So the little man asks...

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"Dad,  Why are African Americans so good at sports?"   And then asked why Asian kids are the smartest?  Hard questions to answer for me.  Is it not true that folks of different ethnic backgrounds have different inherent attributes than other races.  Some are smarter.  Some are more athletic.  Some have bigger dicks.  Etc. Etc.  Or is that not true?

 

Are you Polish?

Ask Jimmy the Greek.

Chinese kids were always the best at mathematics when I attended High School.

You could say that it's genetic, but a big part of the reality is the parents enforcing studious behavior.

I was thinking Jimmy the Greek.  Now answer the question.

Are African Americans less intelligent as a whole than whites and Asians?  Genetically speaking.

So when you say 'little man' are you referring to Slacker?

Are all Chicagoans overweight, drive Oldsmobile sedans and have cop 'staches?

why not tell your child the truth??

 

why butter it up, and slather it with half truths?  children can sense lies, and lying, or moving 'around' an issue will cause suspicion in the child, eventually losing trust in you...

",,,Are all Chicagoans overweight, drive Oldsmobile sedans and have cop 'staches?.."

The cop-stache is necessary to filter out the Stank from the Chi-O-Pizza.

is little man homeschooled? 

Nobody will answer the question.  Most Chicagoans do not drive Oldsmobile Sedans.  And Chicagoan is not a race.

Little man goes to public school.  He is number one in his class.  Special advance classes.  Straight A's.  Captain on all his sports teams.  A stud.  I could never home school.  That's for the Evangelicals.

Neither is African American or Asian.

I'm going to make a wild guess that OP is of Euro-Caucasian descent,  and knows nothing about the secret Athletic training camps...

Are White Sox fans less intelligent than Cubs fans?

>little man goes to public school.  He is number one in his class.  Special advance classes.  Straight A's.  Captain on all his sports teams.  A stud.  I could never home school.  That's for the Evangelicals.

 

so he's got African American and Chinese ancestry! 

Are White Sox fans less intelligent than Cubs fans?>

 

yes

I for one am tired of all the Oldsmobile stereotyping here.

Next thing ya know,  Pontiac slander will be in vogue.

Time to stomp the Hate.

so he's got African American and Chinese ancestry! >>

He's the Captain of his sports teams.  Not the best player.  3 of the top 5 students are Asian.  Little guy might be number 2.  It;s close.  Answer the question.>>

Some may remember Arthur Ashe the tennis great.  Besides being a great pro he operated a sports research foundation. 

They addressed the prevelance of African Americans in sports in the modern era. 

Some conclusions:

For every white family pushing a kid towards upper level sports there are ten black families.

Historical precedent is entertainment and sports were among the first areas available to blacks in a racist society.  Teacher/preacher if college was available.

 Other stuff but my memory is fuzzy. 

As for Asian kids being the smartest that is a cultural stereotype. Very complicated.  I taught many Asian kids.  Just like all groups talent exists.  So dies mediocrity. Family dynamics, in some families the second son or daughters are not favored. The longer they are in the US the more that breaks down of course, like all immigrant groups.  They become American kids fir the good and not so good sometimes.

Another wrinkle is historical.  The two world cultures who developed literacy earliest are Chinese ( around 7,000 years) and Jewish (around 5,800, my numbers are approximate) so that is a serious head start in the brain game.

Truth is, academically gifted students exist in all cultures and is all places.  Don't be fooled by stereotype and limited personal anecdotal "evidence". 

>Answer the question

The answer is NO.

 

 

 

 

 

"Hard questions to answer for me."

So you're unable to explain genetics to your child?  Or are you unwilling to deal with reality?

In about ten years, when we have finally gor DNA completely mapped out and explained, a lot of people are going to have their heads explode.

Thanks AIG.

Yes Thom. 

That's why I'm asking.  Sorry it is complicated to me.  What do you suggest?  Please.  What do you mean by heads exploding?  I seriously would love to know.

 

Thanks

Who's got the big dicks?

 

For every white family pushing a kid towards upper level sports there are ten black families>>>>

 

No way I believe this

Why are African Americans so good at sports?"

The most likely answer is because of some physical traits they inherited:  A higher center of gravity, or a denser skeletons and lower levels of body fat.

Why are Asian kids are the smartest?

They are not.

Who's got the big dicks?>>>

 

Not Irish Tim.

for fucks sake, Thom.  really?

I honestly think you are just trolling now.

For your sake I certainly hope so.

Not only do you lack understanding of DNA research you are ignorant of history, particularly Middle Ages and colonialist periods. 

Which world city had the most doctors, scientists, and libraries during the Middle Ages?

Tibuktu, Mali.

(That's in Africa)

>>> in some families the second son or daughters are not favored.

 

There's an entire generation of Chinese kids with NO siblings. That will be a very interesting continuing sociological study as they move through the different stages of life.

The Russians can drink the most Vodka

Thom meant eugenics not genetics.

Is it that you Jelly?  If so it's great to see you.  That's not you is it?

>>>For every white family pushing a kid towards upper level sports there are ten black families>>>>

 

its true.... why are europeans better at ski racing? or bobsledding? because the culture in the families and towns foster it... its a way to promote success, and better retirement for mom and pop...

 

what about canadian hockey.... its forced into the youth from age one....

 

blacks are tall and lanky. thus better at B ball.... its a big part of the culture...

 

asians.... naturally smart, and focused in learning, and its promoted to them as kids......

 

dad needs to get a grip here, and politically correct is bullshit.... dont teach your kid political correctness, rather logic, clear thinking, and 'what is real'...

"Hockey is the Opium of the Masses."

 

dad haz no grip?

>>>>Thanks AIG.

 

There is another question that I have pondered over.I guess my online friend and 3D acquaintance doesn't mind  sharing the confusing acronym with the insurance giant.

 

Pholks, the G is a q. He is by far one of the most intelligent ones here. It's a "q".

As if, Jaz. 

OP, maybe bullshit your way with an answer. He'll figure it out that there ain't no answer to questions like that. It just is.

My bad.  I noticed that later

I did the same thing, Bob.

I would say there are no hard and fast rules, always exceptions, but there are patterns we cant really ignore. Id talk about the Nature vs. Nurture. Then Id say great question.  Lets talk more about it as you get older.

>>>>>Thom meant eugenics not genetics.

 

I love you JR.  You too BigB.

Aiq, is kind of what I aspire to be as I age.

Thom, Stu, don't ever change.  You guys are great too.

 

My first Viva thread Timmy.  I need to relax and let it come to me .  I love you also my old PZ phriend

 

I went to a very good High School and took the Math courses all the way through Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Pre-Calc and Calculus.

The Chinese kids were always the top performers.  It's easy to say "They worked harder" but having co-existed with them for 5 years, I would definitely say that they are racially superior at Math.  While that might be a controversial statement, it was my personal experience at the time.

The Korean kids were pretty good and worked hard, but not score 99% or so each exam.

Like a Husky vs. a Doberman

4 Zoners : 1 Cup

Stu,

The Chinese kids in your school probably were not a representative sample of all Chinese. They were the relatively rich, well fed and cared for children of immigrants.

(I'm not commenting on the possible superiority of Asians over all peoples, just the sampling method.)

>>>>>>blacks are tall and lanky. thus better at B ball.... its a big part of the culture...

 

>>>>>>asians.... naturally smart, and focused in learning, and its promoted to them as kids......

 

 

I don't have the answers, but if one is stereotyping any race or group from a geographical area, go to the source.

 

I would want to look at stats from the entire continent of Africa:  Maybe a disproportionate amount of Africans who were abducted and taken to the Americas were bigger, stronger, more athletic than the general population.  I'm thinking about the "pigmy" people like Aka, Efé and Mbuti, for example.

 

For stereotypes about "Asians" I'd like to find out what the difference is between those who have successfully immigrated into the USA vs the general population.  Would it be safe to assume that US Immigration would have a bias towards the more highly educated adults who would like to move into our country?

 

And, of course, attainable success should be considered regarding current USA citizens, related to community, resources, etc.

 

Again, no concrete answers from me, but proposed questions.

The Hüsky is not really a fighting Dog.  While mine grew up with Pit Bulls as mentors, he is too good-natured for the purpose of being a guard-dog or such.

I've only seen H.I.M. bare his fangs once or twice at Dog-Park when some large br eed went for his throat, not in the spirit of "Playtime".

So he's definitely capable of defending himself, but totally non-aggressive.

And Ender is correct; those Chinese kids who always kicked ass at math were from family backgrounds that cultivated academic success to an extreme.

Their parents were Surgeons, Doctors or Doctorate types. They were definitely quite competitive not just in Math, but other subjects.

>>>>>>blacks are tall and lanky. thus better at B ball.... its a big part of the culture...

 

Especially Pygmies.

Ned, we've got room for 5.  Don't snub us.

>>>>I need to relax and let it come to me .

You are doing fine, good to have you back, welcome home.  Ender quit the football pool, you should come back this year.

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"...Especially Pygmies..."

.I Have a genuine Pygmie chair. It's carved from Ebony or something quite similar.  Can't find the photo right this moment, but it is Pygmie-licious.

 

Italians make the best meatballs...fact!

Bryant Gumbel has an opinion about this.

 

I think George Muresan was just as tall as Manute Bol.

i've always heard that black people have a larger achilles tendon which increases athletic performance. maybe it was jimmy the greek who said that. 

Basketball threads belong in the sports folder. 

>>dad needs to get a grip here<<

He's been cutting his Driver hard. Grips all messed up.

Ender quit the football pool, you should come back this year.>>>

 

Im in if Ender is out.   lolol,

What's up B? You still working out of a bathroom?

Hi Ender.  I hope you are well.  I still don't think I said the mean things you accused me of.  But yep I pretty much work in the toilet.  I put it "out of order" a while back which works sort of.  I have to answer question "Is bathroom out of order?" a lot.

>Would it be safe to assume that US Immigration would have a bias towards the more highly educated adults who would like to move into our country?

 

Asian immigrants immigrated to Hawaii first and worked on plantations, later they were used as a source of cheap labor during the gold rush working in the mines, factories and to build the transcontinental railway. would be curious to know how well educated there immigrants were in their home countries. obviously hard working people, as are most immigrants.

The current Asian immigrants are wealthy, essentially buying citizenship - along with real estate, at least here in California. the new upper class in China are looking for investments, and US citizenship - most speak English better than people born here - and are well educated, aka smart which I attribute that to their wealth. that's not to say all rich people are 'smart' - they have the means to pay for the best education money can buy. so yes, they value education, more so than many Americans - regardless of wealth. 

>>  I still don't think I said the mean things you accused me of. 

I'm good with you if you're good with me. I don't even remember the specific details of our argument.

And you can have my spot on the fantasy league.

. obviously hard working people, as are most immigrants

I will leave it at that Ender.  You're a good dude.  I apologize if I pissed ya off.  You are a fun zoner.  We good.

"Why are middle aged Asian housewives in pink housedresses driving huge Lincolns or Cadillacs in Calif such HORRIBLE drivers?"

I don't even live in Calif, only visited here & there, yet I've witnessed this Stereotype FAR too often for it not to be true.

Well it is true that Jews have the biggest Dicks.

That's why we trim off the excess, so as to not totally freak the Women out.

My question to my parents when I was 10 years old:

"Mom/Dad, if we hate the Jews so much, why did we move to a Jewish neighborhood?"

Is it fair to say that not every black is a great athlete and not every Asian is great at math?

All Irish have tiny dicks

 

FACT 

Half Eaten Cigarette on Thursday, March 2, 2017 – 11:51 am 

>>>For every white family pushing a kid towards upper level sports there are ten black families>>>>

No way I believe this

 

I was just reporting the conclusion of the Ashe Foundation's research.  My limited anecdotal experience from teaching in majority black schools was that sports is a very big deal and many are counting on a career.

I would advise them to think of sports as a ticket to a scholarship.  For the most part my students came from poverty impacted families during that part of my practice.