Will Jussie Smollett fess up?

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And will the long list of celebrities and politicians who all  too eagerly accepted his obviously questionable story simply because it fit their pre-conceived prejudiced narrative ever apologize for their statements?

I'm not holding my breath. In fact,  I eagerly await the blowback saying that while this specific incident might not have been true it still represents a "greater truth" and thus everything that was said about how this represents America in 2019 is still relevant.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/inde...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jussie-smollett-case-brothers-say-empire-ac...

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/16/sources-brothers-released-bought...

In case you need a refresher as to how quickly everyone jumped on this bandwagon...

https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-watch-media-uncritically-accept-a...

Smollett has done real harm to the fabric of this country by pouring gasoline on the racial fires already burning here, but apparently Ryan Adams' private perversions, despicable as they are, are a bigger deal around here.

 

 

Private perversions?  What the fuck is wrong with you. What Ryan Adams is accused of is far more than a private perversion, you dumb ass. 

Smollett is not the first to fake an attack,  and he won't be the last

And to clarify for Hoover,  Bag O'Shit(Bag O'Dung) is not a nickname,  it is my opinion of the OP.

I wonder what would happen if a president did this....   

 

(cough)

This is one weird tale. Whoa!!

There was a time not long ago when if something like this happened to someone, it would come attached with a healthy amount of shame and not really something you'd promote. With the rise of social media and perhaps other factors, certain individuals now attempt to use it to their advantage. A regular championship of victimhood that can be worn as red badge of courage. Maybe even pick up an extra million followers or two.

And you (yes you!) can also raise your hand in support of these victims to help craft your own digital identity and maybe feel a little better about yourself along the way. This is what politicians and Hollywood celebrities currently have most in common. It's shared ground by the left the right. Disturbing but fascinating.

And there are certainly lines that can be drawn to the Ryan Adams situation. He was mean to me...said my voice wasn't an instrument... I would be more successful if it wasn't for him....I'm a victim...won't you support me? Not to single out Mandy specifically as there are bazillion other case studies. 

To answer the thread subject, I don't think he can confess. The lie was so bizarrely outrageous and then he doubled down big-time with over the top righteous indignation. Great acting but poor attention to casting and script development. How can he do anything but go full Trump at this point and just repeat the lies over the over and over and over. There are dummy sycophants who believe anything that backs up their world view. His best strategy is to just play to those people. 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people were not buying the story right away.  There are too many cameras.

 

>>Smollett has done real harm to the fabric of this country by pouring gasoline on the racial fires already burning here<<

You serious, clark?

 

who is jussie smollett?

>who is jussie smollett?

 

Apparently he’s a (former) actor and likely will be known for orchestrating  a Tawana Brawley stunt.

 

And Thom, this actor had himself beat up, as opposed to MAGA Morons  who literally attack journalists, and use their racism and hate to commit acts of violence - including mass murder.

>>I'm not holding my breath. 

Damn, that sounded like a good reaction to this incredibly important event. Oh well. Once again you can't follow through on what matters most. Weakness.

 Thom, there is much more going on in Chicago concerning gun violence.  At least 530 murders last year and 386 were shootings.

Thom doesn't want to discuss gun violence,

the Russian backed NRA dismantling is happening and MAGA don't want to talk about that.

 

Instead let's talk about the Belarus/Russian bots latest project Jussie Smollett. 

Never heard of this person.

No apologies, just erasure....

Pelosi Deletes Sympathetic Tweet For Jussie Smollett

https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/17/pelosi-deletes-tweet-jussie-smollett/

Air brushing history.  A cynic might actually think that some people would have preferred that a gay black man was mugged.

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B0BF51FC-2E13-45BC-9E08-0F30FFBB0F33.jpegPeople sure do love their re-makes these days 

 

very odd that he’s doubling down on his story, dude seems backed into a corner and is likely to crack anyday.

 

I expect he’ll be checking himself  into rehab or a mental health facility, but he’s still likely to get jail time if the allegations that it was a hoax are proven true. 

 

 

Fuck him for making a mockery of  actual hate crime victims.

>>> Fuck him for making a mockery of actual hate crime victims. <<<

 

Bots are going crazy on this story and fueling it huge.

No apology, just blaming others...

CNN’s Brian Stelter Knocked For Claiming ‘Rush to Judgment’ On Smollett Story Was From ‘Celebrity Press’ and ‘Activists’

“I think it was mostly in the celebrity press and among activists and among Twitter people. I think it was a really careful reporting by news organizations. But it all gets lumped in together at the end of the day,” he said.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cnns-brian-stelter-knocked-for-claiming-...

That's right CNN, you had absolutely nothing to do with pushing a false narrative that just happened to fit nicely into the mindset that you have been actively nurturing for the past three years.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

>That's right CNN, you had absolutely nothing to do with pushing a false narrative that just happened to fit nicely into the mindset that you have been actively nurturing for the past three years.<

 

Sure, Bag O'Dung, it's the media's fault...

 

 

2017 Hate Crime Statistics Released

Report Shows More Departments Reporting Hate Crime Statistics

The number of hate crime incidents reported to the FBI increased about 17 percent in 2017 compared with the previous year, according to the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program’s annual Hate Crime Statistics report, released today.

Law enforcement reported 7,175 hate crimes to UCR in 2017, up from 6,121 in 2016. Although the numbers increased last year, so did the number of law enforcement agencies reporting hate crime data—with approximately 1,000 additional agencies contributing information. The report, Hate Crime Statistics, 2017, includes hate crime information for last year, broken down by location, offenders, bias types, and victims.

 

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2017-hate-crime-statistics-released-111318

 

 

Oh, please elaborate on your belief that video sex chat with a minor is just a "private perversion."

Dude.....Ryan Adams played w Phil a bunch....Phil covered a bunch of his tunes and u r surprised that's getting more coverage on the zone.......Zoner please....

Questions for Those Who Believed Jussie Smollett

Had you ever heard of Jussie Smollett before the alleged January 29 attack?

Do you think it likely that fans of President Trump had?

Smollett has said that his public anti-Trump statements were the likely reason for the attack. Is it really true that he was an especially prominent anti-Trump voice?

Did you think it strange that Smollett or his representatives were, from the beginning, telling TMZ a different story than they told the police? He or his representatives told TMZ the attackers yelled, “This is MAGA country.” This was news to the police.

Related to (4), don’t you think that if Smollett’s supposed attackers had yelled, “This is MAGA country,” he would have told the police in his initial interview with them, right after the alleged assault?

How did Trump-loving racist homophobes know that Smollett would be at a Subway sandwich shop at 2 a.m.? Smollett has said going to the Subway was a spur-of-the-moment decision.

It was extremely cold in Chicago the night of January 29. Assuming Trump-loving racist homophobes wanted to track down and attack Smollett, and maybe knew where he lived, as the shop was close to his apartment, wouldn’t they have waited for more agreeable weather?

How likely do you think it is that attackers would shout, “This is MAGA country” in Chicago, a place that no one thinks is MAGA country?

If Smollett’s supposed attackers did not know he was going to be at that exact spot at that exact moment and would have been willing to attack any random gay and/or black man in Chicago, how difficult would it have been for them to find a gay and/or black man to assault without going to the trouble of a 2 a.m. attack on a frigid night? Couldn’t they have just waited outside a gay bar on a summer night?

Don’t you think for the attackers to have yelled a racist slur as well as a homophobic slur as well as having a bottle of bleach as well as having a noose sounds a bit overdetermined, like bad television writing?

Smollett supposedly received a viciously nasty letter threatening him with lynching a week before the alleged assault. Is it likely that either two separate racist parties wanted to attack him at essentially the same time or else the January 29 attackers would telegraph their intentions with a letter?

Don’t you think it strange that Smollett had a phone with him, yet didn’t call the police on that phone to inform them what had happened and which way his attackers had fled?

Don’t you think it strange that his attackers fled without much harming Smollett or robbing him?

Related to (13), did it not occur to you that the whole alleged attack looked a bit like the criminal equivalent of a press release, meant to send a message rather than accomplish anything?

If you were beaten up, would you somehow remember to pick up your Subway purchase afterward?

If you were subjected to a vicious, racist, homophobic, life-altering attack that included a hint of lynching, would you really leave the rope draped around your neck and calmly walk, not run, home?

Would you then walk past the security desk at your apartment building without telling anyone what had happened?

Would you wait 40 minutes before informing the police what had happened?

Smollett said he kept the rope around his neck to preserve evidence for the police. Yet in the police report filed on the night in question, he was quoted as saying he was reluctant to make a police report at all. Why would he preserve evidence to bolster a report he didn’t intend to make?

Why, as an outspoken gay black man with a long history of casting aspersions on Trump, would he not immediately file a police report about an incident that seemingly confirmed his worst fears?

If you were beating up somebody who was on his phone, would you maybe take the phone away from him so as to eliminate the possibility of a witness overhearing what you were doing?

Have you noticed that alleged Trump-related hate crimes seem to have a tendency to turn out to be fiction?

Did you think it odd that Smollett refused to give police his phone?

Did you think it odd that Smollett didn’t give police his phone records for two weeks, and when he did, they were heavily redacted, as though he might be hiding something?

Chicago reporters on the case began relaying that their sources in the police department were skeptical about Smollett’s claims soon after the alleged assault. Did you not notice?

Did you take away any lessons from Covington?

If not, why?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/jussie-smollett-beating-case-ques...

These were obvious questions that anyone who wasn't already looking for reasons to believe this story would have asked.  But anyone who had asked these questions at the time of the attack, perfectly reasonable questions to ask given the circumstances, would have been accused of being a racist homophobe.  And it wasn't Trump supporters who created that situation.

Lord,  you really believe that this is a huge issue.  

Funny that you have nothing to say about Trump's racist rhetoric .

Nothing to say about the rise in hate crimes (see fbi data from my feb. 12 at 12:52 pm)

I guess such distractions help you rationalize your support of our racist, criminal President.

 

Nobody believes this actor's claims, now that there's evidence that he staged his own attempted lynching, Thom. Again, he only harmed himself, unlike the actual racists, homophobes, KKK and angry white men who do harm and murder others because of their hate. 

So, what do you think about this story? And yeah, I chose to link a FOX NEW article, just for you

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-doug-jones-calls-on-small-alabama-n...

You should choose not to participate in Thom's threads. 

I'm impressed you didn't phrase that in the form of a question.  Sealion learned a new trick!

It is pretty fascinating.

First, to have the desire and thought process to concoct the whole thing. Then to cry croco tears on Good Morning America along with continuing to play the victim against all odds and reasoning. Looney tunes. 

On one hand he's not very smart. On the other hand, he is a master manipulator. For all his railing against Trump, they have a lot in common.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't watch the GMA interview. Must've been an acting performance of a lifetime. And  likely  his final curtain. 

 

>Looney tunes. 


Yeah, I suppose his next stop will be either a drug rehab center or a mental health institution. Might need to find a new lawyer too. 

Reality is hard.....

 

Alyssa Milano Has Meltdown Over Jussie Smollett Possibly Perpetrating Hate Crime Hoax

On Sunday, Milano took to Twitter to voice her amazement that Smollett’s dubious account of the hate crime was potentially bogus.

"If that man staged his own attack he is wrong in so many ways," posted the actress. "No one could be that hurtful? To stage this? Right?"

Milano continued: "To f*** with all of us by playing into our weaknesses & make it even harder for victims to come forward?! No one could choose to be that hurtful? Right?! RIGHT?"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43674/alyssa-milano-has-meltdown-over-jus...

That's a meltdown?

You are truly a tool.

I haven't been following this story closely and had never heard of this guy beforehand but given that hate crimes spiked in America after Trump was elected, there's no reason to doubt his story INITIALLY. Sure it was strange someone would attack him (a Hollywood actor) in the middle of the night and go all KKK in the city of Chicago. This is hardly the first time someone has faked a crime, but it's rare that people do and they are risking a lot in doing so. We also live in a surveillance society and it is easier to catch people when they lie.

The only person who needs to apologize is Smollet himself. Dude just ruined his career and reputation and no doubt his actions will now call into question actual attacks which will no doubt occur in the future in this incredibly fucked up political climate in which we find ourselves, especially in places where the police are less inclined to believe people of color, women and LGBTQ folks.

 

 

 

>>>   Questions for Those Who Believed Jussie Smollett

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/31/trump-condemns-attack-jussie-smollett-1140398

President Donald Trump on Thursday called the attack on “Empire” star Jussie Smollett “horrible,” condemning the assault by individuals who the actor alleged referenced the president’s campaign slogan as they attacked him.

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"It doesn’t get worse, as far as I’m concerned,” Trump said of the attack during an Oval Office exchange with the White House press pool on Thursday.

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I'm sure you were just as upset when Ahsley Todd said said some one carved a B in her face in support of Obama because  she was a Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax

 

Didn't it happen around 2am when it was 10 degrees in Chicago?

Ive seen some shit floated around about....

21 Savage on a late night show speaking out about Trump, ICE.

Deported

Jussie doing the blue ink shuffle for us now.

 

Entertainers/Actors/Musicians get your ducks in a row because the Trump ain't going down without a fight.

Hey Thom, this guy seems to pose  a bigger threat than the actor, don’t ya think?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/coast-guard-christopher-hasson-ter...

^^^^

That doesn't fit Thom's narrative to cut and paste articles from the (laugh) national review....

Is this what the OP is referring to when he blames the media for "nurturing a mindset?"

 

 

Publisher Of An Alabama Newspaper Calls For The KKK To 'Clean Out' Washington

 

"If we could get the Klan to go up there and clean out D.C., we'd all been better off," he said. "We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them," Sutton added...

 

Sutton wrote that "Democrats in the Republican Party and Democrats" were hatching a plot to raise taxes in Alabama. "People who do not understand the constitution do not like to be responsible."

He said a "so what" attitude among Democrats led the Unites States into its biggest wars. "Seems like the Klan would be welcome to raid the gated communities up there," he wrote

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/695903336/publisher-of-an-alabama-newspap...

Smollett getting more media attention then a domestic terrorist attempt by a lieutenant in the Coast Guard.

We wouldn't even of know about it if it wasn't for a program of extremism at George Washington university with

the help of former USGovt intel officer Seamus Hughes who found it in court records.

How much time should he get for what he did to MAGA? 

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A26B542D-6BE1-4CA1-B0CC-C52CC64BDC15.jpegThe coast guard MAGA guy just got busted yesterday, it’s pretty prominent on the news aggregation site I like 

 

 

Hippie chicks rule.

>>>>Hippie chicks rule.

AWWW YEAH they do!!! *eiffel tower high-five* 

Eddie Johnson is my new hero......

 

“The accusation within this phony attack received national attention for weeks,” Johnson told reporters during a press conference. “Celebrities, news commentators and even presidential candidates weighed in on something that was choreographed by an actor. This announcement today recognized that ‘Empire’ actor Jussie Smollett took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career,”

“I am left hanging my head asking ‘why?’ Why would anyone — especially an African American man — use the symbolism of a noose to make false accusation,” Johnson added. “Bogus police reports cause real harm. They do harm to every legitimate victim who is in need of support by police and investigators as well as the citizens of this city … I’m offended by what happened and I am also angry.”

https://www.thewrap.com/chicago-police-commissioner-calls-out-media-star...

The question is why those "“celebrities, news commentators and even presidential candidates " were so eager to buy an obviously dubious accusation.  And the answer is painfully obvious.

By the way.  What ever happened to Ralph Northam and Justin Fairfax? (Cue crickets chirping).   It's amazing how quickly these incidents disappear when there's a Democrat involved.

>The question is why those "“celebrities, news commentators and even presidential candidates " were so eager to buy an obviously dubious accusation.  And the answer is painfully obvious.<

 

Because the number of hate crimes has increased each of the last three years?

 

Did you hear about that guy Hasson?

Do you blame the media for him as well?

"Way to completely piss off Chicago, Jussie. While you’re at it, eat your hotdog with ketchup or request Betty Loren Maltese as the Grand Marshall for the St. Patty’s Day Parade. Maybe ask Drew Peterson to guest star on Empire. Geez dude, Chicago has enough to deal with like actual gun violence, not just a part they act out on tv!!!!!!!"

- M.  Dean

Trump will always be your hero...bud....and the Clintons your villain.....why else would you continually support a Russian garbage can......

it’s too bad no one showed him that poster a couple of weeks ago he could have avoided this whole mess

And the answer is....

of course not.

 

Jussie Smollett “Feels Betrayed” After $100K Bail Hearing; Says He’s Innocent

“Mr. Smollet is a young man of impeccable character and integrity who fiercely and solemnly maintains his innocence and feels betrayed by a system that apparently wants to skip due process and proceed directly to sentencing,” read a statement sent out late Thursday on behalf of the Empire actor.

“Today we witnessed an organized law enforcement spectacle that has no place in the American legal system,” the hyperbolic statement added. “The presumption of innocence, a bedrock in the search for justice, was trampled upon at the expense of Mr. Smollett and notably, on the eve of a Mayoral election,” it also noted, tossing more political edge into an already sharply political affair.

https://deadline.com/2019/02/jussie-smollett-response-innocent-laywers-s...

Which makes perfect sense of course.  Why wouldn't he double down?  Jussie might be venal but he isn't stupid and he's betting that it's more important for the media  to keep the "Trump is creating hate" meme alive than it is to hold this person of " impeccable character and integrity" to account for his actions which, even if false in this particular case, reflect the "greater truth" of "life in America in 2019."

And he knows that there will be plenty of people that will back him up.  We're already seeing the media finding excuses for their part in all of this...

“There’s not really a spirit of regret about the Jussie interview,” insisted one GMA source. "Timing made it bad optics but who could have seen any of this coming as we see it today?”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/jussie-smollett-robin-rob...

Who indeed?  Maybe just about anyone who wasn't pre-disposed to accept the idea that this had to be true because Donald Trump is President.  Some stories are too good to check.

As I've said a million time, you don't have to be a fan of Trump to see what's going on here.  But hating the mans guts will probably keep you from seeing it.

The real question is will Trump, other Republicans. or the sweater vested Bag O'Dung acknowledge that a white supremacist,  Trump supporter was arrested with multiple firearms, ammunition, and a hit list of Democrats and of Trump's critics in the media?

 

Probably not.

Ironically he thought he deserved more money for his acting.  Hopefully now he realizes, it's just not that good.   

I'm always fascinated by people who are caught red handed yet continue to attack others and claim their innocence. Normal people become shamed and throw up their hands. Socio's double down and become irate that their lies aren't being accepted. 

If anything good comes out of this, at least that big phony Kamala Harris is exposed. 

 

Ironically Thom plays on manipulating opinions about racist themes to further his/trumps agenda every day...mirroring jussie

 

^As I've said before, he has zero self awareness 

Tatters I agree that the it's amazing how people believe f they keep on lying it will all go away.  It's obviously worked for them in the past so they will keep on doing it.  

^Seems to work for Trump. Well, as least with Republicans. 

But, but, but it's snowing Los Angeles....

What a sad situation we're in when a 12 year old Swedish schoolgirl has more credibility than the POTUS.

Dump Trump now, we need a leader, not a charlatan.

'Bad Optics'   lol. 

there has not been a current event yet that has played so much into both my desire for actual social justice, and my distaste for modern intersectional "SJW" philosophy.

its so, so delicious. the interviews he gave about the "attack" before all this came to light is prime cringe material, some of the best to ever grace the internet.

 

>By the way.  What ever happened to Ralph Northam and Justin Fairfax? (Cue crickets chirping).   It's amazing how quickly these incidents disappear when there's a Democrat involved.<

 

Here you have a valid point.  All three should go,  but they know that they cannot be pushed out.  I doubt they will run for reelection 

I laugh at all the right wing people who are acting like there was something wrong or fishy in believing the guy when he first reported the crime and said "Wow, that's terrible!", you know like President Trump said.  

The way I see it there are two ways to play it at this point.  One is to go to his grave proclaiming his innocence to that very small segment of people who will believe that this is all a Big White Media Conspiracy.  Or, he can go on The View and confess that he suffered from mental health and substance abuse conditions but he went to rehab and has now dedicated his life to God so everyone should forgive him and buy his album.  Time will tell I guess.  

It's hard to imagine how someone could be such an asshole AND such an idiot.

>that big phony Kamala Harris is exposed.

 

 

for what?

 

and she’s a far superior person and candidate than Trump or anyone in the GOP. don’t be a fool.

 

>The way I see it there are two ways to play it at this point.  One is to go to his grave proclaiming his innocence to that very small segment of people who will believe that this is all a Big White Media Conspiracy.  Or, he can go on The View and confess that he suffered from mental health and substance abuse conditions but he went to rehab and has now dedicated his life to God so everyone should forgive him and buy his album.  Time will tell I guess.  

 

Yes. I see RA doing that too

I thought he was an actor. He has an album coming out too? 

He is also a singer.  He played a concert soon after the "incident", after correcting his status from "cracked rib" to "bruised rib".  

 When I first heard of the account I thought “how is he alive after being attacked by two people, and with a new noose around  his neck “ . I admit though that I didn’t initially  doubt the attack happened and felt more relief that he survived..and yet it didn’t make sense. With all of the MAGA white Supremacists and a rise in hate crimes, it was easy to  believe that 2 MAGA racists would Lynch a gay black man. This particular incident should have been viewed with more skepticism from the get go, by us all -  but we’re in such a polarized time  that it just seemed, unfortunately, all to easy to believe the story. and then an actual MAGA terrorist with a hit list straight from Trump’s mouth is discovered with a cache of weapons. 

All 16 charges dropped and record of it wiped clean and court records immediately sealed.

 

Thom?

Charges against ‘Empire’ actor Jussie Smollett dropped, his attorney says

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/03/26/charges-aga...

congratulations, they found a way to make this situation even more confusing.

TOD, your link is hidden behind a paywall.

Not really sure why it's confusing, a major domestic (white male) US Terrorist was apprehend at the time.

In the era of Trump, helluva a lot easier to make a huge spectacle and bash a black, gay man who happens to be an actor,

than have to deal with the white male domestic Terrorist attempt on his watch.

Weird, I don't pay for WAPO, anyways it's everywhere, pick a source.

It's a thodspiracy!

Why don't you fuck off you lil twerp.

FU.  OP

Go Kill kill a democrat for Jesus or the storm troopers or whoever it is you pledge allegiance to

He did community service, forfeited his bond and the case is now sealed.

LOL

 

I did think that 16 felony charges seemed a bit excessive, but was not expecting this.  However, it is so rare that people get charged for making false police reports I guess I shouldn't be surprised.  I'm still OK with him being fried in the court of public opinion.  That said, I think it is pretty common to accept at face value when someone claims they were victims of a crime.  It's on him, not the people who believed or reported his allegations.

Only cost him $100,000

Ok drop the charges or a small slap on the wrist.. but he shouldn’t be able to come out and claim he is totally innocent 

you decide who I’m talking about lol

>>Only cost him $100,000

I'm reading $10K most places. I'd pay that to have 16 felony charges go away. I bet his lawyer bills are bigger.

I think he lost his role in the TV show he was on too

I guess it's 10% of the 100,000 bond  the city's keeping?

I haven’t heard he lost his role only that he won’t appear in the last 3 episodes this season. My guess is the studio / entertainment conglomerate he works for is exactly who arranged this deal. From what I understand his character is central to the shows plot ??