Trump: NFL owners should fire players who protest the national anthem
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Trump: NFL owners should fire players who protest the national anthem
By Sophie Tatum, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/22/politics/donald-trump-alabama-nfl/index.html
Jemele Hill @jemelehill·2h
Prediction: Not one NFL owner, not Roger Goodell will say one word about what he said about Kaep or other NFL players. Not. A. One.
mike freeman @mikefreemanNFL
Why are you even bringing up Kaepernick's name at a political rally in Alabama? Never mind. I know the answer.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Oaksterdam Dan
Bob Kraft, Jerry Jones, Stan
Bob Kraft, Jerry Jones, Stan Kroenke, Daniel Snyder, Shahid Khan, Woody Johnson & Bob McNair each gave $1M to Trump.
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Piece of poop
Piece of poop
s complete embarrassment to the office and all that have held it before
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Anyone who thinks players
Anyone who thinks players shouldn't be allowed to kneel during the national anthem should probably live somewhere other than America.
Maybe China or N. Korea possibly.
Here, we have the right to do stuff like that.
Man...Hilary would have been so much worse.
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So we all agree that Pro
So we all agree that Pro Games really ought to have multinational sing-alongs before the game, right ??
Because excluding the Canadian, Spanish,
Burmese, Myanmarian, Lithuanian, Burundian, Chinese, Korean, Nicaraguan and other national anthems on any given night is RACIST !!Although they can't sing all of them on each night, maybe one or two nations can be represented per game, three or four for 'Twi-night Double-Headers'.
It's about time that Kate Hudson broad learns a few new tunes
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Stu, genuinely curious: is
Stu, genuinely curious: is your house built on an old landfill or something?
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Ateix show some simpithy Stu
Ateix show some sympathy Disco was a test subject of Big Pharma. He tested a drug that's side effect was nonsensical outbursts.
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At least felina's political
At least felina's political thinking is correct. And he appreciates Neil Young. I guess no one can be all bad.
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If people were fired for
Oddly, if people were fired for disrespecting the country, Orange Mussolini would be the first one out the door.
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Wonder how he feels about
Wonder how he feels about kids who opt out of the pledge of allegiance at school?
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LOL he doesn't denounce white
LOL he doesn't denounce white supremacists but goes off on NFL players for kneeling during the national anthem. Last time I was at a game I was taking a piss during the national anthem, fortunately no one was offended because really no sane person cares what you are doing.
He also disinvited the warriors to the White House. what a miserable human being.
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Probably will be a lot more
Probably will be a lot more players taking a knee for the anthem tomorrow.
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the nfl owners barred dump
the nfl owners barred dump from owning a team back in the day. then he ruined the USFL.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
I've read and heard a lot of
I've read and heard a lot of people comparing about Black Lives Matter and how their message is lost because they don't protest "peacefully".
Then you have guys in the NFL protesting peacefully, and the president says they should lose their job,
VERY CONFUSING!!!
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Yep, nothing wrong with the
Yep, nothing wrong with the president advocating for people to b fired for peacefully exercising their 1st amendment rights.
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worst president ever
worst president ever
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger
Word on the street is that
Word on the street is that Kevin Durant has already dissed Trump from 4 different twitter accounts this is serious shit
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Just to clarify, everyone
Just to clarify, everyone here can protest or exercise their first amendment rights while they're on the clock at work?
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Well, THIS is a surprise.
Well, THIS is a surprise.
NFL Commish Roger Goodall pushed back:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/22/trump-nfl-protests-football-243046
National Football League commissioner Roger Goodell responded Saturday morning to President Donald Trump's excoriation of players who protest during the national anthem, saying the "divisive comments" show a "lack of respect" for the nation's most popular sport.
Goodell said the league and its players were at its best when it "creates a sense of unity in our country and culture."
"Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities," Goodell said in a statement, which did not explicitly mention the president.
Trump on Friday publicly called for players who protest to be punished.
“Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘get that son of a bitch off the field right now — he’s fired,’” Trump said at a rally in Alabama for Republican Sen. Luther Strange.
He added, “We’re proud of our country, and we’re proud of our flag.”
Trump also directed his anger Saturday at basketball players, tweeting that he had withdrawn an invitation for the National Basketball Association champions Golden State Warriors to visit the White House after team star Steph Curry said that given the choice, he would not go.
"Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team.Stephen Curry is hesitating,therefore invitation is withdrawn!" Trump wrote on Twitter, the latest in a series of early morning tweets.
Curry, a two-time NBA MVP, said during the teams media day on Friday that if it was up to him, nixing the traditional White House appearance would be a "short conversation."
“By not going, hopefully that will inspire some change in terms of what we tolerate in this country,” Curry added, a reference to the president's repeated equivocations about neo-Nazis who sparked violent protests last month in Charlottesville, Virginia, in which one woman was killed.
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Guess who isn't getting an
Guess who isn't getting an invitation to the Super Bowl?
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When are the rank-and-file
When are the rank-and-file Republicans going to be scared of Trump? That UN speech the other day was nuts. I can see the Info Wars crowd loving it, but even the Breitbart dorks should be a bit on edge.
How can one not question his sanity?
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Melania will be the one who
Melania will be the one who pulls the trigger.
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I dunno, mail order bride is
I dunno, mail order bride is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. I have high hopes though for her boy Damien
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>>>Just to clarify, everyone
>>>Just to clarify, everyone here can protest or exercise their first amendment rights while they're on the clock at work?
Are you saying that being an NFL player is like normal jobs? I think I might have to throw a flag here, 15 yards for false equivalence.
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damien. snicker
damien. snicker
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Because they play football
Because they play football they're a protected class or something? Please.....
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Just to clarify, everyone
Just to clarify, everyone here can protest or exercise their first amendment rights while they're on the clock at work?<<<
Are you asking a question or trying to state something?
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the whole NFL need to take a
the whole NFL (minus tom brady of course) needs to take a knee tomorrow.
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>> Because they play football
>> Because they play football they're a protected class or something?
>> protected class
The whole point of players taking a knee is that they're protesting police brutality.
What you are seeing perpetrated by Trump, and others, is not just false equivalency, but reframing of the issue to make it about nationalism.
This is not about nationalism. This is actually literally about the fact that black people are not a "protected class." They are a targeted class within our society.
As the conversation is shifted away from that issue, and becomes one of nationalism, it villifies these people.
Who are predominantly black, as it happens. How about that.
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>>>Because they play football
>>>Because they play football they are a protected class or something? Please...
Haha protected class???? Did you hear about the guy who got blackballed from playing football because he took a knee? I guess you can rest easy that Kaepernick lost his high paying job for taking a knee during the national anthem!!
Let me ask how many times you have to stand for the national anthem for your job?
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It's all about white
It's all about white grievance and fear. Not too complicated. White people are scared and threatened by black people calling attention to police brutality, or frankly doing anything besides being a subservient underclass that exists only to serve and entertain their white superiors. Trump shares those anxieties and prejudices and bounces them back fearlessly to his adoring, alabaster base. It's why they love him and why nothing he does will break that support.
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arpaio get a pardon.
arpaio get a pardon.
nfl kneelers are sons of bitches.
sounds about right in 2017.
#takeaknee
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History has show that the
History has show that the rise of gladiator sports signals the end of an empire. It is beginning to all make sense.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Martinb
Nonsense, Rome's games went
Nonsense, Rome's games went on for centuries- far longer than the total lifespans of most empires.
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I'm pretty sure if Joe Schmo
I'm pretty sure if Joe Schmo at whatever job Hillman does was told to stand for the National Anthem before work everyday, and he refused, and was fired he might win that unlawful termination lawsuit.
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FUCK Trump ! He Has NEVER
FUCK Trump ! He Has NEVER Raked A Leaf In His Life ! = SUPER KOOK !!
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players work 5-6 days/week
players work 5-6 days/week and are only asked to stand for the national anthem once/week when they're in front of their customers. it's not some silly "white xxxxxxxxx" bullshit, it's not nationalism. i personally don't give a damn what the players do, i don't watch or go to nfl games, i prefer watching college ball games. the players are paid to be part of a weekly ritual, a performance. lots of people pay good money to see the show. many do this to escape political bullshit & every-day stress as a means of escape. i don't think players that refuse to stand are doing much to help their cause. trump weighing in has brought more attention than they ever dreamed to "the cause". but it's also brought the full political shitstorm into it as well.
some are choosing to not go to games or watch them because of the protests, which seems like a weak excuse to me.when i read the comments posted at the end of articles about this crap, seems many people are just refusing to participate in watching the sport anymore. "spoiled millionaires behaving like spoiled brats" seems to be the general consensus.
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Now that I think about it the
Now that I think about it the NFL might be the LEAST protected class of employees. Get hurt? You’re fired and we aren’t paying you the rest of the contract that we both signed either. Graduate from school with honors and want to go play in your hometown? Sorry, you were drafted by Minnesota and will be spending the next five years there if you’re lucky and stay healthy. You have brain damage from playing football and your quality of life has decreased significantly due to hazards of the workplace? I don’t think OSHA will be showing up any time soon.
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>>>many do this to escape
>>>many do this to escape political bullshit
well, since you don’t go to or watch nfl games you might not know that the us military regularly pays to have celebrations for themselves before many games. I would love to have a separation between sports and state but it isn’t the players who are dragging the fans into it in the first place. they have seen their game used as a platform for many other causes and now they are using it for theirs.
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<<<"spoiled millionaires
<<<"spoiled millionaires behaving like spoiled brats" seems to be the general consensus.
Allot of those older white fans scream the N word about 5-10 times a game every time there guy fucks up. Especially people who gamble on the games.
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Killing In the Name - Rage Against The Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
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lol. silly hippies. military
lol. silly hippies. military spending is not a celebration of themselves as the military, it's used as a potential recruiting tool as well as honoring fallen service members. if you want to protest people that gave their lives defending your right to be offended, have at it.
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FUCK MLB for the "God bless
FUCK MLB while were at it on the "God bless America" bullshit in 7th inning of every fucking game.
The 7th inning is for "Take me out to the ballgame" NOT promoting the military industrial complex.
#NoMilitaryIndustrialComplexInSports
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>> many do this to escape
>> many do this to escape political bullshit & every-day stress as a means of escape.
Young people of color in poor communities would love to be able to escape from the kind of "political bullshit and every-day stress" that Kaepernick and others are raising awareness of
Unfortunately cops keep killing them
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I shouldn't say young, many
I shouldn't say young, many of those killed are significantly older (Eric Garner, Alton Sterling)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb
Trump the draft dodger.
Trump the draft dodger.
Fuckin hypocrite.
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#DogWhistlePresident
#DogWhistlePresident
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>>>lol. silly hippies.
>>>lol. silly hippies. military spending is not a celebration of themselves as the military, it's used as a potential recruiting tool as well as honoring fallen service members. if you want to protest people that gave their lives defending your right to be offended, have at it
well let’s rewind
you said people go to nfl games, which you don’t go to or watch, to escape politics.
then you said the military puts on events at NFL games to recruit and to honor fallen members.
so how do you reconcile these two events?
The NFL has a breast cancer awareness month. I know this is probably news to you, The players wear pink and everything, it’s to help women from dying from breast cancer. How do you feel about that? It’s an NFL game, but when you go during this one month you get bombarded with info about breast cancer.
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no, you brought up the
no, you brought up the military paying to celebrate themselves before ball games. i corrected that, the military pays for what they do as a kind of commercial. and don't sound so incredulous about me not going to or watching an nfl game. i'm 6-8 hours one way from any field so that's out. i don't have cable so the only games i get are fox & cbs on sunday & most of the time they're not showing a game that i care to watch. if they do & i have the time, i'll watch it. haven't watched a game yet this season. you don't care for the military display, leave, don't watch it or protest your little heart out
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People don't watch sports to
People don't watch sports to be preached to about politics. And when it happens they tune out. And when that happens their bottom line gets hurt. As it already is.
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I’m not a protester, im just
I’m not a protester, im just pointing out the fallacy of your argument. And I could give a shit if you go to NFL games or watch NFL games but I find it strange that someone who neither attends or watches games is going to explain to someone who does why people go and what happens at those games. That’s all. I’m sure you’ll find a way to twist that around though.
And since YOU first asked the question earlier about people being able to freely protest at work, let me tell you about a group who does so regularly, the NYC police, I was reminded that every time they kill someone in a manner that their mayor balks at, that they protest by turning their backs on him while in uniform.
So there you go.
Hope you have a great day not watching football in bum fuck wherever.
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thom, the players kneelong
thom, the players kneeling didnt introduce politics into sports.
Standing for the anthem is a hugely political act already and the players kneeling is a response within that spectrum already established.
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thom agrees w/ trump.
thom agrees w/ trump. surprising.
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Trump is the Disrespecter in
Trump is the Disrespecter in Chief (DIC). He will be fired before any protesters.
Anybody who still backs this tangerine turd (Thom) is on the wrong side of decency and integrity.
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Freedom of speech except
Freedom of speech except during business hours...Merica
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So Coach Mike Tomlin
Coach Mike Tomlin (Pittsburgh Steelers) is gonna keep his team in the locker room until the National Anthem is over.
Standing in Solidarity as a team against POLICE BRUTALITY...
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Even the Pats owner is
Even the Pats owner is denouncing T
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000849517/article/nfl-nflpa-respond...
NFL & Players Union:
The NFL and NFLPA showed support for players and players' rights following remarks from President Donald Trump, who while speaking at a political rally on Friday, said NFL fans should boycott games and team owners should fire players who fail to stand for the national anthem prior to games.
"The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture," NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement released Saturday morning. "There is no better example than the amazing response from our clubs and players to the terrible natural disasters we've experienced over the last month. Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities."
NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith released this statement Saturday morning:
"The peaceful demonstrations by some of our players have generated a wide array of responses. Those opinions are protected speech and freedom that has been paid for by the sacrifice of men and women throughout history. This expression of speech has generated thoughtful discussion in our locker rooms and in board rooms.
"However, the line that marks the balance between the rights of every citizen in our great country gets crossed when someone is told to just 'shut up and play.'
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"The flag should never be
"The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free."
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm
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NFL est. 1920
NFL est. 1920
National Anthem signed into law March 3, 1931 (Hoover)
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CBS pre-game show Charles
CBS pre-game show Charles Barkley ripped Trump a new ass stating how he thought it was appropriate for Trump to make his remarks in front of the ignorant folks down in Alabama.
Wow!
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Seems like on talent alone,
Seems like on talent alone, Colin Kaepernick should be on someone's roster already. Trump's provocation will make that a given.
Last night in New York, Stevie Wonder joined the protest;
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politics/nfl-stevie-wonder-kneels-trnd/ind...
Maybe Weir will bring back the knee-drop.
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Charles Barkley
Charles Barkley
Born and raised in Leeds, Alabama.
College: Auburn
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Yeah, ain't that something, T
Yeah, ain't that something, T.O.D. Barkley does not hold back.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steven-mnuchin-says-nfl-players-can-...
WTF. this guy is totally clueless about the constitution, and why is the treasury sec chiming in on this issue?
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Steve Mnuchin ? HA HA = SUPER
Steve Mnuchin ? HA HA = SUPER DORK ! These Times ARE COMPLETELY LAUGHABLE = UTTER DISGRACE !
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so what are they distracting
so what are they distracting the sheeple from now?
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I read that this round of
I read that this round of distractions was cover for big loser Big Luther and more healthcare legislation failures.
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"If a player wants the
"If a player wants the privilege ...
... of making millions of dollars in the NFL or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect our Great American Flag or Country.” - Donald Fuckin' Trump
What naturally follows from that is ...
If an Idiot wants the privilege of living in our White House, he shouldn’t disrespect it by calling it ‘a dump’.
If a traitor wants the privilege of working in the Oval Office, he shouldn’t disrespect it by using it to convey classified information to our Russian enemies in ‘secret meetings’ behind closed doors.
If an incoherent blowhard wants the privilege of addressing the UN, he shouldn’t disrespect it by threatening to destroy another country, or referring to their leader by a silly nickname.
If a draft-dodger wants the privilege of being the commander-in-chief of our military, he shouldn’t disrespect them by putting them in harm’s way to salve his own ego, or telling them that their sexual orientation makes them unfit to serve.
If an ignorant dumbass wants the privilege of being treated with respect by world leaders, he shouldn’t disrespect them by not even bothering to learn the names of their countries.
If a lazier-than-fuck con-artist wants the privilege of working for his countrymen, he shouldn’t disrespect them by spending his days tweeting, watching TV, and playing golf.
If an obvious racist wants the privilege of being our nation’s leader, he shouldn’t disrespect it by calling a black athlete a “son-of-a-bitch”, or calling white supremacists “fine people”.
If an immature bully wants the privilege of being seen as an adult, he shouldn’t disrespect it by tweeting gifs of hitting Hillary Clinton with a golf ball, or falsely accusing his predecessor of having “tapped his wires”.
If a blatantly stupid ignoramus wants the privilege of being in charge of the government, he shouldn’t disrespect it by not knowing how it works, and not bothering to educate himself.
If a know-nothing jerk-off wants the privilege of holding the highest position in the land, he shouldn’t disrespect it by acting like a low-life thug at home, and a ridiculous buffoon on the world stage.
If a self-serving narcissist wants the privilege of being POTUS, he shouldn’t disrespect the office by lying, lying, and lying again – repeatedly and unabated – to the citizens he has sworn to serve.
If a shit-for-brains moron wants the privilege of being called “the leader of the free world”, he shouldn’t disrespect that title by trying to diminish the freedoms of his own citizens.
If a classless imbecile wants the privilege of enjoying the perks of the presidency, he shouldn’t disrespect that by pocketing profits from the sale of his own POTUS-labelled merchandise, charging the taxpayers for housing his SS entourage while he plays golf at his own resorts, and using donations to his “re-election fund” to pay the fees of lawyers who are desperately trying to keep him out of prison.
When it comes to any suggestion that anyone is being “disrespectful” of our flag or the country it represents, one need look no further than the Idiot-in-Chief who has shat on both every single day of his tenure in office.
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A week ago, six protested.
NFL Players Protest Trump And Racism In Games Across The Country
Football players have been galvanized by criticism from the president.
By Samantha Tomaszewski, Daniel Marans
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nfl-protests-response-trump_us_59c68...
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A week ago, six protested. Now 150 players #TakeAKnee.
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Significant-day-off-the-field-12225...
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That Trump. He's a
That Trump. He's a firecracker, you gotta' give him that.
He sure gets things stirred up.
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Mueller dropping back . . .
Mueller dropping back . . . throws deep . . .
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Hey Lance. Hope you don't mind a little good natured editing. Fixed that for ya:
That Trump. He's a Cracker, you gotta give him that
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Players, managers react to
Players, managers react to Maxwell's protest
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/255956258/baseball-reacts-to-bruce-maxwell...
A's catcher Bruce Maxwell took a knee during the national anthem on Saturday and Sunday, kneeling with his hand over his heart while facing the American flag prior to Oakland's games against the Rangers.
Maxwell's decision to kneel came after President Donald Trump -- speaking on Friday in Huntsville, Ala., where Maxwell grew up -- made reference to NFL players not standing for the anthem as employees who, as he put it, should be fired by their teams. Maxwell, an African-American raised in a military family, joins Colin Kaepernick and other athletes in attempting to raise awareness about brutality and injustice at the hands of authorities by kneeling during the anthem.
On Sunday, some MLB managers and players shared thoughts on the issue.
Indians manager Terry Francona, whose son served two military tours in Afghanistan:
"I just think, if somebody felt strong enough about it, there would be a way as a team to show support, because we do things together. It's easy for me to sit here and say, 'Well, I think this is the greatest country in the world,' because I do. But, I also haven't walked in other people's shoes. ... I think politicians would do well to come into a Major League clubhouse, because you have people from everywhere. You talk about diverse backgrounds. Yet, if you have our uniform on, it's 'we.' I think people could learn a lot."
Cubs manager Joe Maddon:
"I understand why the players responded the way they did, after I read the comments. It's just unfortunate we've arrived at this point where it's so easy to have this dialogue between the highest office in the country and everybody else in such a negative way. That's the part that's really disappointing."
Dodgers manager Dave Roberts, an African-American:
"My father served this country for 30 years. I understand. ... I would just ask every person to be educated. And when you make a point ... really think long and hard and be educated on why you're doing what you're doing. And after that, it's each individual player's decision."
Rays pitcher Chris Archer, an African-American:
"It did take awhile in baseball, but I think it's mainly because the other sports that do that are predominantly black. Our sport isn't, so I think the criticism might be a little bit more harsh. It took somebody really special that had a unique background to take that leap, and the way he went about it was totally, I think, as respectable as possible. Just letting everybody know this has nothing to do with the military, first and foremost, noting that he has family members in the military. ... From the ownership level, to the front-office level, to coaching, to the players, you know it's a little bit tougher for baseball players to make that leap, but I think he's the right person to do it.
"The way he went about it was perfect. You know, he didn't ambush his teammates, his ownership group. He let everybody know what he was going to do. As long as they approved, he was going to do it. He had the utmost respect, and I think it served its purpose. Hopefully we can just have change going forward. We've been talking about it enough, but just the change of people's outlook on other people and human rights hopefully happens from this."
Astros manager A.J. Hinch:
"Our players, our staff, we're socially aware of what's going on. Obviously, sports brings a lot of things to the forefront of people. I'm proud to be an American. I'm proud to have the rights we have. I know who's fought for those rights and I know they're very meaningful to everybody in our clubhouse and around our sport. The other issues are all very personal for everybody, and I wish everybody would respect the right that we can all have the same rights but yet disagree and work towards a common goal and a better world. The No. 1 thing for me is we've got a lot to do. I've seen that through Hurricane Harvey here, and I've seen a city galvanized and come together and all the work we've done and all the work citizens of Houston have done to help one another. It's happened in Puerto Rico, it's happened in South Florida, Dominican. There's ways to make the world better, and I think we focus on that, we'll be better for it."
Cardinals manager Mike Matheny:
"I think we have people all across the board with how they feel about this. Unfortunately, what our president said hurt a lot of people, and those are American citizens that have rights, and those are athletes who are going to have their own ideas and thoughts of how they want to defend those rights. I think when we get into these situations, I can never put myself in somebody else's shoes or circumstances and how their life has led to the point of how they think about topics. But when people are offended and they feel that their rights are being infringed upon, in this country we have a voice. I think that's what we're seeing now.
"I have two grandfathers who were both in World War II, and I think about them often, two of the greatest men I've ever met. It's an incredible generation, and I would hate to do anything to disrespect them. And I believe our ownership would say the same thing. I believe they appreciate the fact that our guys do respectfully stand out there for our anthem and for our flag. But this is a different issue. The thing about this one is that it doesn't really seem to be an issue about patriotism.
"I'll continue to salute the flag with my hand over my heart because I believe in the bigger picture of what our country stands for. I also understand, too, that this is a tough topic for a lot of people, and they need to respond how they feel best. This has caused an issue in our country and in sports because athletes have a voice."
Red Sox manager John Farrell:
"Baseball more than any other sport is clearly a melting pot, and I say that with all due respect. We have players from all different walks, there's six countries represented in the clubhouse. There's socioeconomic backgrounds that are so diverse, and yet we come together because of one thing and that is a great game, and we respect their backgrounds, we respect their opinions. I think it makes us a better team and a more wholesome team because of the differences that we have."
Mets manager Terry Collins:
"I'm not a big political guy, not by a big stretch of the imagination, but I've been blessed enough to travel the world and I respect our country immensely. We do have rights here, which other places don't. I respect that, also. But I'm proud of my guys that they go line up every night, and stand and face the flag."
A's manager Bob Melvin:
"[Maxwell] couldn't have handled the communication leading into that better than he did. I think the last thing everybody wanted was to be surprised by something like that, because we all know we're going to be asked questions about it. Not only did he communicate what he was going to do, but he went into the reasons for it."
A's teammate Mark Canha, who has placed a hand on Maxwell's shoulder while he has knelt:
"I think it's a small step forward, but I think we're starting to move in the right direction as a country when it comes to fighting for what's right."
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Well
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OAKLAND -- As President Donald Trump lurches closer to certified insanity, he is unwittingly doing the country a great service that, should we survive his dangerously whimsical term, will bring us closer to realizing our potential.
He’s unifying the previously disconnected and energizing the formerly apathetic. He’s even shaming some of those previously beyond shame.
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To my mind - nothing is more
To my mind - nothing is more disrespectful to our flag than racism.
And that's exactly what Chump is - an unapolegetic and ignorant racist.
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Trump is amazing man.
Trump is amazing man.
He is turning me into a football fan at 44.
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5 Pointed Responses from
5 Pointed Responses from Players and Coaches to Trump's Racist Jeremiad Against Black Athletes
The San Antonio Spurs' Gregg Popovich calls the U.S. an "embarrassment to the world."
By Jacob Sugarman / AlterNet September 25, 2017, 10:48 AM GMT
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Trump now using this to try
Trump now using this to try and raise cash.
https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/912456276864532481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw...
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"Plantation Politics" - Keith
"Plantation Politics" - Keith Boykin