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Don't build cities in the desert.   And if you do anyway, don't have a water sucking green manicured grass lawn.  

Save water, save electricity.  Hahaha third world California.

My buddy in real estate tells me it was NYr's that came scarfing up Ct properties bigtime when covid 1st  hit. But for the last 6 months it's been Californians looking to the east for relief of every kind,, drought, fires, insanity. Seems the guild is off that calif lilly.

80% of California's water is consumed by agriculture. Water sucking green manicured grass lawns are a drop in the bucket.

Don't grow alfalfa in a fucking desert.

or almonds and want subsidies....

From KQED.org > https://www.kqed.org/news/11885221/pge-power-shutoffs-possible-starting-...
(there are maps and other tables in the web story)

PG&E Power Shutoffs Possible Starting Tuesday Night, Including Parts of Bay Area

Updated 12:35 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 17, 2021

PG&E says it may shut off power beginning Tuesday night to about 48,000 customers in parts of 18 Northern California counties to prevent its equipment from igniting wildfires amid gusty winds, high temperatures, low humidity and extreme drought conditions.

In the Bay Area, about 6,700 customers could be affected in Napa, Sonoma and Solano counties. Another 350 could have their lights turned off in eastern Contra Costa and Alameda counties.

The potential for what PG&E terms a public safety power shutoff was rated as an "outage watch" on Tuesday, indicating that the utility believes shutoffs are likely.

The National Weather Service San Francisco Bay Area office on Tuesday tweeted a "dry, gusty offshore flow will develop over the interior North Bay Mountains and East Bay Hills/Diablo Range tonight through midweek," and issued a red flag warning for the region starting Tuesday at 11 p.m. and lasting through 3 p.m. Wednesday. The NWS said winds could gust to 45 mph, with maximum gusts of up to 55 mph at the highest elevations.

PG&E says it began notifying customers Sunday night via text, email and automated phone calls. The company adds that customers can look up their address online to find out whether their location is being monitored for the potential shutoff.

Affected areas lie in the Sierra Nevada foothills, the North Coast, the northern Sacramento Valley and the North Bay mountains.

See the number of customers who may be affected in each county in the table below. Customers enrolled in the medical baseline program, which offers lower energy rates for older people and people with disabilities who need extra power to operate ventilators, dialysis machines or mechanized wheelchairs and may be affected by the shutoffs, are also listed.

PG&E equipment has been responsible for some of the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in modern California history, including the 2018 Camp Fire, which killed 85 people in and around the Butte County town of Paradise.

PG&E said in a report filed with state utility regulators in mid-July that Cal Fire was investigating the company's equipment as the possible cause of the Dixie Fire, which has burned more than 604,000 acres, or about 944 square miles, as of Tuesday morning.

> Don't grow alfalfa in a fucking desert.

That should be on a bumper sticker. I'd buy one.

Don't go to college or you'll become dependent on cheap labor, expensive homes and fruits and vegetables that use too much water. 

millionaire mega farmers...republicans..limited govt. but will take water subsidies all day and cry about gavin newsome. seriously, maybe we don't need to grow export crops to china with water they are stealing? 

Move it all up to Oregon and Washington. 

Millionaires are bad.  Bread and soup lines for all!

Racket, do you have 1 millionaire friend?

Not only is 80% of the water used by Ag, but 20% of what they grow is for international export that contributes less than 1% to the states GDP. Just an insane business model in 2021. Each almond takes a gallon of water to produce. 

But the real problem is water isn't electricity and can't be shipped around to where we need it. Small communities like Mendocino that rely only on rain that falls in the area and some very old wells that have gone dry are just about completely out of water, and are talking about running 50 mile of fire hoses through the woods to neighboring towns. Meanwhile my water district spent millions over the last 20 years digging lot's of deep wells, and is not reliant on surface water at all. They don't want people to conserve because they will lose revenue if we all cut back. 

Lot's of solutions they just all cost a lot of money, but solar powered desalination 10 miles off shore would be the real game changer. 

subsidize millionaires, not anything else. going really well.

socialism for the affluent, "free market" for the rest.

If AG wasn't profitable there would be no farmers.  Maybe the government should run the farms?

would it be profitable if not subsidized?

this is difficult for you i understand.

almond wood chopsticks are hot.

Exactly Turts.   Growing rice in the central valley is dumber than dogshit.   Hundreds or maybe thousands of rice paddies evaporating water in 110 degree heat. All for export to China or Japan.  I get super pissed every time I drive to Williams or Sacramento. And I never hear anything about it. WTF?

Yeah, power going off here at 6 pm. See ya all in a few days.

Rolling blackouts in the fifth largest economy in the world.  Efficient.

Yes. And pg&e owns our state gov.   Fuck them.    They should be forced to fix their shit.

we should subsidize them more, they are profitable!

...they are profitable because they are subsidized and wrote the very rules for that when established as a for-profit entity. Good Times.

>>>If AG wasn't profitable there would be no farmers.  Maybe the government should run the farms?

Wow that sentence is right up there with keep your government hands off my Medicaid. You do know that without the billions of tax payers dollars that the Government used to build one of the engineering marvels of the world moving water 700 miles from Shasta to the Imperial Valley there would be next to no farming in California. Most of the the Republican farmers in California have been sucking on the socialist tit of the government for so long that they somehow think they built it all themselves. 

Good to know PG&E owns the Democratic super majority of California.

^^^Racket, do you have 1 millionaire friend?

I have shaken hands with 4 billionaires and smoked a joint with one of them. I also have several millionaire friends.

Hasn't benefited me  monetarily but my friends are cool and I got really fucking high.

don't have a water sucking green manicured grass lawn. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

pretty sure those are illegal now in Vegas and Phoenix

Lake Meade is almost dry - but this has been going on for years.

Racket the noise in your head must be deafening and no water for swimming pools fuck that shit

How about we build infrastructure that retains more water?    Nothing major like that has been built for 50 years.

Or we can just buy it from Nestle.

>>>>>How about we build infrastructure that retains more water? 

Sounds like a dam. I doubt there is any substantial support for building new dams - there is support for breaching existing dams to save fish.

Doesn't need to be a dam.

Lynda and Stewart Resnick have shown that water banking can be obscenely profitable infrastructure.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/08/lynda-stewart-resnick-ca...

I like the desalinization idea
there is a lot of water that needs to be made up

Where do we dump all the salt?

There's no free lunch.

I'm sure somebody can find a way to make money off of selling the salt
store it at the salt flats in the meantime

it takes a whole bunch more water to raise beef cattle than to grow almonds.

Not to mention the gas problem with the cows

there's nothing like a good steak 

>>Where do we dump all the salt?

Spread it out in areas of the country where low blood pressure is prevalent.

a short but sweet 2016 Pen State blog about water usage numbers for people, plants and animal farms.

https://sites.psu.edu/skf5159revisedblogs/2016/05/03/water-sustainabilit...

dairy and animal farming use far more water than plant farming. Although, it does mention that alfalfa is the #1 water using crop in CA and is exported to feed cattle. 

It is proven that in industrialized countries, moving towards a vegetarian diet can reduce the food-related water footprint of people by 36 percent; A vegan diet can reduce the food-related water footprint of people by 52 percent.

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Fake food sucks.

>>>>   It is proven that in industrialized countries, moving towards a vegetarian diet can reduce the food-related water footprint of people by 36 percent; 

How about we reduce population growth by 36%?

How?

Some sort of plague?

There are plans for more reservoirs. There is a big one planned for just north of Sacramento, but it is taking way to long they need to speed that up. The salt problem is only a problem if you dump it near shore. That's why they should look into offshore solar and wind powered desalination. If you dump the salt there it is much less of a problem, but yeah we are nowhere near to being able to make that a reality at this point.  

There are plans for more reservoirs. There is a big one planned for just north of Sacramento, but it is taking way to long they need to speed that up. The salt problem is only a problem if you dump it near shore. That's why they should look into offshore solar and wind powered desalination. If you dump the salt there it is much less of a problem, but yeah we are nowhere near to being able to make that a reality at this point.  

put the salt next to the nuclear waste...