If any of you are looking to change it up a bit, here’s the one going around these parts: FST-7
Here’s the “science”: http://www.simplyshredded.com/fst-7-fascia-stretch-training-7-workout-ro...
Here’s the variation I just started. Leg day yesterday fucked my shit up, in a good way. I’ll mak some slight changes, but this is the basis. I think I’ll do it every other week because it’s just too intense. One thing I read said that unless you’re an elite athlete, or you’re juicing, you’ll wreck yourself after 2 weeks: http://muscleandbrawn.com/fst-7-five-day-training-split-by-hany-rambod/
Enjoy!
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 11:12 am
So much isolation of muscle
So much isolation of muscle groups. You must spend over 2 hours in the gym doing all those sets. 33 non-warmup sets of exercise seems insane to me.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 11:51 am
That’s what I thought, but
That’s what I thought, but the fucked thing is how quick it is. Day 1, core and chest, took 45 minutes. Day 2, quads/calves/hamstrings, took just over an hour. I altered day 3 a bit and did back and triceps, and again just around an hour.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 11:57 am
It is bizarre to do so much
It is bizarre to do so much isolation. I just came off 4 months of 5-3-1, where the big push is compound, and isolation are just supporting exercises.
5-3-1 took substantially longer, but that may be because the weights are so precise that half the he time is spent doing math: (374 - 45) x .5
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 11:58 am
Only gave it a quick glance,
Only gave it a quick glance, but this seems like a bodybuilding split isolation program that's going to lead to weight loss for most trainees, not strength training.
How often do you increase the weight in your lifts on this program? Are you hitting weekly PRs?
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:05 pm
Just started the other day,
Just started the other day, Mark. I’m using this as a way to not try for PRs, just something to do. For PRs I’ll go back to 5-3-1 or 5x5. It’s just something different. It’s fun to hit PRs, but I’m not competing and that shit takes a huge toll on my body.
I guess that top powerlifters are using the program, as well as bodybuilders.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:15 pm
I get it, but 5/3/1 seems
I get it, but 5/3/1 seems like a vastly superior program for an experienced lifter like you, and there's way more recovery built in.
One of the things that jumped out at me in this program is back to back deadlifting on days 2 & 3 (straight leg deadlift & deadlift). That's gotta be a motherfucker, especially combined with everything else in there.
I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of non-competitive lifters should either be working an LP, or an intermediate program like Texas Method or 5/3/1. All that isolation work seems like a waste of time when you can get stronger just doing the big compound lifts and hitting PRs.
Of course, so many guys get bored doing that same shit week in week out, so I definitely see the appeal from that perspective.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:25 pm
Texas Method allows for
Texas Method allows for recovery nicely. It's good for when the weight is too heavy for constant 5x5 sets.
My problem is always not sleeping enough.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:26 pm
You make great points, Mark.
You make great points, Mark. Again, it’s just something different. After 4 months on a program I get burned out.
I definitely altered this one. I did trap bar deadlifts instead of hack squats, because they also target quads more than straight bar lifts. I did rack pulls instead of stiff leg deads.
Powerlifters scoff at any program that isn’t all about getting stronger. They have all those rules about never repeating a weight that you once had a PR on, etc.
But fuck ‘em! Sometimes it’s about doing something different, having fun, and not sitting on the couch!
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:29 pm
This is a body building
This is a body building/sculpting workout. Low weights high reps (bodybuilding) versus high weights low reps (building mass). Body builders use these workouts to shape the muscles individually. It's a workout for people who are professional bodybuilders or for people who stare at themselves in mirror excessively like there a bodybuilder.
I swear by Myoplex shakes. Helps me push through the wall during workouts of 1 to 2 hours of non-stop cardio training. Any people on there feet all day for a living should look into drinking these as it will give you more energy. Athletes use these as meal replacements since no chef can deliver 100% of everything that athletes need except this engineered nutrition.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:30 pm
Man, I find at 40yo recovery
Man, I find at 40yo recovery is easily 70% of the game for me now.
>>>I did rack pulls instead of stiff leg deads
That's a smart sub. You could probably sub bent over barbell rows in as an alternate pull as well. I like to do those with a supine grip to get a little bicep work in, because why not.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:35 pm
Muscle has memory
muscle has memory
build mass then sculpt it
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:38 pm
I altered the program to give
I altered the program to give more recovery. On days I- 3 I hit back, chest, legs and triceps. Tomorrow will be shoulders/traps, but not this program, and biceps. Then I’m resting my sore ass for 3 days, and won’t do this shit for another week after that. At almost 50, recovery is 75% of the game. I’m sore as shit, all over!
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:39 pm
>> It's a workout for people
>> It's a workout for people who are professional bodybuilders or for people who stare at themselves in mirror excessively like there a bodybuilder.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:42 pm
So, you’re saying that I can
So, you’re saying that I can be “that dude,” the one who not so discretely flexes and stares every time they pass a mirror? Sweet!
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:47 pm
https://www.livestrong.com/article/557657-8-reasons-why-women-should-lif...
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:54 pm
>>>I altered the program to
>>>I altered the program to give more recovery
Definitely smart. I train with a few younger dudes and it's amazing the difference in hormonal response and just overall recovery potential 10 years of age difference makes.
I've actually added sauna into my recovery program for about 3 months now, and it has made a significant difference for me. Highly recommended. Check our Dr. Rhonda Patrick breaking it down on Rogan's show here:
https://youtu.be/NChyDtupmkk
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 12:54 pm
One of my beast friends was
One of my best friends was deciding between college football (building mass workouts) vs professional wrestler (body building workouts) during junior year summer of high school in 1989. Told him to go the college football route since a scholarship was being offered and degree would mean more in long run since he was poor and not going to college any other way. He almost died senior year of college after 6 years of bad steroids abuse.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 01:07 pm
My current sauna program is
My current sauna program is 20-30 minutes 3x a week. I jump in right after I train. I had to work my way up to more time as my body adapted to the stress.
If you try it, be sure to pay close attention to your "fight or flight" response, and bail out if you get that "impending doom" feeling in your gut; you don't want to crank up your cortisol, which is obviously catabolic and totally counter-productive.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 01:17 pm
My gym is so fucking blue
My gym is so fucking blue collar. We just got AC last week (literally), and sure as hell don’t have a sauna or hot tub.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 01:26 pm
Lol I get it. Honestly I
Lol I get it. Honestly I prefer to train in gyms like that (especially because you can generally use chalk in them) but...they opened this high end Globogym like three minutes from my place a few years ago, so I joined and I gotta say; it's nice.
They have 10 platforms, and most of the members are doing either cardio or like those ridiculous jump-on-this-and-then-half-rep-this-kettlebell type of program, so there's virtually never a wait.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 01:34 pm
The big downside is that
The big downside is that there are 3 fucking brands of plates. I don’t mind mixing, but it has to be symmetrical. I can spend half my time tracking the damn things down.
One guy who trains there has a few WRs. After he does squats, every damn 45 lb plate will be at the rack.
And I just love spotting him on squats? What’s the point? The guy is 250 and does reps with 575. If he goes down, it’s not like I can catch him.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 02:16 pm
If he loses control of that
If he loses control of that weight there's gonna be a big crash. The only thing you could do is get out of the way.
The only time I use a spotter is on the bench; and frankly, I'd much rather just bench in a power rack because most guys have no idea how to spot anyway. Unfortunately my gym doesn't have a bench in a power rack, so I end up just not collaring the bar, fully aware that if I have to bail on a rep the weight is going on the floor.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 02:52 pm
You could be like me and keep
You could be like me and keep fucking up your shoulder. Benching becomes a non-issue.
I just started back up for the first time in 5-6 months. It makes me truly understand how important form really is.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 03:28 pm
Yeah dude you really have to
Yeah dude you really have to be careful on the bench not to impinge your shoulders.
I try to focus on that "not completely vertical" bar path by bringing the bar down a bit to my sternum at the bottom of the rep. Apparently that's the trick, although my form is nothing to write home about overall.
I honestly don't care for the bench press; the only reason I do it is because it's such an efficient upper body exercise. It's super dangerous, and I'd guess more guys get injured or killed doing it than probably every other barbell exercise combined.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 03:55 pm
This "new" workout sounds
This "new" workout sounds remarkably similar to the routines my old man and his homies were doing in the 80's.
I thought it was all about that 5-3-1 blast, those ridiculous jump-on-this-and-then-half-rep-this-kettlebell, pull a huge rope with your butt cheeks sort of programs, and javadave's/house wives of America plank n' stankorama stuff these days.
but I guess, much like fashion, nutrition and exercise fads r fairly cyclical.
i share your guys' distaste for the ol fashioned bench press.
and damn, mark, that's alotta sauna.
Your skin must b as clear and smooth as fuckin rose petals by now.
i'd b satisfied if i could maintain a solid routine of serious monthly sauna sessions.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 04:10 pm
The crazy thing about the
The crazy thing about the bench press is that it’s 7 distinct movements. The one that always got me was to “lower the bar with your lats.” Huh?
I finally figured it out. You just stay on your chicken wings the whole time, and it automatically moves the pressure from the shoulders to the lats. If I’m off, even a little bit, my rotator cuff yells at me. Once the elbows flair out, you’re done.
I often wonder why the fuck I lift weights at all. In what functional reality does someone lay on a board and repetitively lift a weighted bar? Never! But, it keeps me half sane.
That American Ninja or Strongman shit is the way to go.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 04:42 pm
>>>and damn, mark, that's
>>>and damn, mark, that's alotta sauna.
Your skin must b as clear and smooth as fuckin rose petals by now<<<
I glow like a delicate rose petal in the new morn' dew, E. I also get a huge HGH dump from the heat stress, which of course helps facilitate recovery, provided I sleep enough (which I don't, because of my kid haha).
This is probably the best bench press vid I've found. Definitely helped me correct some of my chronic form errors on the bench. It's about 18 mins, but worth a watch.
https://youtu.be/1FWDde2IEPg
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 05:11 pm
>> The crazy thing about the
>> The crazy thing about the bench press is that it’s 7 distinct movements.
You think a lot more than I do about it. My only cue is "elbows in". I've never hurt myself benching, but I always pause for 1 second on my chest and maintain tension.
I think people get hurt because they a) attempt a ridiculously wide grip to limit the range of motion and therefore put stress on their shoulders or b) try to trampoline the weight off their chest.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 05:25 pm
>>>You think a lot more than
>>>You think a lot more than I do about it.
Not really. I just hear the big boys talking about it all the time. All I really have is to stay on my shoulder blades and squeeze the bar.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 05:55 pm
Isn't Brian k like 5'2"?
Isn't Brian k like 5'2"?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 06:04 pm
5’ 6”, hot stuff. Wanna party
5’ 6”, hot stuff. Wanna party?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 07:09 pm
I'd love to challenge you to
I'd love to challenge you to an arm wrestling match.
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on Thursday, July 19, 2018 – 07:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga840rtZAkI