Pipe Bomb Packages

Thom should be here shortly to confirm this is actually the case. Probably echo something Rush Limbaugh is currently spouting from his big, pumpkin-like head.

I tuned in the local news talk station to hear just that. While everyone at the EIB network abhors violence and this pipe bomb attacks, they also couldnt help but suggest the democrats were behind them. I mean for fucks sake! This is the exact kind of toxic bullshit that brings us to the point we are at today. Our country can never be defeated externally, but those inside it are real keen to exacerbate our differences and destroy us from within. This nation seems to be unraveling at a shocking pace recently.

Heard someone, in person, say a liberal must have done this as well.

That assumption is all over the facebooks. 

And well said, Nuclear Ned.

>>>This nation seems to be unraveling at a shocking pace recently. 

Our fake president has been ratcheting up the heat, scared about the prospects of the mid-terms.

It's like the finale at the fireworks show, just throw everything out there.

His ego will not let him care about how it affects our country. It's our responsibility to stand up to that in a civilized manner.

It's shocking anyone would think that.

Time to brush up on some history: Strategy of Tension 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

I'm not familiar with the concept of "false flag"...could someone please explain this to me?  Is that something that has ever happened before, or is this the first time it has been alleged?

So...is the theory that 13 days before an election this might be a bit too convenient to be pure coincidence?

https://youtu.be/Gst2pwtzz1w

General question: Does anyone reasonably believe that if there were some large scale event (e.g. another 9/11 or if these bombs had been successful, etc.) that the current administration would not try to turn to a martial law type state, call off the impending elections AND that the current legislative branch would immediately acquiesce and let it happen?

If you believe that they (current administration and current legislative branch) would not do this, please explain why and cite any bona fide examples to show why they wouldn't.

An interesting twist I haven't heard mentioned or read about...if they found the device mailed to the Clintons last night...why not disclose that until the rest of the devises were discovered this morning?  Maybe there was mention made of it and I didn't notice, it just seems odd, like why not tip off the public in the event they received a similar package, maybe it's not unusual.  I'm glad no one is politicizing it.

The device sent to Mrs. Clinton was found late Tuesday by a Secret Service employee who screens mail for her, a statement from the Secret Service said.

    -New York Times

The devices contained some of the components that would be required to build an operable bomb, but law enforcement officials would not say late on Wednesday whether they were viable...

Some bomb technicians who studied photos of the device that circulated on social media suggested that the bomb sent to CNN had hallmarks of fake explosives — the kind more typically depicted on television and in movies, rather than devices capable of detonating.

A digital clock was taped to the middle of the pipe, a feature that experts say is typically shown on fictional bombs in an attempt to ratchet up dramatic tension, but unnecessary in real life.

In fact, bombmakers generally avoid attaching visible clocks to their devices to keep from tipping off their targets about when the bombs are set to explode.

    - New York Times

So "Bryen" you sprung for Postage to mail yer old rasty underwear to campaign offices around the USA,  and now brag about it here ???

There is something rather suspicious about you "Bryen".

Never posted on the Original PZ,  made up a handle here but only post political BS.

I think you are a Total Fuck-Monkey,  "Bryen".

Even a lower - class Fuck-Monkey compared to regular dirtbags that post here for ages.
Of course that is just my opinion,  but it is true.

I don't get out much

I'm just a regular old, long-term dirtbag poster, but I do think Bryen consistently acts as Viva's own little agent provocateur. 

We're all watching the same news feed, one will make of it what they will.  No hate, love to all of you unconditionally...at some point it matters not what is opined on this board, events will carry the day, just making observations.  Have a great October 25th!

I'm just going to put this here; 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/congressional-democrats-...

>>>>There is something rather suspicious about you "Bryen".

>>>>Never posted on the Original PZ,  made up a handle here but only post political BS.

He who treats dog well is on to something. Very suspicious someone page viva detectives and get them off McTwotimer case.

>>>>>McTwotimer

Lol.

Trumps take --- 'people are pissed at fake news'.   

What a presidential response.  

If trump was twice as smart he'd still be a fucking moron.  Hence his appeal to his base.

How the pubs in congress ever allowed this to happen to our country is a travesty of fatal proportions.

If any of you have the gumption to vote repub, rethink. Is this what you're about ?

If so I'm sorry you're such a pathetic fucking asshole, and you're head looks like a potato.

People please tell me when, we'll be rid of these men - FZ

The right has been working hard at dumbing down America for a few decades. Now they have them (us?) dumb enough to vote for this POS.

>>>How the pubs in congress ever allowed this to happen to our country

The Democratic Party is largely responsible too.  They pushed a weak/flawed candidate in Hillary,

Love the "both sides" angle (but Steve Scalise...)

Hey Trump/Fucktard Republicans only ONE side does this,

YOURS!

Meanwhile Faux News is calling them packages and a "prank".

More thoughts on all this after Phish Tour.

Please get out and vote.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/mika-s-message-to-dems-we-need-t...

>The Democratic Party is largely responsible too.

That is still the weakest excuse out there. It's dishonest, naive and just at the end of the day crazed.  I have a choice --- hmmmm someone that has always exposed himself as criminally insane or someone that has been in the game for years but I've read some shit on 4chan and from the GOP campaign about her? If in the end this country elected Trump they sure as well weren't electing the jewish socialist dude campaigning out of VT interloping on the Dem ballot.    

Who was ahead in the polls before election day? What did the Dem party say about the electoral college? Did they know the midwest\rustbelt would flip? What did the Dem candidate tell people in those flip states and districts? 

Yep Trump Had  Nothing To Do With This. It's a False Flag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=104&v=WIs2L2nUL-0

STEP 1 - Everyone needs to take their TV and cable box and throw that fcking thing in the trash! To hell with TV. It is a bigger problem than the internet IMO. Cable TV has melted people's brains, and the internet is just finishing that shit off. My TV that I got for free and use to watch DVDs stays on top of my washing machine. PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED ON BOTH SIDES!

KILL YOUR TELEVISION!!! AND VOTE!!!!!

I'm on the internet right now.

What about your TV Knothead? How much cable TV you watch every day?

Enough to know how much Democrats spend on television. Could they do something better with that money? 

Dude you spend your entire fucking day every day on this website. Does anyone give a shit what you think?

I enjoy Rachel Maddow's show and know she tries her best to stick to the facts. When the right talks about angry and crazed lefties, they are most likely referring to guys like this Hotnanny dude.

It looks too fake for me to think its real.

That's because it is

>> you spend your entire fucking day every day on this website. Does anyone give a shit what you think?

I don't know but I keep coming back. I even read your stuff. 

Fantasizing about Hillary in costume mailing those packages out....  'I'll show those bastards!!!!'.  You really think that this is some master plan to help the dems in the midterms??  

We live in interesting times 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono

I love when people brag about not owning or watching much television.

It benefits the party of guns. It's the party of guns reason for more guns. 

I respectfully disagree, this is a scam

The Intent Of Pipe Bomb Dude/s Is To FUCK With People - Just Like Trump FUCKS With People - They Are On The Same Team.

Jesse Watters, Greg Gutfeld and Steve Hilton benefit from the fear they are spreading.

Why is it a scam Bryen? And by a scam, do you mean its a "false flag" planted by democrats to stir their base, or what?

by the way, Trump literally praised the Montana politician who body slammed a reporter. The politician was arrested and charged i believe.

maybe he did it?

Bryen's knowledge is like those signs you see in dive bars that say Free Beer Tomorrow. 

"devices" 

Just locker room bombs..

or perhaps just a drinking game. 

nothing more than a prank..

or a "scam", as our resident Trumpbot says. 

Feel free to believe whatever supports your narrative 

Feel free to be a Trumpbot. I mean "independent".  You're very good at it. Bless your little right wing troll heart. 

Bryen's/Breitbart narrative:

FAKE NEWS!!! The liberal media is to blame for their hostility toward Trump. 

Love to all.

I don't think the media had anything to do with it, this is a complete scam in a long line of complete scams.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

that's nice, Bryen. you've been thinking alot, we can tell. thanks for sharing with the class. tell us more about all the scams you've been thinking about. no partial scams, just the complete scams. take your time, really no rush. 

Lou Dobbs has been thinking too!

No proof Bryen!

What no right wing lunatic fringe facebook pages to link to.

It's interesting to see how it's being utilized, it's glaringly transparent, but if the operational theory is half the country will literally believe anything if it supports their narrative maybe it's perceived as a viable move on the chessboard.

Here's one for Bryen

You and fom should give pontification a break and try on some folksy simplification for a bit. 

> half the country will literally believe anything if it supports their narrative

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/why-trump-supporters-d...

No matter your political leanings, it's hard not to love the humanity of Bernie.

Poor Hillary, first fake sniper fire in Bosnia and now a fake bomb..

(((Hilldog)))

Bryen wants to pay higher prices for lift tickets next season. 

This story is fishy AF

Think about it, common sense should kick in at some point...does this eventually begin to seem odd?  Is this like any other "attack" you've ever seen before?  

Why did McVeigh kill children? 

"Bryen" is Seadog.

Powerful enough interests have the means to pull off shit like this all fucking day, everyday..

1.  Send bombs to ourselves.

2.  ???

3.  profit ?

Seadog on meds, maybe.

If Blare and Blurt had a kid...

#11 and #12 bomb found addressed to Cory Booker and James Clapper.

Maybe it's an old Russian dude. 

Shut up douche bag.

TOD, why are you name calling?  Everything okay big guy?

We’ve been asked to avoid personal insults and focus on the content of posts and your last post was pretty assholey.

Caught at the zone? 

And cult 45 will still claim  ‘it’s a hoax’ and Fake News!!!

watcha got Lassen? 

It was an ignorant douche bag comment made by him.

Figure you would come to his defense.

I guess douche is gonna douche.

No retraction.

You Viva's cop now?

Van covered with trump stickers, sneakily liberal Democrat trying to put the rap on gop.

It was an old white guy, unknown nationality. 

>> Van covered with trump stickers, sneakily liberal Democrat trying to put the rap on gop. <<

This guy will have neighbors and family members who will tell us the truth about his beliefs.

is this the same van?

BUSTED !

This can would be someone you would steer clear of on the roads in Florida. Road rage and stand your ground are a bad combo on the highways of Florida

^ Not a problem, Denny, he's going to prison.

Crazy stuff going on, how is the right wing nut job social media going to spin this.

The owner of the van has been pardoned and has been named as our new ambassador to Florida. Congratulations, sir. 

It certainly seems as if I stand corrected, tip of the hat to Portland Ken, Occam's Razor seems to have proven correct.  It's a crazy world out there.  

Have you looked up “false-flag” yet you fake nit-wit 

more than 2 stickers on a car = nutso

We should use this as an excuse to blow up Florida. 

It almost seems a little "to" perfect, like right out of central casting.

The target stickers are a huge cry for help.

^ Stop it Bryen.

Again, they will be interviewing his neighbors and family. We will know his deal quickly.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/cesar-sayoc/

>>KILL YOUR TELEVISION!!! AND VOTE!!!!!>>

Fuck that - KILL YOUR CELL PHONE INSTEAD!!!!!

Kill your mailbox!

>a little "to" perfect,<

creekhead?

Looks like Cesar should have skipped a few arms days to work on his core

Typical F'N Trumptard

He  has an image of Mrs. Clinton with a target.  Is that image of the van real?

This is trumps base supporters, one lightbulb short of dozen. One cnn sucks presidential tweet away from weaponized action, shooting or bombing libs. 

When and where did he become radicalized? 

At least Turtle's Faux Cowboy Hollywood Hipster Douche was just a narcissistic nincompoop, the South Florida Trump Douche is a much more virulent species.

The youth soccer recruits are going to be disappointed 

This guy will join all the people Mueller is putting away. Trump will have a nice prison gang waiting for him when he arrives. 

He needs a Miracle

exact same image on his shirt as on the van

also, image with crosshairs is image on left in "arrest" van pic (must be on both sides of the van?)

https://thehayride.com/2018/10/meet-cesar-sayoc-the-most-comically-incom...

What’s his vivalazone handle?

>>>>When and where did he become radicalized? 

I read that he is from New York. Apologies to Russia. 

He books male strippers for a living?

>>The owner of the van has been pardoned and has been named as our new ambassador to Florida. Congratulations, sir. 

This comment is coming from a Wisconsinite.  Your state is not that far off.

United States presidential election in Wisconsin, 2016

Republican Donald Trump 47.22%

Democratic Hillary Clinton 46.45%

Libertarian Gary Johnson 3.58%

source:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Wis...

Glad nobody got hurt. Now the Comedy Gold portion of the show begins for late night TV.

And a new verb:

“sayoc” (Verb) SAY- AK- "to fail so spectacularly people don’t trust that you’re actually trying to do what you’re doing"

Historical moments like these are when I miss Duke’s Zoning the most. 

He’d have even more of the goods posted here by now. 

Derp to all the derps...including the 'gop = to dems' special kind of derps.  

Oh Bryen what lib conspiracy do you got today. Viva's Gorka!

Tom Steyer welcome to club. If Soros ever dies right wing fringe groups will turn there lonely eyes toward you Tom Steyer.

Do we have a photo of the bomber in the stands cheering behind Trump at his rallies, yet? 

Oh, No!!  Not that Man.

Where am I going to go now to get my Steroids???

He will be embraced and protected by the White Supremacists in prison.

Later LOSER = THAT FUCKER WILL NEVER SEE LIGHT EVER AGAIN ! = TOAST !!

AND LOCK HIM UP WITH THAT OTHER FUCKER DONALD TRUMP !!!

>>>>This comment is coming from a Wisconsinite.  Your state is not that far off

im not from Wisconsin, you idiot

Ceasar meet your new cellmate Ted Kaczynski. The odd couple version of the orange is the new black. 

Idiot?  Why are you so heated?  You're the idiot who named himself Bucky Badger (On Wisconsin).  Do you have some affiliation with Wisconsin, Bucky?

Florida man. 

shocking.

Lived in his van. Awesome.

down by the river

>>>>You Viva's cop now?

Did you retire?

Are you CT Bucky, you seem angry enough?!

Did he fix Keyshawn's elbow?

Sayoc used to dream of becoming a professional wrestler. Instead, he found work as a professional stripper.  Back in the 1990s, according to event promoter Tony Valentine, Sayoc was “running around the country” taking jobs as a stripper. Valentine hired him for some stripping jobs in Ohio; Sayoc also worked in Minnesota, the Carolinas, and Florida. “He really couldn’t find his niche in life, and I guess he found it now,” Valentine told the Washington Examiner. “Back in the ’90s, he was running around from Minnesota to the Carolinas to Florida. He was like a gypsy.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/cesar-sayoc/?fbclid=IwAR2SBMmI-ZlVNPSsTS7...

MAGA Bomber

The GOP are doing more damage to our democracy by preventing people from voting.

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/10/24/greg_palast_sues_georgias_brian_...

This is may be exactly as advertised, if so, wow, absolutely off the chart insane...and yes, I would have been mistaken, but I'm still skeptical, it just seems off, call me crazy.

Edit: "This may be"

Too hard to condemn MAGA Bomber, eh Trumpbots?

PS

You know you’re a Cult45 devotee when you believe that Pizzagate seems real but this seems like fake news

>call me crazy.

Crazy?  Lol... No.  You're on the same capacity level as Geraldo Rivera. That alone should be enough to keep you awake at night.

>>>  This is may be...

>>> ...if so

>>>  ...I'm still skeptical

>>>  ...it just seems off

Wild

caught Red hatted 

was this guy a liberal?

thom says liberals are the violent fascists....its so confusing.

Jake Tapper taking a victory lap

All Patriotic Americans should be celebrating the capture of MAGA Bomber. 

he was apprehended without anyone being killed and his bombs failed to detonate and kill MAGA bomber’s targeted victims. 

Of course sad conspiracy theorists are sad.  trump is sad too - he doesn’t want to dial down, walk back or apologize for his hate filled and violent rhetoric. 

Grammar is your friend, Bryen

So some of the devices were hand delivered earlier in the week, then he traveled to South Florida?

If only  Agent 73 and Juggy were around to help with Bryen's investigation. Conspiracy theories aren't going to solve themselves!

>Grammar is your friend, Bryen

Grammar is certainly friendly with the Liberal Elites,  Cult45 not so much. 

Keep grasping,  they weren't hand delivered 

But on Thursday, law enforcement officials determined that all of the devices were most likely sent through the mail, with at least some of them passing through a United States Postal Service center near Miami. The Miami-Dade Police Department’s bomb squad and K-9 unit searched a mail facility on Thursday in Opa-Locka as a “precautionary measure

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/nyregion/pipe-bombs-sent-democrats.html

lol. Oh,  hi Nancy.

No idea what you're talking about.

I've been saying since Wednesday this guy is a Qtard and it looks like I'm right.

Say it with me Donald Trump....

"radical right wing terrorism"

CLENCH FISTED BASTARD FROM HELL !

Let me reiterate, if this is what it appears to be, I was mistaken, I was wrong about what I thought was taking place, until this afternoon everyone was speculating and it seems as if I speculated incorrectly.  Having said that, it seems odd that a guy living out of his van had the financial resources to travel a thousand miles, hand deliver at least two of the devices, and then travel back to South Florida, does that strike anyone else as improbable?

Which part of all the devices most likely delivered through the mail are you having a problem understanding?

he shaves his pits?

he must be a bodybuilder. lol  ^

that was a quick response, Agent 73.  good to know you're on call to help  out the investigation if needed and  didn't fall for the conspiracy.

Tell us more about MAGA Bomber's connections to the Q aka "Qtards". 

https://www.weeklystandard.com/andrew-egger/the-arrest-of-bomber-cesar-sayoc-and-the-false-flag-conservatives

https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-canceled-stamp-conspiracy

Fox’s Geraldo Rivera on bombs sent to Democrats: "At the risk of sounding like a far right-wing lunatic … I believe that this whole thing was an elaborate hoax"

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/10/25/fox-s-geraldo-rivera-bombs-sent-democrats-risk-sounding-far-right-wing-lunatic-i-believe-whole-thing/221859

>Asked if he’ll call Obama or other mail bomb targets, Trump says he’ll ‘probably pass’ — and that he might even ratchet up his rhetoric since the media has been ‘very, very unfair’

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/189955418562614/?__tn__=...

Geraldo is blaming Russia.

>>lol. Oh,  hi Nancy.

Nanc is the biggest troll on viva.

I Use to Receive Several Yellow Mailers B&Ps that Were Never Time Stamped ! Hence Free Stamps for Me !

Geraldo went by the name Gerry Rivers during his time at UofA. Just thought you'd like to know.

He was born in New York.

>Nanc is the biggest troll on viva.

Yay! I mean, congratulations on being runner up, Sarah. We can't all be winners. 

He's half-Filipino.

Bryen, you can go visit this POS in prison and MAGA

How does a guy living out of his van manage to get unpublished addresses?

Help from Russia?

^^^How does a guy living out of his van manage to get unpublished addresses?

From Avenatti?

How is it that all of the packages were delivered even though the postage was inadequate?

Amazon? 

certified nutjob

Everything we know about suspected mail bomber Cesar Sayoc

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5374x/everything-we-know-about-susp...

Does he have magic marker hair?

How did he coordinate with the courier?

The envelope sent to former CIA Director John Brennan at CNN offices in Manhattan also had his name misspelled, as was Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s home state, according to photos released by CNN.

That envelope didn’t bear a postmark, and law-enforcement sources told CNN it was delivered by a courier.

straws...grasping...

Quite the logistical challenge for a homeless guy to coordinate the operation from inside a van, how did he print the mailing labels...did he have a computer plugged into the cigarette lighter?

probably went to Kinko's,  Bryen

He was in the zone, bruh. You can do anything in the zone. 

I don't think a homeless guy living in his van was the manager of an auto parts store.

Auto parts store managers do zooks in the bathroom, then look up numbers on shelves. 

I'm sure he did

I have a friend who was homeless for a time, he slept in a tent. He was employed, had a cell phone and a laptop.  Lots of places provide free internet access. 

>more than 2 stickers on a car = nutso<

Meet Miss Liberty...

<<didn't fall for the conspiracy.

thanks, I'm glad you didnt either.

So were there actual explosives or accelerants in the devices? I have not heard this yet.

Double

Please, Bryen, stop tryin', nobody's buyin' your lies.

bryen is longhair bill. I thought everyone already knew that?

There's a lot about this that is highly suspect, if you surgically remove your own bias, I think we can agree that a lot of this story is difficult to believe.  If you choose to take everything you are told at face value that is certainly your prerogative, it's a free country.  In light of today's events I'm going to leave it at that.  It's a difficult time, I hope this country can begin to heal.  

>There's a lot about this that is highly suspect..

No there isn't. You're just so entrenched in the Trump cult that you can't recognize facts or admit that you were wrong about the insane conspiracy theory the far right cooked up. The MAGA Bomber was motivated by Trump's hateful and violent rhetoric.

Heal thyself and then we can talk about healing the country. 

>>There's a lot about this that is highly suspect

No there isn't. Crazy is as crazy does. The president is a loon; loonies are gathering at his rallies and being inspired to act out. There's nothing suspect or unexplainable or conspiratorial about it. It's plain as day. I'm sick and tired of people like Bryen acting like there's a state conspiracy behind a crazy-ass president inspiring crazy-ass, racist, twisted, sick people to go out and punch, kick, shoot, intimidate, march with torches, and bomb whoever they perceive as an "other" in this nation of diverse immigrants. Fuck anyone who wants to try to explain this away with conspiracy theories when it's obvious what's going on. This country is losing it's mind. We've never had a president so utterly unqualified to lead, so entirely conflicted and corrupt, and with such a loud soapbox. He's created a cult of fear, anger, outrage, division, and belief in the most extreme and unlikely conspiracy theories. As his ex-cabinet members all say, he's a moron; and anyone who buys his bullshit can be dismissed as a moron or else pitied as a victim of a purposeful, multigenerational assault on intelligence, reason and critical thought.

...sure

everything adds up perfectly 

•insufficient postage

•hand delivered, no they weren't, yes they were, no they weren't

•printed labels from a homeless person living in his van

•access to unpublished addresses

•guy right out of central casting complete w/made to order Trumpmobile 

•days before an election 

Why is printing labels in a van impossible? 

Bryen's never heard of a copy shop or printing at work? He doesn't get out much.

He's never heard of Reddit or 4chan or any other site where addresses might leak and he never participated in B&P's around here like so many of us who have had bubble mailers arrive without canceled stamps.

QUIT IT BRYEN!! YOU'RE GRASPING....