

In general, the labor force participation rates for immigrant women increase over time in the United States as women become accustomed to U.S. norms—and perhaps also as their children get older, allowing them to enter the workforce. As a point of comparison, the labor force participation rate for U.S.-born women is 73 percent.

For immigrant women, the labor force participation rate is 59 percent for recent arrivals. For those who have been here longer, the rate rises to 70 percent, near the level of U.S.-born women.

Syrian women follow the same upward trend but start and end at lower levels of labor force participation. Among Syrian immigrant women, 40 percent of recent arrivals are in the labor force; for longer-established Syrian immigrant women, the rate increases to 51 percent. These lower rates of labor force participation may be related in part to cultural factors. They may also be related to having less economic pressure to work due to the comparatively high earnings of Syrian immigrant men.

Syrian immigrants are highly entrepreneurial

Immigrants are, on average, more likely to be business owners than the rest of the U.S. population. A report by the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Americas Society/Council of the Americas found, for example, that immigrants make up 13 percent of the population, 16 percent of the labor force, and 18 percent of business owners.9

Among those in the labor force, 4 percent of immigrants are business owners, compared to 3 percent of U.S.-born people.10 But the rate of business ownership among Syrian immigrants stands out dramatically. Fully 11 percent of Syrian immigrants in the labor force are business owners—more than double the rate of immigrants overall and more than triple the rate of U.S. citizens by birth.

Syrian immigrants also generate higher earnings from their businesses than do other business owners. Syrian business owners have average earnings of $72,000, compared with $51,000 for U.S.-born business owners and $40,000 for other immigrants.

Syrians contribute to the economy’s growth by starting a variety of business types. They are particularly likely to have businesses in medical offices, retail stores, food services, and automobile dealerships.

Syrian-owned businesses could provide job opportunities for new refugees and expand access to valuable networks, as well as provide information about new job openings.

Syrian immigrants learn to speak English

Fluency in English is a valued skill in the workplace and is important for upward social and economic mobility in general. Higher-paying positions often require a high level of English proficiency compared with jobs that offer lower wages, and social integration is substantially facilitated when immigrants learn the English language.

It is therefore noteworthy that immigrants in general, and Syrian immigrants in particular, increase their English language ability over time. The fact that Syrian immigrants have done very well in learning English should help and encourage Syrian refugees to do the same.

Among immigrants overall, the share that speak English “very well” or speak only English at home increases from 43 percent to 52 percent when they have lived in the United States for more than a decade. For Syrians, this number starts slightly lower and ends higher: It increases from 39 percent for recent arrivals to 57 percent for more established immigrants who have lived in the United States for more than 10 years.

Once Syrian immigrants have been in the United States for more 10 years, the number who speak only English increases nearly fivefold, from 2 percent to 10 percent.

Syrian immigrants become homeowners

Home ownership is the norm across most of the United States, and it is an important economic goal for many immigrants. Overall, 68 percent of U.S.-born individuals live in homes that they own.

Immigrants who are recent arrivals have, not surprisingly, comparatively low levels of home ownership. Among those who have been here for 10 years or less, 34 percent of immigrants overall and 34 percent of Syrian immigrants own their own home.

This rate increases substantially for more established immigrants. Among immigrants who have been here for more than 10 years, the overall rate of home ownership is 62 percent; among Syrian immigrants, it is 67 percent.11

As with education, while refugees arriving now may or may not match these impressive levels of home ownership compared with the Syrian immigrants who came before them, having people who speak their language and who could help explain the process of purchasing a home may help guide refugees toward home ownership.

Syrian immigrants naturalize as U.S. citizens

Citizenship is a strong marker of integration in the United States: To become a citizen, immigrants must decide to apply; generally, pay a fee; pass English and civics tests; complete an interview; and ultimately, swear allegiance to the United States.12

Forty-two percent of immigrants who have been in the United States for 11 to 20 years have become U.S. citizens, as have 71 percent of those who have been here for 21 years or more.
Among Syrian immigrants, these numbers are even higher: 77 percent of those here for 11 to 20 years, and 91 percent of those here for 21 years or more, have become naturalized U.S. citizens.

Syrian refugees’ integration

At the local level, communities play a key role in ensuring and easing the integration of newly resettled refugees. The way communities treat refugees plays an important role in how well refugees integrate, find their place in society, and learn English. Syrian refugees have been resettled across many states: Some have been resettled in cities—such as Chicago and Dallas—that have existing Syrian communities, while others have been resettled in cities such as Troy, Michigan, and Glendale, Arizona, with small Syrian immigrant populations.13 Refugee resettlement agencies choose the locations for new refugees by taking a range of factors into account, from housing costs and job opportunities to the location of existing relatives.14

A large portion—73 percent—of those resettled are women and children, and children under age 14 make up nearly half of the total resettled.15 A prior report from the Center for American Progress and the Fiscal Policy Institute found that refugees who arrived as children had high school graduation rates similar to those of their U.S.-born peers. And when compared across several refugee groups, individuals who entered the United States as children were more likely to have a bachelor’s degree than those who came as adults.16 Ultimately, the communities receiving the new refugees and their families have an opportunity to take part in supporting them to help them become contributing members of society.

There are numerous examples of U.S. communities welcoming Syrian families. In Houston, for example, the Syrian American Club—a nonprofit group consisting of doctors, lawyers, engineers, businessmen, and others—organizes cultural gatherings, offers Arabic language classes for children, and raises funds for scholarships.17 This type of committee provides essential support for new refugees, such as helping them complete job applications, driving them to job interviews, and babysitting their children. In Connecticut, community groups have come together under a program by Integrated Refugee & Immigration Services that allows private volunteers to sign up to help refugees. The program has resettled 28 Syrian families in the state.18

However, Syrian refugees have not always been welcomed in their new country. Some states, such as Texas and Indiana, have attempted to prevent the resettlement of Syrian refugees in their communities; to date, these efforts have been thwarted in the lower and higher courts.19For example, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit upheld the decision of a lower court that stopped Indiana from withholding critically needed resettlement dollars, an action that would have effectively prevented the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the state.20The panel unanimously described the state’s policy as unlawful discrimination.

Finally, while this issue brief focuses on the receiving community for Syrian refugees—the United States’ pre-existing Syrian immigrant population—Syrian refugees are being resettled throughout the country. More than half of all Syrian refugees—54 percent—are in seven states: California; Michigan; Texas; Arizona; Pennsylvania; Illinois; and Florida.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/reports/2016/12/13/2...

Now would be a good time to send a donation to the ACLU.  They are going to be very busy and need to be adequately capitalized to respond emergently to prevent harm.  It is a very effective way to show your support to those who would defend our Constitution and what's left of our civil liberties.

This week has increased my fear that Trump is going to get us all killed.

Thanks for the suggestion to donate to the ACLU. They are going to be so busy!

>>>>>This week has increased my fear that Trump is going to get us all killed.

they did move the doomsday clock up to its closest position to midnight since 1950 yesterday.

Jedhead, since you're always babbling above people needing to study history, I thought you'd be interested in this...

Government Turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies

In a long tradition of “persecuting the refugee,” the State Department and FDR claimed that Jewish immigrants could threaten national security

In the summer of 1942, the SS Drottningholm set sail carrying hundreds of desperate Jewish refugees, en route to New York City from Sweden. Among them was Herbert Karl Friedrich Bahr, a 28-year-old from Germany, who was also seeking entry to the United States. When he arrived, he told the same story as his fellow passengers: As a victim of persecution, he wanted asylum from Nazi violence.

But during a meticulous interview process that involved five separate government agencies, Bahr's story began to unravel. Days later, the FBI accused Bahr of being a Nazi spy. They said the Gestapo had given him $7,000 to steal American industrial secrets—and that he'd posed as a refugee in order to sneak into the country unnoticed. His case was rushed to trial, and the prosecution called for the death penalty.

What Bahr didn’t know, or perhaps didn’t mind, was that his story would be used as an excuse to deny visas to thousands of Jews fleeing the horrors of the Nazi regime.

World War II prompted the largest displacement of human beings the world has ever seen—although today's refugee crisis is starting to approach its unprecedented scale. But even with millions of European Jews displaced from their homes, the United States had a poor track record offering asylum. Most notoriously, in June 1939, the German ocean liner St. Louis and its 937 passengers, almost all Jewish, were turned away from the port of Miami, forcing the ship to return to Europe; more than a quarter died in the Holocaust.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousand...

Wow Jed.  Just Wow....

Jedhead, do you know that Canada has taken in almost 40000 Syrian refugees? That's compared to our 10000 or so. Any of those refugees carry out an attack in Canada?

Since those refugees can just walk across a wooded section of the US/ Canadian border, maybe the US should build a wall across its northern border.

Oh regarding your condescending question regarding different "types" of Muslims from different regions...

Are you familiar with wahhabism?  

For more than two centuries, Wahhabism has been Saudi Arabia's dominant faith. It is an austere form of Islam that insists on a literal interpretation of the Koran. Strict Wahhabis believe that all those who don't practice their form of Islam are heathens and enemies. Critics say that Wahhabism's rigidity has led it to misinterpret and distort Islam, pointing to extremists such as Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Wahhabism's explosive growth began in the 1970s when Saudi charities started funding Wahhabi schools (madrassas) and mosques from Islamabad to Culver City, California. Here are excerpts from FRONTLINE's interviews with Mai Yamani, an anthropologist who studies Saudi society; Vali Nasr, an authority on Islamic fundamentalism; Maher Hathout, spokesperson for the Islamic Center of Southern California; and Ahmed Ali, a Shi'a Muslim from Saudi Arabia. (Also see the Links and Readings section of this site for more analyses of Wahhabism and Saudi Arabia

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html

If we fear that a radicalized muslim may carry out an attack in the US, Why has Trump not banned immigrants from the epicenter of Wahhabism, Saudi Arabia? Is it because he has business interests there? 

>>> I don't understand. We have borders for a reason.  What is it you are after a world without borders where we are all reduce our quality of life to the lowest common denominator?  Is that really what you want for your children?  You do not have the moral high ground. You want to allow people into this country that have been taught to hate us since childhood. And they do hate us. They will not assimilate into and respect our culture. They want to destroy western civilization; <<<

This is pathetic.
Jed, I challenge you to look at the individuals being denied entrance and detained. ALL will be admitted ultimately, because they have already been vetted and have the proper visas, etc
This move by tRump is all theatrics. He and his cronies all know these archaic detentions will be stopped through the courts. They just want to bully the Muslims and toss red meat to all the Jed's of the USA.  Talk about hate. What are you teaching your kids, Jed?

 To save money and American lives we have banned Muslims from 7 countries.

Integral to this plan is "safe Zones" in Syria.

The estimated monthly cost to the US of manning and maintaining these zones is a minimum of $1 billion.

We will have tens of thousands of troops on the ground, and will have to enforce no fly zones. This puts us in a ground war in the Middle East, where the thousands of US lives will be lost.

How exactly does the Muslim ban save lives and money?

I think Jed needs a safe space.

The ACLU won another TRO in Boston last night!

https://aclum.org/uncategorized/federal-court-boston-issues-temporary-re...

So much of this makes me wonder how folks that voted for Trump are feeling. I noticed we have an admitted Trump supporter here, and now they just post Crap,and run.

amazing anyone would still support this evil man

off to the airport 

the ban is a bit harsh.

i could get behind driver reeducation for the hajib wearing women in north jersey however.

^Still nowhere to be found at any of them. Not even the women's march.

>^Still nowhere to be found at any of them. Not even the women's march.

Hillary?

She's on the phone with Cy Vance and Bharara begging them to indict DeBlasio

Steve Jobs was the son of a Syrian immigrant. 

^highnote, don't mess with jedhead's fictional narrative. Syrains do not assimilate!

Jedhead, here is some info about Iranian immigrants...

AssimilationEdit

Four benchmarks are generally used traditionally to measure assimilation: language proficiency, intermarriage, spatial concentration, and socio-economic status. Per these criteria, one can determine with a significant degree of confidence that the Iranian American community has made significant strides in successfully assimilating to a new culture and way of living.[22]According to a survey commissioned by the PAAIA in 2008, only 21 percent of Iranian Americans reported interacting mostly with other Iranian Americans outside of their workplace, demonstrating that most of them have successfully integrated into United States society.[22]

Intermarriage rate is very high among Iranian Americans.[22] It has been estimated that nearly 50 percent of Iranian Americans who married between 1995 and 2007 married non-Iranian Americans.[22] Research has furthermore indicated that Iranian Americans who are Muslim are more open to intermarry than those who are members of religious or ethnic minorities, such as Jews and Armenians.[22] Women are less likely to intermarry compared to men, which, according to the PAAIA, is likely because as a group they are more likely to adhere to traditional Iranian values, including marriages that are approved by their families and within Iranian cultural norms.[22] Regarding language profiency in the United States amongst its immigrant groups, the first generation principally speaks their native language, the second generation speaks both English and their parents' language, and the third generation typically speaks only English, while maintaining knowledge of some isolated words and phrases from their ancestral tongue.[22] The Iranian American community follows this pattern.[22]

SocioeconomicsEdit

Occupations and incomeEdit

The Small Business Administration (SBA) conducted a study that found Iranian immigrants among the top 20 immigrant groups with the highest rate of business ownership, contributing substantially to the U.S. economy. According to the report, there were 33,570 active and contributing Iranian American business owners in the U.S., with a 21.5% business ownership rate. The study also found that the total net business income generated by Iranian Americans was $2.56 billion.[60] Almost one in three Iranian American households have annual incomes of more than $100K (compared to one in five for the overall U.S. population).[61] Ali Mostasahri a founding member of the Iranian Studies Group, offers a reason for the relative success of Iranian-Americans compared to other immigrants. He believes that unlike many other immigrants who left their home countries because of economic hardships, Iranians left due to social or religious reasons like the 1979 revolution.[41] About 50 percent of all working Iranian Americans are in professional and managerial occupations, greater than any other group in the United States (Bayor, 2011).[62]

EducationEdit

As further stipulated by Prof. Ronald H. Bayor, from the very beginning, Iranian immigrants differed from other arrivals by their highly educational and professional achievements.[62] According to Census 2000, 50.9 percent of Iranian immigrants have attained a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 28.0 percent national average.[5]According to the latest census data available, more than one in four Iranian-Americans holds a master's or doctoral degree, the highest rate among 67 ethnic groups studied.[6]

A 1990 University of California, Los Angeles study showed that by education and occupation, native-born and Iranian-Americans of Armenian origin "tend to have the highest socioeconomic status... while those from Turkey have the lowest", although Turkish Armenians boast the highest rate of self-employment.[63] In 1988, The New York Times article claimed that Middle Eastern Armenians, which includes Armenians from Iran, prefer to settle in Glendale, California, while Armenian immigrants from the Soviet Union were attracted to Hollywood, Los Angeles.[64]

A study regarding Americans of Armenian descent showed that Armenians from Iran (Iranian-Armenians) are known for fast integration into American society;[65] for example, only 31% of Armenian Americans born in Iran claim not to speak English well,[66]while those Armenians from other nations were shown to have less steady successes of integration.

PhysiciansEdit

See also: Iranian American Medical Association

The earliest Iranian professionals in the U.S. before the 1979 revolution were the physicians. They were mostly young temporary trainees who worked as medical interns or residents. Some established themselves to continue practice beyond the residency stage. Their motives to extend their stay in the United States were more geared towards professional reasons than economics. Researcher from Johns Hopkins University in 1974 reported in the Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) that in 1971 the number of Iranian physicians in the U.S. was 1,625.[67]

In 2013, another report was published in Archive of Iranian Medicine (AIM) that post revolution the number of Iranian Medical School graduates in the United States had grown to 5,045. Later, those who migrated to the U.S. after the 1979 revolution were mostly experienced physicians who came with their families and intent to stay permanently. As of 2013, there are a 5,050 Iranian Medical School Graduates in the United States.[68]

Prior to revolution the 1,626 physicians migrated to the United States were 15% of all medical graduates of Iranian medical school graduates while the 5,045 medical graduates who migrated post Islamic Revolution represent only 5% of total Iranian Medical Graduates. This is not indicative of the entire United States, merely of the areas in which most of the Iranian American population is concentrated

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Americans

Yup, Hilary. She wasn't at any of he women's marches.

^ probably a good thing. She is polarizing, and there would be too much focus on her.

>Yup, Hilary. She wasn't at any of he women's marches.

 understandable.

 right or wrong trump would tee off on her if she got loud and i don't think she's cut from the same cloth as say liz warren. not to mention she's far from done and pestering trump would not serve her well in her future effort to be the alternative to DeBlasio.

Only people from countries with no Trump hotels or buildings will be banned.

As noted above, most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?   Why isn't that country on the banned list?

Why isn't that country on the banned list?

next week

Precedent is the presidential (electoral college) loser lays low for a while. 

HRC should stay out of things and let the new coalition form. 

In 2015, Obama dropped 23,144 bombs on six muslim countries. Fact.

In 2015, Obama dropped 23,144 bombs on six muslim countries. Fact.

Lassen, shhhh...he was trying to keep that quiet

I'm all for the protests, but where have you people been? I heard no one standing up for the muslims being murdered by Obama.

It's fucking insane..

We need a new investigation into 9-11, and then a significant change in our policy regarding the middle east

Obama’s administration made the “Muslim ban” possible and the media won’t tell you

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-musl...

LASSEN! What's up bro? What's the latest on Pizzagate? Have you gone down to investigate yet? I'm hoping to soon! 

fkn JV team causing all sorts of problems

We also learn from Snowden that he was morally repulsed by the war crimes that our government commits under the false pretext of "national security." He explains to his coworkers, while working for Booz Allen Hamilton as a contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), that they could be criminally liable for killing civilians with drone strikes, and for other crimes.

Snowden: You've heard of the Nuremberg Trials, Trev? They weren't that long ago.
Trevor: Yeah. And we hung the Nazi big shots, didn't we? So?
Snowden: That was the first trial. The next one was guards, lawyers, policemen, judges. People who were just following orders. That's how we got the Nuremberg principles, which the U.N. made into international law ... in case ordinary jobs become criminal again.  

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/316762-mccain-graham-trump-order-...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/republicans-call-trumps-...

>>>>>No surprise that some are going to blame OBAMA for Trump's  Muslim

i take it you didn't read the article or the executive order.

Jedhead, you expressed a concern about sharia law, so I thought you'd be interested in this...

In countries with classical Shariah systems, Shariah has official status or a high degree of influence on the legal system, and covers family law, criminal law, and in some places, personal beliefs, including penalties for apostasy, blasphemy, and not praying. These countries include Egypt, Mauritania, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Maldives, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and certain regions in Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria, and the United Arab Emirates

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3660813

Only some of those countries are on the list, should we be concerned?

im thinking the real plan .... more middle east war , seizure of oil fields , allied with Russia , and perhaps India , as   India has moved a lot of tanks to the Pakistan border recently ....then domintation of China ..and they will go all out racist for both and will use christianity , with terms like crusade and the "asians" dont look like "us"  ....seems that the racist , religious and oligarchs are all one ....they have a little diversity

"Reason herself, to whom the reins of power have been entrusted, remains mistress only so long as she is kept apart from the passions." Seneca

Shoelesh, quit scaring me.

I'm thinking the whole ban/wall thing is an attempt to draw a foul, too - a provocation of an attack that would justify the imposition of martial law domestically as well as international aggression.

Someone on Trump's team must have an 8th grade level of understanding of the Constitution and separation of powers, and so must have known the ban executive order would never fly.  The wall is just silly and impossible.  So what's their real plan? Is Shoelesh right?

Is Bannon running everything now? Or Putin?

Its just a temporary ban

and its not all Muslims

Islam is the religion of peace

with the exception of a few million who want to kill us.

the left only wants to make this issue to garner votes

the lefties do not care about Muslims nor do they care about you..

only care about votes

votes mean power and riches

So what happens at the end of this "temporary" ban? Rampant terrorism across the USA?

Interesting take on it, Dead2. 

I care about the issue and I'm not seeing any votes.

Am I the anomaly amongst liberals? I think that most who care about it also aren't seeking votes. We're just the public.

zooey    we are awaiting for an excuse to pull a Reichstag Fire Decree to suspend habeas corpus along the lines of Lincoln the "Republican" ......the "wall" i feel is diversionary 

 care about the issue and I'm not seeing any votes.>>

you care about the Syrian refugees?

the people that the obama let get massacred for years when he had an opportunity to help but was to feckless and cowardly?

you must be very upset and disappointed with the obama administration for having a part in creating the refugee mess that is creating massive problems wherever they end up.

and who else do you care about?

there are millions of people being victimized all over the world

The genocide to the Christians? do you care about them?

I don't recall the left making a big deal about the Christians being massacred by ISIS..

Do you care about -

The overall conclusion reached is that the United States most likely has been responsible since WWII for the deaths of between 20 and 30 million people in wars and conflicts scattered over the world.

To the families and friends of these victims it makes little difference whether the causes were U.S. military action, proxy military forces, the provision of U.S. military supplies or advisors, or other ways, such as economic pressures applied by our nation. They had to make decisions about other things such as finding lost loved ones, whether to become refugees, and how to survive.

And the pain and anger is spread even further. Some authorities estimate that there are as many as 10 wounded for each person who dies in wars. Their visible, continued suffering is a continuing reminder to their fellow countrymen.

It is essential that Americans learn more about this topic so that they can begin to understand the pain that others feel. Someone once observed that the Germans during WWII “chose not to know.” We cannot allow history to say this about our country. The question posed above was “How many September 11ths has the United States caused in other nations since WWII?” The answer is: possibly 10,000.

37 VICTIM NATIONS

Afghanistan

The U.S. is responsible for between 1 and 1.8 million deaths during the war between the Soviet Union and Afghanistan, by luring the Soviet Union into invading that nation. (1,2,3,4)

The Soviet Union had friendly relations its neighbor, Afghanistan, which had a secular government. The Soviets feared that if that government became fundamentalist this change could spill over into the Soviet Union.

In 1998, in an interview with the Parisian publication Le Novel Observateur, Zbigniew Brzezinski, adviser to President Carter, admitted that he had been responsible for instigating aid to the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan which caused the Soviets to invade. In his own words:

According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan on 24 December 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise. Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the President in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention. (5,1,6)

Brzezinski justified laying this trap, since he said it gave the Soviet Union its Vietnam and caused the breakup of the Soviet Union. “Regret what?” he said. “That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it?” (7)

The CIA spent 5 to 6 billion dollars on its operation in Afghanistan in order to bleed the Soviet Union. (1,2,3) When that 10-year war ended over a million people were dead and Afghan heroin had captured 60% of the U.S. market. (4)

The U.S. has been responsible directly for about 12,000 deaths in Afghanistan many of which resulted from bombing in retaliation for the attacks on U.S. property on September 11, 2001. Subsequently U.S. troops invaded that country. (4)

Angola

An indigenous armed struggle against Portuguese rule in Angola began in 1961. In 1977 an Angolan government was recognized by the U.N., although the U.S. was one of the few nations that opposed this action. In 1986 Uncle Sam approved material assistance to UNITA, a group that was trying to overthrow the government. Even today this struggle, which has involved many nations at times, continues.

U.S. intervention was justified to the U.S. public as a reaction to the intervention of 50,000 Cuban troops in Angola. However, according to Piero Gleijeses, a history professor at Johns Hopkins University the reverse was true. The Cuban intervention came as a result of a CIA – financed covert invasion via neighboring Zaire and a drive on the Angolan capital by the U.S. ally, South Africa1,2,3). (Three estimates of deaths range from 300,000 to 750,000 (4,5,6)

Argentina: See South America: Operation Condor

Bangladesh: See Pakistan

Bolivia

Hugo Banzer was the leader of a repressive regime in Bolivia in the 1970s. The U.S. had been disturbed when a previous leader nationalized the tin mines and distributed land to Indian peasants. Later that action to benefit the poor was reversed.

Banzer, who was trained at the U.S.-operated School of the Americas in Panama and later at Fort Hood, Texas, came back from exile frequently to confer with U.S. Air Force Major Robert Lundin. In 1971 he staged a successful coup with the help of the U.S. Air Force radio system. In the first years of his dictatorship he received twice as military assistance from the U.S. as in the previous dozen years together.

A few years later the Catholic Church denounced an army massacre of striking tin workers in 1975, Banzer, assisted by information provided by the CIA, was able to target and locate leftist priests and nuns. His anti-clergy strategy, known as the Banzer Plan, was adopted by nine other Latin American dictatorships in 1977. (2) He has been accused of being responsible for 400 deaths during his tenure. (1)

Also see: See South America: Operation Condor
Brazil: See South America: Operation Condor

Cambodia

U.S. bombing of Cambodia had already been underway for several years in secret under the Johnson and Nixon administrations, but when President Nixon openly began bombing in preparation for a land assault on Cambodia it caused major protests in the U.S. against the Vietnam War.

There is little awareness today of the scope of these bombings and the human suffering involved.

Immense damage was done to the villages and cities of Cambodia, causing refugees and internal displacement of the population. This unstable situation enabled the Khmer Rouge, a small political party led by Pol Pot, to assume power. Over the years we have repeatedly heard about the Khmer Rouge’s role in the deaths of millions in Cambodia without any acknowledgement being made this mass killing was made possible by the the U.S. bombing of that nation which destabilized it by death , injuries, hunger and dislocation of its people.

So the U.S. bears responsibility not only for the deaths from the bombings but also for those resulting from the activities of the Khmer Rouge – a total of about 2.5 million people. Even when Vietnam latrer invaded Cambodia in 1979 the CIA was still supporting the Khmer Rouge. (1,2,3)

Chad

An estimated 40,000 people in Chad were killed and as many as 200,000 tortured by a government, headed by Hissen Habre who was brought to power in June, 1982 with the help of CIA money and arms. He remained in power for eight years. (1,2)

Human Rights Watch claimed that Habre was responsible for thousands of killings. In 2001, while living in Senegal, he was almost tried for crimes committed by him in Chad. However, a court there blocked these proceedings. Then human rights people decided to pursue the case in Belgium, because some of Habre’s torture victims lived there. The U.S., in June 2003, told Belgium that it risked losing its status as host to NATO’s headquarters if it allowed such a legal proceeding to happen. So the result was that the law that allowed victims to file complaints in Belgium for atrocities committed abroad was repealed. However, two months later a new law was passed which made special provision for the continuation of the case against Habre.

Chile

The CIA intervened in Chile’s 1958 and 1964 elections. In 1970 a socialist candidate, Salvador Allende, was elected president. The CIA wanted to incite a military coup to prevent his inauguration, but the Chilean army’s chief of staff, General Rene Schneider, opposed this action. The CIA then planned, along with some people in the Chilean military, to assassinate Schneider. This plot failed and Allende took office. President Nixon was not to be dissuaded and he ordered the CIA to create a coup climate: “Make the economy scream,” he said.
What followed were guerilla warfare, arson, bombing, sabotage and terror. ITT and other U.S. corporations with Chilean holdings sponsored demonstrations and strikes. Finally, on September 11, 1973 Allende died either by suicide or by assassination. At that time Henry Kissinger, U.S. Secretary of State, said the following regarding Chile: “I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people.” (1)

During 17 years of terror under Allende’s successor, General Augusto Pinochet, an estimated 3,000 Chileans were killed and many others were tortured or “disappeared.” (2,3,4,5)

Also see South America: Operation Condor

China An estimated 900,000 Chinese died during the Korean War. For more information, See: Korea.
Colombia

One estimate is that 67,000 deaths have occurred from the 1960s to recent years due to support by the U.S. of Colombian state terrorism. (1)

According to a 1994 Amnesty International report, more than 20,000 people were killed for political reasons in Colombia since 1986, mainly by the military and its paramilitary allies. Amnesty alleged that “U.S.- supplied military equipment, ostensibly delivered for use against narcotics traffickers, was being used by the Colombian military to commit abuses in the name of “counter-insurgency.” (2) In 2002 another estimate was made that 3,500 people die each year in a U.S. funded civilian war in Colombia. (3)

In 1996 Human Rights Watch issued a report “Assassination Squads in Colombia” which revealed that CIA agents went to Colombia in 1991 to help the military to train undercover agents in anti-subversive activity. (4,5)

In recent years the U.S. government has provided assistance under Plan Colombia. The Colombian government has been charged with using most of the funds for destruction of crops and support of the paramilitary group.

Cuba

In the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba on April 18, 1961 which ended after 3 days, 114 of the invading force were killed, 1,189 were taken prisoners and a few escaped to waiting U.S. ships. (1) The captured exiles were quickly tried, a few executed and the rest sentenced to thirty years in prison for treason. These exiles were released after 20 months in exchange for $53 million in food and medicine.

Some people estimate that the number of Cuban forces killed range from 2,000, to 4,000. Another estimate is that 1,800 Cuban forces were killed on an open highway by napalm. This appears to have been a precursor of the Highway of Death in Iraq in 1991 when U.S. forces mercilessly annihilated large numbers of Iraqis on a highway. (2)

Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire)

The beginning of massive violence was instigated in this country in 1879 by its colonizer King Leopold of Belgium. The Congo’s population was reduced by 10 million people over a period of 20 years which some have referred to as “Leopold’s Genocide.” (1) The U.S. has been responsible for about a third of that many deaths in that nation in the more recent past. (2)

In 1960 the Congo became an independent state with Patrice Lumumba being its first prime minister. He was assassinated with the CIA being implicated, although some say that his murder was actually the responsibility of Belgium. (3) But nevertheless, the CIA was planning to kill him. (4) Before his assassination the CIA sent one of its scientists, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, to the Congo carrying “lethal biological material” intended for use in Lumumba’s assassination. This virus would have been able to produce a fatal disease indigenous to the Congo area of Africa and was transported in a diplomatic pouch.

Much of the time in recent years there has been a civil war within the Democratic Republic of Congo, fomented often by the U.S. and other nations, including neighboring nations. (5)

In April 1977, Newsday reported that the CIA was secretly supporting efforts to recruit several hundred mercenaries in the U.S. and Great Britain to serve alongside Zaire’s army. In that same year the U.S. provided $15 million of military supplies to the Zairian President Mobutu to fend off an invasion by a rival group operating in Angola. (6)

In May 1979, the U.S. sent several million dollars of aid to Mobutu who had been condemned 3 months earlier by the U.S. State Department for human rights violations. (7) During the Cold War the U.S. funneled over 300 million dollars in weapons into Zaire (8,9) $100 million in military training was provided to him. (2) In 2001 it was reported to a U.S. congressional committee that American companies, including one linked to former President George Bush Sr., were stoking the Congo for monetary gains. There is an international battle over resources in that country with over 125 companies and individuals being implicated. One of these substances is coltan, which is used in the manufacture of cell phones. (2)

Dominican Republic

In 1962, Juan Bosch became president of the Dominican Republic. He advocated such programs as land reform and public works programs. This did not bode well for his future relationship with the U.S., and after only 7 months in office, he was deposed by a CIA coup. In 1965 when a group was trying to reinstall him to his office President Johnson said, “This Bosch is no good.” Assistant Secretary of State Thomas Mann replied “He’s no good at all. If we don’t get a decent government in there, Mr. President, we get another Bosch. It’s just going to be another sinkhole.” Two days later a U.S. invasion started and 22,000 soldiers and marines entered the Dominican Republic and about 3,000 Dominicans died during the fighting. The cover excuse for doing this was that this was done to protect foreigners there. (1,2,3,4)
East Timor

In December 1975, Indonesia invaded East Timor. This incursion was launched the day after U.S. President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had left Indonesia where they had given President Suharto permission to use American arms, which under U.S. law, could not be used for aggression. Daniel Moynihan, U.S. ambassador to the UN. said that the U.S. wanted “things to turn out as they did.” (1,2) The result was an estimated 200,000 dead out of a population of 700,000. (1,2)

Sixteen years later, on November 12, 1991, two hundred and seventeen East Timorese protesters in Dili, many of them children, marching from a memorial service, were gunned down by Indonesian Kopassus shock troops who were headed by U.S.- trained commanders Prabowo Subianto (son in law of General Suharto) and Kiki Syahnakri. Trucks were seen dumping bodies into the sea. (5)

El Salvador

The civil war from 1981 to1992 in El Salvador was financed by $6 billion in U.S. aid given to support the government in its efforts to crush a movement to bring social justice to the people in that nation of about 8 million people. (1)
During that time U.S. military advisers demonstrated methods of torture on teenage prisoners, according to an interview with a deserter from the Salvadoran army published in the New York Times. This former member of the Salvadoran National Guard testified that he was a member of a squad of twelve who found people who they were told were guerillas and tortured them. Part of the training he received was in torture at a U.S. location somewhere in Panama. (2)

About 900 villagers were massacred in the village of El Mozote in 1981. Ten of the twelve El Salvadoran government soldiers cited as participating in this act were graduates of the School of the Americas operated by the U.S. (2) They were only a small part of about 75,000 people killed during that civil war. (1)

According to a 1993 United Nations’ Truth Commission report, over 96 % of the human rights violations carried out during the war were committed by the Salvadoran army or the paramilitary deaths squads associated with the Salvadoran army. (3)

That commission linked graduates of the School of the Americas to many notorious killings. The New York Times and the Washington Post followed with scathing articles. In 1996, the White House Oversight Board issued a report that supported many of the charges against that school made by Rev. Roy Bourgeois, head of the School of the Americas Watch. That same year the Pentagon released formerly classified reports indicating that graduates were trained in killing, extortion, and physical abuse for interrogations, false imprisonment and other methods of control. (4)

Grenada

The CIA began to destabilize Grenada in 1979 after Maurice Bishop became president, partially because he refused to join the quarantine of Cuba. The campaign against him resulted in his overthrow and the invasion by the U.S. of Grenada on October 25, 1983, with about 277 people dying. (1,2) It was fallaciously charged that an airport was being built in Grenada that could be used to attack the U.S. and it was also erroneously claimed that the lives of American medical students on that island were in danger.

Guatemala

In 1951 Jacobo Arbenz was elected president of Guatemala. He appropriated some unused land operated by the United Fruit Company and compensated the company. (1,2) That company then started a campaign to paint Arbenz as a tool of an international conspiracy and hired about 300 mercenaries who sabotaged oil supplies and trains. (3) In 1954 a CIA-orchestrated coup put him out of office and he left the country. During the next 40 years various regimes killed thousands of people.

In 1999 the Washington Post reported that an Historical Clarification Commission concluded that over 200,000 people had been killed during the civil war and that there had been 42,000 individual human rights violations, 29,000 of them fatal, 92% of which were committed by the army. The commission further reported that the U.S. government and the CIA had pressured the Guatemalan government into suppressing the guerilla movement by ruthless means. (4,5)

According to the Commission between 1981 and 1983 the military government of Guatemala – financed and supported by the U.S. government – destroyed some four hundred Mayan villages in a campaign of genocide. (4)
One of the documents made available to the commission was a 1966 memo from a U.S. State Department official, which described how a “safe house” was set up in the palace for use by Guatemalan security agents and their U.S. contacts. This was the headquarters for the Guatemalan “dirty war” against leftist insurgents and suspected allies. (2)

Haiti

From 1957 to 1986 Haiti was ruled by Papa Doc Duvalier and later by his son. During that time their private terrorist force killed between 30,000 and 100,000 people. (1) Millions of dollars in CIA subsidies flowed into Haiti during that time, mainly to suppress popular movements, (2) although most American military aid to the country, according to William Blum, was covertly channeled through Israel.

Reportedly, governments after the second Duvalier reign were responsible for an even larger number of fatalities, and the influence on Haiti by the U.S., particularly through the CIA, has continued. The U.S. later forced out of the presidential office a black Catholic priest, Jean Bertrand Aristide, even though he was elected with 67% of the vote in the early 1990s. The wealthy white class in Haiti opposed him in this predominantly black nation, because of his social programs designed to help the poor and end corruption. (3) Later he returned to office, but that did not last long. He was forced by the U.S. to leave office and now lives in South Africa.

Honduras

In the 1980s the CIA supported Battalion 316 in Honduras, which kidnapped, tortured and killed hundreds of its citizens. Torture equipment and manuals were provided by CIA Argentinean personnel who worked with U.S. agents in the training of the Hondurans. Approximately 400 people lost their lives. (1,2) This is another instance of torture in the world sponsored by the U.S. (3)

Battalion 316 used shock and suffocation devices in interrogations in the 1980s. Prisoners often were kept naked and, when no longer useful, killed and buried in unmarked graves. Declassified documents and other sources show that the CIA and the U.S. Embassy knew of numerous crimes, including murder and torture, yet continued to support Battalion 316 and collaborate with its leaders.” (4)

Honduras was a staging ground in the early 1980s for the Contras who were trying to overthrow the socialist Sandinista government in Nicaragua. John D. Negroponte, currently Deputy Secretary of State, was our embassador when our military aid to Honduras rose from $4 million to $77.4 million per year. Negroponte denies having had any knowledge of these atrocities during his tenure. However, his predecessor in that position, Jack R. Binns, had reported in 1981 that he was deeply concerned at increasing evidence of officially sponsored/sanctioned assassinations. (5)

Hungary

In 1956 Hungary, a Soviet satellite nation, revolted against the Soviet Union. During the uprising broadcasts by the U.S. Radio Free Europe into Hungary sometimes took on an aggressive tone, encouraging the rebels to believe that Western support was imminent, and even giving tactical advice on how to fight the Soviets. Their hopes were raised then dashed by these broadcasts which cast an even darker shadow over the Hungarian tragedy.“ (1) The Hungarian and Soviet death toll was about 3,000 and the revolution was crushed. (2)

Indonesia

In 1965, in Indonesia, a coup replaced General Sukarno with General Suharto as leader. The U.S. played a role in that change of government. Robert Martens,a former officer in the U.S. embassy in Indonesia, described how U.S. diplomats and CIA officers provided up to 5,000 names to Indonesian Army death squads in 1965 and checked them off as they were killed or captured. Martens admitted that “I probably have a lot of blood on my hands, but that’s not all bad. There’s a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment.” (1,2,3) Estimates of the number of deaths range from 500,000 to 3 million. (4,5,6)
From 1993 to 1997 the U.S. provided Jakarta with almost $400 million in economic aid and sold tens of million of dollars of weaponry to that nation. U.S. Green Berets provided training for the Indonesia’s elite force which was responsible for many of atrocities in East Timor. (3)

Iran

Iran lost about 262,000 people in the war against Iraq from 1980 to 1988. (1) See Iraq for more information about that war.

On July 3, 1988 the U.S. Navy ship, the Vincennes, was operating withing Iranian waters providing military support for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. During a battle against Iranian gunboats it fired two missiles at an Iranian Airbus, which was on a routine civilian flight. All 290 civilian on board were killed. (2,3)

Iraq

A. The Iraq-Iran War lasted from 1980 to 1988 and during that time there were about 105,000 Iraqi deaths according to the Washington Post. (1,2)

According to Howard Teicher, a former National Security Council official, the U.S. provided the Iraqis with billions of dollars in credits and helped Iraq in other ways such as making sure that Iraq had military equipment including biological agents This surge of help for Iraq came as Iran seemed to be winning the war and was close to Basra. (1) The U.S. was not adverse to both countries weakening themselves as a result of the war, but it did not appear to want either side to win.

B: The U.S.-Iraq War and the Sanctions Against Iraq extended from 1990 to 2003.

Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990 and the U.S. responded by demanding that Iraq withdraw, and four days later the U.N. levied international sanctions.

Iraq had reason to believe that the U.S. would not object to its invasion of Kuwait, since U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had told Saddam Hussein that the U.S. had no position on the dispute that his country had with Kuwait. So the green light was given, but it seemed to be more of a trap.

As a part of the public relations strategy to energize the American public into supporting an attack against Iraq the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the U.S. falsely testified before Congress that Iraqi troops were pulling the plugs on incubators in Iraqi hospitals. (1) This contributed to a war frenzy in the U.S.

The U.S. air assault started on January 17, 1991 and it lasted for 42 days. On February 23 President H.W. Bush ordered the U.S. ground assault to begin. The invasion took place with much needless killing of Iraqi military personnel. Only about 150 American military personnel died compared to about 200,000 Iraqis. Some of the Iraqis were mercilessly killed on the Highway of Death and about 400 tons of depleted uranium were left in that nation by the U.S. (2,3)

Other deaths later were from delayed deaths due to wounds, civilians killed, those killed by effects of damage of the Iraqi water treatment facilities and other aspects of its damaged infrastructure and by the sanctions.

In 1995 the Food and Agriculture Organization of the U.N. reported that U.N sanctions against on Iraq had been responsible for the deaths of more than 560,000 children since 1990. (5)

Leslie Stahl on the TV Program 60 Minutes in 1996 mentioned to Madeleine Albright, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. “We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And – and you know, is the price worth it?” Albright replied “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price – we think is worth it.” (4)

In 1999 UNICEF reported that 5,000 children died each month as a result of the sanction and the War with the U.S. (6)

Richard Garfield later estimated that the more likely number of excess deaths among children under five years of age from 1990 through March 1998 to be 227,000 – double those of the previous decade. Garfield estimated that the numbers to be 350,000 through 2000 (based in part on result of another study). (7)

However, there are limitations to his study. His figures were not updated for the remaining three years of the sanctions. Also, two other somewhat vulnerable age groups were not studied: young children above the age of five and the elderly.

All of these reports were considerable indicators of massive numbers of deaths which the U.S. was aware of and which was a part of its strategy to cause enough pain and terror among Iraqis to cause them to revolt against their government.

C: Iraq-U.S. War started in 2003 and has not been concluded

Just as the end of the Cold War emboldened the U.S. to attack Iraq in 1991 so the attacks of September 11, 2001 laid the groundwork for the U.S. to launch the current war against Iraq. While in some other wars we learned much later about the lies that were used to deceive us, some of the deceptions that were used to get us into this war became known almost as soon as they were uttered. There were no weapons of mass destruction, we were not trying to promote democracy, we were not trying to save the Iraqi people from a dictator.

The total number of Iraqi deaths that are a result of our current Iraq against Iraq War is 654,000, of which 600,000 are attributed to acts of violence, according to Johns Hopkins researchers. (1,2)

Since these deaths are a result of the U.S. invasion, our leaders must accept responsibility for them.

Israeli-Palestinian War

About 100,000 to 200,000 Israelis and Palestinians, but mostly the latter, have been killed in the struggle between those two groups. The U.S. has been a strong supporter of Israel, providing billions of dollars in aid and supporting its possession of nuclear weapons. (1,2)

Korea, North and South

The Korean War started in 1950 when, according to the Truman administration, North Korea invaded South Korea on June 25th. However, since then another explanation has emerged which maintains that the attack by North Korea came during a time of many border incursions by both sides. South Korea initiated most of the border clashes with North Korea beginning in 1948. The North Korea government claimed that by 1949 the South Korean army committed 2,617 armed incursions. It was a myth that the Soviet Union ordered North Korea to attack South Korea. (1,2)

The U.S. started its attack before a U.N. resolution was passed supporting our nation’s intervention, and our military forces added to the mayhem in the war by introducing the use of napalm. (1)

During the war the bulk of the deaths were South Koreans, North Koreans and Chinese. Four sources give deaths counts ranging from 1.8 to 4.5 million. (3,4,5,6) Another source gives a total of 4 million but does not identify to which nation they belonged. (7)

John H. Kim, a U.S. Army veteran and the Chair of the Korea Committee of Veterans for Peace, stated in an article that during the Korean War “the U.S. Army, Air Force and Navy were directly involved in the killing of about three million civilians – both South and North Koreans – at many locations throughout Korea…It is reported that the U.S. dropped some 650,000 tons of bombs, including 43,000 tons of napalm bombs, during the Korean War.” It is presumed that this total does not include Chinese casualties.

Another source states a total of about 500,000 who were Koreans and presumably only military. (8,9)

Laos

From 1965 to 1973 during the Vietnam War the U.S. dropped over two million tons of bombs on Laos – more than was dropped in WWII by both sides. Over a quarter of the population became refugees. This was later called a “secret war,” since it occurred at the same time as the Vietnam War, but got little press. Hundreds of thousands were killed. Branfman make the only estimate that I am aware of , stating that hundreds of thousands died. This can be interpeted to mean that at least 200,000 died. (1,2,3)

U.S. military intervention in Laos actually began much earlier. A civil war started in the 1950s when the U.S. recruited a force of 40,000 Laotians to oppose the Pathet Lao, a leftist political party that ultimately took power in 1975.

Also See Vietnam

Nepal

Between 8,000 and 12,000 Nepalese have died since a civil war broke out in 1996. The death rate, according to Foreign Policy in Focus, sharply increased with the arrival of almost 8,400 American M-16 submachine guns (950 rpm) and U.S. advisers. Nepal is 85 percent rural and badly in need of land reform. Not surprisingly 42 % of its people live below the poverty level. (1,2)

In 2002, after another civil war erupted, President George W. Bush pushed a bill through Congress authorizing $20 million in military aid to the Nepalese government. (3)

Nicaragua

In 1981 the Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza government in Nicaragua, (1) and until 1990 about 25,000 Nicaraguans were killed in an armed struggle between the Sandinista government and Contra rebels who were formed from the remnants of Somoza’s national government. The use of assassination manuals by the Contras surfaced in 1984. (2,3)

The U.S. supported the victorious government regime by providing covert military aid to the Contras (anti-communist guerillas) starting in November, 1981. But when Congress discovered that the CIA had supervised acts of sabotage in Nicaragua without notifying Congress, it passed the Boland Amendment in 1983 which prohibited the CIA, Defense Department and any other government agency from providing any further covert military assistance. (4)

But ways were found to get around this prohibition. The National Security Council, which was not explicitly covered by the law, raised private and foreign funds for the Contras. In addition, arms were sold to Iran and the proceeds were diverted from those sales to the Contras engaged in the insurgency against the Sandinista government. (5) Finally, the Sandinistas were voted out of office in 1990 by voters who thought that a change in leadership would placate the U.S., which was causing misery to Nicaragua’s citizenry by it support of the Contras.

Pakistan

In 1971 West Pakistan, an authoritarian state supported by the U.S., brutally invaded East Pakistan. The war ended after India, whose economy was staggering after admitting about 10 million refugees, invaded East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and defeated the West Pakistani forces. (1)

Millions of people died during that brutal struggle, referred to by some as genocide committed by West Pakistan. That country had long been an ally of the U.S., starting with $411 million provided to establish its armed forces which spent 80% of its budget on its military. $15 million in arms flowed into W. Pakistan during the war. (2,3,4)

Three sources estimate that 3 million people died and (5,2,6) one source estimates 1.5 million. (3)

Panama

In December, 1989 U.S. troops invaded Panama, ostensibly to arrest Manuel Noriega, that nation’s president. This was an example of the U.S. view that it is the master of the world and can arrest anyone it wants to. For a number of years before that he had worked for the CIA, but fell out of favor partially because he was not an opponent of the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. (1) It has been estimated that between 500 and 4,000 people died. (2,3,4)

Paraguay: See South America: Operation Condor

Philippines

The Philippines were under the control of the U.S. for over a hundred years. In about the last 50 to 60 years the U.S. has funded and otherwise helped various Philippine governments which sought to suppress the activities of groups working for the welfare of its people. In 1969 the Symington Committee in the U.S. Congress revealed how war material was sent there for a counter-insurgency campaign. U.S. Special Forces and Marines were active in some combat operations. The estimated number of persons that were executed and disappeared under President Fernando Marcos was over 100,000. (1,2)

South America: Operation Condor

This was a joint operation of 6 despotic South American governments (Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay) to share information about their political opponents. An estimated 13,000 people were killed under this plan. (1)

It was established on November 25, 1975 in Chile by an act of the Interamerican Reunion on Military Intelligence. According to U.S. embassy political officer, John Tipton, the CIA and the Chilean Secret Police were working together, although the CIA did not set up the operation to make this collaboration work. Reportedly, it ended in 1983. (2)

On March 6, 2001 the New York Times reported the existence of a recently declassified State Department document revealing that the United States facilitated communications for Operation Condor. (3)

Sudan

Since 1955, when it gained its independence, Sudan has been involved most of the time in a civil war. Until about 2003 approximately 2 million people had been killed. It not known if the death toll in Darfur is part of that total.

Human rights groups have complained that U.S. policies have helped to prolong the Sudanese civil war by supporting efforts to overthrow the central government in Khartoum. In 1999 U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright met with the leader of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) who said that she offered him food supplies if he would reject a peace plan sponsored by Egypt and Libya.

In 1978 the vastness of Sudan’s oil reservers was discovered and within two years it became the sixth largest recipient of U.S, military aid. It’s reasonable to assume that if the U.S. aid a government to come to power it will feel obligated to give the U.S. part of the oil pie.

A British group, Christian Aid, has accused foreign oil companies of complicity in the depopulation of villages. These companies – not American – receive government protection and in turn allow the government use of its airstrips and roads.

In August 1998 the U.S. bombed Khartoum, Sudan with 75 cruise míssiles. Our government said that the target was a chemical weapons factory owned by Osama bin Laden. Actually, bin Laden was no longer the owner, and the plant had been the sole supplier of pharmaceutical supplies for that poor nation. As a result of the bombing tens of thousands may have died because of the lack of medicines to treat malaria, tuberculosis and other diseases. The U.S. settled a lawsuit filed by the factory’s owner. (1,2)

Uruguay: See South America: Operation Condor

Vietnam

In Vietnam, under an agreement several decades ago, there was supposed to be an election for a unified North and South Vietnam. The U.S. opposed this and supported the Diem government in South Vietnam. In August, 1964 the CIA and others helped fabricate a phony Vietnamese attack on a U.S. ship in the Gulf of Tonkin and this was used as a pretext for greater U.S. involvement in Vietnam. (1)

During that war an American assassination operation,called Operation Phoenix, terrorized the South Vietnamese people, and during the war American troops were responsible in 1968 for the mass slaughter of the people in the village of My Lai.

According to a Vietnamese government statement in 1995 the number of deaths of civilians and military personnel during the Vietnam War was 5.1 million. (2)

Since deaths in Cambodia and Laos were about 2.7 million (See Cambodia and Laos) the estimated total for the Vietnam War is 7.8 million.

The Virtual Truth Commission provides a total for the war of 5 million, (3) and Robert McNamara, former Secretary Defense, according to the New York Times Magazine says that the number of Vietnamese dead is 3.4 million. (4,5)

Yugoslavia

Yugoslavia was a socialist federation of several republics. Since it refused to be closely tied to the Soviet Union during the Cold War, it gained some suport from the U.S. But when the Soviet Union dissolved, Yugoslavia’s usefulness to the U.S. ended, and the U.S and Germany worked to convert its socialist economy to a capitalist one by a process primarily of dividing and conquering. There were ethnic and religious differences between various parts of Yugoslavia which were manipulated by the U.S. to cause several wars which resulted in the dissolution of that country.

From the early 1990s until now Yugoslavia split into several independent nations whose lowered income, along with CIA connivance, has made it a pawn in the hands of capitalist countries. (1) The dissolution of Yugoslavia was caused primarily by the U.S. (2)

Here are estimates of some, if not all, of the internal wars in Yugoslavia. All wars: 107,000; (3,4)

Bosnia and Krajina: 250,000; (5) Bosnia: 20,000 to 30,000; (5) Croatia: 15,000; (6) and

Kosovo: 500 to 5,000. (7)

 http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-i...

Funny how much "Conservatives" seem to hate America.

FUCK OFF JEDHEAD = YOU SUCK !

Dead2, did you read that hat whole thing?

The left cares about the Muslims

Hates the Jews

and Ignores the Christians

The ban on Muslims is for one purpose only..to protect Americans.

the leftists are will to take a chance and hope none of the refugees are terrorists..

but some are terrorists..but the left is willing to sacrifice a few Americans for the "cause"

the "cause" being votes, money and power.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/01/29/aclu-fundraising-re...

Wait, how can the Left hate the Jews when it is run by Jews? The hey must be the self-loathing ones, huh?

They were definitely self-loathing. They just don't know it.

300 protesters at the Pensacola, FL airport. 

Nothing short of amazing.

Then, it is a military town, Naval aviation.

Dumb Donald didn't think it thru that this order is affecting many with ties to the military. .

Maybe he should bring the generals back to the NSC meetings and stop listening to Bannon the boneless. 

Muslim ban 

Christian secret

Mormon dial

Zoroastrian old spice

The ACLU received over 24 million dollars in donations over the weekend. 

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/30/news/aclu-online-donations/index.html

Obama Suspended Iraq Refugee Program for Six Months Over Terrorism Fears in 2011

In 2013, ABC News first revealed that two years earlier, the State Department had imposed a freeze over the processing of Iraqi refugees for six months. The halt was the result of the discovery of two al-Qaida members admitted as refugees from Iraq who were living in Bowling Green, Kentucky and who had admitted to targeting U.S. troops in Iraq.

The network also cited FBI agents conceding that “several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees.”

ABC News reported on the six month refugee freeze (emphasis added):

As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/01/29/flashback-obama-2011-suspe...

90 Day Ban

 >>>>>He will fail because he cannot corrupt the courts

He will appoint at least 2 SCOTUS judges. Dunno if you call that corrupting, but the results will be with us for a long time - maybe 40 years or so..

Breitbart?  Really.  Why would Steve Bannon make anything up about this?  

What happened under Obama had nothing to do with Muslims.  The process for entry was made stricter and created a backlog while applications were processed and in some cases reprocessed.

Let us know when he feeds you a new talking point because this one is comparing oranges and something that's not a fruit.

the eu, canada, japan, australia and all our allies should ban the trump family, not americans, but every single member of the trump family, until this bullshit gets reversed.

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/825837257600925696

Sourcing Bannon the Boneless is very funny. 

Some questions from Jennifer Rubin of the Post:   https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/01/30/the-right-splits-and-the-nature-of-our-democracy-is-up-for-grabs

...

Was the order vetted through applicable departments (Justice, Homeland Security, State) and if so, did they approve?

Did Bannon override those who said it should not apply to green-card holders (only to be overruled himself when all hell broke loose)?

Rather than just give tepid criticism for its incompetent implementation (which makes the healthcare.gov website rollout look brilliant), will Congress move to reverse it by legislation?

Did we vet the plan with allies, and if so, what was their reaction?

Is it mere coincidence that  Trump has business interests in countries not on the list from which terrorists actually do come?

Did the Holocaust statement (issued on the same day as the executive order) which left out mention of Jews, and thereby aped the lingo of Holocaust deniers, come from the same campaign operative(s) who dabbled in anti-Semitic symbols during the campaign? Since Reince Priebus and other Trump aides confirmed that the wording intentionally omitted that Jews were the target of Hitler’s genocide, do we conclude the administration is rife with anti-Semitic sentiment — or merely ignorant to a degree we have not seen in a modern president?

Does the inclusion of pro-Russia political operatives and the removal of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the director of national intelligence from the permanent National Security Council roster signal the that matters of national security are subservient to the raw political calculation of someone who cheers nationalist right-wing parties in Europe aligned with Russia?

When is Congress going to demand a full accounting of Trump’s finances to determine if these erratic, damaging national security moves are related to his own financial self-interest?

Obama administration originally flagged 7 countries in Trump's order

in February of 2016, the Obama Administration added Libya, Yemen, and Somalia to a list of "countries of concern," which placed some restrictions on Visa Waiver Program travel on those who had visited the countries after March 1, 2011.

Iran, Syria, Iraq and Sudan were already on the list from the administration's original law in 2015.

Spicer said on Sunday there are many other Muslim-majority countries not included in the ban.

Why are you taking about unrelated Obama stuff?

trump nonsense equates to dow -180 today.

this is gonna be one hell of a ride

Hey Dead2, read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps-fa...

>>>>>Spicer said on Sunday there are many other Muslim-majority countries not included in the ban.

the ones where trump has businesses

Go Washington state!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/washington-state-sues-trump-over-...

Derp Derp

Hey Zooey- the Governor and attorneys general of PA basically said the same- All are welcome and they will fight the feds on this. Apparently there are 16 or so states who agree. Yay! States Rights! Yay human rights!

Do Trumpkins need to sell their F-150s now?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2017/01/30/ford-dec...

Dead2 with a 37 nation manifesto. Can you say he's the UnaTrumper!

Hey Dead2, read this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/29/trumps- >>>

The Washington Post is not news..

its part of the left wing propaganda machine.

Do not believe a word.

Might do you some good to use a source besides Breitbart if you don't like propaganda. 

Ford’s top executives slam Trump travel ban >>

What does Chevy think?

What about Dodge?

how pathetic

who the fuck cares what Ford thinks about American security concerns besides the loons on the left?

^he does Tim, I've also seen him cite Russia Today

Loons you say? 

What's Looney is appointing the racist propaganda Minister, the mouthpiece for white nationalists,  Steve Bannon  to the national security council. 

You like this decision, Dead2? 

Steve Bannon the american version of Joeseph Goebbels. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

Nanc, i was thinking the same thing, haliburton is a drop in the bucket compared to all the crap trump has going on, and Cheney was never dumb enough to say we are taking the Oil.

^^I was afraid that I would read that in writing sooner or later.  Unbelievable...

"The acting Attorney General Sally Yates has told Justice Department lawyers not to make legal arguments defending President Donald Trump's executive order on immigration and refugees, according to sources familiar with the order...."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-immigration-order-de...

How long until she's fired?

She is an Obama holdover and a short timer - until Sessions (or hopefully someone else) is confirmed.

Nevertheless, clearly she made the right decision to not defend the EO.

>Bannon is making Cheney look good

He's Karl Rove and Dick Cheney rolled into one

Sally Q. Yates 2020 

(if there is a 2020)

I was told to go to the 1 hour 16 minute mark:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?324983-1/confirmation-hearing-deputy-attor...

Fight at the airport:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ayYWx7gGqQ#incart_gallery

Noah Garfinkel ‏@NoahGarfinkel 3h3 hours ago

I was always against comparing people to nazis, but only because I thought it was important to save it for a time like this. Let's go nuts

Iran bans American wrestling team.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-bans-travel-us-wrestl...

Poor babies

take your medicine

its for your own good

The first poll of American public opinion conducted after the Trump administration issued a ban on immigration and travel from seven majority-Muslim countries finds a plurality of support for the move. 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/31/reuters_ipsos_muslim_b...

Plurality favor Trump’s Muslim ban in new poll

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/262763-plurality-favor-...

Louvre terror attack: Egyptian man, 'who arrived in France in January' shot five times after attacking soldier with machete

Maybe President Trump shpould include Egypt in this temporary ban

^Why didn't he, Dead2?

Now, if France only had an NRA, that terrorist could've more easliy acquired an assault rifle, right?

 if France only had an NRA, that terrorist could've more easliy acquired an assault rifle, right?>>

France has very strict gun laws.

Twice this year, Parisians have witnessed attackers armed with high-powered assault weapons—the kind outlawed in France—run down Paris’s grand boulevards and unleash a bloodbath upon the City of Light

The fear and confusion after January’s Charlie Hebdo attacks over how military-grade weapons made their way into the French capital has only worsened since the massacre on Nov. 13 carried out by ISIS supporters, which left 130 dead and injured some 350 more.

So the terrorists have the guns

and the citizens have nothing to defend themselves..

that does not seem like the strict gun laws are out so well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/14/upshot/compare-these-gun-death-rates-...

The mass shooting in Orlando on Sunday was appalling in scale: 49 killed in a single attack. But it’s not unusual for dozens of Americans to be killed by guns in a single day.

Gun homicides are a common cause of death in the United States, killing about as many people as car crashes...

...

International comparisons help highlight how exceptional the United States is: In a nation where the right to bear arms is cherished by much of the population, gun homicides are a significant public health concern. For men 15 to 29, they are the third-leading cause of death, after accidents and suicides. In other high-income countries, gun homicides are unusual events. Last year’s Paris attacks killed 130 people, which is nearly as many as die from gun homicides in all of France in a typical year. But even if France had a mass shooting as deadly as the Paris attacks every month, its annual rate of gun homicide death would be lower than that in the United States.

...

We focused on the rates of gun homicides; the overall rate of gun deaths is substantially higher, because suicides make up a majority of gun deaths in the United States and are also higher than in other developed countries.

The rate of gun violence in the United States is not the highest in the world. In parts of Central America, Africa and the Middle East, the gun death rates are even higher...But the countries with those levels of gun violence are not like the United States in many other ways, including G.D.P., life expectancy and education. Among developed democracies, the United States is an outlier.

An estimated 700,000 Christians have fled Syria since the start of the civil war in 2011. Parts of the country have been claimed by Isis. Christians are often abducted and killed.

There are few Christian believers in Afghanistan, where Christianity is seen as a western religion. Those that exist must keep their faith secret or risk being rejected by their families, or even killed. There are no churches except for secret ones. While Afghan Christians are at greatest risk, foreigners are also in danger. In 2014, several Christian aid workers were killed in the country.

Converting from Islam to another religion is punishable by death. Sudan also has blasphemy laws under which many Christians have been imprisoned. There are reports that the government has attacked Christians with targeted bombings, and turned a blind eye to the killings of Christians by others.

Christians in Pakistan are often treated as second-class citizens. Christian women and children can be the targets of sexual abuse; blasphemy laws are abused to attack followers; and churches are monitored and sometimes attacked.

Since Boko Haram came to prominence, thousands of Christians have been abducted or killed. Thousands more have also been killed by Hausa-Fulani Muslim herdsmen. In the north of the country, Christians are treated as second-class citizens, and there are reports of children not being allowed to attend school and of Christian villages being denied clean water and access to healthcare.

Most Christians in Saudi Arabia are migrants. There are a few Muslim-born Christians, and conversion from Islam is punishable by death. Church buildings are forbidden and so Christians meet in house churches, which are frequently raided. Christians may be arrested, imprisoned, tortured and deported for their faith.

Migrant workers are allowed to maintain churches, but converts from Islam risk being killed if their new religion becomes known. Evangelism is illegal, as is taking Bibles in Arabic into the country, and there are reports of violence against Christians being carried out with impunity.

Yemeni Christians must keep their faith a secret. Tribal leaders in the country often punish people who wish to leave Islam, and al-Qaida, which is active in the country, has been known to kidnap and kill Yemeni Christians.

 ..

Dear Dead 2

Your leader hero is a liar.  He has the maturity of a 3 year old. He lusts after his own daughter. He is inarticulate and unintelligent. Tell us again why you admire him. 

'Gross injustice': Of 10,000 Syrian refugees to the US, 56 are Christian

Of the 10,801 refugees accepted in fiscal 2016 from the war-torn country, 56 are Christians, or .5 percent.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/02/gross-injustice-10000-syrian-...

1,037 Syrian Refugees Admitted in May: Two Christians, 1,035 Muslims

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/1037-syrian-refug...

THE U.S. BARS CHRISTIAN, NOT MUSLIM, REFUGEES FROM SYRIA

The United States has accepted 10,801 Syrian refugees, of whom 56 are Christian.  ; 56 total, out of 10,801. That is to say, one-half of 1 percent.

http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494

On February 3, 2016, the European Union recognized the persecution of Christians by Islamic State in Syria as genocide.[15][16][17][18] The vote was unanimous. The United States followed suit on March 15, 2016, in declaring these atrocities as genocide.[19] The vote was unanimous.[20] On April 20, 2016, British Parliament voted unanimously to denounce the actions as genocide.[21] A similar motion however failed in Canada when it was opposed by the majority of PM

Crucified and beheaded - Christians slaughtered for refusing Islam

2011, Christians in Syria 1.25 Million; 2016, Christians in Syria Less Than 500,000

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/2011-christians-sy...

Deaddead, read about what the xtians did to jews and muslims during the middle ages.

Crimes of christians during indigenous genocide of the colonization era, during the slavery era.

Mote in neighbor's eye, beam in yours, etc.

Stop cutting and pasting and use your own words. Go ahead and defend anything I accused Trump of. I don't think you can. 

Muslim Countries Refuse to Take A Single Syrian Refugee, Cite Risk of Exposure to Terrorism

Revealed: How the five wealthiest Gulf Nations have so far refused to take a single Syrian refugee

Four million Syrians have fled, most live in Middle Eastern refugee camps

More than 30,000 have risked their lives to reach European shores in 2015

Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain have resettled 'zero' refugees

Amnesty International described their inaction in the crisis as 'shameful' 

Gulf nations argue that accepting large numbers of Syrian refugees is a serious threat to the safety of its citizens because terrorists could hide themselves among civilians.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222405/How-six-wealthiest-Gulf-...
 

BTW - one of your cut and paste articles was written by Elliott Abrams; a convicted Regan era neoconservative warmonger. Awesome. 

Nations that have previously taken in Muslim immigrants have finally had enough and have either begun deporting them in high numbers as in Sweden, Finland, and Norway (1) or shutting down the borders to any more as in Lebanon and Jordan (2).

There are other countries in the world that already knew that taking in Muslims will only lead to rape, violence and terror and so have taken in zero refugees (3). Before any of my readers cry "Islamophobia!" or "Bigotry!" let me suggest that they first read the list and notice that among them are Muslim countries themselves. Their leaders are just not as stupid as ours and know that terrorists will definitely sneak in.

So here for your reading pleasure is a List of 13 Countries Smart Enough to Refuse to Take in Muslim Refugees:

Lebanon

Shut her borders to Syrians in June of 2014.

Jordan

Shut her borders to refugees in August 2014.

Saudi Arabia

Did not and will not take a single refugee because of a threat to her safety, as terrorists could be hiding within.

Bahrain

Ditto.

United Arab Emirates

Ditto.

Qatar

Ditto.

Kuwait

Ditto.

Oman

Ditto.

Poland

After the Paris attacks, Poland said, "Wait a minute. Forget about taking in refugees." (4)

Turkey

Turkey has ended its open door policy of admitting Syrian refugees (5).

Hungary

Hungarian soldiers last autumn sealed her border with barbed wire (6).

Egypt

By refusing to issue visas, Egypt effectively closes it borders (7) to Syrian refugees.

Slovakia

Slovakia is OK taking in Syrians - as long as they're not Muslim (8)..

Obama was violating the constitution and banning a religious group from America.>>

THE U.S. BARS CHRISTIAN, NOT MUSLIM, REFUGEES FROM SYRIA

The United States has accepted 10,801 Syrian refugees, of whom 56 are Christian.  ; 56 total, out of 10,801. That is to say, one-half of 1 percent.

There's some good zoners and a load of Dead2 bat-shit crazy up in this thread.

Here's what the CIA website has to say about the general population of Syria:

Muslim 87% (official; includes Sunni 74% and Alawi, Ismaili, and Shia 13%), Christian 10% (includes Orthodox, Uniate, and Nestorian), Druze 3%, Jewish (few remaining in Damascus and Aleppo)

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.html

This is an interesting chart:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.html

Organizer For DC Women’s March, Linda Sarsour Is Pro Sharia Law with Ties To Hamas

Approximately 200,000 people participated in a ‘Women’s March’ in D.C. on Saturday. One of the organizers of the march, Linda Sarsour is a Pro-Palestine Muslim activist.  

She also advocates for Sharia Law in America and has ties to terrorist organization, Hamas.

Linda Sarsour is very vocal about her support for Palestine and her utter hatred for Israel. She has ties to the terrorist organization, Hamas as the Daily Caller reports:

Linda Sarsour, one of the organizers behind Saturday’s Women’s March, being held in Washington, D.C., was recently spotted at a large Muslim convention in Chicago posing for pictures with an accused financier for Hamas, the terrorist group.

Sarsour, the head of the Arab American Association of New York and an Obama White House “Champion of Change,” was speaking at last month’s 15th annual convention of the Muslim American Society and Islamic Circle of North America.

While there, she posed for a picture with Salah Sarsour, a member of the Islamic Society of Milwaukee and former Hamas operative who was jailed in Israel in the 1990s because of his alleged work for the terrorist group.

Linda Sarsour is very active on Twitter. She is pro Sharia law and a couple of her tweets even have a seditious tone to them where she romanticizes Sharia law and hints at it taking over America whereby we would have interest free loans.

The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Women’s March is laughable at best. Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day. Islamic supremacists who wish to impose Sharia law in America have infiltrated various leftist movements in order to appear as an oppressed minority.

Here is bizarre tweet from Maya Shwayder who is a correspondent for the Jerusalem Post in New York…is she really celebrating a Hijab? Wearing an American flag as a Hijab also goes against the U.S. Flag Code.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/figrues-organizer-dc-womens-marc...

'Defender of Sharia'

'Defender of Sharia': Ayaan Hirsi Ali Slams Women's March Organizer

On "The First 100 Days" tonight, women's rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali reacted to a recently resurfaced tweet written by an organizer for last month's Women's March, which disparaged Ali and another activist.

Linda Sarsour, of the Arab American Association of New York, tweeted in 2011 that Ali and Brigitte Gabriel should be assaulted and that she wished she could remove their private parts because they "don't deserve to be women."

Ali, a victim of genital mutilation while living in Somalia, blasted Sarsour as a "fake feminist" who is not interested in universal human rights.

"She is a defender of Sharia law," Ali said, "No principle degrades and dehumanizes women more than Sharia law."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/01/ayaan-hirsi-ali-slams-womens-march...

Where are anti-Trump marchers defending women against abuse by Sharia-adherent Muslims?

Women under Sharia Law – The Dilemma of “Wife Beating Protocol”

The Quran is the source of all personal status laws in Islamic countries. Therefore, the rules of religious jurisprudence concerning the position and treatment of women are also based on the Quran. In order to fully understand the position of women in Islam, one must first examine the Quranic rules concerning them. Our dilemma in today’s article has to do with the Quranic command for husbands to beat their wives.

A. Man’s Supreme Authority

The Quran gives a man complete authority in marriage: “Men stand superior to women…” (Q 4.34). The Quran justifies giving this authority to the man for the following reasons:

First, preference is given to him by the nature of his physical ability: “God hath preferred some of them over others…” (Q 4.34).

Second, preference is given to him by reason of his financial ability: “and in that they expend of their wealth…” (Q 4.34).

Apparently this higher position of man does not change even if “a woman has enough money to support herself without needing him to spend money on her, or even if she has so much money that she can spend it on him.”15 This preference is because a man has authority over a woman according to the Quran, the ultimate source of Sharia Law, regardless of his or her economic situation.

The leading authorities of Islam state that this ruling of the Quran is an everlasting one as reported by al-Aqqad:

“It precedes the development of civilizations and general legislations and remains past them.”

B. Wife’s Relationship to Husband

In Islam, the wife is a slave to her husband. The Islamic traditions stress that a woman should obey her husband’s commands. The story is told of a man who ordered his wife not to leave the house while he was traveling. During his absence, her father became ill, so she sent to the prophet of Islam asking for permission to go to her father. The response she received was: “Obey your husband.” Her father died, so she then requested permission to go see her father’s body before burial. Again the response was: “Obey your husband.”  When her father was buried, the prophet sent her a message saying, “Allah [god] has forgiven her father because of her obedience to her husband.” In other words, once married, the woman’s complete emotional and intellectual abilities belong to her husband.

In addition to absolute obedience, a woman should revere her husband because Islam teaches that, “If a woman knew the right of a husband, she would not sit at his lunch and supper time until he finishes.” One time, a woman came to the prophet of Islam to ask about her obligations to her husband. He said, “If he had pus from his hair part to his foot [from head to toe] and you licked him, you would not have shown him enough gratitude.”

Obedience and reverence towards her husband are two of the wife’s duties. These duties form an element of worship for her. As the prophet of Islam once said, “If a woman prays her five prayers, fasts the month of fasting, keeps her chastity, and obeys her husband, she will enter the paradise of her Lord.” In addition, Allah will not accept the prayer of a woman if her husband is angry with her.

C. Husband’s Right to Punish His Wife

The Quran gives the husband the right to punish his wife if she goes outside the parameters that he draws for her. It provides men with instructions: “But those whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into bed-chambers and beat them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them...” (Q 4.34).

In fact, in reading the verse above one will notice that these instructions were given to the husband concerning a wife whom he ONLY fears disloyalty, not a wife that actually committed a disloyal act. These instructions include the following step-by-step process:

1. Instructing

At the beginning of marriage, a husband reminds his wife about the rights that are given to him by Sharia Law. He can say to her, “Fear Allah! I have rights due to me from you. Repent from what you are doing. Know that obedience to me is one of your obligations.” If the wife refuses to fulfill the sexual desires of her husband, then he should remind her of his rights over her body.

2. Sexual Abandonment

The Arabic word used in the verse to describe abandonment (hajr) on the part of the husband can carry multiple meanings:

• Desertion

If a wife remains “disobedient,” her husband should ignore her. This means he abstains from sexual intercourse with her as part of this phase of punishment.

• Forced Sexual Intercourse (“tightening the bindings”)

While the word hajr is interpreted to mean “to refuse to share their beds,” the word hajr has several meanings. One of these meanings indicates the hajr of the camel when the owner binds the animal with a hijar, or rope. This disturbing interpretation means that the term used in Q 4.34 (“refuse to share their beds”) can actually mean to bind the wife and force her to have sexual intercourse.

This meaning is the adopted view of al-Tabari, a renowned classical Islamic commentator. Other scholars, who also support this interpretation, state “it means to tie them up and force them to have [sexual] intercourse.”

The Quranic principle of a man’s right to a woman’s body is not open for discussion. Regardless of her psychological or physical state, she has to obey the man’s command to lie in bed and have sexual relations with him. After all, the prophet of Islam repeatedly made statements advocating this view:

“If a man calls his woman to his bed, and she does not come, and then he goes to bed angry at her, the angels will curse her until the morning.”

3. Beating

If the previous methods, including instruction and verbal abuse, fail to correct a wife’s behavior, then a husband is given the right to beat his wife. Even though verse Q 4.34 does not specify the mode or limit of the beating, it is believed that the prophet of Islam put a condition on the beating, classifying it as “not excessive.” As a result, when interpreting the phrase “not excessive beating,” scholars offer the following guidelines:

• Avoid hitting the wife’s face.

• Do not break any of the wife’s bones.

• Use nonfatal implements or physical force:

° Such as the use of al-siwak (a twig of the Salvadora persica tree), or shoe laces, etc.

° and the use of hand, etc. [hitting, slapping, punching the neck and chest, etc.]

The wife may receive a beating for every behavior that incites the anger of her husband or for every act that her husband does not like. Current Islamic literature supports the legitimacy of beating and its benefit for “upbringing.”

For example, the Egyptian scholar Muhammad Mitwalli al-Sha‘rawi (AD 1911-1998), who was considered among the top Muslim thinkers in the twentieth century, records his position:

Beating is not a sign of hatred. It could be a sign of love. As long as it is not excessive, it would only cause a small amount of pain. A person might resort to lightly beating the loved one due to desiring what is in the person’s [best] interests and due to caring about the person. A woman, by her very nature, understands that, coming from her husband. She knows that his anger at her and his punishing her…will soon pass away and with its passing, its causes will pass. Therefore, they remain in their relationship as if nothing happened.

Conclusion

Ironically, Islamic literature claims that Islam as a religion has improved the position of women and is the only religious doctrine that honors women. History shows that Islam did accomplish some limited advancement in the position of women during the seventh century in certain aspects such as, limiting the number of wives to four in comparison to the practices during that era in the Arabian Peninsula. Conversely, many of the changes implemented by Islam were not positive. The Quran permits men to beat their wives, making domestic abuse a divinely permissible act rather than just an individual behavior.

It is worthy to note that in various ancient societies and throughout human history, women have lived under the oppression of social injustice. However, our dilemma, when it comes to the position of women in Islam, stems from the fact that Islam is seen as the final religion and source of law by its followers. Hence, the position of women is fixed, and rulings, such as the beating of a wife, must remain in place as specified by the Quran. Though in modern society a woman may work and share in the financial burdens of life, she will still be deprived of equality because the Quran commands it so. Overall, the Quranic rules regarding the treatment of women can still be used today as tools of oppression in the hand of the Muslim man. Any effort she exerts other than that is of no value.”

http://thequrandilemma.com/uncategorized/women-under-sharia-law-the-dile...

poor lefties

very confused 

• Avoid hitting the wife’s face.

• Do not break any of the wife’s bones.

• Use nonfatal implements or physical force:

° Such as the use of al-siwak (a twig of the Salvadora persica tree), or shoe laces, etc.

° and the use of hand, etc. [hitting, slapping, punching the neck and chest, etc.].

Maybe Muslim women who choose to wear burkas can find common ground with some Trump supporters who also choose to cover themselves...

Linda Sarsour is a principal organizer for Woman’s March on Washington following President Donald Trump’s inauguration.

Her rise to liberal stardom following the march has occurred in spite of her support for anti-feminist views and outrageous attacks on anti-Sharia women leaders.

Sarsour, who serves as the executive director of the Arab American Association of New York (AAANY) and who was honored by former-President Obama’s White House as a “champion of change,” seems as if she makes it a point to attach herself to every social justice cause known to man and tie it to Palestine. For example, in November, she attached herself to the cause of blocking Dakota Access Pipeline and made sure to bring her Palestinian flag.

This shameless promotion could also be seen at the Women’s March as well. When addressing the crowd, she made sure to inject some Palestinian solidarity into the cause, stating “you can count on [her], your Palestinian Muslim sister to keep her voice loud.” She also made sure to note that she was her “Palestinian grandmother’s who lives in occupied territory wildest dream.”

However, her biggest splash that weekend was when the level of her hypocrisy towards the cause espoused by the Woman’s March was pointed out to the public.

Specifically, a tweet of Sarsour’s dismissing the misogynistic views of Saudi Arabia simply because the country has a paid maternity leave program, has been making the rounds on social media.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/03/vanness-linda-sars...

so violent

so confused

Dead2, check out the Jerusalem Post article I posted in politics folder regarding Sarsour.  Still plenty for you to object to without embarrassing yourself by posting articles from right wing propaganda outlets like Breitbart.

Dear Dead 2

Go for a walk. 

Find some beauty. 

Take it in. 

And if you are really so concerned about women, go volunteer at a shelter today and tomorrow as I believe that Super Bowl Sunday has the highest rate of domestic violence for any given Sunday. 

Turns out that the Super Bowl Sunday /domestic violence connection is not true. That doesn't mean that American women aren't suffering from domestic violence. It just isn't worse today. 

>>>>>But let's pick on one Mulim woman out of the millions in the resistance movement

yeah, quit picking on "the resistance." 

The fact that an Islamic faction was one of the organizers of the Women’s March is laughable at best. Islam is responsible for the worst abuses of women and children not only throughout history, but at present day. Islamic supremacists who wish to impose Sharia law in America have infiltrated various leftist movements in order to appear as an oppressed minority.

One of the main organizers of the woman march is a proponent of Sharia Law..

These women put on silly hats and march for Sharia..

One two three

what are they marching for?

don't ask them

they don't give a damn

Just angry hostile people marching for something..for whatever..doesn't really matter

these marches really aren't marches

iits a  parade..a hate parade..with hats.