... of the situation might becoming worse and worse.
If Trump is in fact "compromised" by foreign interests, would you still not want to hedge your bet to insure an infection (if present) is entirely uncovered and sufficiently cleaned out?
Or, is it THAT important to have been "right" and not "flinch" along the way?!?
This should be a no brainer if you're truly concerned about the security and well being of our country.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 10:58 am
Fuck Trump and all the
Fuck Trump and all the deplorables that voted for that fuck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 04:42 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin Treblemaker
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:14 pm
Fuck you, Trump supporters.
Fuck you, Trump supporters.
Fuck you for your willing ignorance, your inability to understand that a fascist is telling you exactly what he wants to do to you.
Fuck you for tearing apart the rule of law, and bringing back the rule of force.
Fuck you for not caring, for believing the easy lies you read instead of using your brain to find the truth.
Fuck you for putting your petty hatreds and squabbles ahead of everything that once made this country great, and fuck you for unwittingly causing it to fall.
Fuck you everyone who refuses to take a stand against this man.
Fuck your inability to understand history.
Fuck your selfish interests that ignore the fact that if one of us isn’t free, none of us is free.
Fuck your willingness to normalize this dictator, your filthy desire for more lucre, your inability to fight for your fellow citizens and everything this country once stood for.
The Founders would be ashamed of you.
Fuck your blind optimism that things will somehow magically turn out okay, fuck your American exceptionalism draped in the corpses of communities of color, fuck your overwhelming ignorance that could be solved if you simply wished to learn and ask ‘why.’
Above all, fuck your cowardice, your self-loathing hypocrisy, your myopic blinders keeping you from identifying the single greatest threat our republic has faced since we took up arms against the British, because if someone other than you suffers, somehow that makes it just fine.
> https://medium.com/@ChrisWarcraft/fuck-you-donald-trump-c644ae3dd94c
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:16 pm
>> fuck your overwhelming
>> fuck your overwhelming ignorance that could be solved if you simply wished to learn and ask ‘why.’
Wow, that's incredibly pompous.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:20 pm
Ender's Mom voted for Trump,
Ender's Mom voted for Trump, this must be hard for him
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:24 pm
My dad too.
I'm confident his presidency is much, much harder on you. I tend to prefer political deadlock.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:29 pm
I dunno, if like you say both
I dunno, if like you say both your Mommy and Daddy voted for Trump, that would suck. or maybe you're cool with their political leanings? Either way, fuck them both.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:35 pm
>> or maybe you're cool with
I'm not responsible for other people's votes Nancy. I didn't vote for Mr. Orange.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin Treblemaker
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:42 pm
Fuck you, Republicans who
Fuck you, Republicans who refuse to disown this bloated leech.
Fuck your cowardice, your disavowal of the solemn duties of your office — keeping this country safe from tyrants and demagogues.
Fuck you for meekly bending the knee in compliance, instead of speaking truth to power.
Fuck you for choosing political expediency over courage, fuck you for sacrificing the poor and the sick, fuck you for dragging our government into a hole from which it may never recover.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:44 pm
Nancy, do Dems want to
Nancy, do Dems want to impeach before midterms or not until 2020?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:50 pm
as soon as they can. hell,
as soon as they can. hell, they don't even need a reason, they just hate him & that's good enough for them. there's that "h" word again, hate. but we're peaceful, all inclusive and respectfully listen to different points of view
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin Treblemaker
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 05:58 pm
Why would Democrats want a
Why would Democrats want a scumbag liar to continue to fuck over the Country, The Planet, Ecology,
The Economy, Immigrant Rights, Human Rights, and the minds of the next generation?
GOP is a corrupt, inept and completely lame party with a bat shit crazy leader, a racist and largely ignorant electorate
and a ridiculous agenda that does nothing but enhance wealth for the wealthy at the expense of the non-wealthy.
AND YES - FUCK YOU FROM ME: AN ANGRY AND UNAPOLOGETIC SAN FRANCISCO LIBERAL.

Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin Treblemaker
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:00 pm
I really do not care what you think of me.
If you believe in Trump and the GOP I want nothing whatsoever to do with you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:02 pm
Never understood what the
Never understood what the Honey Boo Boo crowd saw in Trump to begin with.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:09 pm
hey admin, they're getting
hey admin, they're getting personal in here with their peaceful, all inclusive understanding hypocrisy & bullshit. mr treblemaker has obviously never read any of my posts regarding my lack of support for the current admin OR for the fucking democrats either. signed,UNAFFILIATED.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:15 pm
Look at poor lil snowflake
Look at poor lil snowflake crying to admin
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Painted Mandolin Treblemaker
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:16 pm
Crying tears for you and your
Crying tears for you and your hurt feelings....
Sniff
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:23 pm
“No one ought to, in my view,
“No one ought to, in my view, rush to embrace the most extraordinary remedy that involves the removal of the president from office,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the sober-minded senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:36 pm
nah, i can say FUCK YOU HARD
nah, i can say FUCK YOU HARD 2 or 3 TIMES FROM ME as well anybody.
wonder how all the democrats got rich without backdoor deals or fucking people over? i'm sure they were total saints about it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 06:48 pm
Politicians throwing stones.
Politicians throwing stones.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:13 pm
>> hey admin, they're getting
>> hey admin, they're getting personal in here with their peaceful, all inclusive understanding hypocrisy & bullshit. mr treblemaker has obviously never read any of my posts regarding my lack of support for the current admin OR for the fucking democrats either. signed,UNAFFILIATED.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:20 pm
much butthurt you will feel
much butthurt you will feel when i kick yer ass like the little bitch you are
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:26 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: gypsy tailwind T.O.D.
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:27 pm
Hillman, I'm pretty sure I
Hillman, I'm pretty sure I met you at the Xmas jam with the Allman Bro's with MUTUAL zoner friends...
Let me tell you something homie...
You ain't kicking no one's ass!
Let alone mine!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:32 pm
don't think you have unless
don't think you have unless it was 14 years ago. that was a long time and many beers ago. And no, if the ABB was there, I didn't make that one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:36 pm
Trump is a ridiculous fuckwit
Trump is a ridiculous fuckwit. I'm no fan of the Clintons, but even Bubba at his worst idiocy couldn't act this atrociously in such a brief time span, we're in absurd overtime now with trumpo the clown.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 07:40 pm
i agree. but not in lockstep
i agree. but not in lockstep like the nazicrats like you to be, so you know i don't fit in with the crowd
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 – 10:03 pm
Kinda wish I could re-phrase
Kinda wish I could re-phrase the thread title to:
>>>While all voters are "defending their decision" the potential reality ...<<<
At this point, bickering from either "side" is pointless if the worst is true re: Trump being "compromised". So what if he's more hypocritical or out entirely for himself, most of us know this to one extent or another. What's important is keeping the eye on the ball and flushing out the truth sooner than later; at which point, deal with whatever may or may not present itself and move on. It's going to take a bi-partisan effort & ruffling the feathers of those who might be swayed is not productive, IMO.
As a "negotiator", he strikes me as one to carry out either a bluff or an agenda until the last possible card has been played. And if there is something he's hiding, the longer it goes on, the deeper the hole he might be digging for himself ... at which point he might realize he's in it way too deep and will dig in further. More involved military action as a deflective tool will be appealing to him. If foreign interests do "have something on him", the longer this gets dragged out, the more potential damage can be done on this front too. What if there's something so bad on him that he realizes he could ultimately be executed?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 06:18 am
Perhaps if the DNC didn't
Perhaps if the DNC didn't prop up, as policy, "pied piper" candidates within the opposition, we wouldn't be in this mess. This guy is a monster of their own creation and the DNCs Hubris in thinking they could handily beat him is a huge factor in his sitting in the oval office.
I'm terrified we are focusing on this Clown so much, we won't fix our own party.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 06:35 am
Glad the left has their own
Glad the left has their own seadog.
sweet thread
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jackstraw Fafa
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 07:02 am
The Russia narrative is
The Russia narrative is tiresome and false. Seth Rich has already proven he was the one who leaked the emails and it was the DNC who lost the election. The theatre since the election has been comical.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 07:33 am
Fafa, please comment on the
Fafa, please comment on the level of hypocrisy coming from the Right. Hundreds of millions of dollars, years and countless man-hours were spent on the false narrative of Benghazi. Even after it was proven false, the Right poured in another $70 million.
The Russia thing has yet to be proven false or not. The Right, however, keeps crying foul and whining about how Trump isn't allowed to govern. Thus the hypocrisy, where what was good for the goose is not good for the gander.
And, for what it's worth, 99.9% of the shit about Trump is his own doing. The guy is a mess.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 07:36 am
>Seth Rich has already proven
>Seth Rich has already proven he was the one who leaked the emails and it was the DNC who lost the election. The theatre since the election has been comical.<
Looking for the proof you mention... can't find any.
What I have found is plenty of evidence of contact between Russian officials and members of the Trump team. I have also seen evidence of Trump attempting to obstruct the FBI investigation of Flynn...
You just keep waving your flag, Fafa
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jackstraw Fafa
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 08:12 am
Cute flag, I prefer the old
Cute flag, I prefer the old red one with hammer and sickle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 08:22 am
^I prefer the old red one
^I prefer the old red one with hammer and sickle^
Not surprised, especially given your defense of this criminal and likely treasonous administration.
Where is the proof of the Rich narrative?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:14 am
too funny. that's all i got
too funny. that's all i got for now.
<<<<>>>>>
Perhaps if the DNC didn't prop up, as policy, "pied piper" candidates within the opposition, we wouldn't be in this mess. This guy is a monster of their own creation and the DNCs Hubris in thinking they could handily beat him is a huge factor in his sitting in the oval office.
I'm terrified we are focusing on this Clown so much, we won't fix our own party.
<<<<>>>>
but i agree w/ this. 100%.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:33 am
^Country before party,
^Country before party, pyramid
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:39 am
^correct, which makes the dnc
^correct, which makes the dnc all the much worse.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:46 am
^ As I mentioned during the
^ As I mentioned during the primary, the Democratic party is ripe for a hostile takeover. But now we must deal with the criminal administration currently occupying the White House.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:48 am
^yes, i agree sir.
^yes, i agree, sir.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 09:54 am
“No one ought to, in my view,
“No one ought to, in my view, rush to embrace the most extraordinary remedy that involves the removal of the president from office,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the sober-minded senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:12 am
>The Russia narrative is
>The Russia narrative is tiresome and false
Fafa is as delusional as the Nixon supporters who said the same thing about Watergate investigation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: justdance brightday
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:12 am
http://www.alternet.org
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/rural-america-understanding-isnt-p...
(I realize this article is a slight veer off the track from what you guys are talking about but not quite a derail; I just read that article & it's interesting and somewhat relevant to something, from some other angle)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:19 am
wow, some nutball shit in
wow, some nutball shit in here
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:33 am
can you imagine the exploding
can you imagine the exploding heads if that "muslim obamma" or "crooked hillary" had been at the center of these allegations?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:38 am
i agree. but not in lockstep
>>i agree. but not in lockstep like the nazicrats like you to be, so you know i don't fit in with the crowd
<<
Huh? I have eyes, like everyone else. No nazi lockstep needed, and I'm not a democrat, I registered Independent after the ridiculous DNC primary was over.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:41 am
The Russia narrative is
The Russia narrative is tiresome and false. <<<
Would you (literally) bet your life on this?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 10:59 am
I'm terrified we are focusing
I'm terrified we are focusing on this Clown so much, we won't fix our own party.<<<<
Agreed (although I'm Independent) ... there's a very weird dynamic at play where people are forgetting how they've voted for "the lesser of two evils" & simply want to win political arguments and support their "original choice".
The question that is most telling to me is: "what are the odds of a former first lady" becoming a Senator, SOS, and POTUS ... simply by "chance"?
There are soooooooooooo many qualified individuals who could easily be plucked from academia, business, gov ... that are exceptionally qualified. However, with the giant mousetraps known as DNC or GOP, and "gatekeepers" such as DWS, the deck is clearly stacked. The process needs a paradigm shift to remove the incentive to mass power. There has been very little in the way of admission on this front & I have zero faith it's been rehabilitated to date.
As an Independent who is mostly fiscally conservative and socially liberal, at this point, I'd easily get behind either party that clearly and unquestionably implemented some sort of "double blind" nomination process that scoured our country from coast to coast and from northern to southern borders across all stripes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:10 am
>> However, with the giant
>> However, with the giant mousetraps known as DNC or GOP, and "gatekeepers" such as DWS, the deck is clearly stacked. <<
A) DWS is gone
B) HRC is gone
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:15 am
whack-o-mole
whack-o-mole
... just different names and faces
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:16 am
Fingers crossed, Ned.
Fingers crossed, Ned.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:31 am
I think having HRC out of the
I think having HRC out of the picture resets the deck for the Dems.
The field for potential Dems in 2020 won't gel until after the mid-terms in 2018.
Here's one prediction I was thinking about the other day: Barack Obama will run for Senate after 2020.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:45 am
I think having HRC out of the
I think having HRC out of the picture resets the deck for the Dems <<<
Let's hope so, but it's still a "proprietary system" ... I'd be more comfortable with "open source" at this stage of the game.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:49 am
Please speak English...thx.
Please speak English...thx.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 11:55 am
Something along these lines,
Something along these lines, but it may have been ahead of its time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_Elect
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 12:44 pm
pee pee poo poo cookie crisp
pee pee poo poo cookie crisp in your bum bum
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: charmskooldropout hounder
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 01:38 pm
Fly nails it
Fly nails it
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Brnxeyed (frmrlr)
on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 – 01:40 pm
^ "THIS"
^ "THIS"
Exactly what keeps me coming back to lurk (I just don't have much to say & it literally took me 10 minutes to type this) Viva and the PHILzone !!!!!!
Not sure what Fly means but it sure made me chuckle!!!