Warren, on playing with Phil and The Dead
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"Phil Lesh was really looking to play with musicians who didn’t sound like Jerry and could take the music in different directions. The music is very pliable and adaptable and can be interpreted in so many different ways, so that was a really fun and unique challenge in the beginning. When I did the Dead tours, I studied what Jerry had done, but they still wanted me to do it my way. They didn’t want someone to just copy what Jerry had done in the past. And I wouldn’t want to do that. As wonderful as having those kinds of opportunities is, what makes it really special is the ability to be yourself and intertwine with folks you love and respect."
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin
I have huge respect for
I have huge respect for Warren Haynes as a giant of Southern Rock, Lead and Slide Guitarist, as an innovator, band leader, showman and singer.
As a matter of opinion - not fact, I for one was not enamored with his approach to Grateful Dead Music.
Some of his stuff was very good - but most was (to my ears) a blues based, pentatonic scale oriented approach which to me,
stripped away the unique-ness of the melodic voice of this music.
I do love his work w the Mule and Allman Bro's and he's totally appropriate working in those grooves and I hope he has a long
and fruitful career, beyond what he's already achieved.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
^^^^^This.
^^^^^This.
Except I don't like Mule - but he's good in it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
^^ Agree with Treble and Surf
^^ Agree with Treble and Surf ^^
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I agree with Treble, Surf and
I agree with Treble, Surf and Judit
Hi Zeke
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Aye
Aye
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Let's talk about this again
Let's talk about this again
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole
No Warren = No Q
No Warren = No Q
or no clue
have at it
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk
Yes but the one two punch of
Yes but the one two punch of Jimmy and Warren was really special
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
What made him good in the Q
What made him good in the Q was his paring with Jimmy. I thought that the combination of those two made an incredibly effective approach to the music. While what Treblemaker said...
"but most was (to my ears) a blues based, pentatonic scale oriented approach which to me, stripped away the unique-ness of the melodic voice of this music."
is true, IMO Warren did/does more with that basic blues box than anyone else currently playing. His sense of timing is phenomenal and he knows when not to play as much as when to play. Combined with Jimmy's radically different approach it was a lethal combination. There were times when their playing came as close to approximating the ethos of Garcia as any other sound I've heard playing this music. It amazed me that two completely different players whose individual styles had nothing in similar with Garcia could pull this off. Warren covered the blues angle and Jimmy covered the more jazzy angle. Alone, neither one was as good (although I'd take Jimmy's stint in the early Other Ones as his best work without Warren regarding Dead music) but together they had a chemistry that was amazing.
Which is why it was so perplexing that the '05 Dead tour with both of them on board stunk. I think having Bob as a third guitar mucked up their chemistry.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond
No Warren = No Q = No PZ = No
No Warren = No Q = No PZ = No Viva and No resurgence of this scene. The GD would have been nothing but a memory if not for the Q. Weir certainly wasn't cutting it.
Respect
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
Wrong year, "research" dude.
Wrong year, "research" dude.
LOL.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lasher Von Zekenstein
>>>Let's talk about this
>>>Let's talk about this again
I know, but this was in an interview with Warren that I just read, and I thought it interesting to hear Warren's take on it, as opposed to our much discussed opinions. Just throwing it out out there.
Hey Voodoo!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: david birmingham
Warren playing ABB, Clapton,
Warren playing ABB, Clapton, Beatles, Van Morrison with Phil - excellent work
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius
Wow, I was a year off. Glad
Wow, I was a year off. Glad you enjoyed that Mr. Thumb. I can understand why you'd need to find your joy in cheap places these days.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: pumpkin lurker
I really enjoyed the first
I really enjoyed the first PLF tour with Warren and Derek in '99. Then out came Jimmy a year or so later with Jeff Pevar. Just looking at the old setlists at pz.com takes me back, didn't realize I was at the first show with that line up at the oakdale. I really thought Pevar and Jimmy played nicely together. I could never get past Pevar's predisposition for spandex though, and by the fall Jimmy was out of the ABB, and here comes Jimmy and Warren. They sounded too much alike to me originally, and over time to me they changed their sound enough to be able to tell them apart and they really complemented each other. I think Warren is a true chameleon for the most part, but when those tours with him in the the dead (with and without Jimmy) happened it seemed to strip him of some of the ability to change. He could adapt more in the Q, man those were some amazing shoes. And yes Beatles, Clapton, and even a Phish cover.
This was my favorite with Pevar
4/22/00
Phil Lesh And Friends
Beacon Theatre
New York City, NY
(total time: ~3:00)
Set I: Jam> Dark Star (1st v)> *Dancin'> *Dark Star Jam> *Alligator> *Mind Left Body Jam> *Friend on the Devil> *Cumberland
Set II: *Jam> *Do It In The Road>
*Jam> *Dark Star (2nd v)> *Jam> *Eyes> *Space> *Help> *Slipknot> *Franklin's
E: Ripple
The Band: Phil, John Molo (d), Jeff Pevar (g), Jimmy Herring (g), Rob Barraco (k)
*with Branford Marsalis on sax
Then the Q
10/9/00 my first Q
Phil Lesh And Friends
Beacon Theatre
New York, NY
(total time: ~3:00)
Set 1: Jam> *Imagine, Bird Song,
Tenn Jed (RB) Wolfman's Brother>
Cosmic Charlie (all), Watchtower (WH)>
Cold Rain and Snow
Set 2: Shakedown (WH)>
Just a Little Light (WH)> Crazy Fingers (RB)
FOTD (long jam)> Tomorrow Never Knows (WH)> Unbroken Chain> Sunshine of Your Love (WH)> Jam> I Know You Rider
E: Doin' That Rag (RB)
*today John Lennon would've turned 60 :-(
The Band: Phil, John Molo, Warren Haynes (g), Jimmy Herring (g), Rob Barraco (k)
And my favorite Q
11/30/01
Phil Lesh And Friends
Beacon Theater
New York City, NY
(total time: ~3:15)Set 1: Not Fade Away> Jam> *Tears of a Clown (WH)> Black Peter> Jam> Dear Mr. Fantasy> Midnight Train (WH)> Jam> Fire on the Mountain
Set 2: Jam> No More Do I> Eyes of the World> Unbroken Chain> Dark Star V1> *While My Guitar Gently Weeps (WH)> Dark Star Jam> The Eleven> Dark Star V2> Cosmic Charlie E: Box of Rain
*1st time played - sung by Warren
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Billy Shears
Jimmy and Warren worked so
Jimmy and Warren worked so well together because they are both great at improvisation and predicting each others playing. They could finish each other's riffs and turn on a dime, like Jerry.
Keith Richards and Brian Jones called this "the Ancient Art of Weaving".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba
It's almost like making a
It's almost like making a progressive kick ass meal... with a celebration of the different flavors and seasonings each ingredient provides. Very nourishing music!
Considering how many different styles of music the Dead played / wrote over the years, I don't think any one guitarist can do the "Jerry", nor should they! I love Warrens playing, a master of blues / southern rock... when he covered "Hard to handle" with the "Q", it shredded!!! But when it comes to spacey "modal" playing that Jerry was so gifted at, then you almost need a jazz cat to fill those shoes! I love how many jazz players Phil has had come thru his lineup over the years, brilliant idea, and been wonderful to experience how a legend like (Robben Ford, John Scofield, Bill Frisell, etc) interpret the music. (I'd like to see Phil with some Latin players sometime!)
So I loved Warrens playing (but hated it at times too, lol), but loved having him in the band, just so I can opine on the choice of covers, or if it sounded to Allman brothersy...
But those Cap shows rocked (IMHO), loved having Robert Randolph in the band (the horns, etc), looking forward to Phils next move!
(Next? Ensemble with oboe and bassoon? Philgrass? Albert Rockenstein?)