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My sis and her family traveled to Patagonia last month. They had a fantastic trip..and my sister fell - high winds. If you go, tie your shoes tights and wear your backpack close (with no rain cover - it will just blow off).
And the Patagonia brand. One of the best. Great products and even better business ethics:
http://www.tetongravity.com/story/news/patagonia-withdraws-of-outdoor-re...
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In a press release sent out this morning, Patagonia announced it will not be participating in Outdoor Retailer, one of the biggest trade shows in the country held twice a year in Salt Lake City, Utah. The company is doing so in response to Utah Gov. Gary Herbert's move to revoke the Bears Ears National Monument last week. (The Bears Ears National Monument was established by former President Barack Obama in the last few days of his presidency.)
According to the press release, “Utah Gov. Gary Herbert signed a resolution on Friday urging the Trump administration to rescind the Bears Ears National Monument, making it clear that he and other Utah elected officials do not support public lands conservation nor do they value the economic benefits - $12 billion in consumer spending and 122,000 jobs – that the outdoor recreation industry brings to their state. Because of the hostile environment they have created and their blatant disregard for Bears Ears National Monument and other public lands, the backbone of our business, Patagonia will no longer attend the Outdoor Retailer show in Utah and we are confident other outdoor manufacturers and retailers will join us in moving our investment to a state that values our industry and promotes public lands conservation.“ – Rose Marcario, President and CEO, Patagonia, Inc.
This is a big and bold move from the company, but not a surprising one given the current situation in Utah regarding public lands, and Patagonia's staunch commitment to conserve and protect the planet and its resources.
Bears Ears National Monument — the reason why Patagonia is backing out. Josh Ewing photo.
Bears Ears National Monument currently protects 1.3 million acres of land that surround a pair of buttes and borders Canyonlands National Park and Glen Canyon national Recreation Area in southeastern Utah. Much of the land is considered sacred by Native American Tribes.
According to NPR, Utah representative Rob Bishop, who chairs the House Committee on Natural Resources, also wants to either shrink or rescind the monument all together, saying that it is the wrong size and does not take into account the various uses of the land. Others opposed to Bears Ears are concerned about the lack of state involvement regarding Obama's decision to protect the land. (If you are looking for a longer read, this story from The Atlantic dives deep into both sides.)
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I have been watching the
I have been watching the program called Alone season 3 on the History Station taking place in Patagonia. Some really nice outdoor shots of survival
The third season was set in Patagonia, Argentina, in South America. The contestants were spread across multiple lakes in the foothills of the Andes Mountain Range. Unlike seasons 1 and 2, which were located on the Pacific Ocean, season 3's food resources are mostly limited to Brown and Rainbow Trout, forage, small birds, and the possibility of wild boar. They also were at a disadvantage because they had no access to the 'flotsam and jetsam' that washes up on the Pacific Coast. They also had no salt source.
The weather in Patagonia is comparable to Vancouver Island, with rainfall averaging 78 inches a year. Snowfall is extremely common in the winter.
Predators in Patagonia include wild boar and puma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone_(TV_series)
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great company, great products
great company, great products.....
good for them!
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They make non-petro wetsuits.
They make non-petro wetsuits.
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Due to the anti-public lands
Due to the anti-public lands stance by Utah's politicians, the Outdoor Retailer's convention, which brings in $45 million in direct spending from it's two conventions per year, is threatening to pull out of Utah. The movement is led by Peter Metcalf of Black Diamond, a Utah company. Big news locally the last few weeks.
Two days ago Patagonia said fuck Utah's politicians. We're not going to the OR show if it is held in Utah.
http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/outdoors/4913629-155/patagonia-drops-out...
Three other companies have now followed suit, with REI balking.
So yeah, great company. AND they supported Tim DeChristopher years ago when he was going to trial.
Called them the other day to offer support and told I'll be down to buy something to support them. Clerk said the response has been mixed.
Hope to see Patagonia someday. I should check out the show. Thanks, Bart. Best to you.
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Yvon Chouinard, the founder,
Yvon Chouinard, the founder, is an interesting guy. His current schtick is that fishing is too complicated so he is selling the modern telescoping equivalent of a cane pole for fly fishing. Interesting. More expensive than cane pole but portable, I have a friend who loves it. Bart, I am a fan of the Alone series, good to hear they changed up the location, I'll have to check it out. There is this dirt road that runs down the middle of Chile over into Argentina and back and down into Patagonia. You can bike it or rent a 4WD camper truck. If i will the lottery I'll be all over that.
Fun article about Chouinard.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/09/19/patagonias-philosopher-king
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>>even better business ethics
>>even better business ethics
So they make their stuff in the nice parts of China? LOL
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Yvon Chouinard has done a lot
Yvon Chouinard has done a lot for the climbing world both rock and ice. From pitons, to hexcentrics and stoppers. Bought much of that gear. He was also revolutionary with Ice Climbing.
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In 1957, he bought a second-hand coal-fired forge, and started making hardened steel pitons for use in Yosemite Valley. Between time spent surfing and climbing, he sold pitons out of the back of his car to support himself. The improved pitons were a big factor in the birth of big-wall climbing from 1957 to 1960 in Yosemite. The success of his pitons caused him to found Chouinard Equipment, Ltd.
In the late 1960s, Chouinard and business partner Tom Frost began studying ice climbing equipment, and re-invented the basic tools (crampons and ice axes) to perform on steeper ice. These new tools and his book Climbing Ice (1978) started the modern sport of ice climbing.
Around 1970, he became aware that the use of steel pitons made by his company was causing significant damage to the cracks of Yosemite. These pitons comprised 70 percent of his income.[7] In 1971 and 1972, Chouinard and Frost introduced new aluminum chockstones, called Hexentrics and Stoppers, along with the less successful steel Crack-n-Ups, and committed the company to the advocacy of the new tools and a new style of climbing called "clean climbing". This concept revolutionized rock climbing and led to further success of the company, despite destroying the sales of pitons, formerly his most important product.
They applied for a U.S. patent on Hexentrics in 1974 and it was granted on April 6, 1976.[8] These are still manufactured by Black Diamond Equipment.
In the latter 1960s, Chouinard attempted a number of significant technological and technique changes to ice climbing after trips to the Alps in Europe and Sierra Nevada ice gullies in autumn. He removed the flex from crampons, making them more rigid for front-pointing. He drew the taper of a rock hammer into a point for better ice purchase. He increased the cross section of ice screws while also using lighter materials. He experimented with pick and blade issues with ice axes. Prior to this, much of ice climbing was seen as mere step cutting. He attempted to replace hand ice picks (climbing type) with a small ice axe head called a Climaxe.
In 1989, Chouinard Equipment, Ltd. filed for bankruptcy protection in order to protect it from liability lawsuits. The hard assets of Chouinard Equipment, Ltd. were acquired by its employees through the Chapter 11 process, and the company was reestablished as Black Diamond Equipment, Ltd.[7]
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McDoobie. yes indeed -
McDoobie. yes indeed - Patagonia has an excellent track record on corporate ethics. great product, great company.
If you want to lol, be my guest - but if you want to know more then here's some info:
http://www.patagonia.com/corporate-responsibility-faqs.html
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I know they claim to
I know they claim to "ethically" produce their products overseas. I'm more than a little sceptical. Hence the LOL.
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No worries, with the new
with the new Trump regime eliminating environmental protections and labor laws products made oversees will be treating their workers better than the blue collar workers in the US.
prison labor is going to become the fastest growing labor force in the US
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Does pretty much everything
Does pretty much everything have a Trump connection for you Nancy? You seem kind of obsessed.
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Interesting question,
Interesting question, McDoobie. I consider the Donald to be a major threat to the environment, democracy, human rights and world peace. Issues that I feel are very important, even in my daily life. As I'm sitting here at my puter, I'm busy working for a local activist group gathering a list of NGO's in my area so we can identify needs locally and work to help - because so many people in our community are already feeling the effects of the Trump regime.
Our group is working to address issues such as racism/police brutality/gentrifcation, low income housing/poverty/access to healthcare, education, support for undocumented communities - to support communities who have been hurt by systems of oppression, which existed before Trump but will only get worse because of his policies.
So yeah. If he weren't POTUS I wouldn't give a rats ass about him. And back to the issue of Patagonia, I'm very happy to support the company since we have shared concerns.
I like to think of it as Persistance, McDoobie. What do you CARE about? I mean besides what I post, and lol-ing about it?
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I care about a lot of things,
I care about a lot of things, but not enough to regularly foam at the mouth about them on a dbmb. I guess I lack your commitment to the revolution.
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Foaming at the mouth, huh? Oh
Foaming at the mouth, huh? Oh well, I can understand if you're apolitical or apathetic (or just lazy) how you could interpret passion and persistence for something like that. It's not a revolution so much as a resistance to the fascist policies being promoted by Trump and his ilk.
Hey, if you care more about stirring up some drama then the loss of National Monuments like Bears Ear, that's your choice.
Are we done here yet, McDoobie?
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We're gonna stop ICE next.
We're gonna stop ICE next.
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I don't have to be apolitical
I don't have to be apolitical or apathetic to find your political rants to be persistent, rude and condescending. But I am lazy enough to be done with this. Keep it positive!
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Adios, McDoobie. Of course
Adios, McDoobie. Of course you're welcome to stop in anytime if you want to contribute to the discussion about Patagonia! Be well.
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Patagonia in the news..and
Patagonia in the news..and yeah it also has to do with Trump. Totally offensive, I know.
http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detaine...
>Two weeks ago, Sidd Bikkannavar flew back into the United States after spending a few weeks abroad in South America. An employee of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Bikkannavar had been on a personal trip, pursuing his hobby of racing solar-powered cars. He had recently joined a Chilean team, and spent the last weeks of January at a race in Patagonia.
Bikkannavar is a seasoned international traveller — but his return home to the US this time around was anything but routine. Bikkannavar left for South America on January 15th, under the Obama Administration. He flew back from Santiago, Chile to the George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, Texas on Monday, January 30th, just over a week into the Trump Administration.
HE WAS DETAINED BY CUSTOMS AND PRESSURED TO GIVE UP HIS PHONE AND ACCESS PIN
Bikkannavar says he was detained by US Customs and Border Patrol and pressured to give the CBP agents his phone and access PIN. Since the phone was issued by NASA, it may have contained sensitive material that wasn’t supposed to be shared. Bikkannavar’s phone was returned to him after it was searched by CBP, but he doesn’t know exactly what information officials might have taken from the device...
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https://www.pastemagazine.com
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/02/hiking-patagonia-national...
>>It took the world a long time to discover Patagonia, the trendy adventure area shared by both southern Chile and Argentina. While other mountaineers had been hiking and climbing the Alps and Rockies for over a century, Patagonia wasn’t explored much until the 1980s. In fact, the recreational area didn’t become mainstream until the 21st century, when more accessible transportation, lodging and tourist amenities were finally added.
What’s all the fuss about? In between knife-like mountains, this is arguably the best place in the world to see moving glaciers. It is also a great place to meet gentle but playful people.
Last month I had the chance to examine this hauntingly majestic land up close on guided tour with National Geographic Adventures, the society’s active tour operator. Spoiler alert: it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Here’s what I witnessed hiking to what some call South America’s greatest “national park.”
Surreal Summits
When people say they’re “going to Patagonia,” they usually mean the massifs of either Torres Del Paine (pronounced “Piney”) in Chile or Fitz Roy in Argentina. After all, greater Patagonia is nearly twice the size of Texas and mostly barren.
What makes these mountains so special, then? 1) Both have vertical drops of around 10,000 feet from the viewing floor, which appears more impressive than mountains of equal height but with lesser prominence. 2) These peaks are more like steeples than the traditional triangles you’re used to seeing. Like mountain-sized shanks dusted with powdered sugar. This effect makes them appear more sinister than other ranges. Indeed, one indigenousness interpretation of Paine reputedly means “don’t go there.”
But like an insect attracted to electric blue light, you’ll be drawn to the famous “W” hike around Paine’s greatest features: Gray Glacier, French Valley, Los Cuernos, and the namesake three-pronged towers (or torres), one of the most magnificent viewpoints on the planet.
Until you get to nearby Fitz Roy. Although I adore the Grand Tetons, the combination of Cerro Torre and Fitz Roy peaks (pictured) are 2-3 times as grand as the former. I can see why an entire outdoor company was named for this place.
Forces of Nature
Before you enter either Torres Del Paine or Glaciares National Parks, you’ll be properly introduced to wind like you’ve never heard, felt or seen before. You can hear it as it howls up to 60-100 miles per hour. You can feel it as it almost (and sometimes) knocks you down. And you’ll see it in sideways growing trees, oddly shaped stratocumlus clouds racing across the sky, and water spouts or sheets of mist that cross emerald lakes in airborne waves.
The prevailing wind is so forceful here, even the stalactites of Milodon Cave are bent. In short, my respect for and awareness of wind grew considerably on this trip. So did my appreciation for rainbows. While driving to the interior from Punta Arenas, I counted eight rainbows in a two-hour period. Two doubles even. This friendly occurrence endeared almost as much as the wind...