This reminded me of something that John Fahey said about Charley Patton, how there would be these dances where Patton would perform and he wouldn't even be playing a guitar; he would just get the people all riled and whooped up and dancing just by doing a clap or a stomp, and the rhythm would be so infectious.
I think of "Tico Tico" as a song, and most of the stuff I listen to doesn't have any lyrics, but all of the tracks are usually registered with BMI or another performance rights organization, so..
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Are songs without words "tunes"? Compositions? Instrumentals? I don't know the answers, but have been thinking about it since reading the subject of the thread.
BMI makes a distinction between songwriters and composers for people joining BMI: "Join the top songwriters and composers who have chosen BMI to ensure they get paid when their music gets played." Does that clarify anything? I have no idea.
>>Are songs without words "tunes"? Compositions? Instrumentals? I
ASCAP says compositions; with-or-with-out-lyrics - registered with ASCAP or not.
BMI is now defunct and a Sony front & all the data on the net is incorrect and far from current.
UMG is very interesting. Last week they man handled some ® for Jerry Garcia from the GD. Looks like they did not have digital tools and went to copy write court with the actual song books in hand. Old school shit.
It brought a tear to my eye & it does now, that this mammoth -UMI has had a bad rap- had to step on some toes. Warner Brothers just bowed there, head "This Grateful Dead show is Jerry's show-stand the Fuck Back all"
Bluelight, the last paragraphs you wrote, starting with "UMG", are pretty confusing to me. I have no idea what you're saying... if it matters to you, could make them clearer? I don't need you to explain them, just write them in a way that is little easier to read. Thanks.
I think i can understand some of what Bluelight wrote, Judith. Let me try to translate:
“UMG is very interesting. Last week they man handled some ® for Jerry Garcia from the GD. Looks like they did not have digital tools and went to copy write court with the actual song books in hand. Old school shit.
It brought a tear to my eye & it does now, that this mammoth -UMI has had a bad rap- had to step on some toes. Warner Brothers just bowed there, head "This Grateful Dead show is Jerry's show-stand the Fuck Back all"
i believe “UMG” is Universal Music Group. It sounds like he is saying that last week, UMG aggressively acquired some trademarked material from the Grateful Dead on behalf of Jerry Garcia’s estate. He is implying that it is somehow related to material in the digital domain and as a way of proving their case, they went to “copy write” court with old song books. It’s all definitely very vague and leaves the reader thinking that either the author enjoys teasing his readers or doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Personally I chose the former because I believe in humanity. Others here are not so sure.
On to paragraph two!
I have no idea what’s going on in paragraph two. The author is crying about something that he used to cry about in the past but I can’t make out what. I’m not sure what “mammoth-UMI” is, my best guess is it’s a typo. Whatever it is, it has a bad rap and had to step on some toes. I’m pretty sure Warner Brothers is the parent company of Rhino Records, who I believe now owns the GD catalog. I think he is saying that they have taken some sort of step back and are allowing the estate of Jerry Garcia to take control of something.
There are 3 Major Music Publishers in the world; dominating 95% of the music publishing rights TAM (Total-Available-Market)
Sony / CBS
Warner Brothers
UMG
UMG is new to the party as a music broker publisher with no physical CDs being manufactured
They are a congruent of young cutting edge Digital Copy Right attorneys hailing from Harvard, UCLA. MIT and Berkley that have taken over the music industry by storm.
UMG got off on the bad foot by taking on the ® music battles of The Who & Zep.
Before I set sail, I profiled there top 6 executives and contacted one of them and a hunch they would love what I am doing & I was right. I am at higher level of that food chain as the cards fell- but it's nice to know I have not pissed off UMG in any way and they worked with me on the Who, Elton, and now Jerry Garcia's body of work- as a hired gun and many others & covered my back the whole time I was being prolific & keeping them employed for many years to come ~
<<<<Bluelight, the last paragraphs you wrote, starting with "UMG", are pretty confusing to me. I have no idea what you're saying... if it matters to you, could make them clearer? I don't need you to explain them, just write them in a way that is little easier to read. Thanks
Me, after every single Bluelight post.
Also "copy write" ?
Not a spelling Nazi, but considering the topic and
with all his expertise / dealings with Susan from youtube, one would think he'd get that one "write".
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You seem to be experiencing
You seem to be experiencing some sort of a crisis of faith.
All these sorts of songs are OK. You're OK. You'll get through this.
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I prefer them.
I prefer them.
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Great to listen to while
Great to listen to while reading and writing.
Also good to focus on the rhythm and groove without the additional stimuli of words.
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...aren't really songs, are
...aren't really songs, are they?
would 'the mexican hat dance' be considered a song or a tune?
i'm not a musician nor a musicologist; just an enthusiast.
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Are the best.
Are the best.
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>> ...aren't really songs,
>> ...aren't really songs, are they?
This reminded me of something that John Fahey said about Charley Patton, how there would be these dances where Patton would perform and he wouldn't even be playing a guitar; he would just get the people all riled and whooped up and dancing just by doing a clap or a stomp, and the rhythm would be so infectious.
I think of "Tico Tico" as a song, and most of the stuff I listen to doesn't have any lyrics, but all of the tracks are usually registered with BMI or another performance rights organization, so..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Embryonic Journey seems to
Embryonic Journey seems to work ok...
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The Camera Eye - Rush
Happy Hunting Ground - The Church
Jessica - ABB
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not sure about 'The Mexican
not sure about 'The Mexican Hat Dance" but Jessica and Liz Reed have no words but I like em a lot and consider them songs
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"Ode to Joy" is not a song?
"Ode to Joy" is not a song?
I guess it is just "music".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wod-MudLNPA
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cH1u5j-1QZw#fauxfullscreen
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Sea Level has some nice
Sea Level has some nice instrumentals (Allman Bros offshoot)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joa03zDii1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Vr5wMQYFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzTA4NWCheE
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xa_cXkSFSc
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The Pat Metheny Group
The Pat Metheny Group
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Elp...fanfare for a common
Elp...fanfare for a common man
Pictures at an Exhibition
In memory of elizabeth reed..ABB
Phish ...2001
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And the great 60 s
And the great 60 s instramental...
Classical Gas...mason williams
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_bpS-cOBK6Q
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3MQi0CfC_X8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlAS0_x3fqU
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Are songs without words
Are songs without words "tunes"? Compositions? Instrumentals? I don't know the answers, but have been thinking about it since reading the subject of the thread.
BMI makes a distinction between songwriters and composers for people joining BMI: "Join the top songwriters and composers who have chosen BMI to ensure they get paid when their music gets played." Does that clarify anything? I have no idea.
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I use to have BMI rights on a
I use to have BMI rights on a bunch of songs, my buddy Brady was VP for a long time...
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>>Are songs without words
>>Are songs without words "tunes"? Compositions? Instrumentals? I
ASCAP says compositions; with-or-with-out-lyrics - registered with ASCAP or not.
BMI is now defunct and a Sony front & all the data on the net is incorrect and far from current.
UMG is very interesting. Last week they man handled some ® for Jerry Garcia from the GD. Looks like they did not have digital tools and went to copy write court with the actual song books in hand. Old school shit.
It brought a tear to my eye & it does now, that this mammoth -UMI has had a bad rap- had to step on some toes. Warner Brothers just bowed there, head "This Grateful Dead show is Jerry's show-stand the Fuck Back all"
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Bluelight, the last
Bluelight, the last paragraphs you wrote, starting with "UMG", are pretty confusing to me. I have no idea what you're saying... if it matters to you, could make them clearer? I don't need you to explain them, just write them in a way that is little easier to read. Thanks.
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I would call it a composition
I would call it a composition, but if it originally had lyrics and is done absent of them...then that is an instrumental :) .
One of my favs is Maggot Brain !!
This is a good one...
kidd funkadelic - maggot brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aAzdHnYfuk
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Wow, just found this one..
Wow, just found this one...Breathtaking !!
On Violin..
Lili Haydn Performing Maggot Brain - Live 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APP6-4i_pR4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QFnYZSV6Js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxzZxmI9Ko
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F R A N K E N S T E I N
F R A N K E N S T E I N
I don’t think it has any lyrics
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NDSBV0vTfTo
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4MFbn8EbB4k
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How about a little bandoneon
How about a little bandoneon music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=benTjI0goBw
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I think i can understand some
I think i can understand some of what Bluelight wrote, Judith. Let me try to translate:
“UMG is very interesting. Last week they man handled some ® for Jerry Garcia from the GD. Looks like they did not have digital tools and went to copy write court with the actual song books in hand. Old school shit.
It brought a tear to my eye & it does now, that this mammoth -UMI has had a bad rap- had to step on some toes. Warner Brothers just bowed there, head "This Grateful Dead show is Jerry's show-stand the Fuck Back all"
i believe “UMG” is Universal Music Group. It sounds like he is saying that last week, UMG aggressively acquired some trademarked material from the Grateful Dead on behalf of Jerry Garcia’s estate. He is implying that it is somehow related to material in the digital domain and as a way of proving their case, they went to “copy write” court with old song books. It’s all definitely very vague and leaves the reader thinking that either the author enjoys teasing his readers or doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Personally I chose the former because I believe in humanity. Others here are not so sure.
On to paragraph two!
I have no idea what’s going on in paragraph two. The author is crying about something that he used to cry about in the past but I can’t make out what. I’m not sure what “mammoth-UMI” is, my best guess is it’s a typo. Whatever it is, it has a bad rap and had to step on some toes. I’m pretty sure Warner Brothers is the parent company of Rhino Records, who I believe now owns the GD catalog. I think he is saying that they have taken some sort of step back and are allowing the estate of Jerry Garcia to take control of something.
Does that help? It didn’t really help me
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Judit hope this helps.
Judit hope this helps.
There are 3 Major Music Publishers in the world; dominating 95% of the music publishing rights TAM (Total-Available-Market)
Sony / CBS
Warner Brothers
UMG
UMG is new to the party as a music broker publisher with no physical CDs being manufactured
They are a congruent of young cutting edge Digital Copy Right attorneys hailing from Harvard, UCLA. MIT and Berkley that have taken over the music industry by storm.
UMG got off on the bad foot by taking on the ® music battles of The Who & Zep.
Before I set sail, I profiled there top 6 executives and contacted one of them and a hunch they would love what I am doing & I was right. I am at higher level of that food chain as the cards fell- but it's nice to know I have not pissed off UMG in any way and they worked with me on the Who, Elton, and now Jerry Garcia's body of work- as a hired gun and many others & covered my back the whole time I was being prolific & keeping them employed for many years to come ~
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Henri Mancini; The Music
Henry Mancini; The Music from Peter Gunn (1959)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lztZMFzl9fo
Herp Alpert and the Tijuana Brass; A Taste of Honey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC38-qqiVgg&list=PLD6028A393D90681A
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I think I got it, whatever it
I might have it, whatever it is. Thanks, Bucky and Bluelight.
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Every picture tells a story:
Every picture tells a story:
This is the ® for GD 71 Mini. It can get crazy. This a simple one. But not pretty..
UMG is now a ® participant on this via Sugaree..
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<<<<Bluelight, the last
<<<<Bluelight, the last paragraphs you wrote, starting with "UMG", are pretty confusing to me. I have no idea what you're saying... if it matters to you, could make them clearer? I don't need you to explain them, just write them in a way that is little easier to read. Thanks
Me, after every single Bluelight post.
Also "copy write" ?
Not a spelling Nazi, but considering the topic and
with all his expertise / dealings with Susan from youtube, one would think he'd get that one "write".
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Watermelon in eater hay
Watermelon in eater hay
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B9DqykUsqRY
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Song With No Words (Tree With
Song With No Words (Tree With No Leaves)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlPoum6TSBQ
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>>with all his expertise /
>>with all his expertise / dealings with Susan from YouTube, one would think he'd get that one "write".
Go to best buy and purchase a new PC & HDTV and get real. Let me know when you have done that & I will read on..
If you have an Apple computer or browse on Bing, monitoring spelling in the World-Wide-web is perfect for you
The world is flying so fast by you-spell-checkers its not funny & you are all "missing the picture"
Roll your sleeves up & do some home work to know how silly "spelling is to me". Oh my God
Shinbox(sp) ?
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Marooned - The Division Bell
Marooned - The Division Bell -- Pink Floyd = Just Awesome
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGqt1AgVYyg
I Promise not to come in your mouth
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTrZAq7Q8Wk
Vinyl (Sony PS-X5) - Frank Zappa - Blessed Relief
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U2M5OSgFZRE
Twenty Small Cigars