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I'm going there tomorrow,looking for the ice cream graveyard and Heady Topper.

Where are you headed?  The Alchemist is closed until Tuesday but there's plenty of places to find it.

The ice cream graveyard is in Waterbury behind the Ben & Jerry's factory just north of town on Rt. 100.

While in Waterbury - you might find some Heady at the Village Market or the Craft Beer Cellar - both in the village. Possible two 4 pack limit at either location. Call first.

In Speculator now, on way to UVM for college visit tomorrow. Thanks for the info!  Happy Easter.

 

>>>In Speculator now, on way to UVM for college visit tomorrow

 

That's a nice route.  Are you taking the Champlain bridge? Foam brewery is close to UVM on the waterfront.  Highly recommended if you enjoy trying different beer.

Yes, we are going over the Champlain bridge, very scenic.  Foam brewery added to itinerary!    

Foam for sure. On the waterfront. Yes I.

We found the ice cream graveyard.

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Mission accomplished.

 

 

Looks good China. Have fun!

its like an east coast colorado?

T levels in Vermont are some of the lowest in the nation.

Can someone explain to me why the most petty and jealous Americans live on the west coast?

JR is officially the biggest idiot the Zone has ever seen. I mean, like very low IQ type idiocracy.

We have an excellent mental health system in Vermont, JR. You and your "person" could hand out stickers at WalMart, and then they could help you learn to wipe your ass. 

Oddly, his Zoning was way better when he was doing dope. Something to think about?

I forgot JR was a doper. Now he's just a dope.

Oh my papa....

Vermont is just New Hampshire With More Subarus.

and fewer African Americans.

And much more liberals too. And way fewer Republicans, less shooting ranges, better craft beer and cheese, better ski areas, more limiting business regulations, a sales tax, more taxes overall, less crime, better maple syrup...

Yep, like I said.

New Hampshire With More Subarus.

VT and NH are vastly different.  New England is weird like that. 

 

True. And Maine isn't really like either one.

The Green Mountains & White Mountains are vastly different geologically as well.

>>VT and NH are vastly different

A big part behind that is the fact that the bottom third of NH is really a bedroom community for greater Boston.

jealous of what?

 

Our fountains of T, of course.

>>>VT and NH are vastly different.

That's an understatement.  One thing that makes Vermont unique is Act 250 - a comprehensive land use scheme that preserves Vermont's rural and small village culture by making it very difficult to construct things like billboards, McDonalds, and Wall-Marts.   You can really see this by crossing the bridge over the Connecticut River from White River Junction, VT into Lebanon, NH.   On the Vermont side, there is nothing but little villages and country stores but as soon as you cross over into New Hampshire, there are all the big box stores, brightly lit signs, and fast food places galore. 

 

 

Good morning ladies.  

You just knew this would be trolled by the goon squad. Nothing to see here folks.

When i visit Vermont that ice cream graveyard is on my list.

I'm guessing the World's Largest Ball of Twine is also high on your list, Fog?

Don't forget discount liquor stores Ken.

 

I'll admit that I'm not a fan of Heady Topper or Sip of Sunshine. 

Who's in the Goon Squad?

There's something to be said for the NH Liquor Outlet and rest area. It's very convenient

 

when i travel, i realize how backwards most states are...

Not a good way to start off your week Brian K. 

Yes Turtle. Like not being able to buy liquor in a supermarket in NY.

Savages.

No liquor except in state run liquor stores in Oregon. Wine and beer almost anywhere, but no hard stuff.

<<<VT and NH are vastly different.  New England is weird like

 

 

shhhhhh. we both know that, but that's not what's going on here.

 

 

As far as Heady Topper, I much prefer Stoneface IPA, plus you don't have to play the stupid "scarcity" game.   I'm going to give it to Lawson, though. That Sip of Sunshine is a damn good beer, imo.

Seriously, JR, dId you OD and get revived, only to have brain damage? You are one dumb-ass mofo. 

gloves off...

Gloves? I'm sure the retort will be along the lines of a catty middle-school girl who was born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

JR is harmless.

So much wining, crying and lashing out. It's honestly a little hard to watch a grown man's dignity slip away. 

Get it together!

Did your "helper" post that for you while you were handing out smiley face stickers at WalMart?

Jr is trying to fit in with the so called A listers by trolling at opportune times, not unlike some others around here. I warned him about hangin with the wrong crowd.

It's okay, Fog, he'll once again take it way too far and get booted. It's what he does.

The different distribution laws always trip me up from state to state.   I put 2 cases up on the belt at Wegmans in PA & I thought the girl was going to have a heart attack.  When I tried to be sly and separate it into 2 orders the manager came over to tell me that I needed to bring the first order to the car and then come back through the line.  The guy actually followed me outside.  Needless to say I didn't go back.

HL - Unless you're in VT, Heady is off the table. I've haven't had Stoneface yet.   Sip distributes in CT but it's a part of that beer chasing game. 

2nd Request:

Who's in the Goon Squad (and are they the A-Listers)?

Thanks for clarifying, fog.

>>shhhhhh. we both know that, but that's not what's going on here.

 

 

What is going here? It's cool kids stuff, I just know it.

Fo6

Good questions ned. Do you think you're an A lister?

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>>>Who's in the goon squad

Fo6, Gravystain, and Lil McSix'r?

Biggest goons on VLZ, hands down.

Stop stealing my material Mark. You could at least come up with something original, i know that's hard for you.

That Lil McSixe'r is surprisingly high in calories and sodium.

I am going to a wedding in Vermont next monah with an after party at Nectars with 'special guests' . I was told I could bring 3 extras if they were chill people. So far it's not looking to good that ill be inviting any of you.  If behaviour improves I might reconsider. 

been to vermont twice and both times were awesome.  went to the shelburne museum, who cares.  

>> Good questions ned. Do you think you're an A lister?

 

I'm a goddam independent. Why do you feel the need polarize?

Ned's pretty awesome.

I'm just having fun here ned, are you ok, do you need a hug or a cookie?

I hugging a cookie already, fog.

  The lurking beast

>been to vermont twice and both times were awesome.  went to the shelburne museum, who cares.  <

 

bigb?

Fact: The more nicknames for other Zoners one comes up with the more "grown-up" they make themselves appear to be.

Rhode Island is underrated, and a well kept secret....dont tell anyone

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We're having a lot of fun in VT.  We met a guy at Foam that is originally from near us in Rochester NY and now owns a brewery in Old Forge.  He said the month of April is slow so he is travels to other breweries in the area to trade recipes and best practices.  That's why he was at Foam.  Tonight we are ubering to town (not worrying about drinking and driving), walking around Church street and will eat wherever we end up.  I have a case of Heady Topper to take home with us.

 

 

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Glad you're having a good time in our fine state, China.  Hope the college visit went well!

What a mess

Hi Tracy, yes the college visit was good.  Turns out UVM is it, he will be going there.  He was accepted at 5 of the six schools he applied to and after a lot of visits and stack ranking, all things considered, he picked UVM.  Now I have an excuse to come up to VT more often. I like it here. 

We had dinner at a little farm to fork place called El Cortijo in a 1950's diner, loved it!  Super tasty food and the margaritas were great.  

Vermont sounds like a great place to visit. Or maybe live, if a person wanted to leave Eugene and the west coast.

Anytime you want to come to Vermont, Judit, I can think of many here who would be honored to have you stay with them. 

It is interesting to note that you live in New York, China>Rider, and you will be sending your spawn to college in Vermont - while my wife and I live in Vermont and it looks like we will be sending our spawn to college in New York.

It must be a cosmic balancing of the forces of the universe or something like that.  What school is your spawn going to?

 

Congrats to your son, UVM is a great school.

 

She appears to have chosen Ithaca College. Interestingly, Ithaca struck as very much like Burlington in many ways. she has lots of fiends at UVM, but after 18 years in Vermont - she wanted to leave Vermont for college.

Ithaca is a great town, it was on his short list.  When we visited the college the tour guide pointed out that you could "look down at an Ivy League school" from there.  That's because the elevation is higher and you can see Cornell. 

Among other schools, she was also accepted at Lewis & Clark - and that would have about solidified a meet-up with Judit, but she dedided in the end that it was too far away from home.

 

 

Congrats to your girl, too, Six...she will no doubt do great things no matter where she lands.  

Thanks, Tracy. 

IMG_1930.JPGBreakfast at Henry's Diner and the obligation picture of Nectar.  It's a beautiful day to drive home.

 

A picture of Nectar's. Not exactly 710 Ashbury - but it's what we have. lol

 

Next time you come - please let me know - we will get you to Hill Farmstead and much more.

Gravy Fries anyone?

I wish. No gravy fries for a long time now. :(

>>>>Vermont sounds like a great place to visit. Or maybe live, if a person wanted to leave Eugene and the west coast.

I had the pleasure of staying in Vermont for three years during law school.  In many respects, it does seem like someone took the Willamette Valley and plunked it down in the middle of the Northeast, with similar liberal politics, progressive land use schemes, and thriving hippie and DIY cultures.   But everything in Vermont, from the weathered Green Mountains to the picture perfect little villages, seems older and more compact and without a big urban center like Portland (Burlington is roughly one third the size of Eugene).  While the Adirondacks in Upstate New York to the West and the White Mountains of NH to the Northeast provide somewhat of a geographic buffer from the sites and sounds of the East Coast, after a while you get the sense of being on an island, surrounded by much different and places like Boston and Plattsburgh, NY.  By comparison, the Willamette Valley is just a small part of a much bigger geo-political region stretching from San Francisco to Vancouver, BC.   Still, Vermont is the only place east of the Rockies in which I could ever see spending an extended period of time.

>>>among other schools, she was also accepted at Lewis & Clark

 Congrats on getting the kiddo into college.  Lewis & Clark was my second choice for law school, but went with Vermont because (1) I wanted a chance to live in rural New England and (2) there are much fewer distractions in a tiny village out in the sticks of the Green Mountains compared to Portland, Oregon.   The law school isn't in Burlington as many people assume, but is instead in little South Royalton in the White River Valley about 30 miles south of Montpelier:

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Good to see Lil McSix'r really settling in to his element on the Vermont thread.

Our kiddo got accepted to Lewis & Clark and UPS. She felt L&C was a bit too uppity.
I liked UPS a lot and was hoping she went there, but the rain discouraged her, and she has chosen Centre College in KY. It's official...she's a Colonel. :)

Is this the nickname you think will stick? Really?

 

I just like the way it rolls off my keyboard, Lil McSix'r.

It's fun.

any vermonters been to miss weinerz in winooski? 

is this the nickname you think will stick? Really? <<<

 

I don't think Ned has the authority to change the Centre College mascot.

 

 

 

Have you been to Danville, KY, beast?

They have a Cracker Barrel.

Trey played a Portugal the Man tune, "Feel It Still" this past weekend.

 

Not too bad.

Nice use of the female singers.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHQlnOlWkA&feature=youtu.be

 

He has ties to Vermont.

 

 

I also like that he covers Ooh Child.

Sorry, HL73, I forgot you have to keep one foot on the floor:

I applied to UVM and was rejected. Visited UVM on our way to Augusta '84, then visited UNH (they rejected me, too). UVM was my first choice, but CU and CSU accepted my ass and west I went....

<<<Sorry, HL73, I forgot you have to keep one foot on the floor:

 

 

I'm not sure I understand any of that post but I hope you are having a good day.

I'm sure its just my own reading comprehension here and I'm missing something.

i can't find kentucky on a map ned.  no.

Drop of one those MOAB's on the state and just start over. 

>>>I just like the way it rolls off my keyboard, Lil McSix'r.

Its not too late to stop using Lil McSix'r before you embarrass yourself even further here.

Naw. Think I'm going to stick with it, Fo6.

Lil McSix'r is the only member of the Goon Squad without a nickname. Well, he was, I should say.

seems like a cuck that guy.

Simply tethering my previous post to VT.

Fo6 isn't going to like that, Beast.

You can do better than that Mark, well maybe not. I see you're still attempting to steal Goon Squad for lack of original thought. Looks like you guys might have a new member.

((( You Guys )))

Wait, is that the Goon Squad or the A-Listers?

What is your group's name, Fog??

 Honestly, Mark. I don't really care whatever any of you idiots want to post here. 

6 seems like a cuck. i don't know the other guy.

What is a cuck?

Do you think "cuck" is short for Cuckoo and rhymes with Kook?

If so then you are brilliantly wrong in your usage. 

 

You seem like a complete moron, btw.

 

Lil McSix'r is getting McLashy.

Mark, why are you competing with beast to be the biggest moron here? 

6 doesn't care what you guys think

Is this what you're saying, beast?

cuck

A word used by White Supremacists to solicit sex. Because they believe people whom they call cucks would want to fuck them. White Supremacists have no preference whether to be fucked by a flesh penis or a plus-sized strap-on, but black leather is mandatory.

(from Urban Dictionary)

 

>>>Mark, why are you competing with beast to be the biggest moron here?

 

3.6

Ruh roh. Lil McSix'r is getting very McAngry!

Ned, lets start with the so called A listers.. These are a select few from the Goon Squad that have self proclaimed themselves A listers, one being JR..  This particular group seems to think they are better than some others here.This is all the detail i go into now.

Maybe beast should take that cuck out of his mouth and try to use his brain more effectively.

Brochaco's reading comprehension is just terrible. lol 

<posting so Lil McSix'r can't triple post>

You're welcome.

 So you are competing with beast to be the biggest moron, Mark.  You have your work cut out for you, but I'm rooting for you. 

((((( I don't really care whatever any of you idiots want to post here )))))

 

I think you actually DO care. A lot.

Do we really need to clarify the definition of a cuck?    Holy christ...

 

 Honestly, Ned, post whatever you want. I am sure you care way more what you post that I care about what you post. Post whatever you want about me. Go ahead. You have my blessing.

How old is this 6 dude?

I had no idea what it meant, so I looked it up. So I guess, yes, I needed to define it.

 

Six, can I also get your blessing to post whatever I'd like about you?

Thanks in advance. smiley

Oh yes it needed to be defined. Had no idea beast swung that way.

 

"a cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own"

that "cuck fancer" group was around here last week. the name doesn't really work for me...

6, I'm cool with everyone here.

I am intrigued by Fog's constant polarizing. Labels are his best friend. I think he thrives on conflict.

Fo6 needs the calming presence of a majestic steed to feel safe.

What we're witnessing is a broken man with a equestrian shaped hole in his heart. I always keep that in mind with Fo6.

Lol

I meant that 6 watches/masturbates while his girlfriend/wife/whatever takes a dark niner from a more physically substantial male.

 

it wasn't meant as an insult since i think he's into it.

>>Six, can I also get your blessing to post whatever I'd like about you?

What part of >>Honestly, Mark. I don't really care whatever any of you idiots want to post here. << didn't you comprehend?

Poor Mark. You are surely winning the moron race with beast now. Aren't you part of the group of idiots here? I already said ANY of you idiots can post whatever you want.

 

At least HL was on target.  A very basic definition;  Cuck =  you know your wife is getting banged by the big dick next store and you let it happen. 

Haven't you guys been paying attention to politics --- every ass hat alt righter throwing that name around daily.  And for god sakes expand your porn consumption. 

Don't sugar coat it, beast.

Oh you meant a cuckold, beast. What kept you from actually using the correct word in your first post about it? Your feeble mind?

Cuck was mentioned in The Good Fight

Ned, nice false labeling. Are you starting up conflict with me.

Gents: please take this thread back to Vermont and away from the put-down, bickering, one-upsmanship, and yes, polarizing stuff. Thank you.

Just reporting my observations, Fog. No dog in this fight.

>>>I already said ANY of you idiots can post whatever you want.

 

Thank you, Lil McSix'r. 

 

 

Admin, please make note. 

 <<<you meant a cuckold, beast. What kept you from actually using the correct word in your first post about it? Your feeble mind

 

 

it's been pretry much everywhere the last election cycle abbreviated as "cuck".  

 

kind of speaks to the bubbles people are in politically if you aren't aware of that term.

I was doing just fine posting about Vermont with China>Rider before these idiots showed up, Judit.

Then Mark showed up and the attacks started.

Anyone can see the flow of the thread as it happened.

>>it's been pretry much everywhere the last election cycle abbreviated as "cuck".  

I think it takes a cuck to know one, HL73.

You granted your permission, Lil McSix'r. That's a binding agreement, and you will be held accountable to it forever.

Anyway, doesn't Vermont have a "mud season" or something? Sounds awful.

lol. that's not how any of this works, 6.

you can't shame someone for being informed.

nice try though.

 

 

 

Can we just say Vermont is the lesbian sister of New Hampshire?

beast ruined it by crossing the line of decency.. not cool.

Wives and kids are off limits, at least they should be.

>>that's not how any of this works, 6.

It is to. Humph!

lol!

Fog - if these posters wish to appear like children who daily squash Judit's desire to have more people contribute here more often - then let them go ahead.

They don't care. So why should you care?

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Speaking of cucks, anyone seen Noobie McDoobie around? What a guy.

I wanted to contribute a story about my experience eating Chubby Hubby in the Green Mountains but that Beast scared me off!!!

Can we get an update on the moron contest standings?

I still feel like I can win this thing.

 

McDoobs flamed out after Hoover suggested he say hello to OG for him, Ateix. There was some stuff about Nirvana before that; but the final straw was Hoover genuinely being nice to him. Apparently it was more than he could take.

lol 73

Maybe some bad blood between OG and the mighty McDoobs. That wily ginger certainly had some emotional flareups; I could see how that would put a strain on a complex relationship like theirs.

Cuck is a Trumper slang word. Hopefully more people have no idea what it means or we are all doomed.

 

Mark, i think beast has won today, don't be jealous there is always tomorrow.

 

Truffle Kerfluffle. I'd give it a 5..

I'm surprised you aren't heading to the stables by now, Fo6.

This all seems very traumatic for you.

>> Cuck is a Trumper slang word

[Citation needed.]

treat island

judit on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 – 02:27 pm

Is this what you're saying, beast?

cuck

A word used by White Supremacists to solicit sex. Because they believe people whom they call cucks would want to fuck them. White Supremacists have no preference whether to be fucked by a flesh penis or a plus-sized strap-on, but black leather is mandatory.

(from Urban Dictionary)

 

 

That all seems a little involved.

Why am I better than you fog? 

If you want the list I would be more than happy to oblige. If not then I more than understand why you don't want to go head to head. 

Is this what you're saying, beast?

thank you for your inquiry.  see post at 2:57pm for answer.  

>beast ruined it by crossing the line of decency.. not cool.

Wives and kids are off limits, at least they should be.<

 

um he really didn't do anything other than explicitly define it for people...

if you took it personally, that's on you...

by the way, i'm sure vt is nice like 2 or 3 mos of the year.

Actually Ned was asking for the list. I know who is on the list.>>>

 

>>>um he really didn't do anything other than explicitly define it for people...

it was clearly directed a six

>>if you took it personally, that's on you....

Certainly not personally, just looking out for all of us on how far to take the barbs.

Don't be a cuck, Turtle.

will you be shuttling the mrs. to the bang in your rav 4?

No, I'll be taking her there in your mother's car, Turtle. 

>> Certainly not personally, just looking out for all of us on how far to take the barbs. <<

One could argue you crossed a line by worrying about anyone other than yourself.

3 and 2 count...  Swing, and a foul ball to left field.  

 

 

 Just kidding. Of course I'll be taking her there in my BMW. Maybe you would like to meet me there and throw some coins at me in my car? 

perhaps.

I care about everyone here, including you ned.

Are super troopers comedians from Vermont or Canadias? 

How's Vermont Pizza?

Neither 

Only slightly better than the shitty Mexican food Vermont has to offer, 73

Pizza and Mexican food are 2 of the 5 basic food groups.

I make my own Mexican food that tastes much better than anything in any restaurant here.  I don't eat much pizza since I turned 50 as I'd rather drink beer and it's very hard to do both without gaining weight when your metabolism slows down. Plenty of good vegetables here in Vermont. That's an important food group for me.  If you want to live a long life - it should be your most important food group too.

....and that's one to grow on!

 

 

Have to ask, Ned, what are the other 3?

Beer, coke, cigs.

I have fond childhood memories of waking up early, driving to Vermont and skiing all day with my father. It's a beautiful state.

My first time skiing was at Stowe circa 1978.

My first time getting drunk and barfing in a church was in Woodstock, VT circa 1982.

Well, I'm still good in the beer food group at least. I quit cigs 14 years ago unlike some fools here - and I gave up soda years ago too

Meanwhile, as the spouse of an employee, I have enjoyed a complimentary season pass at Stowe for the past 18 years. It is the best mountain the East has to offer and Vail is in the process of purchasing it - so next year I will get a complimentary EPIC Pass and will be able to ski out west for free too.

Virginia has fair Mexican and pizza if you know where to look.  The coke, beer and cigs are amazing here, though.

6, I got booted off my high school ski club in 1983 after a trip to Stowe. Before our last day skiing, it dumped like 2+ feet. Before the storm the only trails open were the ones with snowmaking, and that wasn't many. So, for our last run we decided to cut a rope and ski Nose Dive. Little did we know it, but the last guy in our group fell and lost a ski. Our friend didn't get to the bus for another 2 hours, which meant we arrived back in Delaware at 2am instead of  midnight, and no cell phones to notify the waiting parents (oops).

Vermont

Virginia Is For Coke Lovers....

6, I don't think Ned was talking about soda, but I could be wrong.

China, good for your son. I'm sorry some folks had to soil this thread.

Funny stuff, Ned. I will take a run on Nose Dive this weekend for you and your old buddy.

73 - as you might remember - my brother lives in Virginia - so I am well aware of how good the cigs are there.

Personally - I find that any pizza made in the USA outside of the Tri-State area sucks, but that's me. Especially that cake they make in Chicago.

You know - I thought Ned might have meant cocaine. I quit that even longer ago than cigarettes.

Can we get Vermont 200?

Y'all are a bunch of druggies.

6, I remember riding the single chair and the wool ponchos. Good times!

Then you have Stowe cred. The wool poncho was not a Sears poncho. 

Vermont is magnificent, the people, the nature, the music, the history all add up to make it one of my top five states.

 

Hello children, how was your day today?

Nedb has Stowe cred, which is cool. 

I assume Stowe is a collection of small, icy hills?

We just had a Chuys open up near here, been wanting to check it out. Speaking of food, well seafood, we are supposed to get a real good crab season here in VA, can't wait...

Hi local, I've seen it before, no thread is safe on the zone.  Hope you are doing well, hope to see you on the next trip west.

This is a great thread, C>R.

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For the fun of unexpectedly hitting 200 posts here - keep it weird Vermont!

 

 

Patrick McGoohan

 Number 6 on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 – 03:03 pm

I was doing just fine posting about Vermont with China>Rider before these idiots showed up, Judit.

Then Mark showed up and the attacks started.

Anyone can see the flow of the thread as it happened.

Actually in reality if you follow the flow of the thread, BK is the one who started with the personal attacks.

Patrick McGoohan

 Number 6 on Monday, April 17, 2017 – 07:25 am

I forgot JR was a doper. Now he's just a dope.

 

That's from well before St Mark joins the thread.

Nice work, Hoover. I wonder how Six will respond to these rather damaging facts?

He usually goes with "I was just joking" or "you just didn't get what I meant" or something along those lines.

Hey Fog, how were you planning on removing those bear claws?  Do you keep a hacksaw in your trunk just incase you need to dismember some road kill? 

Also, do you have zip ties and duct tape in the trunk too?

Thanks.

 How about if I go out with "You can suck my cuck.", Hoover?

Does that break up the monotony?

aww hoover standing up for Mark again. quaint, like a Vermont Village.

You boys stay on topic, ya hear?  Its easy. Like "Vermont has some of the best beer made, way better than say Fat Tire"

More like Hoover reaching around, but...it is nice that he looks out for Mark.

>>>>aww hoover standing up for Mark again. 

 

No, just calling Sixer out on lying.  Just turns out he talks about Mark a lot so he was included.

 

Sorry if how it actually happened isn't how you would have liked it too.

Truth hurts sometimes.

Boo Hoo-ver, don't be jealous that I talk about Mark more than I do about you 

The Goon Squad doesn't care for your facts, Timmy Hoover.

Six, weren't you crying to admin not but a few hours ago? You know people can still read your posts, right?

Mark has a new group nickname to use! He is very excited.

 

I went through an entire box of Kleenex.

 

I'm not taking sides Six.  Those are for Fo6 to make.  I'm just commenting about this thread because I wasted my time reading it.

Yeah. I thought it was fun to take Fo6's bad material, turn it around, and apply it to you guys. 

You will now be known as the Goon Squad. Embrace it.

 I will sleep so much better knowing that, Hoover.

 Nothing new with that style, Mark. All your best material was plagiarized from others.

I bet you even stole the real story of Dead & Co. from somebody else too.

 

 

Look Team Douchbag is at full strength..A sight to behold.

 

It is a gloroius sight to see Timmy prance in and White Knight it for Mark.

 

 

 

Does anybody really like Cherry Garcia? 

Mark won't like that last post, Fog.

 

Ooh look - did you see what I did there? I took Mark's bad material, turned it around, and applied to him.

Cherry Garcia is pretty good. I don't like it as well as Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough, but that's a high bar.

Have you ever invited Fo6 to Vermont, Lil McSix'r?

True, I got personal with JR. That was about 200 posts ago.

But let's get real. Blaming the personal attacks in this thread on me is like blaming WWI on Gavrilo Princip. A thread about Vermont was a powder keg waiting to explode. It was bound to be a shitshow.

If he Zone is one thing, it's consistent.

Have you ever invited him to Colorado, Marky Mark and The Funky Bunch?

Vermont has some of the best hiking trails. The Long Trail has many fantastic sections.

>>Blaming the personal attacks in this thread on me is like blaming WWI on Gavrilo Princip.

Unfair, BK. Hoover is not going to understand a fact like that.

Oh you mean the post where Mark was confused and thought beast was posting to me. hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa, yes.

 

Cherry Garcia is not bad.

I wasn't confused, Fo6. I posted that you weren't going to like that post, which was 100% correct. You're very defensive of the other Goon Squad guys.

Before everybody started calling Six "Lil McSix'r", they used to call him "Captain Vermont".

Phish Food is really fucking good!

For the record - I like gelato much more than ice cream, but rarely eat either.

I beg to differ, Six, I think that most in here will get the reference. We seem to be a high IQ lot, but with very small penises. Thus, this shitshow.

 <<<Blaming the personal attacks in this thread on me is like blaming WWI on Gavrilo Princip. A thread about Vermont was a powder keg waiting to explode

 

 

Damn, is it  "post like Dennis Miller" day again already?

>>>>>>Blaming the personal attacks in this thread on me is like blaming WWI on Gavrilo Princip.

 

I'm not blaming anyone elses actions on anybody else.  All you knuckleheads are responsible for your own stupidity just like I am for mine.

Just disagreed with Sixes timeline of when things started getting personal in this thread.

Yes you were or you would have said sixer, not me, hahahahahahaaaaaa, goon.. You can expect more and more moments of confusion now that you are 40..

>> The Goon Squad doesn't care for your facts, Timmy Hoover. <<

 

Ah, finally some answers.

Fog, have you ever looked into Mandy's mirror?

Oh, Timmy! Don't be such a meshugana.

I wish you would lighten up and you didn't care so much about what I post, but you seem to care a LOT about what I post.

Why is that?

Don't flatter yourself Six.  I would have the corrected the record had I read that same post from anyone else too. 

>>>Yes you were or you would have said sixer, not me, hahahahahahaaaaaa, goon.. You can expect more and more moments of confusion now that you are 40.

 

No, that wasn't the joke actually. Are you even married? I've always thought you were like a weird loner guy, for real.

Listen, I've found things get uncomfortable for everyone when I have to explain stuff to you, Fo6. Let's move forward.

It's not about flattering myself or anyone else.

Why is correcting the record here so important to you?

Why are you that OCD or anal retentive about posts on a dbmb?

 

Do you realize how stupid these threads are when they devolve into this shit?

Relax and stop worrying about "correcting the record" in regards to petty bullshit.

 

There are way more important things for you to ber doing.

 

You even said you "wasted your time" reading this thread - yet you keep wasting time contributing to it. Do you realize how amusing that is?

Manky O'neill

 Foghorn on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 – 06:34 pm

Look Team Douchbag is at full strength..A sight to behold.

 

It is a gloroius sight to see Timmy prance in and White Knight it for Mark.

 

Fog, care to address the content of my posts instead of trying to create a stupid motive for them?

Why is correcting the record here so important to you?

 

You're the one who suggested people go back and reread the thread.  Why is it important to you?

 

Why are you that OCD or anal retentive about posts on a dbmb?

lol

 

Six, I understand why some zoners don't really care for me.  It's funny to me when some people don't understand why others don't like them.  I think you're firmly in that category.

The bear claw thing did raise some disturbing questions.

I'm buying you the first two beers when we finally meet, Timmy.

There are numerous shipwrecks in Lake Champlain. Some from the 1700's and also the war of 1812. The last time I was in Vermont, it was 4th of July and they shot off fireworks above the Lake. It was beautiful.

Moving forward. No way i don't like being alone.

 

Mark, have you ever visited DC?

 

Yeah I went to DC once, Fog.

Meh. The Smithsonian was cool, and I like Fugazi.

I'm buying you the first two beers when we finally meet, Timmy.

Right on.  I don't have anything against you personally.  We'd probably hit it off great.  Sometimes I think people add too much of their own inferences into why people post certain things instead of what they actually posted and that goes both ways as does all the bullshit on here.

 

Well Timmy, the intent was never to disrespect the animal. I probably could have explained it better, if you really are interested i would consider answering. I was under the impression you were doing the normal Timmy Trolling.

Do you consider road kill a hobby, Fo6?

When did you visit DC? No its not a hobby.

 

'96, I believe.

That's interesting. Obviously you have some experience with road kill to be able to determine the level of decomposition simply by driving by with the windows down, right?

Mark, Fog is part Native American. He intuitively knows animals and shit like that.

There are some huge improvements to the downtown area, 20 years is a long time.

In taxidermy once something turns nasty you can't get the smell out and it should not be saved or attempted to preserve. Just like that Doc Martin episode.

>>>There are numerous shipwrecks in Lake Champlain.

Plus an elusive lake monster.  That's what I heard.   Anyone ever see "Champ"?

Here is the proof:

Champ.jpg

It will be sweet when the next Doc Martin season starts, I hear it will be in the fall.

Outlander season three is coming in september also.

A lot of asses with red hand marks in this thread. 

Typing the word 'Vermont' on the Zone is basically Six's bat signal.

Mark, I have some shocking news for you. Allen Edmonds is middle of the pack (go figure). Evidently, Alden are better.

That's not really shocking, BK.

Alden is considered one of the finest shoes in the world, and the price point reflects that.

I'd argue that AE represents a great value, if you're looking for an old school, American made, bench crafted dress shoe; but you can drop serious bank for much higher quality shoes if you're inclined 

>>>>One thing that makes Vermont unique is Act 250 - a comprehensive land use scheme that preserves Vermont's rural and small village culture by making it very difficult to construct things like billboards, McDonalds, and Wall-Marts.<<<<

This is how I see VT even though I've never been there.

They did manage to sneak a Dollar General into Chester, VT, despite some local disapproval, but I think DG's success in that case resulted from some lack of clarity with local zoning regulations or something like that.

My father just gave me a pair of Aldens. He really wanted them, they didn't have his size, so he got a size too small and never wore them. They fit me just fine. How can you go wrong with suede tassel loafers?

>>>>As far as Heady Topper, I much prefer Stoneface IPA, plus you don't have to play the stupid "scarcity" game.<<<<

Jimbo J, outside the Cap, handed me the only HT I ever drank. I almost declined the offer, but I saw it was an HT decided you know what I believe I will take one. Thanks Jimbo!

That "scaricity" thing is tedious, amusing, and interesting too; I live in a small, rural, sprawly town, and the craft culture/technocracy is getting to be full on. The effectiveness of limited and rare releases fascinates me. If I was still in grad school, I could gather socio-linguistic data for days at my work. 

 

Hi Tracy and Jill!!!

Hammer!!  So good to see you around!

That Dollar General almost didn't happen; it took three years for all of the permits to go through.  The whole place stands in stark contrast to the town aesthetic, but you know, cheap Brillo pads and canned meats are hard for the masses to resist.

Never really been to a Dollar General, but I give props to the owner. He never graduated from high school, and is now a huge supporter of adult education and literacy programs.

Well now...if brillo pads cant save this thread....nothing can...

>> You even said you "wasted your time" reading this thread - yet you keep wasting time contributing to it. Do you realize how amusing that is? <<

 

This should be the VLZ mission statement.

Does Phil still take lead vox on Lady With A Fan when he does Terrapin?

I just came back from eating a boatload of sushi and sashimi with my sweet baboo, but I see things are still shaking here.

Nice hot sake too.

Lots of stars out tonight here.

>> Sometimes I think people add too much of their own inferences into why people post certain things instead of what they actually posted

I think that ALL times.

I figured you juet tuckered yourself out, Lil McSix'r.

Big day in the Vermont thread for you.

>>>>>>> You even said you "wasted your time" reading this thread - yet you keep wasting time contributing to it. Do you realize how amusing that is? <<

 

No.  How amusing it that for you?

I generally consider zoning a waste of time, yet still do it.

Can't say I share enthusiasm for cherry Garcia, Mark. Unfortunately there was a flavor I used to really like but I used smoke way to much herb back then and I can't remember what the fuck it's called. It was good though.

You know, for some people Zoning is more than a waste of time. They are the ones I really worry about. I'm not sure we have any of them right now, but we've had some doozies in the past.

You ever watched porn and zoned at the same time Brian k? 

love the homo-erotic put downs tucked up in there...

>No.  How amusing it that for you?

I wanted you to guess.

 

Turtle, it's good that you express your love for something at least.

Turtle how are the new glasses going for you?

 

So Vermont hates Walmart i'm guessing? How about Home Depot or Lowes, is that frowned on also.

We're more averse to fast food than we are box stores. In fact, one town that has WalMart and Home Depot has no fast food.

the electrics are fine fog.

the hobies are going to be sent back, they are too small for my face.

 

94.3% of the population identified as white not of Hispanic or Latino origin in a 2013 US Census estimate.

WTF? That's almost inconceivably homogenous. How does that happen? Why do minorities stay away?

You do remember me suggesting you go try them on for fit and feel before ordering.. I know Electric states the size as some others do.

Glad you like the Electrics..

It's a small, cold and rural state. Burlington, the biggest city, is interesting though. 35 languages are spoken at the high school. 33% of students are "students of color," and 28% have English as a second language.

Keep in mind, Burlington skews the state numbers. All that is in the biggest city. Imagine how white the rest of the state is.

That's why we have such shitty Mexican food, and ethnic food in general.

The Mexican food in VT can't be as bad as the Mexican food in Ireland.

If they have Taco Bell in Ireland it is!

 

Here's the demographics of my town, 25 miles from Burlington: The racial makeup of the town was 97.80% White, 0.26% African American, 0.12% Native American, 0.65% Asian, 0.26% from other races, and 0.89% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.67% of the population.

Don't you people ever stop? Admin asked you nicely. Show some respect

>>>>>Don't you people ever stop?

 

Thinking about Mexican food?  Not really.

Speaking of Vermont's demographics, another weird thing about the state is its lack of population growth and how the number of residents has only doubled in over 160 years (from 314,000 in 1850 to around 625,000 in 2010).   By contrast, the overall total US population today is well over thirteen times what it was in 1850 (23 million v. 315 million).   And this phenomena is not about the small geographic area of the state restricting population growth, considering that Vermont is currently ranked 30th in population density.  

( you people )    

polarizing, ned won't like this.

Bob Weir has always been polarizing.

 

Here's a Vermont Dead show.

https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-13.sbd.sacks.1614.sbeok.shnf/gd83-04...

I really like Mexican food.

Admin, I'll give you my Colorado green chili when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!

>> my Colorado green chili

Can I get a recipe? 

 Nice link, Ned. That show was legendary! 

 

Besides B&J ice cream and cheese, is there famous VT dish? I can't think of one other than misnomer items like frappe and grinder.

That's a secret power that only Colorado-born natives with Hispanic heritages can weild, Ender.

I am willing to overnight you a vat of Santiago's half/half though. That offer stands for everybody but Six, who never repaid my kindness in sending him two bombers of Colorado stout. 

Never forget.

>> That offer stands for everybody but Six,

I extend this snub to Gravytrain.

Let's just throw Fo6 in for the trifecta, Ned.

Unlike Fog, I'm not into the grouping thing, Mark.

Maybe he has a bear-meat based green chili recipe.

You BITCHEZSZZ need to respect my good name!

Mark's green chili recipe doesn't exist. If Mark will send me a container of Santiago's, I'll reciprocate with something even better and more authentic. 

Do you require B&P for this offer???

 

Thank for the offer St. Mark. I think I'll look it up and try to make it myself this weekend. I have found I can make better Mexican food at home than is available to me locally (and I'm not even a good cook).

I'm not a good cook either, Ender. Luckily, we do have our green chili bases covered locally.

You'll get nothing and like it, G'stain.

I've got everything I need, Marky. I'm in the Zone. Your bs isn't necessary and all of CA knows CO food, beer, weed & etc. sux!

Have a great day trying to catch-up to your superiors. (It won't happen)

Even Nedb had to send his daughter to CA for some autentico life. 

Sounds good, Gravy.

You still aren't getting any green chili. Sorry. 

Think I'll have chili verde for lunch today. 

Your fake offer is stil fake, Mark. 

Mark, I wasn't kidding when I posted that Bill drank those bombers. I honestly never saw them.

It's funny watching the SoCal folks outside of SoCal.

"Here, Bro, this is called a coat...."

Gravy is still confused about the whole green salsa vs. green chili thing? 

 

Lies, Six. You drank those bombers 

>>>is there famous VT dish? 

Has there really been a 300+ post Vermont thread without a mention of maple syrup stuff?

All over the state, there are hand painted signs by little dirt roads down to the hallows advertising maple syrup.   And when I lived in South Royalton, it seemed like every business (no matter what) sold maple syrup on the side, including the auto dealership and the tombstone maker.   Even got to go to a sap boiling party one spring and made my own.

 

Until you personally deliver beer to me here in Vermont - I am going to hold my breath and believe you don't love me.

 

You would think a maple syrup mafia would have consolidated all that independent sap under one unified, violent criminal organization. 

The sunglasses game is run that way. 

We've settled in a climate that's ideal for human existence, hence the prices. What's funny is you high-altitude boys acting like living in snow and ice is normal and conducive to living your best life. Just admit you're there because that's where grandpappy's jalopy broke down on the way to the coast, and we can go from there. 

Chili verde is a pork dish, Mark. You poor, ignorant bastard. 

My wife works in the ski industry. Pretty sure that living near snow  is necessary for that occupation. 

Glad to see you people kicked it down a notch, thanks

Left our home windows open the other night. Won't need to close them for six months or so.....

All my Dockers are shorts. Or, "short-pants" to Mark since he's previously had trouble with the concept. 

 

<<<Gravy is still confused about the whole green salsa vs. green chili thing? 

 

 

it's baffling that he is doubling down on this considering the drubbing he got the last time. 

 

 

and I'm pretty sure this Rockstar (weir) clown hasn't earned the right to "you people" anyone here.

>> First comment in thread twenty minutes after name is mentioned

>> Hoity-toity comment concluding with departing phrase "Have a great day"

>> Continues posting through the afternoon

Glad to see some things never change.

Glad I'm in your noggins. You know who you are.

Agent73 doesn't know the difference between chili verde or salsa verde. Why am I not surprised?

73, new people have a opinion too.

<<<doesn't know the difference between chili verde or salsa verde. 

 

 

talk about opening one's mouth and removing all doubt!

You're an idiot, 73, which was well-established before you waded into tomatillo territory like a lost puppy seeking love. 

 

>>>>>73, new people have a opinion too

 

So do people who pretend to be new people.  So what?

^ there it is.

Colorado Green Chili does not use tomatillos. Salsa Verde does. You're in foreign waters, Gravy. Best to turn around now. 

Lol

Gravy clearly still doesn't understand. Gold 

maybe i can settle this...

<<You're an idiot, 73, which was well-established before you waded into tomatillo territory like a lost puppy seeking love

 

 

Bwahahahahahaha.

dumbass.

 

 

like I said.....talk about opening one's mouth and removing all doubt.

 

keep digging, Grimey.

Chili verde uses tomatillos...dammit Nedb. I don't care for/about "Colorado" food confusion--do you realize how oxymoronic "Colorado green chili" sounds this side of the Rockies? It's literally a contradiction only made possible by cultural and linguistic dissonance. From that point of view it's interesting and quaint, but that is all. 

This 73 guy is weird

Hey, Bro, those aren't mittens. They're called socks and they go on your feet....

<<<<new people have a opinion too.

 

 

but let's be honest here.

you aren't new, are you?

Gravy, I'm going to type this out slowly in the hope that you will read it carefully.

Green chili is a regional dish from New Mexico and Colorado. It is not related to salsa verde in any way.

Does this make sense to you?

>> Chili verde uses tomatillos.. <<

Exhibit B

The pack works together, encircling their prey cutting off any available escape routes until one of them can gain the upper hand to slow the target, thereby giving the pack a sure meal.

 

i like the hatch valley green chile...

You assholes made today's cardio work fly-by, thanks for that. Now go out and get some, BITCHEZSZZ!

That awkward feeling, 73? You've been used and shunted aside. 

<<<That awkward feeling, 73? You've been used and shunted aside

 

 

lol.

you aren't that good at taking the temperature of a thread are you?

 

You were wrong before and you are clearly wrong again about this.

It's actually incredible to behold, isn't it?

Say what you will about the rest of the Goon Squad, but nobody does the whole "face first into a brick wall" thing like Gravystain​.

Okay, we've reached a critical point. Talk about the topic, not the people whose opinions differ from yours. Talk about chili, talk about Vermont, the topics at hand, but stop the bickering putdowns, the criticizing of each other, the dick-waving. Everyone knows you have one, put it back in your pants. We asked you to stop yesterday and it continued, as it does today. Stop now.
The Nuclear Waste thread is an excellent example of how you, smart people, can talk about the topic without crapping on each other or the rest of us.

Gents: please take this thread back to Vermont and away from the put-down, bickering, one-upsmanship, and yes, polarizing stuff. Thank you.

We are hearing from too many people (old Zoners) that they don't want to participate here because of this style of posting. We want them here. We want you here, but not like this. 

This is Marlin Perkins saying 'Goodnight" for Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom...

Let's get back to how Vermont is really white, and arguing about chili verde or salsa verde is a luxury that we don't have. 

L O L

 

 

isn't Vermont just the best!??!?!

We are hearing from too many people (old Zoners) that they don't want to participate here because of this style of posting.

 

lol.

^^^

rebel

^^right. 

who gives a fuck. 

this is all phil and the family band's fault!

Greetings rockstar, welcome..  If you have not already noticed, be prepared to be called fake or sock if you speak against certain people here.. Its what they do to keep people away.

For the record, I called him out before he "spoke out against certain people".

 

Your theory kinda falls apart Fog.

 

 

I never saw Jerry. 

Rockstar, after you get run over by Them, Fog will come by and pull out your fingernails with a Leatherman tool.

Everyone was nice to me here.

'sup Gunner.

if people who bitched about others just created their own fucking threads....

oh never mind.

 

sheeples want easy answers and easy threads.

The state of Vermont is obviously a very contentious subject on the Zone.

Way more polarizing than Ohio.

Nedb, you look like a fool.

>>>>>We are hearing from too many people (old Zoners) that they don't want to participate here because of this style of posting.

 

 

Funny how these are the only threads they read and comment about.  You don't have to participate in mudslinging to post here.   

Are we really being tasked with trying to make people who don't want to post here post here?  That's how it reads to me.

<<<We are hearing from too many people (old Zoners) that they don't want to participate here because of this style of posting

 

just anecdotally, I hear from old time zoners who don't want to sign up because of this type of modding.

My GD song ranking thread did some good numbers. That seemed like a thread everybody could enjoy.

Was there something off-putting about that, beyond my ironclad dictatorship over the selections and ranking?

Analogous to the GD shortening song length, playing the 'hits', to appeal to the masses.

You all crack me the fuck up.

This thread said nukes are good.

Thanks for the heads up fog

>>>>>>just anecdotally, I hear from old time zoners who don't want to sign up because of this type of modding.

 

Is there a saying about trying to please everyone?

Oh yeah.  Can't do it.

just anecdotally, I hear from old time zoners who don't want to sign up because of this type of modding.<<<


I've seen some of that, too. Despite sincere efforts to be true to their vision of a message board utopia, it's not all sunshine and farts. IOW What goes over great at a TXR dinner party with your best board buds doesn't necessarily pan out online when moderating a message board. It feels a bit like my granny is reading over my shoulder here, which frankly is not very dbmb, but perfect for a knitting circle. It's cool though, I sure as hell wouldn't want to admin a dbmb. Herding cats is no fun. I'd go on a banning rampage, but some people feel running in circles gets them somewhere, I guess. Good luck with that..

Everybody has their own vision of what they want the board to be, I guess 

I do think it's funny that some folks (apparently) think the extremely small handful of weekly dick measuring threads featuring the usual suspects are enough to ruin their enjoyment of a board that hosts literally hundreds of threads at any given time.

Those folks wouldn't just be rubber necking the big number threads and ignoring the more modest offerings, would they?

I'm not a fan of the Bay Area's professional sports franchises. 

Wahh... Admin admins too much!  Wahhh Admin admins too little!  

Who the fuck are these people??  

If one doesn't care for the "dick measuring threads" (good Zoning there) it's pretty easy to ignore them.

Oh, and I like Vermont.  Rented a cottage on Lake Bomoseen for years.

St Mark, it's a lot better now than it was a few months ago when the .net rejects were spamming every single thread with their whining. The banhammer is magic like that.

 

People who complain rarely start threads or contribute in a meaningful way.

 

If you dont like a thread, skip it...i do..

 

Better yet. Be the change you want. Start nice threads...or guide the thread that way. You can do it....

 

Or just be over it and get all indignant...

Man, fucking Vermont pulling the numbers.  Measure that dick, Ohio.

And we are still 98% white!

Guys. Ohio already feels inadequate because of the Browns.

Let's not gloat.

 

>>>St. Mark, it's a lot better now than it was a few months ago when the .net rejects were spamming every single thread with their whining

 

True that, Dise. I guess I've just always figured there's enough room for everybody on the Zone. I'm not into 80% of the threads here, but that doesn't make me feel marginalized. I just whip out my dick and start my own snarky threads.

>>>For the record, I called him out before he "spoke out against certain people".

 

Your theory kinda falls apart Fog.

 

Not really, he was accused of being fake after his third post or so because he was going against the grain.

 

Hold on, i thought everyone was staying away because of all the foks at .net .banned. They are gone and you mean people still don't like it here ????  This is puzzling indeed.

Is Fafa really banned?

Is Longhair posting under another name?

Where did Dogman go?

Is Eddiefrog really back to posting? Is who I think he is?

>>>>>Hold on, i thought everyone was staying away because of all the foks at .net .banned. They are gone and you mean people still don't like it here ????  This is puzzling indeed.

 

Huh?

 

Can anyone translate?

image_497.jpg.

vermont dick.png

 

Fafa is due back in a few weeks.

Some say yes, some say no.

Gone.

Don't think so.

I foresee another tombstone in the Ice Cream Graveyard.

........0..

Zimage_498.jpg...........

>>I foresee another tombstone in the Ice Cream Graveyard.

Ah, yes. Teeny Tiny Colorado Dick. I'm sure you are right that it's headed to the graveyard.

>i thought everyone was staying away because of all the foks at .net .banned. 

 

lol I wouldn't say all of them...you and grimey are both still here dropping unfunny turds in the proverbial punchbowl when you're not running defense for .net sock puppetry 

Translation correction.

 

Hold on, i thought everyone was staying away because of all the folks at .net . The bad ones are banned now and you old PZ lurkers still don't want to come here ????  This is puzzling indeed.

 

 

St Mark and Sixxy I'm convinced you guys were husband and wife in another lifetime. laugh

Probably, Dise.

I've always felt an almost spiritual connection to Six.

Dise you're just as bad as anyone here with your nasty little insults and personal attacks, you do some quality turd dropping yourself and always have.

Go scrape something off the road, Fo6. 

Go invest in some Rogaine, thank me later.

Thanks Fog.

Lmao @ slipperz thinking he's convinced anyone he's not a completely lame shit disturber here running interference for the .net creepos with his sissified outbursts. Puhlease. You can't hold your own here, that's painfully obvious. 

Lol

Guess the bliss ninnie thing just wasn't a good fit for you, eh Fog?

So lashy!

-1000 karma pts....

Quality work there Dise, typical stuff coming from you. Are you going to suggest admin ban me now and refuse to donate because i'm here, then never donate a cent, LOL BWAhahahahahaaaa !

Come on Mark, that was a thoughtful gesture because i care.

I've dialed my snark way back out of respect for Judit here, but I also told admin I'm going to have a very hard time being respectful to people like fog who insist on being buzzkills 24/7. Maybe people are staying away because they see fog and graivy picking fights all day here but anyone who calls them on it gets the attention of admin. 

Take a comedy class or something if you're constantly going to post here so we have something to laugh at besides YOU.

"Freedom and Unity" is the official motto of the U.S. state of Vermont. The motto was first adopted in 1788 for use on the Great Seal of the Vermont Republic.

 

Freedom and Unity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_and_Unity

Vermont has the largest collection of doilies per capita in the entire world. They are second only to Wisconsin in knick knacks.

 I'm sure you will continue to be your nasty old self whenever you see fit. I'll go for the comedy classes if you try a  lady etiquette class, might be too late for that.

Chunky Monkey = One Of My Favs at the Ice Creams !

i like the hatch valley green chile... <<<<<

 

Me Too as well.

I didn't realize Brigham Young was from Vermont. But now I know!

The grocery stores here sell hatch chilies when they're in season, but my NM friends still mail order theirs. 

Enrollment is open, ladies. Please conduct yourselves properly. Fog likes traditional females that know their place. 

(((lady etiquette)))

Slacker you have no room to talk either with all your obsessive trolling of Nancy.

*gently strokes taxidermied bear paw*

can someone please link to the road kill bear paw thread/post?

Good Squad at almost full strength, pile on boys, yee haa !

>>>Own what you post Squirrel Beard

Says the Triple Perma Banned, Esteemed two time Douchbag of the Year. But you had no part in that right, not like your behavior had anything to do with it. Then you even came back as a racist troll mocking Asians. Speaking of owning what you post.

lol

 

" i would have gifted them away to an elder at the sun dance.

 

"thanks brave warrior foghorne..."

 

Like I said earlier Fo6, I understand why some people don't like me.  It's funny that you can't figure out why people don't like you. 

And Ping Pong never made one racist post.

Fo6, how would one be permanently banned 3 times?  That doesn't make sense.

Why do you always try and attack someone's character instead of what they actually post?

Ping Pong was a great zoner.

We could use his risdom now. 

You were mocking the language, which is racist.

 

>>>That doesn't make sense.

At least you're not trying to defend and deflect the Esteemed Two Time Douchbag of the Year awards..

And its ok for you to attack me, and its not ok for me to attack you back, that doesn't make sense.

 

Vermont is 39th in high-speed internet connectivity.

That seems like deep south low, LCL.

There was nothing racist about Ping Pong, Fog. I always imagined him smiling through his huge buck teeth with a gleam in his slanty eyes when he was posting. He was a beloved member of the community.

Never been to Vermont

Well I never been to Vermont, but I kind of like the music...

for being known as a bicycling culture, i find many asians riding bikes out of tune, alignment and gear. its perplexing...

(((deciduous trees in fall)))

 

heartTracy sent me some yummy (((Maple Cream))) from VT. yes

>>>>>And its ok for you to attack me, and its not ok for me to attack you back, that doesn't make sense.

 

Please quote my post attacking you.

Own what you post, good for the goose, good for the gander.

421 yeah baby!

 

 

 Then you even came back as a racist troll mocking Asians.

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Lol

What a goddamn mess. 

And for the record, I'm unconvinced Timmy has the first clue why I don't like him. But he's awfully earnest at "wasting his time" that's for sure. Dise, you're flat-out lying or living with alternate facts. Cray gonna cray, I guess, but I've never reached out to admins for any reason or run interference for socks. You don't have to like my sense of humor, but I'm fairly certain I'm laughing here way more than you think. Again, you're so very earnest, it's almost charming, until you remember it's over a sclerotic dbmb. 

 

00C79B1F-C95D-4A20-A548-A05D5308B325-3041-0000032F570E0868.jpegOkay gents, back to your corners. I'll need reports from your cut men before round 5.

 

 

Super Dave Osborne's wrecking ball stunt:

https://youtu.be/nADJFmwoUIY

isn't vermont known for another ice cream besides ben and jerry's-CREEMEEs

Last summer I met some tourists who were traversing the state, seeking the best maple creemee.

it seemed like a novel vacation.

Whys this a "bad" thread?

Vermont honestly seems like a really nice state.

I'd like to visit someday.

great thread, china>rider. 

WTF are you kids doing on my lawn over there? Everyone off my lawn now. Fucking hoodlums!

 

^^ I'm eating your cheese, punk.

In honor of this thread, I just bought some fancy raw milk cheese from Vermont. Fuck yeah baybay.

Like all good leftists, Vermont likes living off of other peoples money:

 

The Money Flows North: Vermont's Federal Funding

It's a long list. Federal money flows into Vermont to fund a lot of things that you might or might not use everyday. Highways, libraries, school lunches, law enforcement, and wildlife restoration are just a few programs that are sustained by money from Washington.

Vermont Finance Commissioner Andy Pallito takes us through the balance sheet to get an idea of how dependent Vermont is on the Feds...

http://digital.vpr.net/post/money-flows-north-vermonts-federal-funding#s...

"on the Feds" reading as "taxes people in other states paid".

Yeah Tom. Why don't you take a look at this. Whole bunch of blue states sucking on the tit. Taking everything and giving nothing.  Same as it ever was.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/361668/

 

 

All those liberals in South Carolina are really getting one over on the American taxpayers, eh?

Well, daggummit, now you done it, Thom.  You're not fer real are you?

<<<We are hearing from too many people (old Zoners) that they don't want to participate here because of this style of posting

i'd love to see the pic of keyshawn's high school aged son's killer 1st grade level graham cracker and chocolate bar stonehenge diorama again so please start posting nicely so he feels comfortable enough here to bore the internet again. Thanks for the effort to make this happen, everyone.

>>pyramidheat on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 – 08:34 pm 

great thread, china>rider. <<

Thanks heat, who'd a thunk it.

I want to post something but I can find the right link to paste 

Ender,  to answer your question yes longhair bill does post here.  A few sleuths were able to trace Seadoggie's IP to Robin's computer. 

Busted! 

Graivy is a top tier zoner. 

chileverde-plate.pngViva Chile Verde! Viva! Viva!

A big Thursday morning shout out to my former wife St. Mark. Hi Honey!

I'm giving Thom top marks for his double reverse, end-around troll.

 

What did the girl from Vermont say as she was losing her virginity?

 

Get off me dad, you're crushing my smokes.

lol at Gravy and his Chile Verde.  Nobody ever questioned what chile verde is.

To set the record straight Gravy freaked out at Mark because Chile Colorado has red sauce.  Even though Mark never mentioned Chile Verde, or Chile Colorado.

 

Gravy, go eat a big bowl of Chile Merde.

The secretary shall amend the minutes to reflect upon the record the chili verde recriminations.

However, what's really important to note this morning is that I'm the exception - and I will rule you all someday!

"It’s not just that some states are getting way more in return for their federal tax dollars, but the disproportionate amount of federal aid that some states receive allows them to keep their own taxes artificially low. "

Nope, Timmy. Reading comprehension and Mark's wrong recipe have been the issue all along and it's hilarious to me. But you're not laughing are you, earnest lil boy?

Now go ahead and start listing the reasons you think I don't like you. Telling me to eat shit, has me LOLing at you...(and it's not even a top 10 reason). 

>> Whole bunch of blue states sucking on the tit. 

FUCK YOU PAY ME

Chili Colorado is mighty tasty.

Chili Colorado is mighty tasty.

>>Ender,  to answer your question yes longhair bill does post here.  A few sleuths were able to trace Seadoggie's IP to Robin's computer. 

Busted! 

 

JR, this is a serious accusation.

This is hilarious.

It's as if Grimey doesn't have access to Google.

A simple search would reveal the depth of his errors here.

 

 

What error, Lapdog73?

Are you on the elliptical, Gravy?

>>>>>>> Reading comprehension

 

Yeah like that time you kept saying I had Mom brain despite you being the one mixing up facts.  

Classic Grimey.

 

>>>>>>Now go ahead and start listing the reasons you think I don't like you. Telling me to eat shit, has me LOLing at you...(and it's not even a top 10 reason). 

 

I figured it was mostly because of my sunglasses.

Crikey! This circle jerk still going on? Only posting cuz it was at the top, AGAIN. 

moving on...

So start a thread you like. Shoo fly

So start a thread you like. Shoo fly

If this dish were a piece of music, we’ve added another instrument or two – perhaps a horn or sax, but still no percussion.

http://denvergreenchili.com/the-ultimate-guide-to-great-green-chili/

Not yet, Nedb. 

I think Timmy was lying about having insight into why he may be disliked by some people. That's like two reasons right there for free, Tams. 

Anyone else picturing Agent73 furiously googling right now? Gravy...verde...Zone...colorado

No, Gravy. Nobody else is picturing that. It's just you.

So, i'm this candyfrog guy on that other board 73? Okay if you say so.

Mountain of Lost Left Socks

 

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Chili Verde Gankfest !

Well, now that one of our "monsters" is gone, I'm sure the temperature of the pool is juuuuust riiiight for the flood of "good zoners" on the sidelines to come teeming back in Cocoon style.....cannonballs for all!

 

Let the good times roll.

Who's gone? So many monsters to keep track of these days!

So, on Monday I made 2-3 comments in this thread, pointed at a particular person. The thread then went on for the rest of the week, we'll over 400 more posts. On Friday I got a little hand slap for my work in this thread, for being naughty after Admin's warning and not staying on topic.

So, I came back and checked it out. Other than those few posts on Monday, none of my posts were harsh or trolly. A few were just vapid, but the rest were on topic. I asked Admin for clarification on exactly what my offenses were, other than those few posts that were clear, and why it would come 4 days after those posts. No response.

I'm still scratching my head. 

^you have to think of the old zoners man, those of whom have been relegated to facebook b/c they can't not open a nice thread like VERMONT. 

brewster ridge disc golf course vs the quarries disc golf course-one more fun/better than the other? 

The Brewster River course is newer and very nice. Its rated one of the top 20 in the country, whatever that means.  Its well maintained and located in a beautiful spot next to Smugglers Notch.  I've never heard of the Quarries but the views look impressive. It looks to be a rawer and less refined course, which could be fun too.

 

In regards to VT pizza debate, Piecasso in Stowe has excellent pizza.  Ill drive 45 minutes sometimes to grab it when the notch is closed.

Nice to meet ya at the Cap,  Le Hammer. Hope to see Phil and Sless again!

Jimmz Pizza is pretty good.

Last time we went to Blue Stone, three of us: 3 salads, 2 pizzas and 5 beers

Grand total: $125

Yeah, for pizza and beer!

Sounds like you're on thin ice, bri.

^^^cool, thanks. i'll have to check out both. 

Blow off Blue Stone. It's really pretentious. Seriously, $125 for that meal?

i meant the disc golf courses. 

the restaurants in vermont are horrible. 

well, except for hen of the woods. those guys know how to cook. 

lol, where have you eaten?

>>>Well, now that one of our "monsters" is gone, I'm sure the temperature of the pool is juuuuust riiiight for the flood of "good zoners" on the sidelines to come teeming back in Cocoon style.....cannonballs for all!

 

Thank goodness. I think all 698 of them would already have been posting if it weren't for certain people. 

 

I wanted to post a photo thread of my trip to Shasta, but someone on the Vermont thread said "dark niner".

Lol

I'm a fan of the people who never really post, except to tell others how not to post. Way to lead by example.

I like those posters too, BK.

I'm also a fan of current or former Zoners who talk about what's wrong with the zone (and Zoners) on Facebook, but refuse to add anything of significance here to make a difference. 

That's how you armchair QB this mo'fucker.

What can I do to help?

A bunch of people don't post because it's not moderated enough.

A bunch of people don't post because it's over moderated.

A few of us post regularly, but we are doing it all wrong.

It's a conundrum, Mark, a true conundrum.

Viva la Viva!

I think the right approach is to let the folks who can't demonstrate the will power to simply ignore the threads they don't like dictate the tone, posting style, and content of the entire site. 

It's pretty easy to pick out, too. Any thread with over 40 posts would be one to not open.

Maybe there should be a post limit of 39 per thread. That would work.

http://digital.vpr.net/post/compromise-marijuana-legalization-brewing-mo...

vermont lawmakers are funny. the house is full of incompetence. come on vermont, LEGALIZE already. 

no one wants a cannabis regulatory framework bill under a scott administration, moreover, playing chicken and handing him a convoluted bill that may risk a second scott term is beyond counterintuitive ~ what value is there in obstructing the will of the people over procedural rhetoric? pass the bill in it's original text!

sears and ashe are about to get a earful this weekend...

a legalization "Bill" you say? Hmm, somewhat ironic based on the last couple of posts in this thread. smiley

A second Scott term is a given. Probably at least two more. Don't kid yourself. Vermont re-elects its incumbents like bears shit in the woods. Pretty much always.

^plus dude has a 70% approval rating. 

pretty high:)

A second Scott term is a given. Probably at least two more. Don't kid yourself. 

scott will be challenged by a candidate that's more popular than him. it's not impossible, six, and there will be a fight.

my point is, passing a milquetoast and overly compromised regulatory framework bill risks diminishing that strategy.

Who is more popular than Phil Scott in state politics right now? Please don't say Zuckerman. That trust fund farmer will never be Governor.

 

Meanwhile - nice to see this thread get some real and worthwhile Vermont discussion.

Von Tropps

Game

Set

Match

on another note dead session tonite in stowe  seth yack allover the placelaugh

 

WoooHooooo this Vermont thread might make it to 500 posts :-)

 

(((Heady Topper)))

>>>Meanwhile - nice to see this thread get some real and worthwhile Vermont discussion

Seriously.

Let's talk about dirt roads. Which are your favorite in VT, Sixy?

A couple of years ago I did $700 in damage to my car on a dirt road, and I didn't crash or go off the road. Mud season is no laughing matter.

I suggested a pair of Bean Boots to Six last year to better manage mud season; but apparently those boots are alt right propaganda. Lotta hate in those boots.

It's all about Muck Boots.

>>Let's talk about dirt roads. Which are your favorite in VT, Sixy?

How about the one I live on? That's probably my favorite.

 

And Brian is right - Muck Boots got Bean boots beat by miles in terms of comfort and dryness. Both of them, however, are ugly as shit. However, function, not style, are the hallmarks of the best mud season footwear.

 

That's great, Six. Living the dream by an old dirt road.  

Do you ever look out at that old dirt road and think "Yessir; that dirt road is mah favorite."?

It's not that old a dirt road - it was built in 1989 - so it is relatively young for a dirt road.

I can't say I look out at the dirt road I live on and think about it being my favorite very often - but I do look across the road and say, "My, that is a nice view. I am glad I live here."

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Larger version - easier to see.

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Here's another view of the view. Feeling very lucky to live here.

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That is really nice, Six.

I just forwarded those pics to some Chinese real estate developers. A mega resort would look awesome in front of those mountains.

One slack mind?

>>A mega resort would look awesome in front of those mountains.

True, but that's where Vermont's development laws (ACT 250) protect my view.

No billboards in Vermont either. How about Colorado? You have ugly things like billboards there?

We do, Six. For dispensaries and condos starting in the low $700's, mostly.

We're actually adding a massive billboard that will span the entire front range, literally blocking out the sun on the western horizon. Glorious, isn't it?

That's a shame, but I'm sure everyone in Colorado is too stoned to care.

Just a bunch of burnouts up here, Six.

We hardly even notice the construction and traffic anymore. We're actually selling off the 14ers to various corporate conglomerates as well. 

Haliburton Mountain at Pikes Peak is going to be great once they install the waterslides. 

Is that Camelback in the background No. 6?    Killer view.

Funny, I am sitting in my office right now and looking at a similar view on my wall:

Vermont Painting.jpg

Its an original Dean Fausett landscape that my grandfather had in his office.   That and my law degrees hanging on the wall are my mementos from my time in your beautiful state.   I still have my 20-year-old Vermont cat too, who I found living in a barn in South Royalton when she was just a tiny kitten.

<...who I found living in a barn in South Royalton when she was just a tiny kitten.>>

 

Sounds like someone went to VLS!

Camel's Hump is what it is called.

 

Nice painting. If you ever make it back to Vermont, Ken, we will welcome you with open arms.

"A second Scott term is a given. Probably at least two more. Don't kid yourself. Vermont re-elects its incumbents like bears shit in the woods. Pretty much always."

Good observation the political climate in this State is just horrid. Scott got elected purely because he was a "nice guy" not because he gives two shits about lowering taxes we did not hear squat out of him when he was Scumlin's #2. Having said that I reluctantly voted for the guy because Minter would have been a disaster. He also is insisting on roadside pot testing before he will sign any legalization bill. Guess what Gov. you can stick your road side cheek swap up your ass! This is not to mention all the absolute tools that work in our Legislature most are over 65 and just cant handle comprehending the issues of the day. Spend some time at the Statehouse during hearings you will be mortified at the sheer ignorance. The Rep. in my area is a fool she is about 75 can barley hold a conversation and thinks legalizing a few plants will lead to brain damaged children and prostitution in my town of less than 1000. However its hard to run against someone like that as they are so well known and respected "chairs of the historical society etc" so no one wants to go against them. For example in my corner of VT legalization is very popular in most groups under 65 we finally had a challenger for her seat (he's a Dem!) who favored small scale legalization, school choice, hunters rights and no new gun laws. The gun laws are huge in my neck of the woods. So after all the local squawk about our Rep needing to go the Dem got exactly two crossover votes (my Wife and I). Partisan bullshit god I was pissed. This of course does not touch on the other fucked up things here like winter road care, taxes, seat belts, more taxes, the coming carbon tax, new car inspection bullshit, act 46, bullshit septic rules, modern day slavery perpetuated on our "idyllic" farms (yes Pete Johnson I am thinking of you), Govt. embezzlement (ya it's a huge prob here), then of course there is the fleecing of residents to clean up Champlain that is primarily a result of farm runoff I mean take a drive around the farms and look they spread right to the edge of the rivers what the fuck do they think is gonna happen? Meanwhile prescription drug and heroin deaths rose almost 100% from the year before. I do love this State dearly I have raised my family here but I this is not the Vermont I had grown to love. Rant over.......

hopefully the updated H170 makes it out of the house on wednesday or thursday. i don't think i think does, as it took everything to combat the reefer madness nonsense that is the vermont house, just to pass the previous version of H170. 

its strange, vermont has 100,000 regular cannabis users just about, and yet they are far behind in medical cannabis (failing program) and recreational (on hold b/c of the complete incompetence of Vt state law makers). the state law makers are certainly not representing many vermonters.  amazing. like 700,000 people live in vermont. no voter referendum tho, this state would have had legal cannabis as well and a prosperous medical cannabis program years if they did. 

but if the house passes it this week, and scott vetoes it-well, he may have a hard time getting re-elected. 

either way, VT is dropping the ball on this issue-Mass and Maine gearing up for their legal markets come 2018. 

I dont think a veto would effect his chances in fact I knew full well of his pass the buck and roadside test requirement and I and others voted for him anyways. 

I think h.170 is dead the Senate attached the wording to s.22 a bill on opiate abuse although they changed the rollout date to 2018 instead of 2017. So the house will have to approve s.22 now. My fear though is the added timeframe was only to buy some time before the seed to sale crappola gets passed next jan where they will ban growing any amount. Sears has his eyes on the almighty dollar. If you look back to last years first model it was a coop style deal with unlimited grower licenses who could then sell to the coop who would supply the retailers think cabot cheese. That was how it should be allowing the 1000's of VT growers to come out of the shadows pay taxes and stop hiding. Then of course Sears got ahold of it and wrecked it all for his corporate buddies and lobbyists for MPP.

And now for more BS they passed a new medical law allowing for more dispensaries well hey great right? Wrong unless you already own a dispensary because only they will be allowed to open the new ones four each if my memory is right. Nothing against the current owners but Im gonna call monopoly with the States backing when I see it.

And speaking of LT. Govs in silence wheres LT. Zuckerboy these days he has been pretty quiet?

 

 

I have a coworker with a medical card. It seems a bit stupid. Her card mandates a specific dispensary. She said that they have very limited choices, and you have to go in with a lock-box to put your shit in. Plus, the dispensary smells like a hospital, not a pot shop, which is off-putting.

She has more options and better prices on the black market.

Some law that is.

Bill is not playing Seadoggie. I made sure he was here. It wouldn't be the same without him. 

yes, i agree woobs. the senate fucked up 170, but i can't really blame them-seems like they are dealing w/ a bunch of bitches in the house that have no clue on how to approach cannabis (not that the senate necessarily does, but absolutely more so than the house, and they want to full out legalize, the house is fucking around). stunning really. it's 2017 for christ sakes. but the "compromise" pushing homegrown back to 2018 is just awful. shameful shit.

and the final passage of the S16 medi expansion is indeed allowing ONE new dispensary operator (originally calling for zero new operators)so they finally opened that up a tiny bit, lol. and then once the registry hits 7K total, the state will look at opening another. haha. who writes this shit? fucking hilarious it's so bad. god damn. and  the vermont medical program doesn't even sell medicinal cannabis, rather, it's just garbage for a lot of money. 

Boring thread. 

Wow one new operator how charitable. I hear ya on the garbage for lots of money. Mass for the few dispensaries they have seems to have a good handle on it. Products while expensive are always high quality ya some are more geared to thc but a few are legit medical dispensaries. I have sampled some from the Montpelier one and no fucking way are those labels accurate for cbd or thc. Now go to mass and your guarantied to get what the testing label claims. I have a feeling some mass operators are buying up property close to the VT border it will be just like NH with the fireworks. That's when we can expect the legislature here to actually make a move once they see the dollars flowing over the border.

 

 

(((Act 250)))

Act 250 ugh that's a tough one. In ways I like it but it also goes against my core beliefs about being able to do as you please on your own land as long as your not infringing on others property rights of course. I also get the feeling that sometimes is had the effect of preventing job creation and development when we do need some.

 

 

Not that I have any practical experience with act 250 though.

If Six likes Act 250, then I can only assume it is right and good.

Nobody questions Capt. Vermont on matters concerning Vermont. Nobody.

 

Only in Vermont...

The Republicans were pushing for alternative energy, wind farms.

The Dems opposed it because it was going to fuck up the ridgelines.

You have to love it.

I too have a love hate with Act 250, woobs. It has kept out a lot of shoddy strip malls and sprawl - but it is very anti-libertarian in terms of land owner limitations, and I do have issues with that.

I suppose all the super libertarians have moved to New Hampshire by now anyway. I believe they live in Ayn, NH or something like that.

One thing woobs and I completely agree on is that the Vermont of our childhoods is long gone. Long gone.

The Vermont of the 1960's and early 1970's that I grew up with spending summers and hunting season at my family's camp on Lake Dunmore was a wonderful rural place. So wonderful that I always wanted to move here - and did, finally, 30 years ago.

Nothing lasts forever.

>>>>>Nothing lasts forever except maybe your memories.

 

Even those change.  Every time you remember something it is altered somehow.

https://psychcentral.com/news/2009/01/29/study-confirms-memories-change-...

Damn you, Six, I've been here for only 29 years!

You are correct, Timmy - that's exactly why I edited that out and made it just - nothing lasts forever.

 

What is the significance of Nectar's?

Phish played there a lot, back when they were a free bar band. That's about the only significance of the place.

Local, this is from Wikipedia ...

"A Picture of Nectar is the third official studio album and first on a major-label by American rock band Phish, released on February 18, 1992, through Elektra Records. The album is dedicated to Nector Rorris, the proprietor of Nectar's[1] in Burlington, Vermont, where Phish played their first bar gig followed by a series of monthly three-night stands, saying that the experience "taught us how to play".[2]"

>>>>...and it passes.

But will the governor sign the bill or veto it?  Sounds like he is pretty skeptical.

Law enforcement is salivating over the idea of mouth swab roadside tests. Could very well be a mixed blessing.

And.......FWIW - the VT House and Senate agreed on a compromise bill this afternoon and sent it to the Governor.

Vermont is the first state to have it's legislature put forward a law to make recreational pot use legal.

All the other states that have legalized recreational marijuana have done so by voter referendum.

It's a first step. Could lead to a much more refined action next year.

Will Scott risk a second term and veto it?

My guess is he just might let it become law without signing it.

Does this mean I can throw a plant in my little greenhouse?

^not until july 2018. 

......scott has a decision  to make! i think they should just push the current procedure/enforcements for determining whether the driver is intoxicated. 

but scott gets two picks  for the committee essentially. he should be happy, good amount of influence. 60% want regulated cannabis in VT, dude better let it become law. 

the house and senate then need to vote on the proposed plan next session starting in january.

i like your white cheddar...

gov. scott has until end of wednesday to make a decision; legalization bill delivered to his office:

https://m.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2017/05/18/marijuana-legal...