A Respectable, Civil Discussion on the Ramifications of a Stolen Election

Fuck off, troll.

I think Mike has it about right but I'll humor you for a minute.

Biden won by every fair measure, arguably the same way and manner in which Trump won four years ago. There have been no state(s) showing an ability, despite some wishing that they could, to produce any fraudulent attempts or successes to show anything to the contrary in an election that has been widely reported as the most secure in our history. Trump is repeatedly failing in court in his attempts to flip the election in his favor. What is missing for you to accept the results of this cornerstone of democracy?

Evidence?  So far you've got that condescending holier than though shit down pact, but you've never had any facts to back any of your claims...   meanwhile, we've got tomes of information backing our various stands, from Russia to voter suppression.  So far, there's a lot of evidence of the Republicans fucking with the election, many different ways, almost every state, some illegal, some based on recent laws passed to squelch voting amungst the black communities...  quite disgusting and anti democratic!!!   
 

Meanwhile, the "whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you" presidential philosophy continues...  

Accuse the other side of all the illegal and unethical acts you yourself are perpetrating, and republicans buy it up as truth, well, sorry Bryen, it's not true, it's all quite easily provable to be false. 

So I ask you, is following all the information given to you by an Australian (Murdock) really make you a patriot, most of us here consider you to be a very arrogant clueless troll...  no evidence, can't renounce a number of social wrongs (child abuse by the catholic church, systemic racism, sexism, etc).

Hope you had a great thanksgiving, try some new sources of information, ones that actually fact check out, we are worried you spend way to much time in a misinformed echo chamber...

longtime lurker.  rarely post.  been wondering for some time now.

bryen = boko ?

Look, man, I know it's a tough loss, but you're going to have to come to terms with it, for it was the will of the people. The time to come forward and make a case has passed. We all have to accept whit is the new reality.

You lost ZOTY fair and square, to a broken phone nonetheless. If anyone was pulling for you it was me. I tried. We just have to move on, B-ry. Losing to a broken, inanimate object has to sting, by you always have your PL&F stubs to get you through.

I have only made one request in all the many years I have been a member of both The PhilZone and Vivalazone, please for the betterment of this site, trash the troll with Trump. On January 20th as Trump is escorted kicking and screaming in handcuffs from the White House, I again urge and implore the administration of this site that it is only appropriate that this fucking imbecilic douche bag Bryen be banished from the zone. I would be most willing to discuss this with the administration if necessary. Enough is enough. We cannot begin to heal and attempt to get back to some sort of normalcy on this site with the likes of this poisonous person continuing to exist here. 

For the record,  you lost it in the burbs bitch. Not the cities you base your pathetic argument on. See you at the Russian Tea Room 1/20/21 4:20 pm. It's on my calendar.  

https://www.brookings.edu/research/bidens-victory-came-from-the-suburbs/

Where's the evidence?  What's the record in the court system so far ... 1 in 39?

SEDITION

BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS

I guess you didn't hear about yet another scathing decision by a judge appointed by Trump yesterday,

that yet again crushed one of his lawsuits, due to, you know, zero evidence of any wrongdoing.

Neat little fake graphic you made there, though.

Troll away the dew, "Bry"......

Here's the answer to your question dumb fuck.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pa-mailin-votes-ballots/

The 1.8 million figure represents the number of mail-in ballots that Pennsylvania reported had been requested by persons registered as Democrats as of the voter registration deadline of Oct. 19. That figure did not include the hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that were also requested by persons registered as Republicans (or persons registered with third parties affiliations or with no party affiliation) as of that date:

More bad info there shithead. Those towns are in Minnesota.  But your genius law team couldn't figure that out.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/11/20/trump-ally-confu...

Ask for evidence, get misinformation...

Charming....

The sad thing will be having to teach our school children how after four years of shitting on our country, a pathetic loser tried to take down our democracy by crying he lost a fair election and 75% of the morons who support him believe him. Sad times indeed.  

 Can someone answer that conundrum?<<<

There's only one conundrum:  in the absence of any credible evidence, how are you not actively subverting the Rule of Law at its very core; and in turn, why should you expect anyone to treat you in the future with a respect for the Rule of Law?

>>>>>how can you teach schoolchildren civics class when the worst kept secret on earth is the 2020 election was stolen?  Can someone answer that conundrum?  Thank you.

A conundrum in your own "mind". only.

As the election was not stolen (yet, Trump still trying), there is no conundrum.

Kindly explain these 10 things..<<<

Why should anyone be kind to someone engaged in Sedition?

with civility and not reading a single item here

FOAD  - far away from here or deadheads / hippies everywhere

i thought this was about the al gore debacle.

Point of Order:

1. Bryen has consistently and repeatedly demonstrated that he is not capable of having a discussion; he spouts fake facts and does not respond to others who attempt to reason with him; and,
2. You cannot reason with someone who is batshit crazy.

Hi Bryen! HahaHahahahahahahaahaha!

Is this the nonsense making your brain spin back and forth Bryen? 

Powell then spun a tale involving deceased Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez; billionaire Democrat George Soros; Lord Malloch-Brown, whom she described as "Mr. Soros' number two person in the U.K."; the Clinton Foundation; "the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections"; and election software designed to facilitate cheating via "an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden." By Powell's account, "we might never have uncovered [this scheme] had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system, and that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in."

Has john's book outsold Art of The Deal yet?

Can't wait.

Seriously, lock this shit-stirring scumbag out already.

Point of Order:

1. Bryen has consistently and repeatedly demonstrated that he is not capable of having a discussion; he spouts fake facts and does not respond to others who attempt to reason with him<<<

True enough, but at least he'll have been warned for the blowback that will come down upon the nation and himself after having subverted the Rule of Law.

If he's going to piss and shit in the headwaters of what makes us live together in relative peace, he ought not be surprised when other things downstream aren't "respectable or civil".  

I'm trying to understand what makes Bryen's posts so special to folks that they need to react. Is there any reason to react or respond other than you want to play his game?
I read that some might like him blocked from posting, and I wonder, would we draw the line on other points of view?

There is nothing respectful about his posting here, yet he would tell us to think there is. We all know what he spouts and presumably, where it comes from, and our irritation that comes from his posting style is his thing.

He's not a good Zoner. Consider scrolling by. If you seriously want to talk about it, send us an email using the Contact button.

The only ramification is we have you and your pathetic posts to sift through...still no evidence ? Sorry but ur still just an idiot troll

From Bryen to Byen

Think Rudy has a popsicle to show you again, you clearly have been spending time there already 

pendejo

Amused.

Trump Lost.

The best thing is that now more people participate in democracy.  

I am hoping that empowers those who had thought their vote doesn't count.

Do the Trump cultists and trolls like 'Bryen'  actually want us to believe that all of the Judges hearing the election fraud cases - even the Trump appointed Judges - are part of the 'conspiracy' by the left, the liberals and Soros!!! to steal the election from Trump? Have they gone completely mad?
 

In a scathing 21-page opinion, the 3rd Circuit said “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does  not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We  have neither here. Voters, not lawyers, choose the  President. Ballots, not briefs, decide elections.” Pennsylvania's Secretary of State certified the results Tuesday, making official Biden's win by more than 81,000 votes.

Trolls  like 'Bryen'  aren't fooling anyone here, and having a window into the Trump cultists' insanity isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not like anyone here believes the utter BS he spews and shares from his far right sites like Parler. Maybe give him more rope here.

lol, someone tweeted some BS  ^
 

The funniest thing is seeing the GOP eat their own and telling Republicans not to vote for the GOP candidates in the Georgia run off because the election is so fraught with fraud. Even Trump echoed those sentiments, he's such a sore loser that he really doesn't care 

Ok, Nostradumbass ^

I seem to remember this:

"YOU LOST, GET OVER IT".

Nothing was stolen. Trump L O S T.

Buh Bye, kook.

Chuck Callesto

Do you know someone that WITNESSED voting irregularities during the 2020 election? Looking for real numbers, please R/T..

You wouldn't even know where to start with a Dylan song bry so do us a favor and don't try to dress up a troll thread, we see through your mask

When you send your next payment ask why we're not contesting election results in all the dominion states instead of just the ones trump lost

I'm starving, What's for dinner.

I'm almost lazy enough for Dominos delivery

although pizza hut delivers these tasty parmesan garlic boneless chicken wings

yum, corporate salt

^^^Fish...all due respect and proprieties, much love, but I've definitely been to more Dylan shows than anyone frequenting this venue, I'm not sure what you're suggesting, but there is no human currently posting that has covered more ground seeing the poet laureate of a generation, maybe you were suggesting otherwise, I also took it up as a hobby to learn a ridiculous amount of Dylan tunes on guitar.
 

bwahahaha, now I know you are full of shit. Low brow masquerade, fella. Only an asshole would assume the way you do

Ok lets. 

2016

I would hope that B-ry doesn't get the boot for simply being a Trumpfuck.

>> but I've definitely been to more Dylan shows than anyone frequenting this venue,-

immense LOL - and an academy award
congrats ZOTY for providing the most laughs and getting (some of) the attention you so desperately crave

" but I've definitely had more psychotic breakdowns than anyone frequenting this venue"
Gold, pure gold I say
 

Different opinion.

Bad zoner.

Cancel.

Well, Trump definitely violates every single principle Gandhi ever had...    

<<Is there any reason to react or respond other than you want to play his game?

judit, it's nothing new. i think we all know that viva would be a ghost town without bryen threads, cannabis threads (during the season) and us arguing over politics the rest of the time. good vibes and birthday threads can only go so far. 

<<Is there any reason to react or respond other than you want to play his game?

judit, it's nothing new. i think we all know that viva would be a ghost town without bryen threads, and us arguing over politics the rest of the time (I guess they're both kinda the same). good vibes and birthday threads can only go so far. 

I'm trying to understand what makes Bryen's posts so special to folks that they need to react. Is there any reason to react or respond other than you want to play his game?<<<

Were the few who initially spoke up against the nazis playing their game?

But yeah, it IS akin to spinning one's wheels in the sand; however, at a rudimentary level, I call it "fair warning" ... since the logical trajectory of his "game" won't be pretty.  Should not all available means to make another see reason be exhausted before force becomes the only avenue that will be understood?  To be clear, Bryen & Co. are the one's who are stoking conflict by virtue of not accepting the results of a free and fair election - with zero evidence to the contrary.

Even if Bryen is simply a cowardly "keyboard warrior", his voice has lent itself to the larger base to provide traction for the Kyle Rittenhouse's that are standing back and standing by.

Trump is currently 1-39 in court and PA has zero pending challenges to the outcome in the state, nevermind any credible claims of "fraud".

Its all over but the cryin, bryen.

Getting back to your "rough look"

This nonsense just serves to highlight your stupidity. 

Defending the Catholic Church, regarding their pedophile priests, and dismissing genocide, by stating that you are sure atrocities were committed by both sides, reveals that you are amoral, with more than a touch evil.

That the zones self proclaimed foremost authority on all things under god and everything turns out to be a fraud is no surprise. Our very own Oz the great and terrible. Your revolution is over. The bums lost. Stick to your other personas

Your idol shits himself, you too I bet -

Open SmartNews and read "Former ‘Apprentice’ Staffer Claims Donald Trump Wore Diapers On Set: ‘He Would Often Soil Himself’" here: https://smartnews.link/news/LhE4 
To read it on the web, tap here: https://smartnews.link/w/bGrU

There is nothing respectful about your continuous trolling and this is an uncivil answer, GFY. 

Rudy was a two term mayor of New York City lol. Wrap your head around that shit

^Giuliani was not the deranged fool that he is today. Remember, he helped take down some mafia heavy weights.  The one that baffles me is John Street serving two terms as Philly's mayor 

> all else fails I could make a living being in a Kingston Trio cover band in Japan,<

Flyren, Welcome back. Was worried about you. Must be so exhausting being a big dick political operative in Trumpland -- you could probably use a relaxing trip to Japan after losing all those court cases. Waiting for the bombshell evidence can be so tiring, I know.

I just saw the pictures you posted of your last trip there:

Regaling the natives with tales of voter fraud

Enjoying the local cuisine

(Hey say what you will about Bryen, at least he's only delusional and not delusional and mean spirited.)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Bryen is the new kirley of the zone with a different playbook.

I disagree. Rudy is another joke that lives on in American politics. Back then when he was mayor he wasn't much different but people choose to believe what they want. 

Guiliani helped create Fox News. 

<<>>

Different opinion.

Bad zoner.

Cancel.

<<>>
 

quite the post by admin. up there. it's the liberal way tho, and becoming ever more apparent. 

also lol @ guliani used to be OK. 

here, just for our neoliberal fucks:

https://www.dailyposter.com/p/breaking-potential-biden-officials

Pyramid, you continue to demonstrate your poor reading comprehension. I didn't say that Giuliani was ok, and I'm not saying that he was a good mayor, but he wasn't batshit crazy, like he is now. 

Or is it that you intentionally misrepresent what people say?

>>> here, just for our neoliberal fucks: <<<
 

maybe we can get some glenn greenwald quotes?

david sirota

lol
 

Rudy might have been just as crazy, but not have had a reason to put it all on display.  How many people do you know that have actually "changed" that much in their adult lives?

I suspect a lot of his current behavior can be explained by a motivation of fear; perhaps from being totally exposed in a most luminous or embarrassing manner.  Another possibility is he's literally afraid for his life.

>How many people do you know that have actually "changed" that much in their adult lives?<

Precipitous cognitive decline?

I hate it when Bryen starts these threads, but I like it when the zone takes them back from the wackadoodle.

All the stolen votes are in the monolith 

With other Biden deniers chiming  in

amazing spin 

kinda birds of a neo feather 

Incontinence ??   Only in America   Ship of fools

shat upon

Precipitous cognitive decline?<<<

It's certainly possible and maybe there's a bit of it in the mix, but I more strongly suspect him acting like a "cornered animal".

You don't have to be a Biden denier to know that bry is a jack ass

Я хотел бы удвоить свои усилия по достижению вежливости, затрагивая этот самый деликатный вопрос, я думаю, что есть непредвиденные последствия, которых некоторые из вас могут не предвидеть, например ... как мы можем претендовать на моральное превосходство в качестве маяка демократия для планеты, если мы позволим этому двигаться вперед? Я думаю, что в сумасшедшей борьбе за отстранение президента всеми правдами и неправдами, с которой у некоторых могут возникнуть проблемы, мы собираемся заплатить неприемлемую цену за принесение в жертву целостности принципа демократии, который является основой всего этого. тонкий эксперимент ... Забудьте на мгновение о президенте и сосредоточьтесь на институте президентства и жизнеспособности республики. Кража Байдена не выдержит и не выдержит. Спасибо.

YA khotel by udvoit' svoi usiliya po dostizheniyu vezhlivosti, zatragivaya etot samyy delikatnyy vopros, ya dumayu, chto yest' nepredvidennyye posledstviya, kotorykh nekotoryye iz vas mogut ne predvidet', naprimer ... kak my mozhem pretendovat' na moral'noye prevoskhodstvo v kachestve mayaka demokratiya dlya planety, yesli my pozvolim etomu dvigat'sya vpered? YA dumayu, chto v sumasshedshey bor'be za otstraneniye prezidenta vsemi pravdami i nepravdami, s kotoroy u nekotorykh mogut vozniknut' problemy, my sobirayemsya zaplatit' nepriyemlemuyu tsenu za prineseniye v zhertvu tselostnosti printsipa demokratii, kotoryy yavlyayetsya osnovoy vsego etogo. tonkiy eksperiment ... Zabud'te na mgnoveniye o prezidente i sosredotoch'tes' na institute prezidentstva i zhiznesposobnosti respubliki. Krazha Baydena ne vyderzhit i ne vyderzhit. Spasibo.

Brian -you're right - they stole this one from us

but let's take solace knowing we got them in 2016

and our message of hate, racism, ignorance and conspiracy theories

is only getting stronger - so let's cross the Rappahannock and hunker down for a while

Ivanka 2024 is just around the corner !

the very future of the kakistocracy  is at stake

Я всегда думал обо всех других неудачах, которые я мог бы заработать на жизнь в кавер-группе Kingston Trio в Японии, но сейчас я просто рад продавать лимонад.

Намасте красивые люди

 https://youtu.be/MBlb5dzHrec 

He's not a zoner with a different opinion.  

He's is a stranger's dog dragging his ass on your carpet.

Фил играл здесь 13 лет назад, это был грандиозный вечер

https://youtu.be/eOKcq39-cXE

"He's is . . . "

Pre-caffeine communication hard.

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thod doesn't approve of independent journalism. 

only corporate entertainment media hacks. 

thod cares now. 

Trump spending $3 million for a recount in Wisconsin only for it to gain Biden 132 more votes. Priceless 

Am I the only one who ran that through a translator?

Rainbow trout?

lol @ BK

Russian spam and disinformation takes many forms, comrade.

> only corporate entertainment media hacks

ogkb, you been spanking it to pics of Amy Goodman?

Trump throwing the FBI and Justice Dept under the bus..both agencies run by Trump appointees. This conspiracy to steal the election from Trump goes beyond the deep state to his own people?!

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fje...

советские шпионы плывут вверх по течению под видом форели

Чем больше тем лучше. Добро пожаловать, жидкая обезьяна.

Думаю, кремль мне воду дозировал! Будь ты проклят, Путин!

This thread got weird.

Always trust a prankster, Timpane. Always.

<<>>

Different opinion.

Bad zoner.

Cancel.

<<>>

It's funny that Racket and pyramidheat interpret my post as suggesting that because someone has different opinions they are bad zoners and should be canceled. Read my post again, please.

Thanks to the people who sent emails about this.

Ligo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXXwX3IPIhI

I'm unveiling a new covid vaccine thread coming soon, Judit. Hopefully, we get some great difference of opinions and pointless arguing that we all have grown to love in most political zoner threads.

Really hoping to see a lot of people feeling uncomfortable and angry for no reason. Should be a classic.

^ soooo needy

not your year bruh

Don't worry, Thod. You will have time to get all whiney on the upcoming thread. A fifty plus yr old man using the word "bruh" is why I keep coming back to this place. Great stuff.

c'mon admit

you like hangin' with the olds

we won't tell you who to vote for (winky face)

Hangin' with the olds>>>
 

You guys are cool for the most part. Sometimes you all try to equate with anger to make up for low T but I don't blame ya'll for that.

<<<>>>Read my post again, please.

i did. seems edited. 

Seems about the same to me. What looks edited?

Edited? No. I haven't made any changes, it's precisely as I wrote and posted.

<<Thanks to the people who sent emails about this.

no problem. sorry the 3rd one was so long!

Has anyone seen Bryen? He seems to be missing and I'm kind of concerned.

Thom

Bryen,You gotta stop, man.  I know it's embarrassing to have voted for an autocratic dictator, but you did.  This embarrassing attempt to overthrow the most secure election in history does nothing but undermine our Democracy.  To ask us to be civil is ridiculous.  The country has just endured the most uncivil president in history.  How does a man take the oath of office as the leader of the free world call countries shitholes?  He calls reporters 'lightweights' when he doesn't like a question.  Mr. Trump played golf one out five days as the president.  These behaviors are infuriating to people.  So if you're looking for a civil debate don't continue this disgusting display.

Admin,  Bryen if a jerk but please do not ban him.  His right to lie should not be oppressed..  Lies are only exposed when they are heard.

Long Live the Grateful Dead.

Yeah, the list needs a good whippin boy

>>>>Trump spending $3 million for a recount in Wisconsin only for it to gain Biden 132 more votes. Priceless 

Trump spending $3 million of his followers' money for a recount in Wisconsin only for it to gain Biden 132 more votes. Priceless.   No sympathy for anyone who donated money to this lost cause.   Trump was a good con man.   I will give him that. 

THE EARTH IS FLAT

Bryen must be flat because he sure isn't too sharp.

Bryen - the entire premise of your post is a non-starter considering there was no fraud.  none.  Zero.  nada.  Not a stolen election.  Chump's own lawyers won't even allege fraud in signed court documents.  Surely by now you must realize that EVERYTHING you have been posting and promising to happen hasn't and won't or maybe your just a paid troll.  Ether way - we here all get a good laugh at your expense so thanks for that 

<<Thanks to the people who sent emails about this.

no problem. sorry the 3rd one was so long!

lol,  pretty sad if someone sent an email.

4winds, in my post yesterday at 3:33, I asked for emails if people seriously wanted to talk about Bryen's posting and ways to address it. I received well thought out emails from 2 thoughtful and smart people, one an active zoner, and the other an old zoner/now lurker, which gave me ideas of the ways those people are thinking about his posts and what's going on here. Gave me more to think about. Too bad JR's email didn't make it.

<received well thought out emails 

<<an old zoner/now lurker

Lol

Did he ever think about just not clicking on the thread? That would solve his issues.

zuckerberg stays far away - IT's ok judit to stay at arms length away as well   - my $ .02

Trump’s Disgraceful Endgame
By The Editors, National Review
November 30, 2020

President Trump said the other day that he’d leave office if he loses the vote of the Electoral College on December 14.

This is not the kind of assurance presidents of the United States typically need to make, but it was noteworthy given Trump’s disgraceful conduct since losing his bid for reelection to Joe Biden on November 3.

Behind in almost all the major polls, Trump stormed within a hair’s breadth in the key battlegrounds of winning reelection, and his unexpectedly robust performance helped put Republicans in a strong position for the post-Trump-presidency era. This is not nothing. But the president can’t stand to admit that he lost and so has insisted since the wee hours of Election Night that he really won — and won “by a lot.”

There are legitimate issues to consider after the 2020 vote about the security of mail-in ballots and the process of counting votes (some jurisdictions, bizarrely, take weeks to complete their initial count), but make no mistake: The chief driver of the post-election contention of the past several weeks is the petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people. The Trump team (and much of the GOP) is working backwards, desperately trying to find something, anything to support the president’s aggrieved feelings, rather than objectively considering the evidence and reacting as warranted.

Almost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. In particular, it’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories about Dominion voting systems. Over the weekend, he repeated the charge that 1.8 million mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania were mailed out, yet 2.6 million were ultimately tallied. In a rather elementary error, this compares the number of mail-ballots requested in the primary to the number of ballots counted in the general. A straight apples-to-apples comparison finds that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested in the primary and 1.5 million returned, while 3.1 million ballots were requested in the general and 2.6 million returned.

Flawed and dishonest assertions like this pollute the public discourse and mislead good people who make the mistake of believing things said by the president of the United States.

Elected Republicans have generally taken the attitude that the president should be able to have his day in court. It’s his legal right to file suits, of course, but he shouldn’t pursue meritless litigation in Hail Mary attempts to get millions of votes tossed out. This is exactly what he’s been doing, it’s why reputable GOP lawyers have increasingly steered clear, and it’s why Trump has suffered defeat after defeat in court.

In its signature federal suit in Pennsylvania, the Trump team argued that it violated the equal-protection clause of the U.S. Constitution for some Pennsylvania counties to let absentee voters fix or “cure” their ballots if they contained an error while other counties didn’t. It maintained that it was another constitutional violation for Trump election observers not to be allowed in close proximity to the counting of ballots. On this basis, the Trump team sought to disqualify 1.5 million ballots and bar the certification of the Pennsylvania results or have the Pennsylvania General Assembly appoint presidential electors.

By the time the suit reached the Third Circuit, it had been whittled down to a relatively minor procedural issue (whether the Trump complaint could be amended a second time in the district court). The Trump team lost on that question, and the unanimous panel of the Third Circuit (in an opinion written by a Trump appointee) made it clear that the other claims lacked merit as well. It noted that the suit contained no evidence that Trump and Biden ballots or observers were treated differently, let alone evidence of fraud. Within reason, it is permissible for counties to have different procedures for handling ballots, and nothing forced some counties to permit voters to cure flawed absentee ballots and others to decline to do so.

Not that it mattered. The court pointed out that the suit challenged the procedures to fix absentee ballots in seven Democratic counties, which don’t even come close to having enough cured ballots to change the outcome in the state; the counties might have allowed, at most, 10,000 voters to fix their ballots, and even if every single one of them voted for Biden, that’s still far short of Biden’s 80,000-plus margin in the state.

The idea, as the Trump team stalwartly maintains, that the Supreme Court is going to take up this case and issue a game-changing ruling is fantastical. Conservative judges have consistently rejected Trump’s flailing legal appeals, and the justices are unlikely to have a different reaction.

Trump’s most reprehensible tactic has been to attempt, somewhat shamefacedly, to get local Republican officials to block the certification of votes and state legislatures to appoint Trump electors in clear violation of the public will. This has gone nowhere, thanks to the honesty and sense of duty of most of the Republicans involved, but it’s a profoundly undemocratic move that we hope no losing presidential candidate ever even thinks of again.

Getting defeated in a national election is a blow to the ego of even the most thick-skinned politicians and inevitably engenders personal feelings of bitterness and anger. What America has long expected is that losing candidates swallow those feelings and at least pretend to be gracious. If Trump’s not capable of it, he should at least stop waging war on the outcome.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-...

Is Tim in pain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzinQgO_fLc

Diaper Don

It's worn thin, Bryen. You're not relevant anymore.

^fuck that guy -- hopefully he gets covid and dies. 

here is all the times biden has been accused of acting inappropriately w/ women and girls. 

this is who you supported in the primary? excuse me, rather, didn't have the balls to take a stance against in the primary?

thank you. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaig...

<as my golf pro often advises me to replicate what they're doing on the PGA Tour>

In the false world you inhabit, is "golf pro" code for your colon-rectal specialist?

I stopped reading at the third bullet point...

Tara reede is mentioned in that third bullet point.

Could you find me a source which doesn't cite discredited accusations. 

Why are you bothered by the fact that I wasn't happy with any of the Democratic candidates in the primary?

just reminding you that your neolib support gave us trump and will give us the next more intelligent, more dangerous trump. 

thank you for your service. 

Cool, thanks for the 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court.

And thanks for those 200+ judges who Trump gave a lifetime appointment.

Thanks for helping to erect a 20-25 year judicial roadblock for most progressive policies. 

you don't understand. haha. 

we're completely fucked b/c of maga dems like yourself, where you've convinced yourself pragmatism is what you practice, yet we're worse off now than ever before in recent memory, going back decades. 

that SC is on you. those judges are on you and your corporate apologist friends. 

and it's only going to get worse. 

odd thing is, you're obviously smart -- so are you afraid of change or do you not support real change for americans -- like m4a, canceling  student debt, ubi, criminal justice reform, livable wage, etc etc. 

your establishment incrementalism has caused the largest ever wealth gap, an environment on fire, and the full blown modern suffocation of minorities. 

proud? 

Damn, Lumber, you're pretty powerful, to be able to cause all those problems.

BK lives in the same state as heat so he's as much to blame as heat, right?

neera tanden is gonna continue to make the bernie bros full melt, again.

fuck your delicate sensibilities.

bernie will vote for her, lol

it was really simple

vote for hillary 

instead of trump.

now covid is out of control

thanks to trump

grow the fuck up.

The majority of Americans are not "progressive". Thus, they will not nominate or elect a "progressive" candidate.

You sound like a white supremacist that doesn't like Democracy. 

^^^thod, thank you. thod mad. thod cares. 

<<<>>>neera tanden is gonna continue to make the bernie bros full melt, again.

fuck your delicate sensibilities.
<<>>>>>>>>>>
 

man, you're such a brainwashed fool. you just run w/ whatever the corporate media entertainment funnels into your hollow skull. 

bernie bros bad. evil. 

neera good. hahahahaahhaa. 

tanden supports cuts to SS. 

where is weird steve to yell that isn't true? 

and yes, when bernie votes for her, itll make him supreme cuck. 

she was a main architect of the aca, bro mad ^

she's the president of the center for american progress, bro mad ^

also dipshit, i never said I support her

but it sure is fun watching you try to untie that knot in your panties.

Ogkb, who would you like to see in key cabinet positions, and why? Please list people who would have a chance of being approved by the Senate.

the aca is horrible legislation and was written by healthcare lobbyists. lol. 

center for american progress is a corporate funded think tank. 

and bro mad ^

>>> and yes, when bernie votes for her, itll make him supreme cuck. <<<

yep, you supported a cuck in janitors clothing

cleanup on aisle 46

dude, you supported warren -- she couldn't even win her own state lol. you also supported bernie in 2016 b/c it was cool. 

i guess i'd rather be mad than stupid as fuck, like you. 

>>> i guess i'd rather be mad than stupid as fuck, like you <<<

 i imagined you just saying that in the mirror 

lol

strange. 

in real life your neoliberal masters said that. 

you're hilarious, got some more?

You know it's gonna get stranger...

lol

is her comment about wanting to take libyan oil as payback for overthrowing their govt hilarious? 

do we still care about kids in cages? 

we support warmongers that are registered blue but not red. 

that's our thoddy. 

you're hovering at a 4.7

i know you got it in ya kid, let's go

Always just attacking others, never "hey here's what I'm doing to improve things"

if this is 4.7, maybe bk was right? 

i'd recommend it. 

fishcane -- you voted for W. come on man. 

Lol at least you have something you think you can latch on to

and in 2004? 

doubming down on the hate. 

rough. 

I bet Heater wasn't even old enough to Vote in 2004.

haha?

or

strange?

I can't decide.

Rough is the constant anger trip but you seem to practice enough. Not good on the body cardiac wise so I'll probably see ya soon

Bryen, the stuff your asking to be explained is easily explained.  The numbers in the pictures you posted are incorrect.  In the case of the numbers from Michigan showing more votes than registered voters it's because on the affidavit Trumps lawyers used numbers from Minnesota to compare to the number of registered voters in Michigan.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/11/20/trump-ally-confu...

The simplest explanation is you're an idiot that believes ridiculous claims without checking up to see if it's factual because it fits with the dumbass narrative you want to believe.

>>> if this is 4.7, maybe bk was right? 

i'd recommend it.  <<<

that's right, fish is the science denying nurse. lol. 

>so are you afraid of change or do you not support real change for americans -- like m4a, canceling  student debt, ubi, criminal justice reform, livable wage, etc etc<

Nope. I'm just trying to figure out how m4a and ubi gets through the Senate. 

The ACA, which you dislike, took 2 years, and cost the Democrats control of the congress. M4a and ubi would have never passed then, and it wouldn't pass now.

Livable wage and criminal justice reform have the best chance. 

But stuff like this is why I question your understanding of the mechanisms of government. That and...

Back to 2016, the Supreme Court was spilt 4/4 liberal/conservative. I believe there were 194 open seats on the federal judiciary. Mitch McConnell stated the the voters would decide who would fill those seats, plus fill maybe 2 or three more Supreme Court seats.

Given these facts, the choice the voters faced was whether it would be Clinton or Trump who would fill these vacancies.

Unfortunately, many progressives in swing states either didn't understand this, or they felt that either candidate would choose poor justices.

What baffles me about you is that you stated that up until 2016 you chose the lesser of two evils, which I assume was the Democrat, in presidential elections. Why would someone who understood the consequences of the 2016 election choose that particular election to vote third party/write in? Did you believe that Clinton and Trump would choose equally poor justices? Did you consider the Supreme Court? 

I'm all science son but like I said, you are gonna play your narrative any way you want anyway so why let the facts play a role. See ya soon!

^lol. tell us why you supported george w bush. what did he have to offer to society and the world that was positive? 

lumber -- you're stuck on 2016 only. why? 

lots of lies, deception, theft, war, bailouts, destruction lead up to this. 

the confirmation of roberts was the complete takeover. 

obama doing nothing and succumbing to his corporate masters resulted in losing congress. 

the pragmatic approach and the establishment's incrementalism is was gave us this mess. 

I didn't support him but it's a  cool fixation for ya so I'll try to make something up

lol you said you voted for W. 

you're a strange guy. 

>>Obama doing nothing and succumbing to his corporate masters resulted in losing congress. the pragmatic approach and the establishment's incrementalism is was gave us this mess. 

You keep saying this. What data are you basing this on? And no, I'm not going to research it myself. Back up what you're saying.

Pot kettle 

never said support 

fish, let this fool chase his own tail

he's just a....

    WRONG !!

You guys are too much -- 

The McLaughlin Group - 
https://youtu.be/QOLF_D7JVZM

fishcane said he voted for george w bush. 

why would i make this up?

thod never answers questions. just posts dumb shit. 

as one of the worst zoners, we expect this. 

One could argue by his logic that just living here indicates support for each elected administration  so not really sure how he lives with himself. Kids in cages dude.. 

^thats insane. talk about reading comprehension. wow. 

we all know republicans are the worst, fish. that includes you. common knowledge for the most part. 

i go hard on the dems b/c they're supposed to be on our side -- we know the gop never was. you're fucked up. 

When did I "stand up for republicans" here?  You yourself said that others are off your "hook" for their votes as they don't "stand up for neoliberals" the way others do, why do I get viewed through a different lens?

lol wow. 

Depheater'd is melting HARD.

It's gonna be OK, buddy....

what's up ned. 

has daddy had coffee and cocaine w/ biden yet? 

are we laughing yet? 

It must be hard to be sidelined the way all the BernieBros were. Your candidate lost to Biden (like Trump). Irrelevance is hard to accept, for both you and TrumpCo.

Here's an orange slice and a participation trophy...

Lol

I can see the tiny bubbles of the slow boil just starting to rise..

>you're stuck on 2016 only. why? <

194 federal judiciary vacancies, one Supreme Court vacancy.(turned into 3 Supreme Court appointments)

Regardless of the past, voters faced a choice in 2016, a choice that will affect policy for a generation. Given this, and the certainty that either Trump or Clinton would be making these appointments, tens of thousands of voters in swing states decided that it was irrelevant whether it was Trump or Clinton making the appointments. You were one of those voters. 

Again, regardless of the past, the 2016 election outcome will affect policy for the next 20-25 years. This fact causes me to wonder if these voters, including you, understand how our government functions. Maybe they(you) believed there would be no discernable difference between the judges that Trump or Clinton would nominate?

>obama doing nothing and succumbing to his corporate masters resulted in losing congress<

No, passing "government run healthcare " lost congress for the Democrats.  The people were Taxed Enough Already! (That's a TEA party reference)

meltman AKA known as heater the hater  - so i will ASK - HOW OLD ARE YOU? - 

neo fill in the blank

king of the "progressives"

neo progressive

"MAGA DEMS"

Proponents of social democracy have identified themselves as promoting the progressive cause.[26]

and your buttermilk dip sounds yummy  - 

                                           Uh oh, Bry.....

Bill Barr, appointed by Donald Trump and one of the most loyal lackies in the president's quiver, who has shown himself willing to twist the duties of the office to benefit Dump at every turn, has said there is no evidence of any fraud that would change the election.

                                          I believe the word is still......Checkmate.

Bryen gives no fucks about mountains of evidence, or the National Review, or Bill Barr. Bryen believes what Bryen believes because Bryen believes what Bryen believes. He's a tautology wrapped in an enigma whose name is mud, and he gives no fucks.

Bryen, bryen, bryen. Namaste, motherfucker.

yep 73

now in '22 and '24 everybody will believe there's no fuckery

meanwhile putie et al will be going hard to steal it again

repugs don't get to set the narrative 

fuck them

they had every intention on stealing it this time, they just couldn't overcome how huge the vote margin was.

Lol, so THod still thinks 2016 was a stolen election. Awesome.

<<  we all know republicans are the worst

Everyone acknowledges this

<< i go hard on the dems b/c they're supposed to be on our side

We respect legitimate criticism bro, what you fail to comprehend is how our gov't actually fucking works,, on this you're clueless. Dems have to try and navigate a ship half full of fools, sleeping with the enemy ain't easy . And it can all be boiled down to # of Senate seats + House seats ya got. My advise to you, move to a red state and impregnate the shit out of the population, creating your own swing county. Some'a you boys seem young and spunky, you can do this.

> move to a red state and impregnate the shit out of the population

I suggest Oklahoma. They've got Tulsa Chris, Kum and Gos, and medical marijuana. I hear it's a hippie paradise. 

Zoner Democrats read the New Yorker every morning and think they understand how the government works, lmao. You guys don't know shit. You're just as clueless as everyone else. 
 

Heard Biden fell down and hurt his foot the other day. Sounds like you got yourself a real winner

Pretty sure the New Yorker only comes out once a week.

I read Hannah Goldfield's restaurant reviews in the New Yorker when I'm on the crapper, but what does that have to do with politics or government?

Edit: You'll have to excuse Timpane's confusing the New York Times with the New Yorker, 73. His phone is broken.

^^^Heard Biden fell down and hurt his foot the other day. Sounds like you got yourself a real winner
 

difference being the transparency of his circumstances vs trump and his shroud of secrecy.

sign of strength for Biden and illustrates the weakness of the one termie diaper boy