Or is it the other way around?
how many boring ass albums r they gonna make together?
I'm sure there aren't a lot of big fans of any of them around these parts and I admittedly can't stand at least 2 out of 3 of them but are these collaborative efforts actually good for any of their music or careers?
is she finally acting her age?
has her fan base grown into this sound?
Is pandemic life partly responsible for this?
I haven't heard the latest album yet but what's the deal?
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on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 08:06 pm
might be she is the Bob Dylan
might be she is the Bob Dylan of this age and our biased ears just won't listen "You kids get off my ...."
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on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 08:35 pm
where's lord henry?
where's lord henry?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Furious E O1>11
on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 08:44 pm
I heard a rumor that he had
I heard a rumor that he had relocated to the Los Angeles area.
Wish he was here, I'd appreciate his take on this subject matter
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 09:06 pm
Didn't Bobby do some really
Didn't Bobby do some really boring stuff with the National too?
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on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 09:12 pm
I'm not positive if Weir has
I'm not positive if Weir has worked with them (him?) but asking if a collaboration with the national was boring is a little redundant, if they (he?) were part of said collaboration then the stuff was most likely boring
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on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 09:28 pm
bobby is boring
bobby is boring
"gasp....."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 09:30 pm
The National backed Bobby on
The National backed Bobby on some tracks off of his Cowboy album. Talk about boring...
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on Saturday, December 12, 2020 – 10:05 pm
>>>Might be she is the Bob
>>>Might be she is the Bob Dylan of this age
no, that was Ryan adams and just look at him now.
He covered a Taylor Swift album and is an alleged sexual predator/abuser.
meanwhile the actual Dylan sold out to universal.
I'm starting to wonder if in order to build a better tomorrow we might need to start by acknowledging that everything pretty much sucks today
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 08:44 am
The National was Bob's back
The National was Bob's back up band at Hardly Strictly one year. It was actually a fun day.
NRPS>Hot Tuna>Bob Weir all on the same stage(it was nice to stay put rather than trudging through the crowd to get shitty spot at the next stage)
I normally don't drink whiskey but the bottle was passed around our group that day
So by the time Weir broke into Led Zep's Kashmir I was in a receptive mood
Couldn't help thinking that there's no way Zepplin would cover a Dead song.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 09:03 am
I found it odd that at the
I found it odd that at the age of 79 Dylan decided to sell his catalogue. Maybe he had some kind of debts we don't know about.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 09:59 am
^more likely the decided that giving money to his heirs was preferable to giving them the publishing rights to catalog.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:12 am
He already had a lot of money
He already had a lot of money to give them. It was just greed. All good, I guess.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:20 am
It's his catalog to do what
It's his catalog to do what the hell he wants with. How is it greedy for him to sell it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:25 am
300 mil.....
300 mil.....
Not greed? He can do what he wants. I just find it odd.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:33 am
Funny, I thought that $300
Funny, I thought that $300 million was a low number for his entire catalog.
Would it have been less greedy of him to sell it for $50 million, knowing that the buyer would make $500 million off it?
Again, how is it greedy? It's his art to sell. He didn't step on the little man to create it. He isn't taking away from anyone. You have no idea what he plans to do with his proceeds.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:38 am
He was already at an
He was already at an estimated 200 mil in worth. Maybe you need to look up the definition for "greed". It doesn't matter if it were his or not. It's still greed. Look it up.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:42 am
So, someone selling their
So, someone selling their life's work for a fair market value is greed? What should he have sold it for?
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:45 am
Taylor Swift is much prettier
Taylor Swift is much prettier than Bob Dylan. That's got to count for something.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:46 am
greed
greed
/ɡrēd/
noun
intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.
"mercenaries who had allowed greed to overtake their principles"
Dishonest banks who give people mortgages that the banks know they cannot afford just so the bank can make money and foreclosure on the house.
Dishonest credit card companies that set up a system of changing payment dates without making it obvious to customers to encourage defaults so that very high interest rates can be charged.
Dishonest companies that take government bailouts and then give multi-million dollar bonuses to executives that ran the company into the ground.
Dishonest people like Bernie Madoff who set up pyramid
schemes to steal money from investors.
Dishonest banks that set up a scheme to cash larger checks first so that people bounce many smaller checks and are subject to large per check penalty fees as a result.
Dylan's sale didn't fit the definition of greed, nor could it be used as an example of such. Conversely, Led Zeppelin stealing someone's song, making a mint off it, and then fighting them in court is "greedy."
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:50 am
>He already had a lot of money to give them. It was just greed. All good, I guess<
The publishing rights to his catalog was still part of his estate, he could leave his heirs the job of managing the catalog, or just divide up the cash... cash is easier.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:50 am
^2.9
^^2.9
You're losing it, bud. He did it for an extreme amount of wealth. Anyways, I'm sure you can find someone else to argue with on the inter webs today, BK. Have a good one.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:57 am
You told me to look it up. I
You told me to look it up. I did. It showed that you're a dope. No sweat off my balls, kid. Not on the melt scale at all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 11:01 am
Worth 200 mil> 300 mil>
Worth 200 mil> Sells something for 300 mil> Selfish desire for wealth
Your last babbling post incorrectly trying to redefine "greed" >meltdown.
You not being able to understand simple words and still act like a stubborn little baby > priceless
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 11:04 am
I didn't redefine it. I
I didn't redefine it. I copied and pasted the definition and examples from the dictionary. Lol
I think that your crying for again being wrong is the melt. But hey, you do you.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 11:06 am
Every time you resort to
Every time you resort to calling names you're melting.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 11:21 am
Do You kids think that Timpy
Do You kids think that Timpy has any hobbies?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 11:50 am
> Every time you resort to
> Every time you resort to calling names you're melting.
BK is right. Name calling is a clear indicator of a melt, but it's also a tacit acknowledgment that your argument is failing.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 01:33 pm
Nonsense.
Nonsense.
"Gregulator is a fuckwit" kinda shoots that theory down.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 01:47 pm
Also. The recent spate of
Also. The recent spate of catalog sales is about capital gains taxes and how to potentially minimize them.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 02:07 pm
>>>>how many boring ass
>>>>how many boring ass albums r they gonna make together?................I haven't heard the latest album yet but what's the deal?
Well, then how do you know if it's boring-ass? Do you miss her pop? Both albums had rave reviews and I think it's great that she reinvented herself. I'm intrigued as to what she does next and ...to your last point.... I don't even listen to her music.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 03:05 pm
BK doesn't know what "melting
BK doesn't know what "melting" means either. Guy has been running around on the zone calling people names all day lol. Fucking old lames can dish it out but can't take it in.
Time to change your shitbag. Getting pretty full
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 03:27 pm
Were you diagnosed with
Were you diagnosed with Oppositional Defiance Disorder as a child? Under-developed executive functioning?
I do know what a melt is. Your last post pretty much exemplifies one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 03:51 pm
I do know what a melt is>>
I do know what a melt is>>
I really don't think you do. It's all good man. You're zoning just still in need of some work.
Threads about ass cleaning are the best you have to offer right now. Just sayin
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:17 pm
I thought about why Dylan
I thought about why Dylan sold it too. The only thing I could come up with is that he didn't want his heirs to have to deal with the negative press of selling his songs. All the Dylan would be rolling in his grave shit that would have happened when the inevitable ads start to run. Now the decision is on Dylan and the heirs get to just enjoy the money. Or he saw a house he wanted to buy and needed the money.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:23 pm
So, back to my original
So, back to my original question, Timpy, what should he have done with his catalog? You called him greedy. Give an alternative that would pay him fair value but wouldn't be greedy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:50 pm
Again, I found it odd that he
Again, I found it odd that he sold it. He doesn't need the money and most likely his music will now be featured and prostituted all over the commercial trash world. It's his shit he can do what he wants, but now you'll prob hear his music in some terrible Disney shows and stuff like that.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:54 pm
You can protest by not
You can protest by not consuming terrible Disney shows and stuff like that.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:56 pm
I guess I stopped noticing.
I guess I stopped noticing. Aren't Dylan songs already in commercials?
It'll be really bad when Neil Young sells the rights to "This Note's for You."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 04:59 pm
Interesting segue bask to
Interesting segue bask to Taylor Swift. I guess Scooter Braun owns the rights to her first 2 albums, not the songs themselves, but the albums. She's remaking and re-releasing both of those albums, so that she gets the proceeds.
The music industry is strange.
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on Sunday, December 13, 2020 – 10:15 pm
>>>Well, then how do you know
>>>Well, then how do you know if it's boring-ass?
I listened to the entire last album they all made together and while I don't know for a fact this new one will b a another boring adult contemporary slog, I just know that it's true.
>>>Do you miss her pop?
I don't really care much for her or any of her music.
>>>Both albums had rave reviews
So did that '1984' album or whatever it was called, didn't it?
The now disgraced, formerly acclaimed, singer/songwriter, Ryan Adams even made his own tribute album of it.
granted, in hindsight, that could have easily just been a shallow ploy to lure her into one of his patented psychosexual entanglements or, at the very least, a sinisterly motivated plan to become more appealing to her underaged female fan base.
>>>I think it's great that she reinvented herself
me too, she's in her 30's and been making music that sounds like she's like in her late teens/early 20's for well over decade
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision 4winds
on Monday, December 14, 2020 – 12:40 am
Bon Iver is a snooze fest.
Bon Iver is a snooze fest. I've tried.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, December 14, 2020 – 07:24 am
Did Disney buy Taylor Swift
Did Disney buy Taylor Swift yet?
Actually, interestingly enough Universal is the distributor for her record label. She will probably do some horrible Dylan covers in her next album.
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on Friday, December 18, 2020 – 02:16 am
4winds, would u micro dose
4winds, would u micro dose with me and take a nap on the lawn at the gorge at a bon iver show if I was buying?
totally platonic of course