A Statement on Biden Voters

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     I realize things have been a bit testy as of late...everyone is a little "on edge", I thought I'd take a moment to say I have unconditional love in my heart for what seems to be the vast majority of the Viva constituency who support Joe Biden...Biden supporters are people too.

     I disagree wholeheartedly and think he will soon be written about in schoolbooks as a traitor to his country, but it doesn't mean that I harbor animus towards his supporters who in all likelihood don't have a proper understanding of the extent of his treasonous acts.

     We all have a place in our heart for beautiful music, some of you took part in a sociological phenomenon that changed western civilization, I have love and respect for each and every one of you.

     Namaste

    -Bryen

Did you email or speak to anyone that could actually help you with this? 

 

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Bryen,

 

I'd be more than happy to know of what treasonous acts that Mr. Biden has been engaging in.

If you could provide me with the key facts, I'd appreciate it.

 

Best,

John

 

PS: I still won't bring myself to ever considering voting for Donald Trump.

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That horse will get pretty ragged if you keep flogging it.

I hate Nazi sympathizers 

Bryen, it's mind boggling to me that out of the millions of sperm in your father's loins, you were the fastest. 


Again, I won't waste my time engaging you in your mindless banter, but I do pray for your poor misguided soul every day. 

I do pray for you poor misguided soul

i hope you get a lot out of playing the polite moron condescending asshole

That is insane 

but perhaps you are literally insane in which case I will pray harder

you are completely on the path / your objective towards 

complete loath able asshole extraordinaire

 

 

Ron Paul wants a bj   
run along now

 

 


     LLTD posting without a call for someone's untimely demise...priceless!


     

     

     https://youtu.be/eof2c5fTcI8

 >>>>>I have love and respect for each and every one of you.

 

Hmm - then why are you always such a condescending jerk here?


     Surf, I think your support of Joe Biden is completely innocent, you know not the consequence, I'm sure you're probably a wonderful person otherwise...even if you were never actually "on tour".

Cognitive dissonance behavior. 

Peace,  love and Trump.

Really?

He's not going to tell you the consequences because he doesn't like you. 


    "I'd be more than happy to know of what treasonous acts that Mr. Biden has been engaging in."

    "If you could provide me with the key facts, I'd appreciate it."

 

 

  
 

 

 

 

 

 

      1.05.2017

     https://youtu.be/qnaoqZk71Uk


     The point I was trying to make was Biden's treasonous behavior shouldn't be grounds for dismissing the virtue of his supporters that lack the wherewithal to comprehend his treachery.

     We are all children of a higher power, some with the ability to understand treasonous threats to the republic, and some not...but we're all Americans.

>>>>>some with the ability to understand treasonous threats to the republic, and some not.

 

Exhibit A.


     Surf...tell me about the time you spent going from one Garcia performance to the next.

I'm not a Biden fan, and likely won't vote for him (won't need to in Oregon, he'll carry the state just fine), but the list of Trumps infractions are so long now, and we've never once heard you speak out against any of them...   (let alone speaking out against the negative spirit that is Trump, our lord and savior Jesus would be quite disappointed in this feeble excuse for a human being)

So lets say it's true, how's that any different from Trumps crimes, and are you willing to concede even one of Trumps treasonous acts or treaty violations?  Biden is an old school corporatist, i'm sure he's got blood on his hands like the rest of them, but Trump is sooooo far off the moral cliff, and you seem to relish in it.  For a long time now, you've refused to denounce; pedophilia, rape, extortion, bribery, racism, ethnic shaming, sexism, oh fuck, the list is just too long....   

Even if Biden is your worst case scenario, he's a saint compared to the low life scum bag that is the Donald...  

Shamey finger to the pious condescender cult boy, again (and agian, and again, and again)


     I welcome the discussion Druba, let me start by asking are you ok with the prior administration utilizing the intelligence apparatus to spy on a political rival...yes or no?  I doubt I'll get a straight answer.


     checkmate?

Surf just got Jerryer than thou-ed. Bryen, who did you just hi five? Nobody?

 

Never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience
– Mark Twain

Nothing is to be gained by arguing with fools. Nothing can be gained by reasoning with ignorant people.
– Dr T.P.Chia

I'd say it's wrong Bryen...   although my understanding was the British intelligence (and several other intelligence agencies) were letting the administration know that members of the Trump campaign were in illegal contact with the Russians, and engaging in illegal activity.

Which crime is more treasonous? Conspiring with our enemies, or being informed about it?  

It always cracks me up that Bryen seems to think that he gets some kind of cred from the number of times he saw Jerry (or went from place-to-place or...).


     We live in interesting times, the heretofore unprecedented attempt to brainwash the masses [CNN/MSNBC] will have some degree of "success", which will surely threaten the 244 year experiment.  It's not happenstance the powers that be are running someone with advanced dementia, which makes perfect sense...most of you seem perfectly fine with it, but it's not what's best for the republic, as if any of you truly cared one way or the other.

As if

So will that be the name of your new talk show, "Bryen Knows Best"?  LOL  

Oh, Noodler from downtown. SWOOSH!!!

Tucker Carlson is going fishing because of CNN?


     ^ the jokesters...ha ha ha 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     when all else fails, joke

At least I answered your question first, you should try it sometime...


     We're clearly on opposite sides of history, the original manifestation of the thread was to acknowledge the attributes/blissful innocence of Biden voters...no matter the fallout of his treason surfacing, I realize many of his supporters had no prior knowledge of his treason and were hypothetically somewhat insulated from the understanding of his January 5th, 2017 Oval Office treasonous acts.

>>>>>likely won't vote for him (won't need to in Oregon, he'll carry the state just fine)

 

But why wouldn't you, if you think Trump is worse than Biden? Sure, you don't  "need to", but why not carry your share of the load? What is the purpose of voting for someone who can't win? Or leaving that space blank?


     Surf...did you ever travel this great country to attend the next Garcia performance?

Surf, how are you carrying my load?

Just so you know, Bry, your Jerryer-than-thou attitude is extremely unseemly, and, IMO, shows that you never "got" what the man was laying down.

But you do you.

>>>> when all else fails, joke

Just goin' with the flow. All your threads are a joke. Only problem is you're the only one not "in" on the joke. You take yourself seriously, and oddly, you actually think people care what you think. Strange. 

 

 


     ...I'll take that as a no

I enjoy protest voting, have done it my entire life

But this year is different, and I may join the majority, but for the sake of Bryens' post, i'm not a Biden supporter, but agreed, the removal of this traitorous bastard is the requirment if we're to save this mockery of a republic 

 

Reading comprehension, Knot. Your load is your own. I was responding to someone in my state.


     This from people that witnessed Garcia playing guitar, but made the decision not to travel around America to see him play guitar...interesting.

     #stayathomersanomyous

 

Jerry carried loads of drugs. 


     Crimson White and Indigo 

 

     https://youtu.be/j0wCPXpRoWQ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     *in attendance 

Unregulated crony capitalism in its last throws like a 94 dead tour...

hard to watch the great, decline.

too much is never enough, indeed....

 

 


 

 


     Turtle, I love you...and I truly mean that, but the constant threat of "doxxing" me to these maniacs has brought about many sleepless nights, some of these posers know no shame, if you should ever choose to slice my throat I'll always remember it as your true flaw.


 

 

     All the very best.

    -Bryen 


 

 

 

 

     https://youtu.be/EHV0zs0kVGg



     Ripple in still water 

 


 

         
     https://youtu.be/EvO800FW6Fs

 

 

 

 

 

 

    * in attendance 

GARCIA HATES you

always did

touring (late bloomer / touch head) and siding SO smugly with evil (-and huge condescending EGO) makes GARCIA SICK

he will always loathe you 

you missed the boat son

 

 

put your lips on Ron Paul after you put you lips on the water bottle     Lol

nurosis is an illness

timely or untimely  don't matter boy 

 


 

     Go ahead and doxx me if you believe it to be your true calling in life, I'm sure will survive.

 

     https://youtu.be/CgnQVjp3VUY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     * in attendance 

Thanks for sharing the treasonous video.   I'll check it out tomorrow. 

Pediphile priests got 1.4 billion in PPP loans 


      EDIT:  I WILL SURVIVE 

 

     

      https://youtu.be/5fH2FOn1V5g?list=PLaproToZtMGm-ZNsOLxLOS7i66m5Lmea-

     


 

 

 

 

     Turtle is a reasonably good person...who has threatened me with doxxing over and over again like a small man figures out how to defend himself, go ahead...get it over with.

 

     https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Small+Man+Complex

     

Neurosis

 

illness

 

 very sad 

 

lots of pity

 

i will have to work on empathy, as I do not know of all the demons in your life

I also am working on empathy as a am quite judgmental, very opinionated,  and have an engineer type brain...... (me me me )

 

You are the antithesis of a dead head

 

non Dead head poser 

head explodes at the truth

 

 


     ...said the guy who never saw Jerry east of the 707


 

 

 

 

     Supposedly Jerry was in this scene
 


      https://youtu.be/rugbWUnENLs

 

 

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    * in attendance 


 

 

 

 

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    * not in attendance 


"I'd say it's wrong Bryen...   although my understanding was the British intelligence (and several other intelligence agencies) were letting the administration know that members of the Trump campaign were in illegal contact with the Russians, and engaging in illegal activity.

Which crime is more treasonous? Conspiring with our enemies, or being informed about it?"

 

    ^ complete rubbish...if you're credibly believing that it speaks volumes, are you still clinging to the Russia hoax?

Keep trying little man

you might eventually convince yourself, but no one else 

delusions  R us

i wish I could post a picture of jerry

then maybe I could be "legitimate"

You must know that I will never click on your drivel, same as I will never click on any scammer or thief fishing

poser

Jerry hates you.    Lol


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     LLTD...shouldn't you be wishing death on someone?  I feel cheated

 

 

 

     [[[one trick pony]]]

Ron Paul: People should ask themselves whether this coronavirus "pandemic" could be a big hoax."

Ron Paul also asks if Bryen being a deadhead is a big hoax?

jerry knows big fella 

How do we feel about abortion bryen?-  discuss   - (lol you never discuss btw)

do you wear facemasks? - discuss  - lol

 

pray for peace

 


 

 

       https://youtu.be/jINFNxSxzhA

 

     * one of the first songs to speak about psychedelic consciousness between the lines


     LLTD shouldn't you be sleeping?

     Maybe you could while away the hours plotting your grandiose schemes, wishing people dead and whatnot...that seems to be your groove.


     Kathy's Song

     https://youtu.be/ylCGvOUL938

 
 

     
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     Congressman Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress

 

     https://youtu.be/q03cWio-zjk

B-ry is the most Deader-than-thou dude this place has ever seen. He really thinks that traveling to see Jerry makes him better.

Bless his little soul.

grateful-dead-bears-x-nike-sb-dunk-low-orange-4.jpegGrateful Dead Republican Troll Attire.

The grey sweatpants completes the look.

>>A Statement on Biden Voters

I'm not voting FOR Biden - I am voting for whoever can send Trump packing.

Biden, shit sandwich, can of vegetable soup, skidmark on your underwear, empty suit...I don't really care.

I want to hear about your pinning, bry, were you pinned by bear himself?

>>  ...said the guy who never saw Jerry east of the 707 <<

Curious if there's a time requirement, as well?

Pre-1990? Pre-1980? Pre-1970 to be "legit"?

 

Interesting, also, that Byren can't defend Trump in any shape or form. Ironic that his attempts to vilify Biden are a fraction of what Trump has done.

Byren you seem to have some remnants of a brain, maybe try to employ those remnants.

I once banged the same tar that Jerry was smoking. It was during an 11 show run and over 1,000 miles from home. I think it gives me way more cred than B-ry has for simply touring.

It actually gives me zero cred. He still has less. Being Deader-than-thou puts him in a deficit.

 

bryen

If you're having trouble dealing day-to-day, which is more than apparent 

you might wanna try this...

 

turn volume on

https://twitter.com/jadedcreative/status/1282738941607784449

 

 

bry, where you there the night john saw jerry's broken guitar in the back of irwin's trunk?

While we do need a third party, (green party, eco-party, educated-party, non-lobbyist party), I feel the presidential elections is not the time to make that statement.  

It didn't work with Nader.  It may not work now.

It is too risky, (even in Oregon....I have seen many people move here who will vote the Rump), in these times.

Vote for the one who has the highest chances of getting the rump-hole out of office.  He never belonged there.  His ignorance and insults are  ...disgusting.

Both parties have faults ~ it's called politics.  Deal with that.

 

140,000 Dead, Bounty On US Soldiers, Massive Debt, 11% Unemployment

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Bry is such a little shit stain.

now there's a meme


     Some characteristics of the Viva Biden constituency...

 

 

    • still clinging to the the Russia scam as rationalizing their worldview  

    • mostly dependent on Facebook memes to bolster their discussion points/lack thereof

    • an absolute unwillingness to acknowledge the treason of 1.5.2017

    • a similar unwillingness to acknowledge Biden's dementia   

    • an aversion to traveling from one Garcia performance to another

I'm none of those. 

You forgot the "namaste" at the end of your post.

Take your meds, Bry. Please. If not for us, for your family's sake. 

If you play his posts backwards, Central American families get their children back from the republican (child prostitution) internment camps 

Let me take your mind off politics for a spell, Bry.

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     https://youtu.be/8Ajl5dgas4o

 

     http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/fauthrep.html

 

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell

 

 

 

     FRANKLIN'S TOWER

     In another time's forgotten space
     your eyes looked through your mother's face
     Wildflower seed on the sand and stone
     may the four winds blow you safely home 

     4x: Roll away... the dew

     You ask me where the four winds dwell
     In Franklin's tower there hangs a bell
     It can ring, turn night to day
     Ring like fire when you lose your way

     Roll away... the dew . . . 

     God help the child who rings that bell
     It may have one good ring left, you can't tell
     One watch by night, one watch by day
     If you get confused just listen to the music play

     Roll away... the dew . . . 

     Some come to laugh their past away
     Some come to make it just one more day
     Whichever way your pleasure tends
     if you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind

     Roll away... the dew . . .

     In Franklin's Tower the four winds sleep
     Like four lean hounds the lighthouse keep
     Wildflower seed in the sand and wind
     May the four winds blow you home again

     4x: Roll away... the dew
     You better roll away the dew     

Click on this oh little lost man 

// hhthuh

Or maybe go find a closet to sulk in /  have delusions in.
or a mirror to agree with you

or a broken record to freelance with

makenasty

and please don't die 

in fact maybe wake up from the dead?


     Long Live The Delusional (love matters...suposedly, kind of, to some extent, when he's not wishing death on various individuals)

to clarify, I just wished you life 


     sure...whatever you say, all the best

 

 

 

     


     If I were fortunate enough to have seen Garcia in his early adulthood as you claim...the last thing I would do would be to wish death on this person and that person...do you have any reverence whatsoever for the Ten Commandments?  


     https://youtu.be/KBrxceZJkFE

Trump

And death to trump is metaphorical btw

he is causing endless suffering, loss and death

in my opinion

And needs to leave the office ASAP

Pigpen +10000

80s -90s tour +100

Trump does not honor the commandments

nor the constitution 

he probably can't even spell those words 

let alone understand or honor them

its all an act do he can honor false idols:: himself 

 

In this day & age it's difficult to have a political disagreement without being disagreeable. 

With that in mind, in an effort 2 better understand; a few questions 4 Mr Bryen.

> ...are you ok with the prior administration utilizing the intelligence apparatus to spy on a political rival...yes or no?

Just 'cause it's said, that don't mean that it's true.

~ Did Donald & Co use information by another countries intelligence apparatus to help win an election?

Hint, the person running that other land once ran their intelligence apparatus.  

- In a different thread U mentioned that U would "probably write in Ron Paul."

~ Will U continue your (up until now) unambiguous support of the Don?

> ...did you ever travel this great country to attend the next Garcia performance?

So traveling so many roads gives one a keener ability to Grok Trumpism?

~ Can we at least hear more about how touring with Jerry in 94-95 led 2 understanding how swell the Don really is?

In closing, bless U 4 having a place in your heart for beautiful music. 

Carry on. 

 


    "Just 'cause it's said, that don't mean that it's true."

     Purposely falsifying reality, utterly discreditable rubbish, begging the question...why do you intentionally bear false witness?


     ...the point being it is now unassailable fact the intelligence apparatus was utilized against a political opponent, that train has left the station as far as being debatable, the luminaries of this message board have no problem with that, but even the most foolish wouldn't take up that debate.

     Are you seriously putting forth such nonsense?

Luminaries!

Four syllables 

 

polysyllabic

keplers bookstore for a couple of you are less deadier points son 

carry on,    But consider signing off

(I do hope Thom is ok and healthy)


     Characteristics of the "New Left"...

    • cheaters & thieves 

> Purposely falsifying reality,

Perhaps its an alternate reality, not discernible as any form of truth on planet earth.

> utterly discreditable rubbish, 

so U really believe that Obama spied on the Don?  Seriously? 

> begging the question...why do you intentionally bear false witness?

Bears choice has some nice tunes on it. Both acoustic & electric.

U might B familiar with one of the musicians. 

Side note: U ask many questions with sharp tongue, but answer few. Please discuss. 


     Dave, I'm assuming you're an intelligent person up to speed on current events...are you attempting to credibly feign ignorance of the prior administration utilizing the intelligence agencies to spy on their political rival?

Me intelligent? Never assume. Based on your perception on reality, should we lock Obama up?
 

>  Characteristics of the "Old Right"...

    • Leapers, lepers, lunatics, hustlers, whores and thieves
      Fortune tellers, diplomats and some you won't believe


     Go to sleep Dave, it's past your bedtime.

No worries Mr. (B), I'm still up.  
Perhaps a story about Jerry & the Don will help me get some rest.
Yawn. 


     In the secret space of dreams...rent a clue

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     goodnight & good luck 

When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold

Mr B will spin his yarn
'Bout marching to the beat of the Don  

 


     One of my father's good friends always calls me "Mr. B"

 

     All the best Dave, for whatever it may be worth, I truly mean it.

 


 

      https://youtu.be/Dxv5dKJGhzk

 

 

     * in attendance, 1st Attics since 10.28.1972 
     

          

Don't forget that bry supports the men in the papacy who sexually abuse young boys. 

I just love the hypocrisy of the world ending because of one meeting in the Obama White House where Biden is (now) accused of spying on Trump

All because Trump was engaged with enemies intelligent agencies to spy (find dirt) on Hillary Clinton, but that's somehow OK???   

Now years later, there's heaping piles of evidence, tweets, and videos (and impeachment hearings) about Trump doing exactly that... abusing his office to get dirt on Biden 

 

Bryen, you're a criminally misinformed fool of a troll, and I pity your inability to denounce racism, pedophilia, rape, and all the other moral bankruptcies of your antichrist president.

 

Namaste

Bryen, you're a criminally misinformed fool of a troll, and I pity your inability......

Namaste, seriously

Oh great Garcia head - when did you first experience Garcia live?, i am now very curious, as you seem to fight for political, or mental health  credibility base on "following Jerry"  discuss

what would your mother say about your behavior?  discuss

 

 

>> it is now unassailable fact the intelligence apparatus was utilized against a political opponent <<

 

Well, that sounds illegal. Where are the indictments and convictions? LOL

>>>A Statement on Biden Voters

There's more of them than the other guy's. 

 

Actually, if there was something I'd pick on Obama for, it would be for not blowing up the media with the info they had about Russia trying to help the clown. But he was being very careful not to make it look like he was trying to influence the election. Him being judicious cost us dearly. This is back when there was integrity in the White House. But he had a duty to investigate it. It's one of the most serious threats to our country, and it turned out to be true. 

So for the buffoon to take offense that this was investigated, that smacks of being unpatriotic and not caring about election integrity. 

 

.Biden supporters are people too.

>>>>It's one of the most serious threats to our country, and it turned out to be true. 

 

But it didn't change anything because Democrats are afraid to indict a sitting President. They think something might happen, like we're better off with Trump instead of Pence, or we need Trump in case we're attacked or what if they tried indict a Democrat POTUS. Risky precedent. 

Thanks for nothing, 1%.

 

Where stands Biden:

DACA  and breaking the law ignoring the Supreme Court 

https://apple.news/AUr_YdpFdRPSjxQiNZlxMNQ

where stands bry

 

general theft of Americans for trump buddies 

https://apple.news/A14NPWDqmQSa9ovcuVrd9bQ

discuss 

 

 civil discourse  allowed to commence

utilized

meaning keeping it quiet until after the election, but letting Comey shit all over Clinton the week of the election - with the same fucking three emails he bitched her out about the week of the DNC convention.

 

maybe utilized translates as "hiding evidence of treason" in Russian.

Bryen the most bigly-est Deadhead in the lot pauses for his daily affirmation..

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Bryen 

show is your 

dead

cred

a pic of Jerry in rainbow striped pants?

Bryen ain't so bad.

Sorry Greg, we already have one Bryen around here and he does it better than you and can play acoustic guitar as good as Jerry -- come up with a new schtick please. You were just never on tour as much as him and there is nothing you can do about it. Sorry, deal with it.

PS -  "Michigan's slap monkey pot king meth-head ranting hermit" kinda turned people off to your recent online Zoner persona. Perhaps go back to "youtube link guy" -- you had a least a couple fans back then.


 

     
 

 

     

 

 

     I request permission to revise and extend my remarks...

 

     To begin with...those were mostly seminal moments on tour that people may or may not be familiar with, I suppose I was drawing a direct correlation with lack of the wherewithal to being on the road to the next Garcia performance and a tendency to be a Biden voter, but it wasn’t so much to self aggrandize as a genuine theory of behavioral patterns, as a “for instance”, the same types that tend to stay at home rather than hit the road probably wouldn’t have been a good fit in the Continental Army.

 

     To that end, humble thyself, humble thyself, humble thyself...I hope I don’t come across as boastful.

 

     It is noteworthy that there seems to be an absolute acceptance amongst the Viva Biden Constituency of utilizing the intelligence apparatus against a political rival, which in some way, shape or form is certainly a crossing of the Rubicon...we live in interesting times.

 

     Namaste

    -Bryen

 

     https://youtu.be/L42AnSAdzXw



 

     another seminal moment on tour...

 

 

 

     Here Comes Sunshine 
 
 

     first time played in many moons

 

     https://youtu.be/dZ6JNO9MDmU

    


 

 

     * in attendance, "miracle ticket" courtesy of Utah Jen

I remember Ken Kesey doing the second set intro, then the first Day Job, women smarter, then the first West LA Fadeaway, fun way to start a 2nd set, with 2 new Jerry tunes...   fun talking with Ken during the show, loved how he was always available for a chat 

 

Why is Trump asking all our enemies to get dirt on Biden for him OK with you Bryen?   


     I hopped on the bus and had a very fleeting interaction with Kesey in Eugene, it was a moment I do hold dear...he was wearing some kind of headphones seemingly on some kind of shortwave radio at the time so it was mostly nonverbal.

 

     Also...I think Jen styled me on a ticket to a 1990 Tempe show now that I recollect...you'd be hard pressed to find a nicer girl on Grateful Dead Tour.

 

     Druba, I realize your mother worked in the Obama White House so you are understandably hypersensitive to discussions surrounding his treason, please don't take it as a personal affront against her, I'm sure she had nothing to do with it, also...I realize when your political heroes' misdeeds come to light it can be a bit of a shock, but again...please don't take it personally, when the truth surfaces, which has already occurred to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention, it will amount to the greatest political scandal in the 244 years of the republic.

     Humor me and spend an hour of your life researching it.

Lol, you love projecting your own arguments on people don't you, must make it easy to play both roles in a discussion... 

Everything you just said is wrong, well, except for this; 

It's true, my mom did work in the Obama White House for the first 2 years of his presidency, but she also did 8 years with George W. Bush, 8 with the Clintons, and 2 with HW Bush...   

 

My lovely mother and the dignified First Lady Michelle Obama thanking / hugging my mom for her 20 years of public service at the White House (before that she taught special ed. to Jr High kids in the LA city schools for over 40 years)

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speaking of conspiracies and treason, you'd love the backstories from the 9/11 era...   

Darn dude

you actually spent a second acknowledging you horrible self aggrandizing and also mentioning humility 

i was pleased 

then you immediately lost your shit again 

sad.  I will work on having empathy, but it is hard for me to relate, as I was brought up by wonderful very bright parents, with a healthier world view and hopefully respect for kindness,  morals and honesty 

 

I readily admit that  I do enjoy trolling you, a complete  sitting duck with a bulls eye right between your eyes that don't see

and a schmuck

 Strong  English skills, but speaking gibberish, and always condescending and attacking 

sad sad sad. Wanna see a 1967 photo of Jerry playing in palo alto    Great clothes great time to be alive and "in attendance". Lol. I can be full of shit too

 Beautiful noodler!   Great to respect and be proud of you mom!!

my mother was a total rabble rouser,  very able to speak her mind, and work for equality and justice 

General Douglas MacArthur gave her father an award in person back in the 50's because he served blacks and whites at a time where that wasn't allowed, but they all worked for the Navy, my grandfather was always an honorable Christian man, and was against all forms of bigotry and prejudice, going back before his time in WWI

bryen, did you watch the 90 pit show tonight?

fabulous.

you are at a siding

While you were gone
These spaces filled with darkness
The obvious was hidden
With nothing to believe in
The compass always points to Terrapin

Sullen wings of fortune beat like rain
You're back in Terrapin for good or ill again
For good or ill again


     Druba, your mother seems like a very fine lady, and the story of your grandfather Is certainly impressive, all due respect to both of them.

     I know for her to be involved in several presidential administrations certainly speaks to her honor and expertise, you obviously are blessed.

didn't think we'd see gregulator again after his big emotional flameout some time ago. hahahahahaha

Thanks for the kind words Bryen, she is definitely very special, a true heart of gold!   


     I believe that, certainly a fascinating role, I can only imagine the stories she could tell...a remarkable life's work.

She loved George and Barbara Bush, loved the Clintons,  both of them were diplomats, they made policy by getting the best in their fields to debate, and they'd ask leading questions to direct the debate, help come up with policy or other actions.

 

W did most things in secret, ran it like a biz, with only Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft in the room making decisions the majority of the time....  in early 2001 anyway

bryen can you play rosa lee mc fall?

 


     I hesitate to ask...but where was she on that fateful day?

 

 

 

     [...yes Turtle, I play a pretty good rendition of that one]

She was at the White House that morning, got sent home really quickly though...   think the Pentagon got hit a little after 9am, if I recall they shut a lot down, and my brother had to leave his pediatric clinic to give her a ride home

love to see you post a youtube. aloha.

Oh goody, more Obamagate.  It was a chilly fateful day in early January. Obama, Biden & Noodler's mom met in small room, with only dimly lit candles to synchronize the  noir feel. The stratagem involved  subversive acts.  Utilization of the intelligence agencies to spy on their political rival.  Hillary dropped in, asking questions about servers.  What crime since the the Boston tea party could possibly be more treasonous?  Please discuss.  

 

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     It was good your brother was there for her, also good she was sent home so quickly...what a horrific day.
 

 

 

 

     Goodnight

It was indeed a horrific day. Sure a foreign government allegedly had their secret service types abscond with ill gotten secrets, then pass them on to a stone supporter of the Don.  While the Don screamed about a hoax & offered commutations to his friend, those silly treasonous leader types had the nerve 2 ask our spies 2 figure out what their spies were up to & with who. Never B4 had such a horrific (did I mention treasonous) crime take place. Fortunately we have a Jerry tour head who (because he went from town to town following Jerry) has discerned the treachery of those nefarious Dems. Lock them up. 

Thumbs us dave!

Lost soul, where do you stand on McCarthyism

discuss~~~~

do not post links

do not diffuse, deflect and seek absolution by posting dead music

Feel free to go ahead and be / or pretend to be a decent human being or nice guy


    " a foreign government allegedly had their secret service types abscond with ill gotten secrets" 

     Could you provide a shred of evidence supporting that mythology?

 

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^  LOL

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-nation...

 

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Did CrowdStrike have proof that Russia hacked the DNC? 

Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports.

Following a comprehensive investigation that CrowdStrike detailed publicly, the company concluded in May 2016 that two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries breached the DNC network.

To reference, CrowdStrike’s account of their DNC investigation, published on June 14, 2016, “CrowdStrike Services Inc., our Incident Response group, was called by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the formal governing body for the US Democratic Party, to respond to a suspected breach. We deployed our IR team and technology and immediately identified two sophisticated adversaries on the network – COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR…. At DNC, COZY BEAR intrusion has been identified going back to summer of 2015, while FANCY BEAR separately breached the network in April 2016.”

This conclusion has most recently been supported by the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issuing a report [intelligence.senate.gov] validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community, published on January 6, 2017,  that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

The Senate report states on page 48:

“The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign.”

Furthermore, in his testimony in front of the House Intelligence Committee, Shawn Henry stated the following with regards to CrowdStrike’s degree of confidence that the intrusion activity can be attributed to Russia, cited from page 24:

HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analysts that looked at it and that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment,and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

Have any other organizations concluded that Russia was behind the DNC hack?

Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017, all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

Page 157 of the Senate report states that the Select Committee on Intelligence “conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia’s intrusions into DNC networks.“ Senator Richard Burr (R – North Carolina), who served as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the report was issued, confirmed this finding: “The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions.”

The Intelligence Community Assessment, published on January 6, 2017 also confirms that Russia was behind the DNC hack, stating on page 2 of the report: “In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016. This unclassified ODNI report was based on extensive classified intelligence collected by the CIA, NSA, and FBI; the ODNI determined the classified intelligence should not be released in order to protect the sensitive sources and methods by which it was collected.

It’s also worth noting that other security companies, including Fidelis and FireEye have supported CrowdStrike’s analysis.

Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32)  and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, theIntelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”>>

 

 

 

     


     

 

https://nationalsecurity.news/2020-05-22-dem-cyber-firms-testimony-no-pr....

 

CrowdStrike, the private cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia probe, acknowledged to Congress more than two years ago that it had no concrete evidence that Russian hackers stole emails from the Democratic National Committee’s server.

 

CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry’s admission under oath,  in a recently declassified December 2017 interview before the House Intelligence Committee, raises new questions about whether Special Counsel Robert Mueller, intelligence officials and Democrats misled the public. The allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails from Hillary Clinton, John Podesta and others and then passed them to WikiLeaks helped trigger the FBI’s probe into now debunked claims of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia to steal the 2016 election. The CrowdStrike admissions were released just two months after the Justice Department retreated from its its other central claim that Russia meddled in the 2016 election when it dropped charges against Russian troll farms it said had been trying to get Trump elected.

Henry personally led the remediation and forensics analysis of the DNC server after being warned of a breach in late April 2016; his work was paid for by the DNC, which refused to turn over its server to the FBI. Asked for the date when alleged Russian hackers stole data from the DNC server, Henry testified that CrowdStrike did not in fact know if such a theft occurred at all: “We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated [moved electronically] from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated,” Henry said.

Henry reiterated his claim on multiple occasions:

“There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left.”

“There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There’s circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated.”

“There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn’t have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made.”

“Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn’t see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw.”

Asked directly if he could “unequivocally say” whether “it was or was not exfiltrated out of DNC,” Henry told the committee: “I can’t say based on that.”

In a later exchange with Republican Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah, Henry offered an explanation of how Russian agents could have obtained the emails without any digital trace of them leaving the server. The CrowdStrike president speculated that Russian agents might have taken “screenshots” in real time. “[If] somebody was monitoring an email server, they could read all the email,” Henry said. “And there might not be evidence of it being exfiltrated, but they would have knowledge of what was in the email. … There would be ways to copy it. You could take screenshots.”

Henry’s 2017 testimony that there was no “concrete evidence” that the emails were stolen electronically suggests that Mueller may have been misleading in his 2019 final report. The report stated that Russian intelligence “appears to have compressed and exfiltrated over 70 gigabytes of data” and agents “appear to have stolen thousands of emails and attachments” from Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and DNC servers, respectively. It also suggests that the DNC emails were transferred to a server in Illinois controlled by the Russian intelligence service GRU. But in addition to including the qualifier “appear,” Mueller’s source for the Illinois server claim is redacted. That leaves CrowdStrike, to date, as U.S. intelligence officials’ primary, publicly known source for its confident claims about Russian hacking.

The stolen emails, which were published by Wikileaks – whose founder, Julian Assange has long denied they came from Russia – were embarrassing to the party because, among other things, they showed the DNC had favored Clinton during her 2016 primary battles against Sen. Bernie Sanders for the presidential nomination. The DNC eventually issued an apology to Sanders and his supporters “for the inexcusable remarks made over email.” The DNC hack was separate from the FBI’s investigation of Clinton’s use of a private server while serving as President Obama’s Secretary of State.

The disclosure that CrowdStrike found no evidence that alleged Russian hackers exfiltrated any data from the DNC server raises a critical question: On what basis, then, did it accuse them of stealing the emails? Further, on what basis did Obama administration officials make far more forceful claims about Russian hacking?

The January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA), which formally accused Russia of a sweeping influence campaign involving the theft of Democratic emails, claimed the Russian intelligence service “exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.” A July 2018 indictment claimed that GRU officers “stole thousands of emails from the work accounts of DNC employees.”

According to everyone concerned, the cyber-firm played a critical role in the FBI’s investigation of the DNC data theft. Henry told the panel that CrowdStrike “shared intelligence with the FBI” on a regular basis, making “contact with them over a hundred times in the course of many months.” In congressional testimony that same year, former FBI Director James Comey acknowledged that the FBI “never got direct access to the machines themselves,” and instead relied on CrowdStrike, which “shared with us their forensics from their review of the system.” According to Comey, the FBI would have preferred direct access to the server, and made “multiple requests at different levels,” to obtain it. But after being rebuffed, “ultimately it was agreed to… [CrowdStrike] would share with us what they saw.”

Henry’s testimony seems at variance with Comey’s suggestion of complete information sharing. He told Congress that CrowdStrike provided “a couple of actual digital images” of DNC hard drives, out of a total number of “in excess of 10, I think.” In other cases, Henry said, CrowdStrike provided its own assessment of them. The firm, he said, provided “the results of our analysis based on what our technology went out and collected.” This disclosure follows revelations from the case of Trump operative Roger Stone that CrowdStrike provided three reports to the FBI in redacted and draft form. According to federal prosecutors, the government never obtained CrowdStrike’s unredacted reports.

There are no indications that the Mueller team accessed any additional information beyond what CrowdStrike provided. According to the Mueller report, “the FBI later received images of DNC servers and copies of relevant traffic logs.” But if the FBI obtained only “copies” of data traffic – and not any new evidence — those copies would have shown the same absence of “concrete evidence” that Henry admitted to.

Adding to the tenuous evidence is CrowdStrike’s own lack of certainty that the hackers it identified inside the DNC server were indeed Russian government actors. Henry’s explanation for his firm’s attribution of the DNC hack to Russia is replete with inferences and assumptions that lead to “beliefs,” not unequivocal conclusions.  “There are other nation-states that collect this type of intelligence for sure,” Henry said, “but what we would call the tactics and techniques were consistent with what we’d seen associated with the Russian state.” In its investigation, Henry said, CrowdStrike “saw activity that we believed was consistent with activity we’d seen previously and had associated with the Russian Government. …  We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.”

But CrowdStrike was forced to retract a similar accusation months after it accused Russia in December 2016 of hacking the Ukrainian military, with the same software that the firm had claimed to identify inside the DNC server.

The firm’s work with the DNC and FBI is also colored by partisan affiliations. Before joining CrowdStrike, Henry served as executive assistant director at the FBI under Mueller. Co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch is a vocal critic of Vladimir Putin and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, the pro-NATO think tank that has consistently promoted an aggressive policy toward Russia. And the newly released testimony confirms that CrowdStrike was hired to investigate the DNC breach by Michael Sussmann of Perkins Coie – the same Democratic-tied law firm that hired Fusion GPS to produce the discredited Steele dossier, which was also treated as central evidence in the investigation. Sussmann played a critical role in generating the Trump-Russia collusion allegation. Ex-British spy and dossier compiler Christopher Steele has testified in British court that Sussmann shared with him the now-debunked Alfa Bank server theory, alleging a clandestine communication channel between the bank and the Trump Organization.

Henry’s recently released testimony does not mean that Russia did not hack the DNC. What it does make clear is that Obama administration officials, the DNC and others have misled the public by presenting as fact information that they knew was uncertain.  The fact that the Democratic Party employed the two private firms that generated the core allegations at the heart of Russiagate — Russian email hacking and Trump-Russia collusion – suggests that the federal investigation was compromised from the start.

The 2017 Henry transcript was one of dozens just released after a lengthy dispute. In September 2018, the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee unanimously voted to release witness interview transcripts and sent them to the U.S. intelligence community for declassification review. In March 2019, months after Democrats won House control, Rep. Adam Schiff ordered the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) to withhold the transcripts from White House lawyers seeking to review them for executive privilege. Schiff also refused to release vetted transcripts, but finally relented after acting ODNI Director Richard Grenell suggested this month that he would release them himself.

Several transcripts, including the interviews of former CIA Director John Brennan and Comey, remain unreleased. And in light of the newly disclosed Crowdstrike testimony, another secret document from the House proceedings takes on urgency for public viewing. According to Henry, Crowdstrike also provided the House Intelligence Committee with a copy of its report on the DNC email theft.


     

 



 

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The 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak is a collection of Democratic National Committee (DNC) emails stolen by one or more hackers operating under the pseudonym "Guccifer 2.0" who are alleged to be Russian intelligence agency hackers, according to indictments carried out by the Mueller investigation.  These emails were subsequently published (leaked) by DCLeaks in June and July 2016[2] and by WikiLeaks on July 22, 2016, just before the 2016 Democratic National Convention. This collection included 19,252 emails and 8,034 attachments from the DNC, the governing body of the United States' Democratic Party. The leak includes emails from seven key DNC staff members, and date from January 2015 to May 2016.   On November 6, 2016, WikiLeaks released a second batch of DNC emails, adding 8,263 emails to its collection.

On December 9, 2016, the CIA told U.S. legislators that the U.S. Intelligence Community concluded Russia conducted operations during the 2016 U.S. election to prevent Hillary Clinton from winning the presidency.  Multiple U.S intelligence agencies concluded people with direct ties to the Kremlin gave WikiLeaks hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee.nnWikiLeaks did not reveal its source. Later Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, claimed that the source of the emails was not Russia.

In June 2017, former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, who was appointed by and served under President Barack Obama, testified before a House Select committee that his department offered their assistance to the DNC during the campaign to determine what happened to their server, but said his efforts were "rebuffed" because the DHS was offering to provide assistance months after the FBI had provided assistance.

On July 13, 2018, Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted 12 Russian military intelligenceagents of a group known as Fancy Bear alleged to be responsible for the attack, who were behind the Guccifer 2.0 pseudonym which claimed responsibility.

Sorry, but Jesse Walters is not a reputable journalist. he's better at making fun of asian accents and owning libs. you really are an idiot bryen, if this is what you bring to the table. 

https://www.facebook.com/RealClearInvestigations/

Right-wing conspiracy bullshit. Get some better, more reliable sources. 

Just shut up you sick fuck

 

broken record 

tin foil hat

Do you use drugs? Just curious 

I take ibuprofen when muscles are screaming 

moderate to little beer and a sip of whiskey or tequila as well

you are ill, boy

 

 

And bring zero to the table

Just shut up you sick fuck

 

broken record 

tin foil hat

Do you use drugs? Just curious 

I take ibuprofen when muscles are screaming 

moderate to little beer and a sip of whiskey or tequila as well

you are ill, boy

 

 

And bring zero to the table

Just shut up you sick fuck

 

broken record 

tin foil hat

Do you use drugs? Just curious 

I take ibuprofen when muscles are screaming 

moderate to little beer and a sip of whiskey or tequila as well

you are ill, boy

 

 

And bring zero to the table

is your mom proud of you?  You neglected to answer (shockingly)


     Look...say what you want, I get the "Lord of the Flies" approach here, but I think we're at the point as an educated society where any reference to the now discredited Russia mythology just appears laughable & foolish, but by all means continue.

King

Well the Don asked Vlad & Vlad assured him that the Ruskies did nothing wrong. Since the Don believed Vlad over his own intelligence agencies, I guess the Russian mythology has been discredited. As Nancy adroitly observed, “Just as I have said to the president: With him, all roads lead to Putin.”  More from Nancy; "I don’t know what the Russians have on the president, politically, personally, or financially... This is as bad as it gets, and yet the president will not confront the Russians on this score,” 

 

 


 

 


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>>>>> I think we're at the point as an educated society where any reference to the now discredited Russia mythology just appears laughable & foolish,

 

Only to you and your ilk, Bry.

You live in a Trumpian bubble.

Ha ha ha ha, one trick pony rides again


     It's a fascinating denial of reality, a genuine "case study" of the power of propaganda...please continue 

Sick Fuck 

 

how is mom?

your prescription?

your illegal drugs?

 

 

You don't have children Bry, do you? 

fox news racist news hosts aren't reputable journalists quoting reputable news sources who closely vet their material. if this is just a joke of yours, then sure, have a laugh at our expense if that's what you think you're doing. but i'm telling you, bryen, you don't have a good track record with facts, nor do the people who you get your news from. so yeah....hahaha. jokes on us. 

do you support kanye wests presidential hopes, bryen?


     Fascinating...I'm going to gab a bite to eat, I'll check in later, but please continue, if not for my amusement, for the schoolchildren of tomorrow.

how is mom?

your prescription?

your illegal drug intake?

your psychiatrist?

counselor?

who can help you, little brother?

it is fascinating

Fascistinating...

Racistinating?

white supremacist too?

who / what would you say you align with?

 

 

Isn't Tucker Carlson taking a vacation, days after a writer on his program, Blake Neff, resigned over racist, sexist and misogynist messages that Mr. Neff published pseudonymously on an online message board.  “What Blake wrote anonymously was wrong,” Tucker told viewers. “We don’t endorse those words. They have no connection to the show. It is wrong to attack people for qualities they cannot control.” He went on to describe Mr. Neff as “horrified” and “ashamed” by the revelation of his online writing. He also said that that Mr. Neff “has paid a very heavy price."

Brian can U discuss your support of R Paul?

Are you writing in papa Paul or his anti-vaxxer son?

As the Zones fav Don supporter, to read that you haven't and might not vote for the Don this time around is food for thought.

Do U like beans?

What's your fav Jerry song?  

So many questions  

Feel free to only answer the questions that you feel comfortable answering.  

Happy Saturday  

 

Lol dave

I'm pretty sure you were comfortable with your last post

it's dnc server hacked by whom fox...

foreign owned oligarch propaganda rag.

 

I wonder how much Putin/Trump/Fox pays "Bryen" to constantly spew this silly nonsense, because there's no way he's doing it for nothing.

And LLTD, of course "Bryen" doesn't know what the hell you're talking about when you say rainbow pants.

so allegedly;

Bryan is  brainwashed by propaganda from the likes of Faux news, etc

Rest of us;  brainwashed by a long list of different sources, both media and in the real world

 

I'm going to call that a draw, we won't convince each other of anything, and no amount of opinion pieces from Bryen, or actually reports with facts by the rest of us will change anything...  fine and dandy!

 

It then boils down to the deal breaker, the major difference, why the hostilities and disrespect;

 

No, it's not the pious attitude, nor the arrogance, the condescending holier than thou looking down his nose authoritativeness instead of actual information, none of that...

 

It's Bryens inability to Denounce Racism.  How hard can that be???   

Racism is BAD m'Kay

 

It's his inability to denounce Pedophilia!  How hard can that be???

Pedophilia is BAD m' Kay

 

It's his inability to denounce Rape and Violence against women!  How hard can that be???

Rape and Violence against women is BAD m' Kay

 

I could go on, but time to water the garden, and do some research on what illegal unconstitutional treasonous BS happened just north in Portland this afternoon...      

Fascism is BAD m' Kay  

 

Namaste 

 


    
    "no amount of opinion pieces from Bryen, or actually reports with facts by the rest of us"

     Is sworn testimony considered an opinion piece?

 

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.......

Yes you moron

al trumpets lie

facts?  lol 

the don avoids the truth like the plague 

 

but not Covid 

 

you really can't be that stupid troll 

 

can you

 

how is mom?

 

Striped pants later

head dead

MR. STEWART of UTAH: Did it strike you as curious or -- that the FBI didn't take the lead in this investigation? 

MR. Henry; Remediation is essentially cleaning it up. something bad has happened. There's been an actor. There's malware, malicious software in an environment. Somebody has access to what's occurring in the environment. so the remediation is cleaning out the bad stuff and putting in place infrastructure that is safe and secure.

MR. STEWART of UTAH: okay. so you were saying that generally, they - the FBI doesn't do remediation, but _

MR. Henry: They make notification.

MR. STEWART of UTAH: Okay 

MR. Henry: They often collect intelligence that's of value to the broader Intelligence Community.

MR. STEWART of UTAH: Okay. And were they able to do that in this case?

MR. HENRY: so let me -- yes, but let me clarify, if I could. when we say "the DNC," my understanding is there was a contractor who was administering the network for the DNC, and he was the one that had been contacted by the FBI for months leading up to the phone call that I got from Michael Sussmann.

MR. STEWART OF UTAH: Okay.

MR. HENRY: so when I -- I want to be clear. when I say the DNC, he wasn't a DNC employee. He was a contractor that was administering the network for the DNC. MR. STEWART OF UTAH: All right. So I want to make sure I understand this' So DNC exists. They have a network. They have a contractor providing security for that network. That contractor is notified by the FBI that there's been a breach and that they believe the breach occurred, or a hack, by the Russian Government.

MR. HENRY: So the -- so the term that the contractor - the contractor said that the FBI told him the Dukes, D-u-k-e-s, was identified. I don't know if the contractor knew that the Dukes were associated with the Russian Government.

MR. STEWART of UTAH: Is that a common term, the Dukes?

MR. HENRY: lt's a -- oftentimes, adversaries are given a code name or some type of a reference, and that people in the industry become familiar with the nomenclature. And the Dukes is a common term associated with an actor that many people who work this type of - do this type of work in the private sector refer to that Russian actor as.

MR. STEWART of UTAH: okay. so it's not just the FBI or just your office. I mean, someone who worked professionally __

MR. HENRY: So we did - we did some forensic analysis in the environment. we deployed technology into the environment' into the network' software called Falcon that essentially looks at the processes that are running on different computers in the environment' we also looked historically at the environment, using a different piece of software to look backwards at what was happening in the environment.  And we saw activity that we believed was consistent with activity We'd seen previously and had associated with the Russian Government. 

MR. STEWART oF UTAH: And can you identify that as being -- with a fair degree of confidence that it's associated with the Russian Government?

MR. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analyst had looked at it that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment, and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 

 

NYC 10

bye wren 0

logic to bye bye wren is complete pissing in the wind

tool fool drool 

NYC 10

bye wren 0

logic to bye bye wren is complete pissing in the wind

tool fool drool 

 

if a comet  crashed in the city 

destroying  all civilizations 

 

 

and no one heard it, did it really crash at all?

pinch yourself fool

are you real?

 

pity

Treason is only ok when it’s committed by the party you support 

> Is sworn testimony considered an opinion piece?

MR. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the Russian Government.  And our analyst had looked at it that had looked at these types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were moving in the environment, and looking at the types of data that was being targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence. 


 

 

 

     "High degree of confidence"...translation:  We don't know...but it's enough to get the scam rolling 

Up early I see. Do you really think you are going to change anyone's mind on this board with your rehash of other people's words?

Why do you waste your time posting? weird way to have fun....

B's response: "They said I was too crazy to join the campaign. So I do my part by trying to antagonize a bunch of stoned out 50 - 70 year old Deadheads.
Why can't you understand? I got all this stuff in my brain I need to shit out or I'll get mentally constipated!"

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> "High degree of confidence"...translation:  We don't know...but it's enough to get the scam rolling 

President Donald Trump said at a joint briefing with Russian President Vladimir Putin that while he had "great confidence" in the U.S. intelligence community, Putin was "extremely strong and powerful in his denial" that Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

"The Russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal American affairs including election process," Putin said during the conference alongside Trump.

Trump said "I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be” Russia that interfered with the 2016 election,
"There was no collusion. I didn't know the president. There was nobody to collude with.

Take a nap, B-ry. You posted at 3:15 am and 5:45 am CA time. That's usually a sign that someone is spiraling.


     I realize many of you have allowed the Russia mythology to morph into a quasi-belief system, and as that deceptive spoon-fed reality gradually evaporates into the ether different people will react differently, that's to be expected, some will obviously lash out at the messenger, and that's ok.

    Believe the narrative if it somehow brings you some comfort I suppose, and by all means vote for Joe Biden if you believe he's cognitively up to the task...as I said when I started this thread, Biden voters are people too!

    Have a beautiful day and enjoy this great country!

>> I realize many of you have allowed the Russia mythology to morph into a quasi-belief system <<

Ironically, you bring up the documented Russian collusion more than any other Zoner.....just sayin'.

Hey, #StableGenius, you're flunking the cognitive test again. Didn't you hear #ObamaGate was debunked in 60 seconds flat by

@BradMossEsq

... right on your favorite TV channel? You're failing bigly.

https://thedailyedge.substack.com/p/obamagate-destroyed-in-60-seconds

I’m sitting here trying to figure out what exactly Constitutional deprivation was there? What is the crime that people think Barack Obama and Joe Biden are going to be prosecuted under? To be clear—and this is using the words of President Trump and his lawyers for the last three years—any sitting President can get any classified information they want. According to Donald Trump, they can launch any investigation they want. They can tell the F.B.I. to pursue only particular individuals. This is not me saying it. This is what Donald Trump has been saying for three years. This was their argument during the Mueller probe. This was their argument during the impeachment investigation. That the President has this kind of authority. So what did we find out? That Barack Obama was aware about intelligence intercepts on the Russian Ambassador, when he was talking with General Flynn? That there had just been an attack on our election a couple of months earlier. We were still dealing with the fallout of Russian election interference in 2016. There was concern about a counter-intelligence problem with Michael Flynn and they had a discussion? I’m shocked. I can’t believe they had that conversation. What is the crime?

https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1260028573693272068


    "I’m sitting here trying to figure out what exactly Constitutional deprivation was there?"

     Is that even proper English?


    "weird way to have fun"

 

     You could certainly make the argument I experience way too much enjoyment from this platform...I get that, maybe you're right.  I suppose it springs from the long held notion that Grateful Dead Tour attracted the best and brightest, a gathering of misfits with a penchant for adventure, the theory being that psychedelic technology spoke to a certain segment of an otherwise plastic, superficial society, with perhaps an aptitude for a higher level of consciousness.
 
     That's why it has me scratching my head as how the Viva community doesn't grasp the obvious that the Russia scam was so transparently a grandiose hoax on par with the great deceitful efforts throughout the history of mankind...by the way, I'm correct!

     It harkens me back to the notion we're an online community of thirty five or so, most of which were never actually on tour, and I don't say that as condescending or self aggrandizing, it's just a matter of fact...and 34 of the 35 don't see that as an issue one way or another, but it is, it's like trying to tell a stranger about rock 'n roll...but it is.

     I was driving around today flipping through the radio stations and the sermon was about the importance of meekness, I get it...a lot of my writings probably seem anything but meek, I'm going to make a conscious effort to be more meek, after all..they shall inherit the Earth.

     I really do have love in my heart for each and every one of you...I know you're good people or you wouldn't have an affinity for Phil playing bass.

     love & respect

    -Bryen

     https://youtu.be/nxjvo4BRf-Y

     

I have some bad news for you, buddy. I was on Tour, as were most of my closest friends, as well as acquaintances. The only person I know, who falls into the category of former Tour Head AND Trump fluffer, is a wet-brained spunion who lost his marbles. There may be the random born again in there too.

In general, though, you're pretty wrong.

Frog defends Boiling Water !

Loves it BryBot

Великий товарищ работы, вскоре наш заговор, чтобы уничтожить Америку будет завершена, и мы обязаны вам долг благодарности за нажатие нашей повестки дня на интеллектуальных любителей музыки, несмотря на их неверие.

 Владди

Peace

So you want to be meek so that you can inherit the earth.  

It must be difficult explaining to Viva folks how Russian efforts to help the Don is a hoax.

The Don does does seem to like Vlad so.   As for Vlad, to find an American potus that worships the ground he walks on so, must tickle his funny bone.

If folks show an inability to grasp the obvious, perhaps a little less time in an alternate universe would help.

After figuring out this Paul vs Don choice.  Love & respect back at U.  

 

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Yikes stripes 

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Day one

crying

I can very rarely post photos   I am a retard? There has to be an easy way....

my political opinions are more valid cuz I didn't travel or go on tour to see this show

lol

 

 

Mr man after playing bass for a short while

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No forensic evidence.... gotta ask Putin if that's me...

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Amazing pictures!  (love the photo album, wow!   I was living in Hong Kong at the time)

Elect Biden and Democrats in 2020.

Sweep away Trump and his racist idiot supporters. They are a loud and boorish minority. Enough of their lording it over ordinary citizens.

White nationalist 

 

Fascist

racist

haters

 

I somewhat hope that the Republicans  get their party back someday

 

Hitler bad   Ummm m OK?

 

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slick - scary work

 

so sad


      I hesitate to enter into the fray again, it was my intent to take a few days and recalibrate my approach to the insanity that has become this message board, but Slick...that should be purely disgusting and sickening to anyone who has a proper understanding of 20th Century history, if you can even sleep well after such filth I'm truly concerned for your mental state.

     Of course everyone with a vested interest will applaud the disgustingly grotesque, but it's wrong, deep down somewhere you must know it's wrong, I'm sure it will be rationalized a thousand ways...but that doesn't make it any less reprehensible.

     When your head hits the pillow this evening and you have absolutely no qualms about your disgusting display, at that point I truly feel sorry for what you've become.

Hitler = Trump  = B ry too?

 

Do not put your head on the pillow tonight

the boogeyman might attack your tin foil hat!

 

youaresofuckinglostweprayforyou

white nationalist hater criminal no ethics subhuman Trump "supporter"

recalibrate my approach to the insanity that I have become

good idea pal

get well

 

peace

The thing about being a successful (gaining some form of power) politician (no matter what stripe) is that you will be mercilessly attacked, whether justifiability or not. Donald takes criticism personally. He seems thin skinned, though perhaps politics is new to him.  The level of personal animosity between supporters and people of adversary opinions about the Don seems extra hyped.  Some folks up in treetops looking for their kites.  

 

>>> I'm truly concerned for your mental state.

Coming from you, that's a freakin' riot. 

Of "the occupant", as I have previously stated, "Here we have the American presidential equivalent of Hitler’s aide Joseph Goebbels: a manipulator of the media and a practitioner of propaganda who could fire up crowds, a person who caused the deaths of millions of citizens in his own country." 

If that photo compels you to stay away from the board you constantly come back to time and time again with your same ol' tiresome drivel, good deal. That'll be great. 

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“I just wish her well,” Trump says of Ghislaine Maxwell, who was arrested earlier this month and charged with facilitating Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged sexual exploitation and abuse of minor girls.

 

the KKK has some fine people - paraphrasing the Trumptater

law and order, but the laws don't apply to me


    "That'll be great"

 

     That tells me everything I ever needed to know, good luck in your endeavors...enjoy shaving & brushing your teeth

That's got to be one of the weirdest replies. Won't / can't even go there. 

Bry, don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does. Lighten up. It'll all be over soon.  

Just for you, since you like to post links.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep9Vzb6R_58

The Don went a bit further when discussing Ghislaine Maxwell.

"I just wish her well, frankly.  I’ve met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach...

 But I wish her well, whatever it is.”

Previously the Don also offered the following about Jeffery Epstein.  He said he was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years.

“He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Mr. Trump said at the time.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

 

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     Sickrock...obviously not enough L, what a sad tale, I should have known when you belittled the founders, go find a rock in Utah and slither back under it.


  

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     https://youtu.be/QjvzCTqkBDQ


     Meanwhile...there's an election, I would submit the Sickrocks of this world as "exhibit A" as to why 2020 will be a "mark my words" landslide victory for Donald J. Trump, his opponent obviously suffers from severe dementia, in other news the sky is blue and water is wet, but Joe Biden has an obvious cognitive disability, he's also a complete scumbag...which explains the attraction of the S[l]ickrock.


     slither on, slither on...find a rock and slither beneath it

     

      https://youtu.be/LonrsQvItUY


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                           https://youtu.be/_vStxlzD_sE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

           

just wow !

do you ever watch Trump "talk"

lost in space

 

mark my words, he (Trump) cannot comprehend, process, nor speak

and not the truth, or the facts when he attempts to, too


 

 

 

 

     John Lennon  

     Watching the Wheels

     https://youtu.be/uVXR2LYeFBI

     


 

 

 

 

     [[[LLTD watching the election results]]]

 

     https://youtu.be/Uq_jVqSAsuE
     

 

     

     


     Again, I'm arguably enjoying it a bit too much, but when Trump wins in a landslide, if I could possibly ask Mr. Slick from Utah to look in the mirror, it would be satisfyingly memorable...thank you and goodnight.


     Namaste 
     
     https://youtu.be/mD25tJT9sW8


 

 

 

 

     [[[schmucks are people too]]]

 

     



 

 

 

 

      ...for what's his name from Utah, I forget, the guy that associated the President of the United States with Hitler, I honestly forget his name, but kind of a scumbag way to go through life, I honestly forget his name...anyways, he'd enjoy this one:

 

    

     https://youtu.be/30cauLs82tA

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     I apologize, his name is "Slick"

 

 

 

     I want to see "Slicks" face in a mirror in November 4th!   


 

 

 

     [[[Slick]]]     


 

 

 

 

     At the risk of repetition...

 

 

   https://youtu.be/q03cWio-zjk     
 

 

 

   I'd treasure someone's opinion on Ron Paul...I won't hold my breath, if any of the 35 or so associated with this message board watched Ron Paul's farewell address and have an actual opinion on it, I'd be thrilled to hear it...but that won't happen, because basically Ron's speech is completely beyond the conceptual grasp of the average Viva'r although it is interesting that the "best & brightest" are positioned as seemingly on JGB Tour...back in the day, you could look around and see the 250 +/- on east coast JGB tour and have an understanding of the 250 +/- at every show.


     

     https://youtu.be/4XmSIuTqZBc

 

     Some people may feel threatened by that statement, but those are the people that chose to stay at home rather than going to the next show.

 

      


 
 

 

      ...the point being, JGB tour was distinctly different than Grateful Dead Tour...it's not that I deem it so, it just was, you could look around and realize the 250 +/- human beings at every Garcia performance, none of which other than myself are posting thoughts and memories on this platform, I realize that seems self aggrandizing, but at the end of the day, it's true.  Some of the people that post things on this platform never even saw Garcia...how often did the most obnoxious see Garcia?  Did what's his name from Utah even see Garcia?  I don't remember him on tour...maybe he saw an occasional Garcia performance when it was convenient, but I never saw that guy ever...not that there's anything wrong with that, I just never saw him around the scene...the point being, was that guy ever on JGB tour?  Of course not, only the people that were at every Garcia performance everywhere no matter what were at every Garcia performance...and those people knew each other...this guy that equates Trump with Hitler was never on tour, period, if he was, I'd know who he is...he's just a guy with a username and a password.

 


 

 

 

     https://youtu.be/w5-GzQsXqt0

  

 

 

    * probably in attendance 

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     https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/

 

     

JGB tour memories?

I thought this was a statement about Biden thread?

B ry is a little spun out me thinks.

 

Is this the post that Brayin' is trying to bury?

 

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The Don went a bit further when discussing Ghislaine Maxwell.

"I just wish her well, frankly.  I’ve met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach...

 But I wish her well, whatever it is.”

 

Previously the Don also offered the following about Jeffery Epstein. 

He said he was a “terrific guy” whom he had known for 15 years.

“He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Mr. Trump said at the time.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side

> JGB tour was distinctly different than Grateful Dead Tour. 
Now we're getting somewhere. JGB tours vs GD tours. 

> 250 +/- human beings at every Garcia performance, none of which other than myself are posting thoughts and memories on this platform, I realize that seems self aggrandizing, but at the end of the day, it's true.  Some of the people that post things on this platform never even saw Garcia.

Ah the Jerrier then though thesis.  It's true.

> Some of the people that post things on this platform never even saw Garcia... how often did the most obnoxious see Garcia?  Did what's his name from Utah even see Garcia?  I don't remember him on tour...maybe he saw an occasional Garcia performance when it was convenient, just never saw him around the scene...the point being, was that guy ever on JGB tour?  Of course not, only the people that were at every Garcia performance everywhere no matter what were at every Garcia.

So Bryan was at every Garcia performance everywhere. That changes everything. 
 

> this guy that equates Trump with Hitler was never on tour, period, if he was, I'd know who he is...he's just a guy with a username and a password.

I do remember asking Bryan to expound on the notion that being a Jerry tour head lead him to supporting the Don. 
 

>> tour memories?

I thought this was a statement about Biden thread?

Having tour memories that lead to support of the Don?
One can't make this stuff up. 
Thx 4 the memories. 

 

Eight posts in a row, Bry?

With nine you get egg roll.

 

It's obvious that you live in your own little Bry bubble, where everything makes sense because you make it all up.

 

Most Americans think Trump is nearly as bad as Hitler - luckily he's not as smart. Most people think your version of Russiagate is a big nothingburger .Most Americans will vote against him in November, and if your team doesn't cheat too much Herr Drumph will be just a vile memory.

Sorry Bry, I didn't realize how fragile you were and how over the edge you'd go. Folks, this thread is incredibly embarrassing to him and maybe we should let it die. I'll go find my rock now. 

What a weird debating technique. When pressed on the merits of Trump's own track record as POTUS, byren either posts youtube links or starts babbling about JGB tour like it was some superior, covert think tank.

ever notice how he gets meaner as the night / morning goes on?

I'm thinking Deadhead > Krisna > Moonie > Daddy got him a deprogrammer > Scientologist > 1st wife got him into Rehab > Evangelical Christian > Trumper 


  
 

 

 

    "I'm thinking"

     Keep doing that.

 

 

 

     ...on a serious note, the artwork is impressive.

You all have to admit, B-ry is fucking awesome. The shit he comes up with is at least unique.

So, Trustafarian?  Or tour rat that killed the dead?   

I'm with BK on this one. Bryen is either so crazy that it's really just a fascinating sociological experiment to watch him unfold, OR he truly is the grand mastermind of trolls and just has you all eating out of the palm of his hand.

I gotta say though, to see a bunch of alleged psychedelic warriors championing the benefits of centrist politics is weird to me, too, so in that sense I vaguely understand where B-ry is coming from. But hey, to each their own, right? 

And if you pay close attention, he's never actually expressed support for Trump, just rails on people who support Biden. It's such a weird MO, but really, every thread of his hits the numbers, so...professional troll?

What do psychedelic warriors do? 

wait.... glorifies the early 90s, only cares about the numbers, condescending, narcissistic, is always he smartest guy in the room.... who does that remind me of?  

(Now you got me googling to see how old Don Jr is)

 

Anne Coulter?

upon rolling up to his house, my friend is like "you remember bryen from tour"

me: "i dunno man"....

we pull up at 6 am to see tie-dyed bryen playing acoustic guitar on his front lawn sippin' a tall boy ipa....

me: "oh yeah, that guy"

 

 

"Playin' through" every night will corrode your brain and end your life before 65.

Is B-ry prettier than Anne Coulter?

he looked like a slightly slimmer version of the comic book store clerk from the simpsons....

 Be well bry

I am glad you can't support trump

https://apple.news/ASR116w7nT9e4mC7T66uR1Q

 

do not click on this article above 

keep attacking the dems or whomever it is you enjoy babbling about

mark my words:  be well

 

 

Really having a hard time posting on my cell phone

double posted once again

 

 

"Bryen" has already stated that he had no tour friends and apparently no car, so he would either hitchhike alone or 

do who knows what to leech onto one of the "tour busses" he's always talking about. 

It's clear you went to most if not all shows without tickets. Did you beg your way in every night? How often were you shut out because 

you had no money? Did it feel weird to beg people for "miracle tickets" and "spare change"? From what I've read over the years, just about everyone

on this board toured with friends or had a car and money/tickets, like myself, who went all across California and the country, if they felt like it.

It's called planning ahead, even Garcia did it.

 

You support Trump and his policies and you get your back up if anyone criticizes your Catholic religion and the priests who sexually abuse children.

I was at Weir's yesterday and for a split second I thought about bringing up your asinine notion that "The Grateful Dead wouldn't have existed without

the Catholic Church" just to see Weir crack up, but realized it would sound so fucking insane that Bob would think I was crazy.

Good little visit.

Best part?

You weren't there.

Hey Local, how are things going for your wife at home? Still keeping you guys in my heart and mind.

Mother, pahleeeeeze. I asked you to knock -- can't you see I'm busy Zonin.

Wait -- before you leave.. Do do you remember what years I was "on tour"?...before you sent that cult deprogrammer guy to get me.

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Ron Paul is a racist protofascist.

I liked Ron when I was 19.

I grew out of it once I realized that weed legality was not really a very important issue.


 

 

 

 

 

     Localcountyline on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 – 05:00 pm

 

     “"Bryen" has already stated that he had no tour friends and apparently no car, so he would either hitchhike alone or 

do who knows what to leech onto one of the "tour busses" he's always talking about.”

 

     I never said anything of the sort...I’d venture a guess I developed more friendships on Grateful Dead Tour than most, I had plenty of vehicles, some flashier than others, but some were absolute specimens of grandeur, I probably drove more people to shows than had people drive me to shows, and as far as “leeching my way onto tour busses” that’s absolutely ludicrous and you know not of what you speak, that you’d spend time formulating that assumption speaks to the weakness of your character.

 

     “It's clear you went to most if not all shows without tickets. Did you beg your way in every night? How often were you shut out because you had no money? Did it feel weird to beg people for "miracle tickets" and "spare change"?”

 

     •  Are you in your right mind?  I’m assuming this potshot came from my acknowledgment of receiving a ticket earlier in this thread...trust me, that was long ago reciprocated, interesting tha you should question my financial standing and label me a “beggar”, the irony...I guess that’s how they roll in your neck of the woods.

 

     “From what I've read over the years, just about everyone on this board toured with friends or had a car and money/tickets, like myself, who went all across California and the country, if they felt like it.  It's called planning ahead, even Garcia did it.”

 

     •  “Gone are the days we stopped to decide”

 

     “You support Trump and his policies and you get your back up if anyone criticizes your Catholic religion and the priests who sexually abuse children.

I was at Weir's yesterday and for a split second I thought about bringing up your asinine notion that "The Grateful Dead wouldn't have existed without

the Catholic Church" just to see Weir crack up, but realized it would sound so fucking insane that Bob would think I was crazy.

Good little visit.

Best part?

You weren't there.”

 

     •  Again, a purposeful mischaracterization of my previous statements à la Jake Tapper, Rachael Maddow or Lumber Truck [the fact that I’m quite sure you’re aware of that is both troubling and disgusting]...had you sincerely asked Bob whether Garcia’s Catholic Faith had an impact on the beauty that was the Grateful Dead or whether he experienced divine intervention as an ongoing phenomenon while on stage with Jerry, you may have received a different answer than expected.

 

     These are the trappings of trying to voice opinions while severely outnumbered and in that regards to some extent expected.

 

     A couple  housekeeping items...I do try to argue topics of discussion without being argumentative and pride myself on avoiding personal attacks [a lost art as evidenced above] I took extraordinary offense to Slick’s Hitler display and probably could have expressed myself more articulately.

 

    I also could have addressed Turtle’s repeated threats of doxxing me with more civility.

 

   Furthermore, it bears repeating, it’s quite obvious the vast majority of the Viva Community intends on casting their vote for a candidate with advanced dementia that will soon be shown to have committed acts of treason in an ongoing effort to conceal graft & corruption involving his son Hunter in Ukraine & China...please, by all means feel free to do so if in your heart you believe it’s best for the future wellbeing of this great country.

     

     Believe it or not, I sincerely wish each and every one of you the very best in your endeavors, enjoy the day!


 

 

 

^Yo, asshole...

 

To be clear, you stated that the Grateful Dead would not have existed if not for Garcia's Catholicism. 

I stated that I wasn't so sure about that,  but millions of children would not have been systematically raped if not for the Catholic church. 

You insisted that I was exhibiting anti catholic bias. 

You then proceeded to dismiss any criticism of the Catholic church's role in the systematic rape of children as more anti Catholic bias.

You were afforded many opportunities to condemn the Catholic church's history of child sexual abuse, you chose not to. 

You are a piece of shit.

 

Another good one was when you commented on the genocide of native Americans...

You said that atrocities were likely commented by both sides. I remember Javs reacted to that one.

 

 

Here's some news about your favorite pedophiles...

 

He is known only as “Doe 14.”

Raised in a devout Catholic family, he attended St. Francis Xavier in Newark and Essex Catholic in East Orange in the Archdiocese of Newark, participating in church and youth activities.

And by the time he was a teenager, his lawyers say he was being groomed for a role in what they called a “sex ring” involving then-Bishop Theodore McCarrick, the 90-year-old now defrocked and disgraced former cardinal who was cast out of the ministry last year over decades-old sexual abuse allegations.

In a lawsuit, they charged other priests served as “procurers” to bring victims to McCarrick at his beach house on the Jersey Shore, where he “assigned sleeping arrangements, choosing his victims from the boys, seminarians and clerics present at the beach house,” and that they were paired with adult clerics.

The lawsuit does not say if McCarrick asked the other priests to bring boys to the beach house.

In a press conference on Wednesday, attorneys for the now 53-year-old victim serving as the plaintiff in the lawsuit detailed a sordid, predatory scheme of sexual abuse involving McCarrick and other members of the clergy involving at least seven children, including Doe 14, that they said played out over dozens of years.

Jeff Anderson, who represents Doe 14, said priests and others under the control of McCarrick engaged in “open and obvious criminal sexual conduct” that was kept cloaked by the church.

“That continued for 50 years until McCarrick, having been publicly exposed, was ultimately defrocked,” declared Anderson.

According to the lawsuit, much of what allegedly transpired occurred at a Sea Girt beach house that has been the focus of other complaints involving charges of abuse by McCarrick of seminarian students, who he allegedly would bring down to the Jersey Shore.

“McCarrick would creep into this kid’s bed and engage in criminal sexual behavior and whisper, ‘It’s okay,’” said Anderson.

Asked about the charges, attorney Barry Coburn, who represents McCarrick, said only, “no comment at this time.”

The Newark Archdiocese also declined comment.

The Doe 14 complaint charged that boys were also selected and abused not only by McCarrick, but by other priests and clergy at the beach house, who were named in the court papers.

Gerald Ruane, Michael Walters and John Laferrera, allegedly abused Doe 14, the lawsuit claimed. All three were listed last year by the Newark Archdiocese as having credible accusations of sex abuse made against them. Ruane was listed as deceased, and the others had previously removed from ministry.

Brother Andrew Thomas Hewitt, the former Essex Catholic principal, was also accused of abusing the boy from 1981 to 1983, and named as well in a list of those accused of sexual abuse. He is now dead as well.

Also accused of “unpermitted sexual contact” when the plaintiff was 11 years old was a former priest named Anthony Nardino. He had not been publicly accused before, but was said to have left the ministry as well. Church officials did not respond to questions about him.

McCarrick, once the most recognized Catholic leader in New Jersey and a major voice on national issues for the church, has already been repeatedly accused of sexual abuse in earlier court filings.

Last year, James Grein stepped forward with a lawsuit under a new law that gives people more time to sue their alleged abusers and the institutions that protected them. He charged McCarrick sexually abused him for 20 years, even after he told Pope John Paul II during a visit to the Vatican about the abuse.

In a separate lawsuit, John Bellocchio, a former Catholic schoolteacher and principal, alleged in a lawsuit that McCarrick sexually assaulted him when he was the archbishop of Newark.

Even before any of those allegations came to light, church officials in New Jersey later revealed that McCarrick had previously been accused of sexual misconduct with three adults during his time in the state. Two of those cases resulted in secret legal settlements, according to the Archdiocese of Newark.

 

The settlements included $80,000 paid to a former priest turned lawyer from New Jersey who said McCarrick, known as “Uncle Ted,” would invite young seminarians and priests to the house in Sea Girt, where they would be expected to share a bed with McCarrick.

All that time, McCarrick continued his ascendancy in the church hierarchy, picked by Pope John Paul II as Washington’s archbishop in late 2000. A year later, he was made a cardinal.

 

https://www.nj.com/crime/2020/07/former-cardinal-mccarrick-accused-of-pa...

i never said where you live or any other items of doxx


 

 

 

 

     Lumber, I have over, and over, and over, and over again referred to Pope Francis' statement on your grievances, as anyone who has frequented this message board is well aware, I'm sure but for the current scandal you love Catholics and have a reverence for Catholicism, it's pouring from the pages of your writings.

 


     https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2018-08/pope-francis-letter-peop...

 

>I'm sure but for the current scandal you love Catholics and have a reverence for Catholicism, it's pouring from the pages of your writings.<

 

The "current scandal " that has existed for centuries?

 

Perhaps you can rationalize the systematic rape of millions of children, but I cannot. 

 


     Duly noted...are there any other items you'd care to discuss?

 

With you? No.

Oh, if you don't mention me, I will have no reason to engage with you. 

 


     ...fair enough, all the best

Joe Biden Will Be Our Next President.

I want to know more about your stylie Tour rides. Were they purchased with monies from slinging drugs on Tour, or from your trust fund? What was your favorite of the rides?


     I had arguably one of the nicest VW busses ever on tour, I ultimately gave it away to a surfer girl named Princess Leah, one of my favorite memories was leaving the show at the Rochester War Memorial Auditorium on east coast Jerry tour and it was positioned in such a way that it was visible above every vantage point of the lot directly under a street light.

     As I said in an earlier post, one of the great vehicles of my life was a double decker school bus that me and my friends traveled to the Eugene shows in and the Ruch Barter Faire...at the time it was a friend of mine's that I "leeched a ride onto" [good stuff!], but I later acquired and lived in, it was a '65 split window VW cut in half and affixed to the top of a school bus with strips of fiberglass, a pot bellied wood stove behind the driver's seat, elaborate cabinetry surrounded by cedar, propane stove, propane refrigerator, kitchen sink, handmade ladder made of branches leading to the bedroom where the French doors were still fully functional to open and greet the day.

     Another notable vehicle was a stylie BMW 3 series I hitchhiked to Sacramento to purchase, it was the quintessential California road car, a pleasure to drive.

     4 or 5 Volvos one of which probably saved my and two friends of mine's lives after being hit head-on on the 101 on our way to see Jerry at the Warfield & a 1965 Toyota Stout.

     Not too shabby for a beggar.

Bryen, I was curious what your fav Jerry song was.  It's not that important, so if you feel their's  some doxxing issue, feel free to not respond. 

While i disagree with some of your political beliefs, that's what democracy offers it's citizenry.  The whole notion of judging others commitments 

to either the GD or Jerry seems silly.  It's silly when others do it to you and visa versa.     Come on along, or go alone.  

If one is having a discussion, disrespecting others is a sure way to end civility.  That also works both ways.  

Previously you have expressed the notion that the GD (or at least Jerry) was a "sociological phenomenon that changed western civilization."

This doesn't have to be expounded on, (again no interest in doxxing) though it is an interesting idea, perhaps worthy (at some other time) of consideration.  

U do seem able to discuss things rationally.  A condescending approach either by others 2 U or U to others seems to plant ice.  

Stay healthy & shake your bones.  

  

Was the double-decker bus Dave T's?

Geez, was hoping this POS would've died (was dormant for 24 hours) but since it didn't, here's a couple of harvested contributions. 

Trump acing his test.          https://twitter.com/skolanach/status/1286374031214514176

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     It's my intent to go to my grave without attacking another's religious beliefs, it's a rather transparent tactic that speaks to a lack of credulity & substantive discussion points, it's of note we've gone so far off the rails as a society that's considered acceptable.

     Favorite Jerry Song: Ripple

     The double decker bus was not Dave T's, was Dave's bus kind of a raspberry sorbet color?

brian may have sold bryen rugs.


    Turtle why don't you just go fly a kite?  ...or better yet, sign up to volunteer for the Biden campaign, that'd be right up your alley!

 
   
     https://bidenpresident.com/Volunteer

Pay attention, B-ry. Turtle hates ol' Sleepy Joe.

Turts, tell us about the rugs that you and B-ry sat on together.


     
     Brian, was Dave's double decker school bus kind of a raspberry sorbet color?

Yes. More like faded out sorbet, but close enough.

or bryen may have sold rugs to brian.

either way, its cool and a small magical world!

also, have been politically independent since i could register to vote. so stuff that dnc rhetoric nugget in your chillum.

Is it group hug time yet?

he looked like a slightly slimmer version of the comic book store clerk from the simpsons....<<<

 

LOL.  I always kinda pictured a greasy, boney tour-rat.

But CBG from The Simpson definitely suits this troll better.

If Bryen ever handed me a chillum I'd immediately put my lips on it and smoke it like a bowl.

I actually quite enjoyed our time together. We had fun. And to clarify he did not have a pony tail and wasn't as disheveled as Simpson guy, just clear cannot gow a full beard 

group hug

 

no insults - I am guilty, as is the OP

personal or group   no condensation either ( a form of insult)

disbelief is legal...

 

I do love cool cars, perhaps too much, who can say

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I'm posting this for no reason at all.

I used to rent a house in Missoula, Montana that came in the backyard with Sam. Sam lived in a bus that sounds a lot like the descriptions above, but who knows. I think it was a 65 International school bus, painted some weird off purple color, which could be the color you all mentioned above. Soldered to the top was a split-window VW bus that had been cut above the wheels and soldered on the top (that was where his bedroom was). He had been on Dead tour I think from like 89 to 95. Maybe it's a different bus, maybe he bought it or won it in a game of cards; who knows. But Sam used to sell those weird hanging cloth chairs, I forget the name. He had a big wood beam structure up in the backyard with like 4 or 5 of these hanging chairs and hanging foot-rests. It was pretty sweet and he paid the rent in herb, so that was cool, too....

I don't click on your links 

 

but here is an interesting perspective about the cult 

and American cult / beliefs 

https://apple.news/A2F-ObKWSQ9WXltw4W1_BJg

well

I hope republicans        do something

From Jake Tapper, CNN:

“I have no forgiveness left for the Republican party.

We all knew. When he first rode that golden escalator to a paid crowd to announce his candidacy, we knew. His speech tinged with racism and misogyny was only a precursor of what was to come.

He told us who he was.

The Republicans have been sucked into the black hole of Trumpism and they are pulling the nation into the abyss. Silent, passive, weak.

While I blame him, I hold most of my contempt for the Republican Party, they had the power to stop him, but didn't.

They have the power to reign him in, but won't.

They stand on the sidelines flush with power and watch him destroy our democratic norms. They watch him violate the Constitution they all swore an oath to defend.

Today in the United States, children are torn from their parents' arms to languish in squalid conditions, caged, alone and afraid. Families remain in a semi-permanent limbo arrested and unable to seek redress.

Today in the United States at least 70,000 Americans will be diagnosed with Covid19. On July 17 it was 74,987, nearly 3 times the number diagnosed only a month ago on June 17 when it was 26,257. The death toll now tops 140,000 and projections are that a quarter of a million Americans will likely be dead by 11/1/2020. Just days before the election. We still lack adequate PPE, we still have inadequate testing, hospitals in some areas are running out of ICU beds, the data is being subverted, a document produced by the task force that shows 18 "red zones" was withheld, witnesses are not being allowed to testify, and the Republicans remain silent.

We have watched Trump abandon our allies leaving the Kurds to be slaughtered by Turkish forces. We just learned he has no interest in challenging Putin over the bounties and murder of our own Troops, and the Republicans remain silent.

An acting director of DHS, acting commissioner of CBP, and acting head of Immigration and Naturalization have unleashed an unmarked, unidentified, paramilitary force on the city of Portland. Their mission to abduct and terrorize "Violent Anarchists" who have committed the act of graffiti on federal buildings. They do this with the blessing of the DOJ under a bizarre Executive Order expanding the role of the FPS to protect "monuments", and Republicans remain silent.

We witnessed the murder of an unarmed black man under the knee of a sadistic police officer. Protests over police brutality were met by police brutality. Police insisting that they are above the law and will not be called to account for their actions. As the list of senseless and cruel deaths at the hands of police grows, the administration has sided with the police and the Republicans have offered nothing but "incentives" to stem the genocide.

He is destroying the USPS, putting it in the hands of a wealthy donor who has already ordered service to be "slowed down".

He has instructed the DOJ to negotiate away protections for people with pre-existing conditions making their health insurance unobtainable.

He is destroying Voice of America to create his own propaganda machine within the Federal Government.

He teargassed and shot rubber bullets at peaceful protesters, including the Priests at St. Johns to do a photo op.

Eliminating Trump is not enough every Republican that has remained silent and enabled this must be voted from office.

Their silence is criminal.

Their silence enables him.

Their silence destroys what made America great in the first place.

The list is endless, but the silence of the Republican party is deafening, and I will never forgive them or the people who continue to support them.

May we all get to November 3 and vote in such overwhelming numbers we destroy Trumpism forever, before it destroys us.”

 

As I hope non republicans do the right thing-- regardless of their frustrations and the "lack of activism", and focusing on "flaws"   to not vote for Biden - is a vote for Trump- agree or disagree as you will,   we are governed today by a two party system

I couldn't resist, my apologies

But as you love the attention....

I do wonder when you will wake up from your coma Bryen 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/lincoln-project-coma-video-094245388.html

 

pretty sad watching this video