I'll do the thruway tour as usual, hopefully a Rochester date thrown in to complete the trifecta
You have no idea how much your post made me grin. I knew exactly what you were saying. I must admit Buffalo in March gave me pause though. I remember all too well a tour ender in the town that had me stuck in the city for 2 days after. At least I was smart and extended my room early in the day of the show before the big snow came. By shows end there wasn't a room for 15 miles and people were sleeping in hotel lobbies.
p.s. The switch to the new arena at Belmont Park from the usual Nassau Coliseum should be some barn burners. Springsteen loved Nassau and has a long history of great shows there. He will pull out the stops for the new digs.
Yes, it's been awhile since a proper E Street Band tour and for those wondering where their state/city is, I would suggest to hold on for a bit. This is just the first round of US dates and, if the past is any indication, expect more dates to be announced going forward. I hope people really don't think that Springsteen isn't snubbing certain areas and cities. Some locations just haven't been signed yet and until that happens, no announcement. Of interesting note this time around, I've heard that some markets are not signed because the promoters want to charge MORE than Springsteen Co. has set as a price ceiling. Hats off to Springsteen and management for attempting to keep prices down.
Bruceland rumors say the lack of CA/South west dates is due to Goldenvoice exclusivity deal and setting him up for Desert Trip 2 or Outside Lands next fall, which likely would come with other Goldenvoice run arena shows
Anyone have any luck? I'm not reading great things between technical issues and sky high prices. I'm going to try for Portland tix this week and curious about what to expect.
I think there will some sort of statement from Bruce Inc. in the near future. My guess is there is some high priced lawyering happening as I write this.
I can't blame the fans for their outrage one little bit.
...so, how has Crowded House "drawn a line in the sand against premium ticket pricing" (and dynamic pricing?) but The Boss cannot/did not? (see also last paragraph)
"Bruce Springsteen Fans vs. Ticketmaster Gets Ugly Fast"
With a few dwindling exceptions, the Boomers have carved up and repackaged every piece of American society. The American dollar is one hell of a religion.
I guess the Boss's Jeep money ran out quickly so unfortunately there will be no meeting in the middle with his fans this time around. Let them eat cake.
It has trained me to never buy tickets to any venue over 10K capacity until the day of. I may miss a few but I will also be able to afford to go to a lot more shows. If Pearl Jam in Sacramento releases good floor seats day of then I don't see many other bands being a more difficult ticket. Sadly that show then got canceled for Covid.
just checked again and there are new Ticketmaster tickets available for Orlando and Tampa, cheapest is $550 back of lower bowl in Orlando. Back of lower bowl in Tampa was over 800 I will pass and keep checking back
FREEZE-OUT
Lord won't you tell us, tell us what does it mean?
It's four in the morning and raining. We're feeling old, listening to the outcries of fans feeling similarly betrayed by last week's ticket sales, and remembering that things were different a decade ago.
Because we know our audience, the fans, and count ourselves among them, it feels unnecessary to recap here what transpired on Wednesday when Ticketmaster's first U.S. onsales for the 2023 Tour left many Bruce Springsteen fans in a state of shocked disbelief.
But if you need a catch-up we can point you to Variety, industry observer Bob Lefsetz, or to practically any news outlet of your choice to get the broad strokes of what happened. Call it what you like: market pricing, dynamic pricing, surge pricing, Platinum pricing. Just don't call it The New Normal.
Please.
From our point of view, this so-called premium, algorithm-driven model violates an implicit contract between Bruce Springsteen and his fans, one in which the audience side of the equation appeared to truly matter — and in fact was crucial. We believed it because he told us repeatedly it was true. We can imagine Lefsetz and others, perhaps, snickering here, but we still know our audience: we've all been made to feel we're part of an ongoing conversation, one in which we were all "in conce a vital element of the formula: "If you're here, and we're here… they're here.”
If you're not here… where does that leave them?
This past week, too many Springsteen fans got thrown to the wolves, pushed aside in a way that seems as unfathomable as it was avoidable. The artist has maintained that he understands the essential role of his audience. How, then, did we end up facing, in far too many instances, prices for tickets that exceeded normalcy, then departed from reality entirely by orders of magnitude?
One might cite inflation, market value, or any number of factors; we'd argue that it can't be "market forces” when supply is purposefully obfuscated, then manipulated by the platform of distribution. But from our point of view, it boils down to the stark difference between inside and outside. So many fans who have always gone to the shows, who have always been part of This Thing of Ours, now can't go, will not be inside, will not be part of the conversation, purely because they can't pay the cost to see the Boss.
Bruce Springsteen tickets have been historically and notoriously difficult to obtain. That's the nature of the beast, with so many wanting to witness the power and the glory of rock 'n' roll, and relatively few seats to hold them. But the issue has rarely been the money.
Over many years, there have been continuous, clear efforts made by the Springsteen camp to keep things fair and as fan-centric as possible, to foil scalpers, to give average concert-goers and fans the best shot at a reasonable price in a world where bots run rampant and scalpers rule.
For decades, Springsteen kept his ticket prices significantly lower than what the market might bear, which felt in keeping with his brand, his stated philosophies, his belief in community, and his clear view of what a concert was supposed to be, as for three hours or so — and sometimes more — he and the band gave us a glimpse of a better world.
The tent over E Street has always been big, inviting, and open, but what about the question he began to ask in 2012… are we missing anybody? After this week, it sure appears the answer has changed.
What were we to think when we made it through the queue on Wednesday morning to find that tickets — initial sales, not resales — were on offer for thousands of dollars? In the past, no matter how difficult tickets were to score, persistence paid off. Now, it seems, persistence just ratchets the algorithm up another notch. Or four.
Surely, these multi-thousand-dollar prices were not intended or anticipated, many of us thought. Some assert the algorithm got out of control — are we sure that it was ever in control? We'd never expect Ticketmaster to balk at making money, but surely, many believed, Springsteen would put a stop to it and demand adjustments to the system, if not an overhaul, before the next onsale. Friday came with a general repeat of circumstances and even more fans in disbelief.
As recently as last month's European offering, we've seen Ticketmaster cancel an onsale when conditions called for it and reschedule for the following day. So if these prices were unintentional, it's hard to imagine a good reason for the second onsale, let alone a third. For the ticketsellers, the end result of dynamic pricing must be a feature and not a bug.
And that is a foundation-breaking, worldview-shaking notion.
Wait a minute. We thought it was raining. Is it not raining? That might be a takeaway from data Ticketmaster just shared with us, suggesting that the rain is an illusion. Variety reports these Ticketmaster-provided stats, a series of figures that don't quite add up, that obscure more than clarify. If nothing else, the data shared say nothing about outrageously priced tickets fans declined in horror, only telling us what did sell. In the end, these numbers only leave us with more questions. The biggest one being, if it's not raining, why are we getting soaked?
At a time when we needed to feel hope and promise — when the world seems on fire, when we've suffered through escalating deception, greed, fear, isolation, racial strife, violence, "alternative facts,” democracy literally under threat, and an ongoing global pandemic — we're left feeling further disillusioned, downhearted, and dispirited.
But the ideals Springsteen's music puts forward — they're still alive, aren't they? Whether in the grooves or in concert, wherever those guitars ring out? In our shared spirit? If one can't say yes — if only for a few hours every so often — then maybe the magic really is just tricks.
Springsteen has been paid a king's ransom, and we've never begrudged him that, either. Not the reported $500 million sale of his life's work, which hardly fazed us, not the Broadway prices, not the Jeep commercial. We believe in the value of his music, his work; those other transactions and the arenas in which they take place feel beyond our purview.
What happens in the actual physical arenas, where every few years Springsteen and his audience come together to create something bigger than all of us — and everybody has a decent shot to be part of it, at a reasonable price — that's something that remains worth fighting for. Because in rock 'n' roll, as we've come to believe, one plus one does equal three.
I can only hope the lawyers are now using dynamic pricing too.
That would be rather interesting since the supply of lawyers far exceeds the demand. With that in mind, maybe if the demand for concert ticket was low, shouldn't the price dynamically go down?
While this might be true in the aggregate, this overlooks that some lawyers are in greater demand than others (just like rock and roll bands), and their hourly rates are correspondingly higher. There are lawyers who charge $200 an hour, and there are lawyers who charge $1200 an hour. And then there's Neal Katyal, whose hourly rate is reportedly $2465 an hour.
It appears that the dynamic pricing is no longer working. The blue Ticket Master tickets that showed up a day after the on sale date, are still available but the price has not dropped. there not selling, why is the price holding?
After days of this sort of commentary, Mr. Springsteen and his camp had heard enough. “In pricing tickets for this tour, we looked carefully at what our peers have been doing,” his manager, Jon Landau, said in a statement. “We chose prices that are lower than some and on par with others.
“Regardless of the commentary about a modest number of tickets costing $1,000 or more, our true average ticket price has been in the mid-$200 range,” he continued. “I believe that in today’s environment, that is a fair price to see someone universally regarded as among the very greatest artists of his generation.”
I remember the great Zone freakout of 2009 over "The Dead" tickets costing $110 in some places (mostly back east, Shoreline lawn tix were $25 by the end of the tour). We were just kids then...
You wanna see an A-list headline act and take a date it's gonna be $500 anymore, after accounting for beers.
Lots of great music out there for under $50, or half that. You can choose how you spend your hard-earned... and with crowds that big, there will be tickets outside for less than face because, frankly, a few people out of every 50,000 are going to die, or come up with other plans, before the show.
GTTS, if you can spring for it. (Never seen Bruce but if he announces West Coast shows this time around, I will consider showing up and paying less than face...)
I'm actually ok with face value being north of $ 200 for an artist like Springsteen who night after night gives a 3 + hour show and always seems to dig deep to bring his audience a high energy and well performed show. If the price of a ticket exceeds what I think it's worth, I don't buy. I didn't go to Springsteen On Broadway for that very reason.
It's the dynamic pricing that I can't find a way to justify. First TM picks Verified Fans based on each persons' buying history. I don't know one person that has in the past ponied up for VIP packages that didn't get an access code for these sale dates. Same if they had dropped 5k or more on tickets in the past year. So, you have a pre-made marketplace of people who are used to spending more than others for tickets. Then have them "compete" against each other to drive up the dynamic price. Next thing know, you have $ 5000 tickets for sale by the original seller.
Hard pass of going to a show just to see a show unless some things change.
I guess Springsteen fans can be grateful that they aren't hard core Adele fans. This weeks dynamic pricing mode had top tickets going north of 40K, not 4k.
As an aside, yesterday's Philly sale was not a TM sale so just set prices for regular and premium tickets. At one point, there were 97K people/browser windows in "line" to purchase tickets. That's 97k and each of them probably attempting to purchase at least 2 tickets each. There were a little over 17k tickets available.
I grabbed 2 Buffalo pits for 350 each about 8 minutes into the presale. That's 200$ more each then 2016 but not outrageously out of whack with what I would expect
Was verified for Seattle. Logged in at 10 and 2000+ in line. Got in at 12 minutes. Picked tickets for the next 20 minutes and each time it came up 'sorry another fan beat you to these tickets'. Oh well.
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I'll do the thruway tour as
I'll do the thruway tour as usual, hopefully a Rochester date thrown in to complete the trifecta
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I'll do the thruway tour as
You have no idea how much your post made me grin. I knew exactly what you were saying. I must admit Buffalo in March gave me pause though. I remember all too well a tour ender in the town that had me stuck in the city for 2 days after. At least I was smart and extended my room early in the day of the show before the big snow came. By shows end there wasn't a room for 15 miles and people were sleeping in hotel lobbies.
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p.s. The switch to the new
p.s. The switch to the new arena at Belmont Park from the usual Nassau Coliseum should be some barn burners. Springsteen loved Nassau and has a long history of great shows there. He will pull out the stops for the new digs.
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O Bay Area stop? Pffft.
O Bay Area stop? Pffft.
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O Bay Area stop? Pffft.
This is just the first US dates for what will probably end up being a 2.5 yr + tour. The Bay Area dates will come soon.
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Tulsa get a stop but not CA
Tulsa gets a stop but not CA
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Years ago in Salt Lake, he
Years ago in Salt Lake, he did not sell out the basketball arena on Memorial Day weekend and I guess he's never forgotten. Dang! Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!
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These will be the first NYC
These will be the first NYC area ( E Street Band) shows in 7 years. Never realized it had been so long.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/the-boss-is-back-springsteen-announ...
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^
^
Yes, it's been awhile since a proper E Street Band tour and for those wondering where their state/city is, I would suggest to hold on for a bit. This is just the first round of US dates and, if the past is any indication, expect more dates to be announced going forward. I hope people really don't think that Springsteen isn't snubbing certain areas and cities. Some locations just haven't been signed yet and until that happens, no announcement. Of interesting note this time around, I've heard that some markets are not signed because the promoters want to charge MORE than Springsteen Co. has set as a price ceiling. Hats off to Springsteen and management for attempting to keep prices down.
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Thanks Tony. Fingers crossed.
Thanks Tony. Fingers crossed.
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Bruceland rumors say the lack
Bruceland rumors say the lack of CA/South west dates is due to Goldenvoice exclusivity deal and setting him up for Desert Trip 2 or Outside Lands next fall, which likely would come with other Goldenvoice run arena shows
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Going to go for the 7000 seat
Going to go for the 7000 seat Hard Rock Live show. If price is too outrageous, will go to Tampa
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These are Golden Voice Venues
These are Golden Voice Venues???
https://www.goldenvoice.com/venues/
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GB has been announce with
GB has been announce with more dates to come soon.
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Any luck?
Any luck?
im stuck in a que that has stopped, may just come back tonight and see what shakes out from the days sales
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Anyone have any luck? I'm not
Anyone have any luck? I'm not reading great things between technical issues and sky high prices. I'm going to try for Portland tix this week and curious about what to expect.
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Bruce Springsteen Fans
Bruce Springsteen Fans Furious at Ticket Prices Going as High as $4-5K, Due to Ticketmaster’s ‘Dynamic Pricing’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bruce-springsteen-fans-furious-at-t...
...and another from Philly:
"Bruce Springsteen fans shocked by high ticket prices for upcoming U.S. arena tour"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bruce-springsteen-fans-shocked-by-h...
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^
^
I think there will some sort of statement from Bruce Inc. in the near future. My guess is there is some high priced lawyering happening as I write this.
I can't blame the fans for their outrage one little bit.
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From Strawbud's first link. I
From Strawbud's first link. I don't know what's worse, the ticket cost or the fees. We rape you, and then charge you a hefty fee for raping you.
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Looks like I'll be at the bar
Looks like I'll be at the bar outside the arena checking StubHub at showtime.
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...so, how has Crowded House
...so, how has Crowded House "drawn a line in the sand against premium ticket pricing" (and dynamic pricing?) but The Boss cannot/did not? (see also last paragraph)
"Bruce Springsteen Fans vs. Ticketmaster Gets Ugly Fast"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/bruce-springsteen-fans-vs-ticketmas...
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With a few dwindling
With a few dwindling exceptions, the Boomers have carved up and repackaged every piece of American society. The American dollar is one hell of a religion.
I guess the Boss's Jeep money ran out quickly so unfortunately there will be no meeting in the middle with his fans this time around. Let them eat cake.
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It has trained me to never
It has trained me to never buy tickets to any venue over 10K capacity until the day of. I may miss a few but I will also be able to afford to go to a lot more shows. If Pearl Jam in Sacramento releases good floor seats day of then I don't see many other bands being a more difficult ticket. Sadly that show then got canceled for Covid.
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Got right in for Portland and
Got right in for Portland and tickets at face value in 5 minutes. Way different that my expectations.
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Good for you Mike
Good for you Mike
just checked again and there are new Ticketmaster tickets available for Orlando and Tampa, cheapest is $550 back of lower bowl in Orlando. Back of lower bowl in Tampa was over 800 I will pass and keep checking back
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http://ratdog.org/community
http://ratdog.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=353050
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From backstreets.com, the
From backstreets.com, the publication that I am the head photographer for and occasional writer.
https://www.backstreets.com/news.html
FREEZE-OUT
Lord won't you tell us, tell us what does it mean?
It's four in the morning and raining. We're feeling old, listening to the outcries of fans feeling similarly betrayed by last week's ticket sales, and remembering that things were different a decade ago.
Because we know our audience, the fans, and count ourselves among them, it feels unnecessary to recap here what transpired on Wednesday when Ticketmaster's first U.S. onsales for the 2023 Tour left many Bruce Springsteen fans in a state of shocked disbelief.
But if you need a catch-up we can point you to Variety, industry observer Bob Lefsetz, or to practically any news outlet of your choice to get the broad strokes of what happened. Call it what you like: market pricing, dynamic pricing, surge pricing, Platinum pricing. Just don't call it The New Normal.
Please.
From our point of view, this so-called premium, algorithm-driven model violates an implicit contract between Bruce Springsteen and his fans, one in which the audience side of the equation appeared to truly matter — and in fact was crucial. We believed it because he told us repeatedly it was true. We can imagine Lefsetz and others, perhaps, snickering here, but we still know our audience: we've all been made to feel we're part of an ongoing conversation, one in which we were all "in conce a vital element of the formula: "If you're here, and we're here… they're here.”
If you're not here… where does that leave them?
This past week, too many Springsteen fans got thrown to the wolves, pushed aside in a way that seems as unfathomable as it was avoidable. The artist has maintained that he understands the essential role of his audience. How, then, did we end up facing, in far too many instances, prices for tickets that exceeded normalcy, then departed from reality entirely by orders of magnitude?
One might cite inflation, market value, or any number of factors; we'd argue that it can't be "market forces” when supply is purposefully obfuscated, then manipulated by the platform of distribution. But from our point of view, it boils down to the stark difference between inside and outside. So many fans who have always gone to the shows, who have always been part of This Thing of Ours, now can't go, will not be inside, will not be part of the conversation, purely because they can't pay the cost to see the Boss.
Bruce Springsteen tickets have been historically and notoriously difficult to obtain. That's the nature of the beast, with so many wanting to witness the power and the glory of rock 'n' roll, and relatively few seats to hold them. But the issue has rarely been the money.
Over many years, there have been continuous, clear efforts made by the Springsteen camp to keep things fair and as fan-centric as possible, to foil scalpers, to give average concert-goers and fans the best shot at a reasonable price in a world where bots run rampant and scalpers rule.
For decades, Springsteen kept his ticket prices significantly lower than what the market might bear, which felt in keeping with his brand, his stated philosophies, his belief in community, and his clear view of what a concert was supposed to be, as for three hours or so — and sometimes more — he and the band gave us a glimpse of a better world.
The tent over E Street has always been big, inviting, and open, but what about the question he began to ask in 2012… are we missing anybody? After this week, it sure appears the answer has changed.
What were we to think when we made it through the queue on Wednesday morning to find that tickets — initial sales, not resales — were on offer for thousands of dollars? In the past, no matter how difficult tickets were to score, persistence paid off. Now, it seems, persistence just ratchets the algorithm up another notch. Or four.
Surely, these multi-thousand-dollar prices were not intended or anticipated, many of us thought. Some assert the algorithm got out of control — are we sure that it was ever in control? We'd never expect Ticketmaster to balk at making money, but surely, many believed, Springsteen would put a stop to it and demand adjustments to the system, if not an overhaul, before the next onsale. Friday came with a general repeat of circumstances and even more fans in disbelief.
As recently as last month's European offering, we've seen Ticketmaster cancel an onsale when conditions called for it and reschedule for the following day. So if these prices were unintentional, it's hard to imagine a good reason for the second onsale, let alone a third. For the ticketsellers, the end result of dynamic pricing must be a feature and not a bug.
And that is a foundation-breaking, worldview-shaking notion.
Wait a minute. We thought it was raining. Is it not raining? That might be a takeaway from data Ticketmaster just shared with us, suggesting that the rain is an illusion. Variety reports these Ticketmaster-provided stats, a series of figures that don't quite add up, that obscure more than clarify. If nothing else, the data shared say nothing about outrageously priced tickets fans declined in horror, only telling us what did sell. In the end, these numbers only leave us with more questions. The biggest one being, if it's not raining, why are we getting soaked?
At a time when we needed to feel hope and promise — when the world seems on fire, when we've suffered through escalating deception, greed, fear, isolation, racial strife, violence, "alternative facts,” democracy literally under threat, and an ongoing global pandemic — we're left feeling further disillusioned, downhearted, and dispirited.
But the ideals Springsteen's music puts forward — they're still alive, aren't they? Whether in the grooves or in concert, wherever those guitars ring out? In our shared spirit? If one can't say yes — if only for a few hours every so often — then maybe the magic really is just tricks.
Springsteen has been paid a king's ransom, and we've never begrudged him that, either. Not the reported $500 million sale of his life's work, which hardly fazed us, not the Broadway prices, not the Jeep commercial. We believe in the value of his music, his work; those other transactions and the arenas in which they take place feel beyond our purview.
What happens in the actual physical arenas, where every few years Springsteen and his audience come together to create something bigger than all of us — and everybody has a decent shot to be part of it, at a reasonable price — that's something that remains worth fighting for. Because in rock 'n' roll, as we've come to believe, one plus one does equal three.
It still does, doesn't it?
- By the Editors - July 24, 2022
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> My guess is there is some
> My guess is there is some high priced lawyering happening as I write this.
I can only hope the lawyers are now using dynamic pricing too.
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I can only hope the lawyers
That would be rather interesting since the supply of lawyers far exceeds the demand. With that in mind, maybe if the demand for concert ticket was low, shouldn't the price dynamically go down?
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> the supply of lawyers far
> the supply of lawyers far exceeds the demand
While this might be true in the aggregate, this overlooks that some lawyers are in greater demand than others (just like rock and roll bands), and their hourly rates are correspondingly higher. There are lawyers who charge $200 an hour, and there are lawyers who charge $1200 an hour. And then there's Neal Katyal, whose hourly rate is reportedly $2465 an hour.
https://abovethelaw.com/2022/05/this-biglaw-partners-nearly-2500-hourly-...
And yeah, if demand goes down, price will follow.
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It appears that the dynamic
It appears that the dynamic pricing is no longer working. The blue Ticket Master tickets that showed up a day after the on sale date, are still available but the price has not dropped. there not selling, why is the price holding?
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^TM/LN is likely trying to
^TM/LN is likely trying to fabricate and force ways to prop it up and "make it work"
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Kind of an empty "response"
Kind of an empty "response" from TM, go figure.
"Ticketmaster responds to backlash over Bruce Springsteen ticket prices"
https://ktla.com/entertainment/ticketmaster-responds-to-backlash-over-br...
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Landau is doubling down. Get
Landau is doubling down. Get the popcorn.
After days of this sort of commentary, Mr. Springsteen and his camp had heard enough. “In pricing tickets for this tour, we looked carefully at what our peers have been doing,” his manager, Jon Landau, said in a statement. “We chose prices that are lower than some and on par with others.
“Regardless of the commentary about a modest number of tickets costing $1,000 or more, our true average ticket price has been in the mid-$200 range,” he continued. “I believe that in today’s environment, that is a fair price to see someone universally regarded as among the very greatest artists of his generation.”
bruce-springsteen-tickets.html
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Well dude's being honest, at
Well dude's being honest, at least...
I remember the great Zone freakout of 2009 over "The Dead" tickets costing $110 in some places (mostly back east, Shoreline lawn tix were $25 by the end of the tour). We were just kids then...
You wanna see an A-list headline act and take a date it's gonna be $500 anymore, after accounting for beers.
Lots of great music out there for under $50, or half that. You can choose how you spend your hard-earned... and with crowds that big, there will be tickets outside for less than face because, frankly, a few people out of every 50,000 are going to die, or come up with other plans, before the show.
GTTS, if you can spring for it. (Never seen Bruce but if he announces West Coast shows this time around, I will consider showing up and paying less than face...)
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I'm actually ok with face
I'm actually ok with face value being north of $ 200 for an artist like Springsteen who night after night gives a 3 + hour show and always seems to dig deep to bring his audience a high energy and well performed show. If the price of a ticket exceeds what I think it's worth, I don't buy. I didn't go to Springsteen On Broadway for that very reason.
It's the dynamic pricing that I can't find a way to justify. First TM picks Verified Fans based on each persons' buying history. I don't know one person that has in the past ponied up for VIP packages that didn't get an access code for these sale dates. Same if they had dropped 5k or more on tickets in the past year. So, you have a pre-made marketplace of people who are used to spending more than others for tickets. Then have them "compete" against each other to drive up the dynamic price. Next thing know, you have $ 5000 tickets for sale by the original seller.
Hard pass of going to a show just to see a show unless some things change.
I guess Springsteen fans can be grateful that they aren't hard core Adele fans. This weeks dynamic pricing mode had top tickets going north of 40K, not 4k.
Yikes.
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As an aside, yesterday's
As an aside, yesterday's Philly sale was not a TM sale so just set prices for regular and premium tickets. At one point, there were 97K people/browser windows in "line" to purchase tickets. That's 97k and each of them probably attempting to purchase at least 2 tickets each. There were a little over 17k tickets available.
Yeah, there was a lot more demand than supply.
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I grabbed 2 Buffalo pits for
I grabbed 2 Buffalo pits for 350 each about 8 minutes into the presale. That's 200$ more each then 2016 but not outrageously out of whack with what I would expect
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Was verified for Seattle.
Was verified for Seattle. Logged in at 10 and 2000+ in line. Got in at 12 minutes. Picked tickets for the next 20 minutes and each time it came up 'sorry another fan beat you to these tickets'. Oh well.