Update on my son's Muslim girlfriend

double down and tell your son he has 6 months to find an american girlfriend or face being waterboarded

>>>>>Is this a form of discrimination that I should be pissed about?

About parents telling their teen kids what is acceptable?  My house my rules.  Most of us heard that growing up.  If you want to manufacture some outrage sure, but there's lots of parents who only want their kids dating within their religion.  Not just Muslims.

Not uncommon really.  Many people experience the pressure of marrying like kind. 

An African-American friend told me her mother told her, "Don't bring him home if he can't use your comb."

My SIL has a mother who is Alabama several gens back to the English.  His GG grandfather is buried in a confederate cemetery in Northern AL.  He was born in Arkansas and is about as American as can be.

His  father is from India.  Some family members, including my mother, think of him as Indian and there is definitely prejudice.  

People, they're the worst.

Big wheel turns slow, gotta keep trying to turn it  

And yet upwards of a third of all relationships in this country are of mixed ethnicity.

That's weird, my bff in high school was Muslim and her parents weren't strict at all about who she dated.

>>>>>And yet upwards of a third of all relationships in this country are of mixed ethnicity

so the vast minority of them then.

Within a year you'll know if 

she wants money, what she wants

I taught some kids in VA whose Muslim families were not rigid. 

I do know folks in a Prod/Catholic marriage who agreed the marriage is ok if the kids were raised Catholic.

It is really all over the place. 

Shakespeare dealt in AMND.   "As Lysander tells Hermia, the course of true love never did run smooth. Often swift, short, and brief, love is besieged by class differences, by age differences, by war, by death, and by sickness."   Cliff notes  

You could add religious and cultural differences too.

If the parents are conservative in their religious beliefs, it's not uncommon - regardless of the religion.

Do you care if your son marries a Muslim woman and raises their offspring in the Muslim faith? 

lovehaight,

thank you 

>>>so the vast minority...

Considering interracial marriage was illegal up until the late 60's your snark seems out of place,

>>>>>Considering interracial marriage was illegal up until the late 60's your snark seems out of place,

Only in the asshole of America (the South)

Funny how a religion that subjugates their women is so celebrated by the left. Let's have a woman's March but forget about women subjugated by the largest religion in the world. So enlightening..... keep those hijabs on and shut your mouth as you don't serve our political purpose. 

The Left celebrates Catholicism?

In obedience to Sacred Scripture, many Catholic women wear some kind of veil or headcovering. Some wear a headcovering only at Mass. Others feel called to wear a headcovering at other times during the day, as well as at Mass. Many non-Catholic Christian women also wear a headcovering. 

These women are following the call of the Holy Spirit. Society discourages women from wearing a headcovering and from doing anything else which shows submissiveness and obedience. Yet these women have found the light of truth in the midst of dark times. 

The moral law requires all women to wear the veil on their hearts. 

A woman should not wear the veil on her head, until she is wearing it first on her heart. 

A woman who wears the veil on her heart accepts the place that God gives to women in the Church, the family, and society. 

Women who wear the veil on their hearts are imitating the Virgin Mary in her humility, submissiveness, and obedience to Christ. 

The veil should cover her head, but not her face. It is first and foremost symbolic of humility, submissiveness and obedience.

http://www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcovering.htm

hijab porn is booming

I would have zero problem with my son marrying this girl, having kids, and raising them Muslim.

But, obviously, that is not my call.

he says no way.

It's not clear to me, what is he saying "no way" to?

It's really up to the kids/individuals to find their own path, of course. And it seems that's Rick's approach and I concur. Just my humble opinion. 

Mike Edward's your idiocy is showing, what a loser you are printing stuff from the fifteenth century, your mother must be so proud.... lol,no wonder nobody likes you here.

The Catholic Church's Code of Canon Law was updated in 1983, Fafa, at which time the requirement for women  to cover their heads was lifted, but it's still practiced by some Catholic women today.

http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/06/are-women-required-to-cover-their-heads-in-church/

Lol, try going to church once in awhile loser. You make me laugh. That was Vatican 2 back in 60's and even then nobody did it, only for certain sacraments but you're a hater being a hypocrite.  You're an idiot, go play with your boy Kirley.....

Pictures of the muslim gf would help clear a lot of this up. 

Her name isn't Mia Khalifa is it?

>>>>>>>They told her yesterday that she had one year to find a nice Muslim boyfriend or face being disinherited.

I think that type of order has been passed down from a large number of parents, representing a variety of cultural, financial, racial, religious, etc, concerns.  For generations.

Always up to the lovers to make their decisions, based on the information at hand.

I think someone may call that "The Art of the Deal."

Good Luck!

Jeez, he just turned 18 and doesn't want to get married? What a cad!

>Her name isn't Mia Khalifa is it?

 that's my girlfriend

Tell your son to knock her up.

 The disproving parents always get real sweet when they hold their grandchild and their superstitious  beliefs melt away....

Fafa, I'm not sure what you were going on about or the context, but it makes no sense. It's merely a way to put down the Left and the Women's March because they didn't rant about Islam.

Fact is, liberal or conservative, I highly doubt that one Zoner thinks it's okay to stone a rape victim for infidelity, or for women to not be able to drive or get an education.

Interestingly, I doubt that any Zoners have deep dealings with the nations that subjugate women in those ways. However, both our President and Secretary of State have and do. 

So, you're angry at the Left for not speaking out about it, but have nothing to say to the people who make millions and billions through their dealings with the douchebag oppressors?

Why didn't you take your girls to the March and have signs about the Muslim subjugation of women? Do you actually care about it, or do you just care that the Left doesn't say enough about it?

Rick, thanks for explaining. It sounds like he's thought about it and has a good sense of how difficult it might be for everyone.

18-22 seems awfully young to get married. Personally I think most folks start to figure their own stuff out in their late 20's and thirties. And until you've got your own stuff figured out, it seems prudent not to be having someone else trying to figure it out and/or you trying to figure out their stuff. My 2 cents.

>>>Funny how a religion that subjugates their women is so celebrated by the left. Let's have a woman's March but forget about women subjugated by the largest religion in the world. So enlightening..... keep those hijabs on and shut your mouth as you don't serve our political purpose. 

Big difference between celebrating and opposing unconstitutional discrimination.

Personally I have equal contempt for all fundamentalist religion, don't want those ideas in my science books but I don't want to round them up either.

Now the Women's march has a hijab wearing organizer who was on stage during the rally.  Which is it for today's alt fact spin? Some on the right are saying the whole WMW was a Moose Lamb conspiracy. Can't have it both ways.   

18-22 seems awfully young to get married. Personally I think most folks start to figure their own stuff out in their late 20's and thirties. And until you've got your own stuff figured out, it seems prudent not to be having someone else trying to figure it out and/or you trying to figure out their stuff.>>

I got married when I was 23. My wife was 19. I had just retired from touring for 5 years straight. We had no idea what we were doing except we wanted to do life together. 15 years later, we are still doing the same. 

Not everyone should do that, but some might. 

"Why can't you find a nice Jewish/Catholic/Southern/Italian girl" said thousands of parents since the beginning of time.  Isn't that why Ivanka Trump converted to Judaism?

Mainly, this will be something the girl will have to work out with her parents.  It sounds like she may want to step outside of their orbit an a number of ways.  That can be a challenge depending on the dynamic of the parent/child relationsgip.

Has your son met the parents?  That might be a good way for the girl to show her parents that he's a nice boy.  I have a friend who married a muslim woman and had to "convert" to Islam before the wedding.  FYI.

Holy fuck; trump's Jewish?

&,

Yea, parents. Since, kids. 

Oh, the daughter. 

I got married when I was 23. My wife was 19. I had just retired from touring for 5 years straight. We had no idea what we were doing except we wanted to do life together. 15 years later, we are still doing the same. 

Not everyone should do that, but some might. <<<

Some know what they are doing, some are lucky, some have both, and some don't make it. So glad it's working for you! It took m a second try ;)

Do you care if your son marries a Muslim woman and raises their offspring in the Muslim faith? >>

Islam / the Muslim faith is a patrilineal society. For the children to be Muslim, your son would need to convert.

Retired from touring for five straight years...

From '97-'02?  What shows were you going to?

Do Muslim women scream "oh allah" during sex? :)

Had more than one friend in Korea, white guys, who were dating Korean women and wanted to get married.  The Korean family said absolutely not.  No marriage.  

From '97-'02?  What shows were you going to?>>>

Summer 1997 to Fall 2001. Most shows. Furthur in the summer, Ratdog, Phil, and any other shows that crisscrossed those tour schedules and made sense financially and if I enjoyed the music. 

Sorry to stray from the possibly racist thread subject.

>Sorry to stray from the possibly racist thread subject.

DAT BE RACIST!!!!!!!!!

yeah, being a "lefty", i so love me a good muslim beatdown on women! but i/we hate all other religions...nice brush you use there fafa, picked it up from the thom/dog crew.

speaking of, where's the rest of fafa's ilk? thom, dogfood, and the other white supremacist supporters. 

Funny, I have stayed away from here do to that troll Fafa. He is very rude. I started talking about all the marches and gatherings I have been doing. The man flipped his lid. He still thinks I am some other dude, and I am not. 

I have never witnessed a guy like him hanging out with Deadheads. It's funny, yet sad.

good luck Fafa 

i hope you find love

....

F​AFA IS ALL ​ KNOWING

Comedy gold! Good work Zoners. 

did you keep the re-bar pic creek?  

More Zoners should start threads like this.  

Any other Zoners not like their teen kids significant others parents?

what's a miget?

I liked my teen daughter's boyfriend's parents way more than I liked the boyfriend.

>>>That's weird, my bff in high school was Muslim and her parents weren't strict at all about who she dated.

They were likely "Muslim" in the way a lot of folks I know are "Christian or Jewish." More in name and family history than actual practice. Those are my kind or Muslims, Catholics, Jews, whatever.

My wife works with someone who is muslim. He is a father with a daughter. She just got married in a PRE-ARRANGED marriage without meeting her to be muslim husband at age 21. It was all set up by the families. She did not have a choice. This is the way of life for them. Meet the father who is very nice though has his opinions due to a different way of life growing up. The father never consider the daughter not marrying someone from a pre-arranged muslim marriage. Got the feeling it is not only religion but monetary status in what family you would allow your daughter to be wed to another man. Is it right or wrong - hard for me to judge due to many parts of the world are very different then the US and we get insulated from other cultures and ways of life.

Not sure if this helps or not Rick though thought it was on topic and would share it...

Thinking more about this - For a different perspective on this rick...

My wife and I have talked about this person and his way of life for years. What I have learned is the muslins have a honor code. If you break that code there are consequences. In other words, if some one in the muslim family does a disservice to the family they are shunned. They can not see the family ever again.

With the daughter dating your son she would be disinherited. This is a big deal for the women and her family and should be taken seriously.

If the tables were turned rick would you allow your son to marry someone though you would never see him again due to your strong believes against them getting married?

Have learned many things from this muslim man and see his side and try not to judge due to the WAY I WAS BROUGHT UP in the US. Am I being prejudice against a race I really know nothing about...except mostly thorough the media till I met this person and heard stories about the way they do things.

It's "prejudiced", and Muslims are not a race.

I know more than a few Italians that still have prearranged 'dowry' type marriages.  In this area we have many Albanian Muslims and also many Muslims from the middle east that marry/date outside of their religion/race. Pigeon holing any race or religion has brought us to the boiling point that we are experiencing in our country. 

I figured as much, Scottocs, every religion has it's extremists and moderates. I should add that I met many of their Muslim friends and family, and they were all similarly very modern thinking people, at least around me, but I doubt they were doing it for my benefit. There's no way they'd force an arranged marriage on Nilou, that's archaic.