Will right wing media personalities "rebound" if the worst is true?
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Seems to me, "people" like Hannity, Rush, Mark Levin, etc. have been thoroughly entrenched in the partisan spin and if reason were to "win out" at the end of the day, they might be digging enormous holes for themselves if the worst eventually comes to light.
Yet, I don't think it'll happen. There'll be another spin on the spin; even if a clear web of lies, deceit, and perhaps even treasonous activity is irrefutably exposed, I suspect they will simply continue to spin without any apparent recourse.
Personally, I will ALWAYS favor 1st Amendment rights trumping just about any other consideration whenever and wherever possible; however, I would not be opposed to going back "through the record" and identifying any libelous or defamatory statements and throwing the book at them. Certainly not suggesting going on a witch hunt, but rather to hold people accountable who've been whipping up populist sentiment with false claims and accusations.
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John McCain rebounded from
John McCain rebounded from the Keating 5 and ended up running for president. People have a short memory.
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what's the worst?
what's the worst?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish
19.5, I would find it hard to
19.5, I would find it hard to believe egos like that are capable of eating any humble pie.
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They won't have to rebound.
They won't have to rebound. Their listeners don't care about what's true.
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>>They won't have to rebound.
>>They won't have to rebound. Their listeners don't care about what's true.
fucking deplorables
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
I am sure that many of those
I am sure that many of those who turtle mentioned are hitting up the big Cabela's sale this weekend.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
19.5, I would find it hard to
19.5, I would find it hard to believe egos like that are capable of eating any humble pie<<<
While they certianly have giant egos, I suspect they're also good business people and will do what it takes to protect their own interests down the road.
What I find interesting is that how elected officials are being cautious not to place all of their eggs in one basket at the moment until they find out with greater certainty which way the wind is blowing; however, it seems media "personalities" don't have to follow the same cautionary measures at the moment and can keep on blazing full steam ahead and even wratcheting things up quite a bit more. I suppose they run the risk of advertisors dropping them, but I suspect their current clientele are already "accustomed" to the sort of rhetoric they spew regularly and some might even route for greater amplification of similar "messages". Cabelas might be a good example.
On one hand, there's at least one line of defense re: halting nonsense from elected officials, but unfortunately there seems to be very little accountability with respect to reigning in media that has pushed beyond reasonable limits. Not sure how to counter this?
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Ok that cartoon is humorous.
Ok that cartoon is humorous.
And, yea, the true "sheeple" are all in on the right wing express
The thinkers are the snowflakes.
Do'h thinkers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
Perhaps the court system is
Perhaps the court system is too slow for asymmetrical warfare?
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Is it too slow, or too
Is it too slow, or too politicized?
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It still amazes me that
It still amazes me that people don't realize that the Joe Rogans and Rush Limbaughs of this world are not impartial journalists or "just your average guy," but highly paid entertainer/actors employing a carefully crafted script intended to increase ratings and thereby enrich themselves, their guests, and their advertisers. Hucksters selling cultural anger, "secrets," (and often health supplements) instead of detergent. Their act is "authenticity." And they are good at it.
Cloaking their shtick in "let me tell you the real story" still ensnares the curious who need to make sense of the chaos all around us. Everyone loves an interesting tale. Info-tainment sells. Especially if you've never been academically educated or read history -- the conventional ways to learn about the world.
I have a brother in law that buys into Joe Rogan's True American Tough Guy bullshit of a regular dude in a hoodie sitting alone in his basement just talking to interesting characters he ran across. He never knew the guy is a 5" 8" 150 lb college dropout stand up comedian / reality tv game show host that parlayed his talents behind a microphone and his Hollywood connections into being a CEO of several multi-milllion dollar businesses that make a lot of money by having sponsors pay to appear on his very popular podcast. It's not just some random guy with a book about UFOs -- it's often a publishing company paying Rogan to place their client on a show to reach a specific audience to sell more books. Same old snake oil -- wrapped in 21st century technology.
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I don't think we've been
I don't think we've been watching the same show.. everyone knows trump did it... all of it... they don't care !!! Biden should come out and say if he loses that Kamala will not certify and they will have an alternate set of electors. If everything Trump did was legal than that should be legal for Joe Biden right???
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>>>"let me tell you the real
>>>"let me tell you the real story" still ensnares the curious who need to make sense of the chaos all around us.
We have a sickness of contrarianism. People think that holding views different from the "mainstream" makes them smart and the harder you go against the mainstream the smarter you are. Antivaxers took a truth that the medical industry and the pharmaceutical companies don't have your best interest in mind and are just in for the money and built it into an insane theory that vaccines are a hoax. Pharmaceutical companies are interested in lifetime conditions that can be treated but not cured with their drugs. A once every ten year shot or even a once a year shot does not fit that description.
>>>Biden should come out and say if he loses that Kamala will not certify
The problem is liberals have morals and he would lose votes if he said that. The supposed voices of the left NPR and NYT would run endless articles about how horrible Biden is for doing that. Meanwhile Fox promotes whatever Trump says even to the point of having to payout multi million dollar settlements for lying to protect Trump
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Is it too slow, or too
Is it too slow, or too politicized?<<<
I suspect it's both to one extent or another, but the big question I have is why isn't there a "fast track" for this sort of thing?
I suppose it only takes one bad apple in the "right place" to gum up the works, but I think even this needs to be taken into account in so far as review from above (or the same level) in a codified reform measure of judicial proceedings pertaining to government employees and matters of corruption.
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FOM - On a semi-related (non
FOM - On a semi-related (non-political) note, when I worked for the Federal Government, I noticed that since they couldn't really fire "bad apples" (unless they did something really bad), they frequently pulled the "knight move." That is, they moved the offender "sideways" into another, often unrelated, department and then "up" (i.e., instigated a promotion to buy compliance). So that everything was just brushed under the rug. This is how a software developer team lead with zero legal training can instantly become a branch chief in the Legal Department.
When I worked there the bad apples were typically department heads who slept with married staff, known substance abusers or chronic troublemakers who no one wanted on their team. These folks seldom made it to top positions because everyone knew the juicy gossip about them, but they did bounce around middle management forever.
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Alan, perhaps there's a
Alan, perhaps there's a science as to where in the "bunch" a bad apple can cause the most spoilage?