Why is the name "Spearchucker Jones" considered "Racist" ??
Are you saying that it discriminates against the multitude of races who(m) have thrown spears throughout history, such as the Welsh, the Japanese, the Poles, the Irish, the French, the Chinese, the Canadians ???
I'm not quite getting your point. Perhaps I need more time in California, land of Racism.
So they don't teach English in your mom's basement, and I get that. But educate the topic; don't just be a hoser. We eagerly await your edificationism.
Yeah see, Garage, I accept your argument, but if I was a politard correct FREAK, I could say "White Person" is a term of racism. Are you saying that pigment-challenged folk are somehow inferior to the yellow, brown, black and red races ??
My spastic tangent would go something like "We should all be regarded as persons of Grayness, without color, lacking sex. As long as we all keep paying Taxes to our Insect Overlords, it's a Happy Uniracial World "
as usual you don't contribute anything of merit to the conversation.
But how's your junk supply today ? Does it concern you when you "score" from any particular race of dealer or pharmacist, or are they (to you) all one grey shade of 'Nice People who Sell Dope' ??
If you've taken a break from the junkie thang for a while, I'm still interested in your sincere reply.
Do you prefer the Chinese dope over the Mexican stuff ?
I guess I'm curious how your concepts of 'racism' are defined by your hard drug lifestyle. Please illuminate us.
So this is the name of a character on M*A*S*H? If it was, I think its pretty cynical and part of the movie and show's dark humor. Sort of like the character named "Token" from South Park. It's pointing out and making fun of racism rather than promoting it.
>>>>>Why is the name "Spearchucker Jones" considered "Racist" ?? Are you saying that it discriminates against the multitude of races who(m) have thrown spears throughout history, such as the Welsh, the Japanese, the Poles, the Irish, the French, the Chinese, the Canadians ???
Stu, the point is, by calling someone of African ancestry a "spearchucker", the racist using that term is implying that the subject and his ethnic homies are STILL out there chucking spears, whereas the other groups you mentioned are assumed to be "more advanced" in having given up the chucking of spears at some point in the past.
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"Spearchucker" was that character's nickname because in the novel he was a great javelin thrower as well as great football player.
I don't think a great javelin thrower of any color being nicknamed "Spearchucker" is racist, but then again the novel, movie & TV show were set in the '50s, when "white was right" and racism was acceptable (when America was great?), but then again again the '50s were also when nicknames were extremely common for all sports heroes.
ateix, before you get too wound up to attend your next antifa or scientology meeting, I'll explain my racial viewpoint in a concise manner.
Let's say you (pasty white dude) and a Japanese lady and a Old Norwegian fellow all get hit by a freight train near my place at 4:40 PM.
I'm fifty miles from town, and the coroner hates coming out here after the Vultures eat their eyes.
I've only got one wheelbarrow, so which one do I choose to BBQ and feed to the Dogs ?
~ The old guy is probably full of heart and blood pressure medication, although Norwegians tend to eat pretty well.
~ Japanese lady might eat some Soy, but mostly Fish, Vegetables, Fruit, Rice and a bit of beef and poultry.
~ PWD gobbles all sorts of snack-chips laced with MSG and takes various pills to wake up, go to sleep, cope with stress, and counteract the other pills.
Now these are all assumptions, based upon observations.
Of course I'm going to either leave them all there (because there's plenty of Dog Food) or pick the Japanese lady. She is the lightest to transport in the wheelbarrow, has the cleanest diet, and most likely free of drugs.
And in case you're wondering, they never saw it coming. That train was supposed to be there at 4:44.
Dont forget original nickname for Father Mulcahy is "dago red". Typical during wartime, in a squad, everyone had a nickname ...hot lips, hawkeye, trapper john, painless (dentist) , radar, etc etc etc
Spearchucker made it to tv series , but only for first season. And although Father Mulcahy reveals his long long middle name in an episode, the "dago red" nickname never makes it to the show.
Another interesting tidbit about spearchucker character- he was portrayed in the movie by Fred "the hammer" williamson, who would have a tough time in todays NFL. He got the nickname as a rookie w 49ers for playing too aggresive as a db in practice. He was later traded to Chiefs where he self promoted the nickname (this is in early sixties...guy was ahead of his time w that), by telling his teammates he was gonna "hammer" someone, and he was known for taking opposing players down (and out), with a forearm to the helmet. He appeared in the first Super Bowl vs the Packers, and pregame, announced that he would have 2 "hammers" and knock two packer recievers (one being brian dowling...b.d. character from doonesbury, but thats a differant story) out of thw game. Can you imagine anyone saying that today? Lol...you cant even tackle anyone anymore, let alone forearm someone to the head, so, anyway, in a little twist of fate, The Hammer was knocked out of Super Bowl 1 himself when he took a knee to the head.
The name, Slowpoke Rodriguez, was only slighly racist, but the character, Speedy's perpetually stoned and wasted lazy Mexican cousin, was pretty racist, IMO...
^As a child i interpreted in the terms of family dynamics. Speedy was smart and industrious, while slowpoke was not. Reminded me a couple of my own cousins.
That's a pretty damn impressive list! I heard that Harrison played on it but never thought that it was actually true. Just wiki'ed it and saw how it all came together.
Growing up in MA there was a gas station/tire shop nearby that was owned and staffed by Italian-Americans. They had a humorous sign out front about tires. I forget the first part, but the last line was something like "And when dago flat, dago wop wop wop".
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 09:29 pm
Why is the name "Spearchucker
Why is the name "Spearchucker Jones" considered "Racist" ??
Are you saying that it discriminates against the multitude of races who(m) have thrown spears throughout history, such as the Welsh, the Japanese, the Poles, the Irish, the French, the Chinese, the Canadians ???
I'm not quite getting your point. Perhaps I need more time in California, land of Racism.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 09:48 pm
Something something Disco
Something something Disco Sealion. Incel.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 09:57 pm
So they don't teach English
So they don't teach English in your mom's basement, and I get that. But educate the topic; don't just be a hoser. We eagerly await your edificationism.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 09:57 pm
Why is the word nigger racist
Why is the word nigger racist? A white person can be a nigger too. You fucking idiot.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:01 pm
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:08 pm
Yeah see, Garage, I accept
Yeah see, Garage, I accept your argument, but if I was a politard correct FREAK, I could say "White Person" is a term of racism. Are you saying that pigment-challenged folk are somehow inferior to the yellow, brown, black and red races ??
My spastic tangent would go something like "We should all be regarded as persons of Grayness, without color, lacking sex. As long as we all keep paying Taxes to our Insect Overlords, it's a Happy Uniracial World "
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:20 pm
Is admin monitoring this
Is admin monitoring this thread?
Disco Stu's comments don't seem to fit the inclusive Viva mission statement.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:31 pm
Junior,
Junior,
as usual you don't contribute anything of merit to the conversation.
But how's your junk supply today ? Does it concern you when you "score" from any particular race of dealer or pharmacist, or are they (to you) all one grey shade of 'Nice People who Sell Dope' ??
If you've taken a break from the junkie thang for a while, I'm still interested in your sincere reply.
Do you prefer the Chinese dope over the Mexican stuff ?
I guess I'm curious how your concepts of 'racism' are defined by your hard drug lifestyle. Please illuminate us.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:37 pm
Did you buy your own house,
Did you buy your own house, Stu?
You should post about it over at racistzone.net. All the rage.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:41 pm
>> yellow, brown, black and
>> yellow, brown, black and red races
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 10:42 pm
This is name of the character
So this is the name of a character on M*A*S*H? If it was, I think its pretty cynical and part of the movie and show's dark humor. Sort of like the character named "Token" from South Park. It's pointing out and making fun of racism rather than promoting it.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 11:20 pm
>>>>>Why is the name
>>>>>Why is the name "Spearchucker Jones" considered "Racist" ?? Are you saying that it discriminates against the multitude of races who(m) have thrown spears throughout history, such as the Welsh, the Japanese, the Poles, the Irish, the French, the Chinese, the Canadians ???
Stu, the point is, by calling someone of African ancestry a "spearchucker", the racist using that term is implying that the subject and his ethnic homies are STILL out there chucking spears, whereas the other groups you mentioned are assumed to be "more advanced" in having given up the chucking of spears at some point in the past.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 11:30 pm
Did you somehow miss this:
Did you guys somehow miss this: Trolling, bullying, racist take it somewhere else. Hoover brought up a subject for discussion. If you don't like an opinion or post, discuss it, stay on topic, don't belittle or berate someone on a personal level. This type of community involves respect and tolerance towards one another.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 11:32 pm
We all know Stu's a racist.
We all know Stu's a racist. Surf's superfluous explanation and Judit's vapid shameyfinger ain't gonna change that.
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on Thursday, October 4, 2018 – 11:59 pm
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 12:08 am
Spearchucker Jones had that
"Spearchucker" was that character's nickname because in the novel he was a great javelin thrower as well as great football player.
I don't think a great javelin thrower of any color being nicknamed "Spearchucker" is racist, but then again the novel, movie & TV show were set in the '50s, when "white was right" and racism was acceptable (when America was great?), but then again again the '50s were also when nicknames were extremely common for all sports heroes.
So no, IMO that's not a racist TV show name.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 12:15 am
Is the mash novel great?
Is the mash novel great?
big fan of the movie and show wasn't bad
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 12:39 am
ateix, before you get too
ateix, before you get too wound up to attend your next antifa or scientology meeting, I'll explain my racial viewpoint in a concise manner.
Let's say you (pasty white dude) and a Japanese lady and a Old Norwegian fellow all get hit by a freight train near my place at 4:40 PM.
I'm fifty miles from town, and the coroner hates coming out here after the Vultures eat their eyes.
I've only got one wheelbarrow, so which one do I choose to BBQ and feed to the Dogs ?
~ The old guy is probably full of heart and blood pressure medication, although Norwegians tend to eat pretty well.
~ Japanese lady might eat some Soy, but mostly Fish, Vegetables, Fruit, Rice and a bit of beef and poultry.
~ PWD gobbles all sorts of snack-chips laced with MSG and takes various pills to wake up, go to sleep, cope with stress, and counteract the other pills.
Now these are all assumptions, based upon observations.
Of course I'm going to either leave them all there (because there's plenty of Dog Food) or pick the Japanese lady. She is the lightest to transport in the wheelbarrow, has the cleanest diet, and most likely free of drugs.
And in case you're wondering, they never saw it coming. That train was supposed to be there at 4:44.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 12:47 am
IMO the movie trumps all.
IMO the movie trumps all.
And it really sucks that the current president has ruined the word "trump", as it's a word I love to use.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 02:21 am
Stepin Fetchit (mostly in 30
Stepin Fetchit (mostly in 30's and 40's movies, but he made some tv cameos in the 70's)
Mammy Two Shoes (a recurring character on Tom & Jerry)
Tonto (means "stupid" in Spanish)
Speedy Gonzalez
Pepe Le Pew
The White Shadow
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 02:23 am
Stepin Fetchit (mostly in 30
The Frito Bandito was also a racist stereotype, but he was only in commercials.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 04:00 am
Yes, the novel is great..
Yes, the novel is great...movie is very good, but tough to put the movie in front of the original cast tv show...
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 05:07 am
Dont forget original nickname
Dont forget original nickname for Father Mulcahy is "dago red". Typical during wartime, in a squad, everyone had a nickname ...hot lips, hawkeye, trapper john, painless (dentist) , radar, etc etc etc
Spearchucker made it to tv series , but only for first season. And although Father Mulcahy reveals his long long middle name in an episode, the "dago red" nickname never makes it to the show.
Another interesting tidbit about spearchucker character- he was portrayed in the movie by Fred "the hammer" williamson, who would have a tough time in todays NFL. He got the nickname as a rookie w 49ers for playing too aggresive as a db in practice. He was later traded to Chiefs where he self promoted the nickname (this is in early sixties...guy was ahead of his time w that), by telling his teammates he was gonna "hammer" someone, and he was known for taking opposing players down (and out), with a forearm to the helmet. He appeared in the first Super Bowl vs the Packers, and pregame, announced that he would have 2 "hammers" and knock two packer recievers (one being brian dowling...b.d. character from doonesbury, but thats a differant story) out of thw game. Can you imagine anyone saying that today? Lol...you cant even tackle anyone anymore, let alone forearm someone to the head, so, anyway, in a little twist of fate, The Hammer was knocked out of Super Bowl 1 himself when he took a knee to the head.
Anyway, read the novel, its a great, easy read.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 07:53 am
Does the term “towel head”
Does the term “towel head” discriminate against the billions of people who wrap a towel around their head to dry their hair?
You’re pushing it with this one, Stu. “Spearchucker” has long been a racist term for Blacks.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 08:34 am
The name, Slowpoke Rodriguez,
The name, Slowpoke Rodriguez, was only slighly racist, but the character, Speedy's perpetually stoned and wasted lazy Mexican cousin, was pretty racist, IMO...
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 08:46 am
^As a child i interpreted in
^As a child i interpreted in the terms of family dynamics. Speedy was smart and industrious, while slowpoke was not. Reminded me a couple of my own cousins.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 09:00 am
I always liked El Kabomg.
I always liked El Kabomg.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 09:35 am
No thread about racist TV
No thread about racist TV characters is complete without the Japanese Sailor from Gilligan's Island:
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 09:36 am
Great thread
Great thread
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 10:04 am
I'm gonna pass on that
I'm gonna pass on that suggestion... Though it does have a certain ring to it.
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on Friday, October 5, 2018 – 12:08 pm
It could just be your
It could just be your Halloween name
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 11:58 am
So I did some research and I
So I did some research and I’m not finding a more racist name for a character.
That Japanese soldier is awesome. Makes me miss Ping Pong.
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 03:43 pm
Hard to know what to think
Hard to know what to think without Ruckus's nuanced take on it.
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:00 pm
How about Tyrone Shoelaces
How about Tyrone Shoelaces and his Basketball Jones?
https://www.metatube.com/en/videos/57145/Cheech-and-Chong-Basketball-Jon...
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:05 pm
>>lacking sex
>>lacking sex
that's a tell, Stu.
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:08 pm
Great guitar track that was
Great guitar track that was supposedly recorded by George Harrison -- though I think it was Tommy Chong.
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:16 pm
George Harrison, guitar
George Harrison, guitar
billy Preston...organ
tom scott...sax
klaus voorman bass
Jim karstein drums
Jim keltner percussion
Carole king electric piano
Nicky Hopkins piano
Cheerleaders...
Darlene love
Fanita james
Jean King
Michelle Phillips
Ronnie Specter
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:29 pm
> A white person can be a
> A white person can be a nigger too. You fucking idiot.<<
is your office still next to the shitter big b?
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 04:41 pm
>>>>>>Hard to know what to
>>>>>>Hard to know what to think without Ruckus's nuanced take on it.
Cyotte probably has a relevant forwarded email too.
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on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 – 05:59 pm
at first glance, I thought
at first glance, I thought the actor playing the Japanese soldier might have been the Mexican comedian Cantiflas (who also reminds me of Prince)...
dig the reverse hitler stash
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on Thursday, October 11, 2018 – 01:33 am
Lol Ruckus. I liked him. He
Lol Ruckus. I liked him. He would discuss shit. So many don't.
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on Thursday, October 11, 2018 – 09:40 am
>George Harrison, guitar
>George Harrison, guitar
billy Preston...organ
tom scott...sax
klaus voorman bass
Jim karstein drums
Jim keltner percussion
Carole king electric piano
Nicky Hopkins piano
Cheerleaders...
Darlene love
Fanita james
Jean King
Michelle Phillips
Ronnie Specter
That's a pretty damn impressive list! I heard that Harrison played on it but never thought that it was actually true. Just wiki'ed it and saw how it all came together.
Basssetball Jones...
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on Thursday, October 11, 2018 – 09:47 am
>George Harrison, guitar
double
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on Thursday, October 11, 2018 – 10:21 am
Trapper John is guilty of
Trapper John is guilty of sexual assault.
Forget about Dago Red?
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on Thursday, October 11, 2018 – 10:47 am
Growing up in MA there was a
Growing up in MA there was a gas station/tire shop nearby that was owned and staffed by Italian-Americans. They had a humorous sign out front about tires. I forget the first part, but the last line was something like "And when dago flat, dago wop wop wop".
Couldn't get away with that today.