So I cutsied up for the Goose live stream last night because I'm going in April. Super talented band. I like that they aren't in a hurry to get there, but I'm going to go into my old man rant now. Was there a decree that I missed that no Jam Bands were allowed to write a hook into their songs after the Dead. Is there a law against repetition. You could sing along to so many Dead songs at your first show by the time they got to the end of the song.
Repeat the same phrase over and over. It's not that hard and people like it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, March 9, 2023 – 09:26 pm
That is one of my biggest
That is one of my biggest gripes about a lot of the new generation jam bands. No song structure, just musical wankery.
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on Thursday, March 9, 2023 – 09:42 pm
...enter Hunter-Garcia &
...enter Hunter-Garcia & Barlow-Weir for starters
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: donster Nod
on Thursday, March 9, 2023 – 11:34 pm
El-Nino/ Ken
El-Nino/ Ken
That was my biggest decision point in deciding on whether to see Phil w/ Goose guy at the Cap next week .... lots of noodling, but no "there"/destination there
Wiser voices on Viva advised me to just go and watch the beauty that is Phil & Molo .... so I'm IN on Sat. Everything else is just garnish or a distraction
On a similar note, saw Marcus King (great) open for Twiddle in Albany a while back. Twiddle Heads were a bit annoyed at us pointing, laughing and shaking our heads at Twiddle for 30 min til we left early.
Great to ride the jam train, but some of us prefer some sort of musical foundation/destination - some rise / some fall to get there or anywhere..... can we float around forever without getting to any sort of a Terrapin Station? ... some get on a jam train and never reach any meaningful destination/lost in the Twiddle zone IMHO
Everyone to their own path....
Waiting for some new player/band to pull the jam band train towards their own Terrapin
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GoneGoodbye RocknRye
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 05:56 am
Musical masturbation is
Musical masturbation is always fun but I do like to shoot my load a few times too!
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on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 08:42 am
If there is no tension there
If there is no tension there can be no release.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Eddie edsh
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 09:19 am
Moving away from songwriting
Moving away from songwriting porn, how often do you walk around singing or humming a Phish song? Deadheads know the importance of the songwriters.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 10:10 am
Where is the soul?
Where is the soul?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 11:21 am
Split open amd melt....mmm...
Split open amd melt....mmm......split open and melt..........
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hello My Name Is Jackohearts
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 11:21 am
Actually Eddie, I couldn't
Actually Eddie, I couldn't get "Lizards" out of my head yesterday, for some reason, and I'm not even that big into Phish.
But generally, yeah, what we forget is that the Dead were actually writing songs they thought might be chart hits. And, while they didn't always get there, "if you aim for the moon you land among the stars", or however that saying goes. They were trying to write catchy songs. Phish actually has a few catchy tunes too, especially in the 1.0 days.
I think a lot of "fusion" in the same way. Great, but no landing spot. Not that I dislike it, but it's a different listening experience, and a different concert experience. I think the best bands mix it up in the right ratio...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 11:32 am
>>>>Dead were actually
>>>>Dead were actually writing songs they thought might be chart hits.
We often listen to the Sirius station "Jam On" while hanging around the house. Good mix, but after a while you notice they tend to play some of the songs over and over, including ones by Ghostlight and Pigeons that have pop sensibilities and catchy hooks and could be a Top 40 hit. If anything, they are Top 40 for the Sirius Jam On Station.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 11:48 am
Well glad I'm not the only
Well glad I'm not the only one. The thing is they don't need to write any songs. There are so many great songs out there already. I mean Jerry made Don't Let Go into a monster jam vehicle that went out there as much as Dark Star on more than one occasion.
I love me some good old Grateful Dead songs but stop covering them. There a million other songs that you can cover. I want a 20 minute version of Life In The Fast Lane into Bennie and the Jets. I might actually get my ass on a plane to see that band.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 12:47 pm
Seems obvious that the band
Immediate red flags to never see a band play if someone thought it was a good idea to name themselves Goose and Twiddle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 01:16 pm
Perhaps it has to do with the
Perhaps it has to do with the organic process of creating music being compromised by an over-reliance on technical gadgets? You still hear hooks in more stripped down contemporary music like Bluegrass, Alternative Country, Folk, Gospel, Blues, and Classic (aka Retro) Soul.
Lots of contemporary Pop music is virtually unlistenable to me. The over-use of the auto-tune program has led to a lack of actual singing. Nuance and subtlety are missing. Double entendre has been forsaken in favor of coarsely explicit content. The lyrical content has become increasingly vapid and materialistic. Songs with a conscience and soulfulness are the exception.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 01:43 pm
There are tons of great
There are tons of great singer song writers out there that aren't pop or at least not trap with heavy auto tune but are also not jam bands. People can still write great songs.
Numpty - Paolo Nutini - 2014
Dirty - grandson - 2020
Hello Hello Hello - Remi Wolf - 2020
Lorde - Solar Power 2021
Olivia Rodrigo - Brutal - 2021
All the Party Girls - KALEO - 2016
Keep Your Head Up - Ben Howard - 2011
Plastic Bags & Magazines - Micatone - 2003
Just a Ride - Jem - 2004
Rock & Roll (Take It Easy) - Ark Live - 2014
Ghengis Kahn - Tim Whybrow - 2016
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on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 05:45 pm
Hopefully, most of you west
Hopefully, most of you west coasters have had a chance to catch Achilles Wheel. They are out of the Grass Valley area and are as solid a band as there is out there right now. Some covers but mostly well written originals with a lot of great jamming and a base to go back to. Catchy tunes. Great musicians/singers. Check em out next time if you haven't already.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 05:49 pm
The hook brings you back
The hook brings you back
Anyone see Poker Face last night? I wonder how many takes that took.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 06:59 pm
i blame trey
i blame trey
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, March 10, 2023 – 07:13 pm
>>>i blame trey
>>>i blame trey
100% agree. It has always felt to me like their songs are attempts to impress their music professors.