What does it say about the U.S. not grounding 737 MAX's?
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... while much of the rest of the world seems to have taken a much more cautious approach.
Seems to be indicative of how the interests of corporations have taken precedence over that of the public welfare.
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the FAA is investigating.
the FAA is investigating.
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Boeing's stock price is a
Boeing's stock price is a matter of national security?
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More self regulation
More self regulation
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Boeing and Trump are tight.
Boeing and Trump are tight.
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> What does it say about the
> What does it say about the U.S. not grounding 737 MAX's?
It says our government is retarded and has no regard for the safety of it's citizenry. Pilots have been reporting for months that there is a "nose down" problem associated with the auto pilot upon takeoff and Boeing was to release a software fix in January that still has not been released.
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>>>interests of corporations
>>>interests of corporations
have takenalways have taken precedence over that of the public welfareFixed that for you.
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Trump just made a statement.
Trump just made a statement.
His thoughts and prayers go out to the families of Opiate Airlines.
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>>Opiate Airlines
>>Opiate Airlines
”You can take off anytime you like, but you’ll never leave!”
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https://www.msn.com/en-us
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-grounds-737-max-jets-boeing-shares-...
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Jets have been grounded.
Jets have been grounded.
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Embarrassed and infuriated,
Embarrassed and infuriated, president finally caves in after being outdone by Justin Trudeau again.
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Winning
Winning
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American Exceptionalism
American Exceptionalism
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I flew on one yesterday! We
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Man, I just read both the
Man, I just read both the crash reports and it would have sucked to be on either one of those planes. The pilots on the indonesia plane crash were pulling on the wheel/yoke with 100lbs pressure trying to pull the plane up while the electronics were pushing it down.
Trumps NASA pick told congress if people are afraid to fly this plane earlier today, then fly another model. Boeing is taking a beating, losing money. How much did the shutdown have to do with the patch not getting done on time? The man in the white house more concerned about finance than safety and his stupid wall.
On the plus side Bills kicked ass in free agency.
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Trump shut down the
Trump shut down the government to fund his stupid wall and stalled necessary software fix, resulting in the deaths of those aboard the two aircraft that crashed. Airline Safety isn't a priority.
from WSJ
>A software fix to the MCAS flight-control feature by the FAA and Boeing had been expected early in January, but discussions between regulators and the plane maker dragged on, partly over differences of opinion about technical and engineering issues, according to people familiar with the details. Officials from various parts of Boeing and the FAA had differing views about how extensive the fix should be.
U.S. officials have said the federal government’s recent shutdown also halted work on the fix for five weeks.
The FAA concluded the delay was acceptable because its experts agreed with Boeing that there was no imminent safety threat, according to one person briefed on the discussions. The FAA also determined that steps taken after the Lion Air crash to inform pilots world-wide about the system’s operation were adequate to alleviate hazards.
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U.S. officials have said the
U.S. officials have said the federal government’s recent shutdown also halted work on the fix for five weeks.
Ok I admit I'm far from the sharpest tool in the shed, how does the gov't shutdown cause a private company from providing software updates to other private companies?
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Government contracts? No pay,
Government contracts? No pay, no work. and government agencies tasked with approving the work also not staffed.
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^^ gov't contracts between
^^ gov't contracts between Boeing and lets say Southwest ? I don't see the connection. Gov't should not be part of that equation
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So if Apple offers new
So if Apple offers new software to me I have to await government approval before I get it?
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https://www.ethiopianairlines
https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/corporate/group/mro/base-maintenance
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Ok I admit I'm far from the
Because the software fix had to be approved by the FAA before it was implemented on passenger flights.
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Might be the law but I don't
Might be the law but I don't like it
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I realize it's a bit far
I realize it's a bit far fetched, but was considering the possibility (however remote) the plane might be vulnerable to somehow having been hacked.
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If the possibility of grounding an aircraft is based on possible hacking, the feds need to ground all cars with computers that connect to the internet in them as it has been proven that they can be hacked and controlled from outside.
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Benghazie, get some hearings
Benghazie, get some hearings going, this is a scandal. Oh shit, tons of hearings already going on. Nothing but corruption in trumps washington
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If the possibility of
If the possibility of grounding an aircraft is based on possible hacking, the feds need to ground all cars with computers that connect to the internet in them as it has been proven that they can be hacked and controlled from outside<<<
All cars with computers that connect to the internet or all cars that connect to the internet with known exploits / vulnerabilities?
I rented either a new model Toyota Camry or Corolla this past Nov and it was the first time I had driven a vehicle with any sort of "driver assist" technology ... and was definitely not a fan of the "corrective measures" imposed upon the steering wheel. I turned that "feature" off in short order, but now realize the trajectory of more and more control computers are going to have over vehicles in the future. If the computers / network interfaces on vehicles are not secure, it's clearly going to be a major safety issue.
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A Seattle taper buddy is a
A Seattle taper buddy is a Boeing engineer...I wrote him to find out more. He worked on the 777 program for 20 years, never on the 737s...and now he's on a special team developing Boeing's next new plane. It may have been a sensor problem... but he thinks it odd that the pilots didn't know that this feature can be turned off completely. He ended with "Boeing planes are safe, and that we have a greater chance of dying in our cars."
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>>>>....but he thinks it odd
>>>>....but he thinks it odd that the pilots didn’t know this feature can be turned off
this might be one reason:
“Other pilot complaints from the federal database include a report saying it is "unconscionable" that Boeing, the US aviation regulatory agency (the Federal Aviation Administration) and the unnamed airline would have pilots flying without adequate training or sufficient documentation.
The same entry also charges that the flight manual "is inadequate and almost criminally insufficient."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/us/pilot-complaints-boeing-737-max/index....
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>>Man, I just read both the
>>Man, I just read both the crash reports and it would have sucked to be on either one of those planes.
link?
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FBI is investigating. .
FBI is investigating Boeing
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Turns out you had to pay
Turns out you had to pay extra if you wanted the feature where the plane won’t nosedive during take off.
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>FBI is investigating Boeing
>FBI is investigating Boeing
and Trump’s acting secretary of defense who happens to be a former Boeing executive