New Name for Squaw Valley…

Overdue correction.

Palisades is a HUGE improvement. 

why are they changing Squaw?

1 offensive : an Indigenous woman of North America. 2 dated, disparaging + offensive : woman, wife.

No problem with this name change. When I think of that resort, I think of Palisades. 

They are trying to re-name the Gore Range in CO.

Gore slaughtered 1000s of wild bison, antelope, elk, moose etc when "exploring" the area and left them to rot.

"...Gore’s three-year stopover in the American West had him traversing what is today the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming and Colorado. The figures are difficult to substantiate, but Gore himself claimed to have killed more than 2,000 buffalo, 1,600 elk and deer and 100 bears for mere sport. The carcasses were left to rot.

Although he was recorded crossing Gore Pass west of Kremmling, he is not believed to have ever set foot in the peaks. Instead, it was American explorers and cartographers who simply affixed Gore’s name to the range on early maps, and the colloquial eventually became convention..."

1 offensive : an Indigenous woman of North America. 2 dated, disparaging + offensive : woman, wife.  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

ah yes- let's play the "politically correct card" -- typical hipster response.

Like anyone gave a hoot in hell about that before.  Spare me. It's a native American WORD.

Hipster? JFC, you got to raise your game on insults.

You must be buckin for SF Board of Supervisors.

Don't mess with the Grand Tetons.

Dyke Marsh just south of Alexandria, Virginia has a certain je ne sais quoi.

Klondike: Do you think private companies can change their name at will?

Heaviest snow I've ever ridden. Sierra Cement

SF Board of Supervisors? That's your boogie man?

No boogie - they're just f--ked up.

Companies can do what they want. I just dig SQUAW.

Don't mess with the Grand Tetons.<<<<<<<<<,      

that's French baby. And correct don't mess. Beautiful place

I'm fine with the sentiment, my issue with some of these name-changes is that they're just the very tip of a very deep iceberg, and once the change is made everyone pats themselves on the back, congratulating themselves for how they're eliminating racism, when all they're doing is changing a name.

What really needs to happen to make this sort of thing truly meaningful is to go way deeper and make all of this part of a focused, methodical & comprehensive curriculum in schools about the true history of racism in our country and the world.

But that's not going to happen, so IMO most of this is just a bunch of people splashing around in the very shallow end of a very deep pool and telling themselves what great swimmers they are.

Klondike...I think you're supposed to hate France.

Let's face it.  "Tetons" is fun to say.

Some interesting info I uncovered many years ago when researching my maternal grandmother’s background, who was born on a Washoe reservation. Because she left her family when my mother was around 4 years old, we never were able to find out if my grandmother was native American. My Mom, who was raised in a Sacramento orphanage, was also unable to find a copy of her mother’s birth certificate or her actual age and only had family references to the reservation as her place of birth.
Among some of the things I learned while researching the Washoe, was the tribe had inhabited the Tahoe basin when white settlers discovered them. According historic accounts, the name Squaw Valley was named so, because the white people at first only encountered Washoe women and children in that area. The men were supposedly away, hunting. The name “squaw” was a widely used term for Native American women, even though the word is more specific to Algonquian languages. The word for woman in Washo is da’moa’mo. I guess Palisades sounds better. I know the new name refers to the Palisades group of peaks in the Sierra, but I wonder if they’ll build a fence around the ski resort.

Heaviest snow I've ever ridden. Sierra Cement

Definitely not the lightest, for sure. Still, from my samplings, more often than not, the snow in the Cascades aka Cascade Concrete is heavier and doesn't have too many possibilities of lighter stuff at times like the Sierras. I've skied some storms in the East that beats them all, having the consistency of lumpy mashed potatoes.  

How about them Washington football teamers?

Let's change the name of Los Angeles!!!!

Surely not the City of Angels!!!!

 >>>>>The name “squaw” was a widely used term for Native American women, even though the word is more specific to Algonquian languages.

It became a widely used term for a certain part of a Native American woman's body. Using It to name natural features would be like calling the local swimming hole "Pussy Pond" or "Cunt Creek".

In our area most of the "Squaw"s have been changed to various other Native American names.

What made the short list?

why not name it after the local Tahoe basin tribe The Washoe  or   Wa She Shu Ski Bowl...

and lets put Mosley’s Run to rest 

But keep Broken Arrow  (for obvious reasons)

and lets put Mosley’s Run to rest 

Curious on why you think that?

What percentage of the lift ticket at Virtue Signal Mountain goes to funding 1st Nation's causes?

Meanwhile, up in Humboldt, Patrick's Point State Park in Trinidad, which I used to live on the border of,

will probably be called Sue-meg State Park, A Yurok name.

   The don't want it named after the guy, Patrick Beegan, who showed up in the 1850's and chopped up a bunch of Indians.

Patrick's Point absolutely should be renamed. As a former resident of Trinidad, CA where the park resides, I can tell you a lot more about it than some guy "chopped up a bunch of indians". Firstly, many people who live in Trinidad are native to the area, some of their families are a direct line back to the Indians who were murdered in cold blood by settlers in a obscenely violent land grab. These scumbags were hired by local business owners to sneak into a festival encampment under cloak of darkness after the men had left to get supplies and indeed "chopped up" 160-300 women, children, elders in their sleep with hatchets, shovels, pickaxes. The Wiyot tribe was nearly exterminated, only a handful of people survived. Ruthless, brutal attack on peaceful people for $$$$ deserves no place of honor. 

https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/j67316090

Secondly no one in Trinidad or the county at large feels any loyalty to Patrick Beegan, he was by all accounts a complete piece of shit whose only achievement was attaining large land tracts via vicious murder. I would go out of my way to do a piss on his grave if I knew where it was, and I'm not native. Even in those "other times" people of moral character spoke out, Bret Harte was nearly lynched for reporting the incident to SF newspapers without sugar coating the fact that clergy in the area were if not in enthusiastically in favor of cold blooded murder, not against it either. 

Lastly the park itself has worked in cooperation with Yurok and Wiyot tribes to showcase what tribal life was like in the park and it's demeaning to the very people making the park a viable attraction by naming it aftyer a POS genocidal maniac who murdered and facilitated the murders of their ancestors. 

I'm fine with the sentiment, my issue with some of these name-changes is that they're just the very tip of a very deep iceberg, and once the change is made everyone pats themselves on the back, congratulating themselves for how they're eliminating racism, when all they're doing is changing a name.

In Trinidad, it's about healing the existing community who are very much connected to both the tribal name as well as the tragedy connected to Patrick Beegan. 

Related elaboration (my old roommate is mentioned in the article, she's kicking some serious ass these days!) for Lance  https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/dont-live-in-a-murder-house/C...

Lastly and I know I'm officially meltdown status for posting so many times in a row, but I'll own it. This shit is very dark and I get the OP delivery probably wasn't meaning disrespect intentionally. It merely turned up a floodlight illuminating the difference between SJW pet projects and direct actions towards healing in community. Anti-native racism is pointed and palpable in Humboldt county, and this is how the indigenous community is handling it, by re-re-naming the land that belonged to them until their families were literally murdered out of occupying their native land. It's not like a bunch of ski bunnies were just "like omg! let's social justice today!" in the case regarding Patrick's Point 

More grim history, but it gives you a much clearer idea of just how fucked things were, and not that long ago.

https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/murder-in-arcata/Content?oid=...

Well said. 

https://indiancountrytoday.com/the-press-pool/yurok-tribe-requests-the-c...

The California State Park and Recreation Commission has jurisdiction over the naming of units of the State Parks System. California State Parks is recommending that the Commission approve the changing of Patrick’s Point State Park name to Sue-meg State Park at the Thursday, September 30, 2021, meeting. Public feedback on this potential name change will be accepted by close of business Tuesday, September 28, 2021. Written comments may be emailed to [email protected] with the words “Patrick’s Point Name Change” in the subject line. There will also be a time for public member comment at the Commission meeting.

Kelseyville was named after the same kinda scumbag.   And the idiots that run my HOA just changed the name from Clear Lake Riviera(A change was definitely needed) to Kelseyville Riviera. Many folks screamed but they did it anyway.  Should have changed it to Konocti Riviera in honor of the volcano out my window(Mt Konocti).

Thanks, Dise. I had no idea. I spent time in the park in the '60s and early '70s without thinking about where the name came from or what kind of killer scum he was.

Local, we were probably neighbors at some point, I lived next to Deckers, aka the abandoned boy scout camp "ghost town". I understand your intentions. I'm tripping at just how close to the bone it gets, My old roommate and friend is mentioned in one of the articles, we spent many nights wrangling the cliffs of Trinidad electric and days walking Agate beach together, Though I got most of my info from google our conversations about her heritage make it feel very personal and I'm realizing just how deep our talks were. Maybe it didn't strike as hard when I was younger because we're friends and it wasn't a "you white people" thing, it was her honoring family and life. She's very active in the community, adopted her cousins and works on native language projects and more. This is a very big deal for the Wiyott and Yurok communities. Now I'm just rambling but I have a lot of thoughts and no way to organize them cohesively right now. Thanks for understanding.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220383710527152&set=a.1716632599943

Thanks for the history lesson dise. 
 

go 9'ers!?

really a lot of shameful shit went down here in California that maybe isn't as widely known as little big horn or whatever such attrocity...