ZOTY 2020

Terrible nomination. 

And he fits in with the profile of past ZOTY winners.

>  Bry is a high impact kind of dude<

Not enough variety with his posts.

Nobody will check out his links

He pisses into the wind, but the gaslight burns strong

I nominate* Daylight for his thoughtful contributions on a variety of subjects.

*Never nominated anyone for a fictitious award before, I am following correct protocol?

You are doing just exactly perfect, dude. Protocol is loose.

Thanks, six.

I'll take a crack at another. 

I nominate Javs for ZONY foreign correspondent. The pickings are slim here, it's been a quiet year for the expat and foreign zone crew. 

>His(Daylight) political posts, though, I find to be kind of wind pissing<

Compared to gaslighter? I may not agree with Daylight's political commentary, but at least his posts are original and he thoughtfully defends his positions.

Gaslighter just posts ridiculous bullshit, and then tries to claim the moral and the intellectual high ground

> Bry for the award

Pfft. That Russian troll bot already gets way more attention than he deserves.

Has there ever been a female ZOTY?

>>>>>Has there ever been a female ZOTY?

RRG

daylight gets my vote, always a fun ride...

honorable mention, lance

retirement has seemed to give him an edge not seen before

post of the year, crabneesh

https://www.vivalazone.org/comment/282175#comment-282175

Timpane gets my vote

hahhaha 

i think my being nominated for ZOTY is the clearest and most irrefutable evidence for the zones imminent decline we've seen yet

^Look at that, Ladies and gentlemen, more strong work from daylight. A sort of loose variation on the old Groucho quote. Great job, daylight, but save some for your acceptance speech.  BTW, now that Brayin' has been nominated, I wouldn't expect him to concede. 

Shortest Daylight post ever?

He gets my vote as well. He converses well on a variety of topics and he doesn't only use links to support his opinions, he also makes good, rational arguments.

And his food/restaurant posts are the best. He can food-snob with the best of 'em, but he also supports a good greasy burger.

It's a little early in the year, but I'll go into the Vault and start polishing them off. Some of them are still little sticky from last year's debauchery. I think some hand sanitizer will give them a nice bright sheen.

I seem to remember I gave a few to Jill at the start of the pandemic so she could melt them down and cash them in for TXR payroll. But there's still a few left.

I would nominate BK but his terrible zoning is so self evident here in this failed and premature ZOTY thread which will have to be saved by more experienced zoners.

I'd like to nominate Mr Timpane's broken phone for bringing so much hilarity to the zone this year.

I should like to nominate mike edwards or Manfred for copy and paster of the year. Some real talent copying random shit on the internet and bringing it to the zone.

After giving this some thought, which differs from my usual, impulsive posting style, I'd like to jointly nominate Alan R StoneSculptor and Druba Noodler because of all the entertainment they bring to the zone.

Is it really "opining" though, BK? It plays much more like bloviating on my end.

Mike - I don't think I'm eligible as I'm already on the clean up committee, making me an official of sorts --  I have an assistant-facility-manager-trainee badge around here somewhere. (And no matter what they say, the women's bathrooms are the messiest after an awards ceremony. They got them posh sofas in there and they still trash the place.)

I'm honored to be considered in the same league as Noodler, as he also likes rocks and amusing pictures, but his weather forecasting puts him in the top tier.

And it is mighty early -- Bryen could still reveal his true identity; Daylight could still publish his neuro-psycho-biochem PHD thesis; hell, Gregulator could even make a surprise appearance. Being an election year, maybe the Pointless Political Argument guys deserve it. 

Stay tuned.

I'm honored to be nominated by Mike.  We're currently forming an exploratory committee and are in need of:  a procurement officer, lighter squad, paraphanailedya engineers, sugar magnolia sufi dancers, a drummer who's on time (if ya know what I mean), and of course, cream cheese cucumber sandwich / cabbage soup technicians should this thing ever hit the road.

Thanks again for you generous consideration in this matter!  

(Please donate to our PAC;  Crayons for the bry guy)

 Daylight could still publish his neuro-psycho-biochem PHD thesis;

im actually not going to do anything but talk shit and post stupid threads nobody reads about strains of politics nobody cares about, and then when another zoner wins by a clear margin im gonna post like 20 threads a day about how the zonies are all a big fraud and the zone democrats stole the election from me because i refused to play ball and support joe biden

I WON ZOTY, BY ALOT!!!!!

man-date

>>>>>>> I'd like to jointly nominate Alan R StoneSculptor and Druba Noodler because of all the entertainment they bring to the zone.

Had the same thought but I barely keep track of whose posting so I couldn't remember their handles

>>>>>>> I'd like to jointly nominate Alan R StoneSculptor and Druba Noodler because of all the entertainment they bring to the zone.

Had the same thought but I barely keep track of whose posting so I couldn't remember their handles

BKs jokes are reminiscent of Woody Allen's at the end of his career; stale, decrepit and has eaten one too many hot dogs. He also looks like he smells of body odor. 

whaddya know about woody?

zonies on the line, think

My nomination goes to the Switzerlandishiest zoner on this site. The most underrated member.

Face on Mars

> stale, decrepit and has eaten one too many hot dogs.

Oh, snap. A hot dog burn. That's gonna leave grill marks.

>>>maybe the Pointless Political Argument guys deserve it<<<

I was going to throw out a nomination for Javs on that basis.

I don't read much of that stuff, it's always the same folks endlessly arguing the same argument; they remind me of the Frank Gorshin character on that Star Trek episode, fighting himself endlessly into eternity (yes Timpane, I'm one of those sad old boomers who remembers Star Trek) but it seems that Javs has made some strong posts lately and has stirred that drink pretty well.

And he not only writes well, but he's verbose as well, which is close to my heart.

I nominate Mr. Timpy for this year's Derpy award.

<<<<{{{{~~~ Donut Boys for Biden~~~}}}}>>>>>

Don't give it to that useless paste-eater.

Timpane, your Biden and neo-liberal attacks fall flat and just don't have the bite they used to considering you voted for him. 

just came in to say left policy is the most popular in the country. 

^So popular that the state of California voted to exempt companies like lyft and uber from labor laws.

And they also voted to maintain the ban on affirmative action with regards to admissions in higher education. 

> Don't give it to that useless paste-eater.

Which useless paste-eater?

Biden Jokes>>
 

They are still funnier than Bks humor. 

Racism can't end with affirmative action policies.  
"exempt companies from labor laws". More like, allowing workers to stay independent contractors and not cave to unions.

<<<>>>>A couple of policies absolutely are the most popular.

yeah, staying alive and healthy are the most popular. 

Racket, other companies which employee a comparable number of people aren't subject to labor laws and regulations, to which lyft and uber are exempt?

Also, affirmative action enjoys more support from folks on the left, no?

Cave to Unions? Damn those unions for making constitutions which give bargaining rights for workers to have careers, living wages, health benefits, retirement annuities and pensions. 
 

There's a union that Puerto Rico is about to cave to made up of fifty states: Damn Puerto Rican's caving to unions and shit

Lumber are you drunk?

What are you saying?

you think your witty timpane?  Keep trying.

I'm pointing out that you have no clue about the importance of unions and probably don't even realize you live in a state that's part of one.

Is being a driver for Lyft, Uber or Doordash really a "career"?

^ If they unionize then yes it could be a career. Right now it is just a job.

If you don't like the terms of employment, it's your choice to not continue working there.  Seems the majority agreed.

California fucked up just like they have done over and over again. Giving companies exemption from labor laws is a big loss for every union and non union workers all across the country. 

It is exemption by choice.  Choice is a great thing.  Should realtors be employees?  How about free lance photographers and writers?  Barbers?  Hairstylists?  Some people choose to be in business for themselves.  If you don't like it go punch a clock at the coal mine.

Racket, uber and lyft are exempt from California laws  to which other large employers must adhere.  This is because they classify their employees as subcontractors. I know a small business owner in Connecticut who got wacked for taxes and penalties for doing the same. The original affirmative action comment was in response to pyramid's statement regarding the popularity of left wing policies. So I ask you, would you say that affirmative action, which was rejected by California voters, is more of a left wing policy or right wing policy? 

Racket, the difference between the local barber, or freelance photographer and uber, lyft. Etc is the size of the company.  Many small businesses are exempt from laws which apply to larger companies. 

They have less choices working for those companies now and will ultimately see less money in their pockets for their time working while the companies reep all the benefits of not paying full salaries/health benefits/ retirement and matching SS and Medicare for their drivers.  Anyways, the workers will realize that soon enough when they get hit with SE tax next year and will have literally zero terms to bargain with. 

Mike, the paste-eater to whom I was referring is "Bryen".

Sorry for the poor zoning.

Others actually contribute, he just sprays verbal diarrhea all over the place.

Giving companies exemption from labor laws is a big loss for every union and non union workers all across the country.

it would be nice if we could get some extra rights and protections for independent contractors without the full amount that is given to employees...for instance, we have seasonal trimming positions on our cannabis farm which do not fall under independent contractor status...the position is, by definition, seasonal, and the culture has always been jobs in the fall that end around xmas...but now that we are doing things above the board, if we employed a trimmer for to long, they would be eligible for unemployment, and their claiming unemployment will raise our unemployment insurance...so they would be able to get a paycheck at our expense and at taxpayer expense that IMO they have absolutely no right to and should have no expectation of getting...trimming is a seasonal job, typically done by traveling kids, wooks, and anyone else who needs to make good money in a short period of time and then move on, no expectation of permanent work is implicit in the most basic job description.

so now for our "on the books" trimmers, they have a limit for how long they can be employed with us. they are not getting any unemployment, they just have a time limit on how long they can work for us that they otherwise would not have had if we had less onerous labor regulations or the ability to class them as independent contractors...so while in theory its nice that seasonal farm workers have the benefit of collecting UI, in practice they are potentially losing out on weeks of additional work and paychecks that  would qualify them to receive UI.

AFAIK uber and lyft drivers very very clearly qualify as independent contractors...mainly because they can work where and when they want and dont have a supervisor. it would be great if longtime lyft drivers could qualify for UI, and of course i would like everyone to get a living wage, but it seems like there would be a very strange murky area with regards to benefits like health insurance or retirement benefits...some lyft and uber drivers only drive every once in awhile for supplemental income, some drivers could drive full time for awhile, and then due to the company's structure, they could start driving only a few times a week without any oversight from a supervisor. what would the cutoff be for health or retirement benefits? surely someone who just does a few rides on the weekend for extra spending money should not qualify for bennies. if someone who is driving full time gets benefits, and then out of nowhere decides to start driving only once or twice a week, how would the company keep track of this, and extend/revoke benefits accordingly?

lyft and uber drivers surely deserve more protections and benefits, but the simple classifications of full/part time employee and independent contractor were conceived in a time before the internet, when the "gig economy" could not even be imagined yet...maybe we need a new classification of employee for these app based gig economy jobs rather than trying to stuff them into one of two boxes that clearly are not a good fit, and dont speak to an employment model that would have been impossible to imagine 20 or 30 years ago?

Uber and lyft reap the benefits?  They both have been operating at losses,  and I suspect won't be around more than a decade more.

Like I said, if you don't like the terms of your employment go elsewhere.  It's simple. 

Lumber it's getting late, put the booze away, maaaan.

LLOLLO gets my vote for her efforts to organize the WCZJ.  In the middle of a pandemic, her dedication to and perserverance in putting together tie event was an outstanding example of maintaining a sense of community in the face of dire circumstances.  Real action in surreal times.

I like timpane's "joke of the day" feature here on Viva, don't you? He's very amusing.

Uber and Lyft operating on such a loss that were able to spend 200 million dollars to push this proposition. That is by far the most money invested into a proposition in the state of California. They didn't do it so they could make less money. 
 

https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-details/2020/Ub...

Uber did not operate at a loss in 2019. They actually grew 30% and their public stock option went up over 75 billion. Where are you getting your info from, Racket?

Sorry about your poor reading comprehension, Racket. Or perhaps you are projecting with your comment regarding alcohol?  

But allow me to explain...

My original comments regarding the California props was in response to pyramid's statement. 

My comments to you were in response to the way you tried to spin the stated facts.

The facts are that California voters did vote to exempt companies, like uber, from California labor laws. Laws which apply to other companies of similar size.

And they voted against using affirmative action considerations regarding admissions for higher education. 

Facts.

Sorry if you find these facts confusing. 

It's morning time lumber.  Definitely time to put the bottle away.  I'm not debating your facts.  Lol.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-results/uber-sees-profit-by-end-...

timpy even your link shows they operated at a loss in 2019.  1.1 billion, I think?  Parenthesis are no bueno in regards to EBITDA.

So you're just taking shots at me because you're an asshole? Hell, I knew that you were an asshole before your asinine comment... but thanks for being consistent, I guess.

This statement could be at the heart of your comprehension problem...

> I'm not debating your facts.<

They aren't my facts, they are just facts. 

Again, because you're obviously having difficulty understanding... my original statement was a response to pyramid's post. Perhaps it would be clear if you read pyramid's post? Until then, keep working on your comprehension skills, you just might see some improvement. 

Once again I nominate about town cool fuck Noodler - not that he'd ever accept

although I appreciate daylight's contributions, Noodler is far more entertaining (sorry, daylight)

This indeed is a dilemma. 

""So popular that the state of California voted to exempt companies like lyft and uber from labor laws""

who's spinning what lumber?  
 

youre a mess dude, seek help.

Racket is the ZOTY. Richest winner ever. 

Don't worry slacker, the government will save you.

https://wtop.com/business-finance/2020/02/lyft-annual-loss-more-than-dou...

uber and lyft do more business and lose more money.  Not a good model.

Yes, Racket, pyramid stated that left policies are the most popular. If this statement is true, why did a liberal state like California vote to exempt a large company, like lyft, from existing labor laws?    Not too liberal.

Also, if left policies are so popular, why did a liberal state like California vote to keep a ban on affirmative action in higher education?

See, Racket, if you take the time to read, and think, even you can meaningfully participate in these conversations.  

Keep trying, little buddy.

Racket, how much is bungalow worth? Could you sell it and buy twice the home somewhere else?

^I can do that, Slack. Jersey is expensive 

When did racket turn into a disgruntled grocery store employee?  They're unionized.

I agree with Mike, Alan deserves a nomination. Alan is consistently funny, without too much snark. Plus he is a pretty nifty artist. 

Although I stand by my nomination, I don't think my vote will be going to daylight, sorry daylight. Not that it's of consequence, but I agree with your take regarding the uber/lyft issue. 

These threads used to be so fun and funny.

I guess they are just really dependent on the host.

I believe there's no way there can be just one zoty. To make this interesting, categories really are a must. How about --- 

Whiney Bitch Of The Year

Most Generally Uninformed

Most Uninformed Voter

Most Genetically Damaged

Most All Around Obnoxious

Most Possibilities

Create Your Own Category

And so on and so forth

Hell I may be one or 2'a them.

Ok who's in charge of the count ?

Most genetically damaged?

Going to need some criteria on that one. Will lab work need to be submitted?

slacker, when is your lease up?

^^^Jesus Christ, Brian. You didn't have to be that accurate. Especially the last sentence. lol

Dibs on Most All Around Obnoxious.

Too many hanging Chads. Too many suspended Sierra Leones. Too many hovering Upper Voltas.

Heck! Maybe even an extra floating Gabon or two.

Since Lumber Truck mentioned nifty art and this thread has no pictures yet, this might be an appropriate time to share some pics of a Covid-inspired piece I just completed.

I had a small piece of really "clean" marble hanging around that I got in Rutland, Vermont (marble is from Danby). 

He doesn't have a name yet. Mr Nifty is a possibility.

Nice work!

Vermont sure does have some nifty marble.

Nice work, Alan. 

I would be remiss if I didn't mention Noodler's work. Sure he gives good meme, but I really dig his NOAA/NASA related info. Plus he is a Chris Chandler fan!

has 6'r ever been in the running for this award? i'd say doubtful...

 >Noodler's work<

Yeah, he has balls crawlin in to those mines for a chunck of rock.... I'm lazy and wait till it gets to the stoneyard.

Really Cool piece Alan!

That does it, you got my nomination!

Druba for VP!

No Noodler is who you want around in a disaster  Especially if hot lava is involved.  His pics and maps save lives. 

We have another month left unti the festivities. So a lot of time left.

Sailor sara has a good little memory.  Sara, for your files, please include I haven't worked in the Union in about 10 years.  I have no problem with workers organizing and forming unions.    ab5 was written by state representative Lorena Sanchez, former ceo of San Diego chapter of AFL-CIO.  She was greased by the unions to try and organize gig workers.  Fuck her and her shady kickbacks.

I have to wonder if Noodler would be able to serve out a full term. His carnivorous fauna could consume him at anytime.

Whoops. I was thinking flora, BK, but my fingers had other ideas.

I am equally doubtful you have been in the running either, JR. 

100 posts and still no votes for Brian K

Must be election fraud then, trumpane, right?

been tracking my ballot and for some reason it was diverted to somewhere in upstate new york

Six> sloppy mess> Vt white trash

I don't know,  BK, with your constant rational and factual take on things, I might have to nominate you for the Joe Friday ZONY. Either that or the most frequently trolled zoner?

Stop the Count !!! 

I think we have a Dark Horse Nominee...

>>Six> sloppy mess> Vt white trash

Am I supposed to feel bad or be impressed?

^^ y'all be some damaged goods -- quite a breakfast club, always fun to start my day laughing

This guy needs some kind of honorable mention, and maybe two of them.

Wrong thread

<<<<You have way more posts than me>>>>
 

Somebody had to make this a good thread. 

Alan if you win i will send you this rock.

I mean stone.

>Somebody had to make this a good thread<

You are not helping that cause 

Most hated and I'm ok with it, lumber fuck

^You thrive on the negativity, eh? 

FWIW, I don't believe that people hate you, Timpane.  I believe you are thought off as an angry fool, who has a specious understanding of the issues discussed

OCLT nails it.

OK OK !!!!

THE moment You all have been waiting for.

DRUM ROLL......

And with little to no fanfare whatsoever...

Continued drum roll as the tension builds...

I'd like to nominate....

P-Heat 

NEO ZOTY !!!

Congrats Kid !!!

I hope Timpane never gets his phone fixed.

^Right now I'm trying to find enough saddles so you guys can ride my cock all day long.

^ god you're a putz 

no spot taken

^You literally just claimed the first spot. It comes with Covid for all you older heads out there. 

^ go take a lap kid...

you're bullshit ran its course 

Shut up before I breath on your bitch ass.
 

The boogie mans real. Covid coming to get ya

bad juju man

smh

I doubt that you have a cock

might partially explain what you project 

It's coming for us all TOD. Maybe we deserve it. 

enjoy

https://youtu.be/kuFI_jOSyGw

> Shut up before I breath on your bitch ass.

It's breathe, but that still doesn't make your ramblings any more comprehensible, Timpane. Get a grip, dude.

And what Timmy said.

>>>so you guys can ride my cock all day long<<<

Ah, maybe THAT'S what it is.

I've often wondered about Timpane's issue with older people. At first I figured it was just some soft trolling, and that's probably what most of it is, but the guy definitely has a twitch about people of a certain age, and that comment may explain his fear.

Don't worry Timpane, it doesn't happen to everybody and they have drugs for that if it does, but either way you will for sure be wiser 20 years from now, just as you're wiser now than you were 20 years ago, and IMO that's more valuable than an all-day hard dick.

The never-ending accruing of experience & wisdom is the best part of aging, and it can also be the most frustrating, since most younger people do not want to hear or acknowledge any of that wisdom. Ask anyone who's had to deal with teenagers.

It's fear of the unknown.

Don't be afraid Timpane. You'll be fine.

Unless you don't wear a mask or get vaccinated.

Then it's a crapshoot.

The preceding message was brought to you by Cialis: It's not just for geezers anymore.

the DOTY is easy...

AOTY

Covid Satan 19 55+ is a little insensitive. Gonna change my handle when I can think of a new one.

Dude I got no beef against cialis. Ol timers gotta rock then they gotta rock. I'll be fucking with that shit one day if needed. No hate

I'm glad to read that you've come to your senses, BK. Maybe now you can get behind my nomination for Mr Timpane's broken phone.

Is that a Kyocera?

Sort of makes me miss the old razr for a sec

another vote for that fucking phone. timp is in the lead. 

To be clear, I did not nominate Timpane; I nominated his phone.

^the modern mobile phone is an extension of the individual. 

^I'm not an authority on the rules, but I have to question the eligibility of OSHA dude.

OSHA guy is from the government. He's here to help us.

^these events always need seat fillers

<<<>>>>If he wins, maybe we can have a pizza party and play

too expensive for you neoliberal fucks. 

im joking. god. i have to put that in there for you neoliberals fucks. 

lol zachary's. 

BK where is your go-to pizza spot in Burlington?

And please don't tell me the it's frozen food aisle lol

they're all sysco restaurants. 

but pizza up here is slim pickin's. 

I honestly never understood how you could screw up pizza and then I moved to Florida for a spell.  It took years to find a decent pie.

^non existent 

it's difficult to make good dough. 

funny, there's a place in south philly called florida style pizza. they do the panzerotti -- deep fired saucy calzone (a south jersey delicacy).  

never been tho. 

if i spoke politics at my shop nobody would come lol.

but that pie sounds like a vermonter's dream.  

BK you don't have to hold back. Just say it aloud to your self and you'll feel better. "I nominated Mr. Timpane for Zoner of the Year."

Stop trying to hold it in man. Just be free

Seriously though, if your in VT and haven't been to pyramids place then you're just missing out. Just go and eat some real food. Buy some ranch. Don't be scurred

>>>>>call it the Neoliberal Fuck.

Don't forget the extra cheese!

ogkb, post up a pic of one of your pies and I'll second RRG's nomination.

i nominate all you neoliberals fucks who will hand the gop '22 and '24 and complete the meltdown fully. 

rrg is a troll. 

the oil and gas lobby are lining up spots in the cabinet, as you'd expect...

^yup. just like trump. 

https://www.dailyposter.com/p/news-bidens-first-climate-appointment

>>Seriously though, if your in VT and haven't been to pyramids place then you're just missing out

You're really clueless, aren't you?

There is a ton of Vermont in which pyramid's shop could be over two hours away.

NO pizza is worth driving 2 hours for.
I'm not even sure it's worth driving an hour for any pizza.

Surely NOT during a pandemic.

Are you thinking Vermont is like a ten square mile piece of land?

Holy fuck! Just amazingly clueless.

2 hours drive for pizza no problem

2 pies shipped to Florida from Pizza Oven in Canton Oh. $240.00, best Father's Day present ever 

Driven two hrs for pizza many times to NYC for pizza. Was plenty worth it. Pyramid shop is more than worth it.

Nice melt though, Six. The CAPS got you a 3.0

You drive two hours to NY for pizza?

You don't do anything else while you are there?

You just drive 2 hours - eat pizza - drive two hours back home?

You're not going to New York for some worthwhile reason and getting a pizza while you are there. You drive two hours just for pizza.

And according to you - you have done that "many times".

That is the most amusing thing thing I have read here in years. 

You are not common idiot - you are a true champion.
 

Also I had one three letter word in CAPS - NOT - and one two letter word - NO - and that is a meltdown?

Maybe you could drive two hours for such a massive meltdown. lol

 

ogkb

 pyramidheat on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 – 09:21 pm

 

rrg is a troll. 

Sorry Heater, You lost call out cred when You were named NEO ZOTY.

haha

6, you don't drive for good food? 

people drive to me from rutland, waitsfield, irasburg, montreal, portland ME. 

you're the crazy one man. lol. 

driving from jersey to nyc for pizza is common. 

Six still melting because he has no taste. Get out of your cave and experience some culture, guy.

>>6, you don't drive for good food? 

Of course I do - but right now your pizza is hearsay. If I tried it and I thought it was good - of course I would come back.

Right now - during the pandemic - I'm not even gong out much here as it is - so going to Chittenden county ain't happening.

 

>>people drive to me from rutland, waitsfield, irasburg, montreal, portland ME. 

Just to get your pizza as the sole reason? Someone from Portland ME doesn't stop at your place when he is in Burlington but specifically drives from Portland ME just to get your pizza? Sorry - I find that either hard to believe or crazy.

>>Get out of your cave and experience some culture, guy.

You consider Pizza as "culture"? Wow! Okay. That says it all. Enjoy your two hour drives.
 

^^thats b/c it's fake turkish food, and a sysco restaurant. 

there are pizzerias in the tri state that are literally 100yrs old. 

the culture exists -- you are wrong. 

<<<>>>>Just to get your pizza as the sole reason? Someone from Portland ME doesn't;t stop at your place when he is in Burlington but specifically drives from Portland ME just to get your pizza? Sorry - I find that either hard to believe or crazy.

i don't care what you believe -- it's true. i was shocked as well. 

i feel like 6 gives people anxiety when he hangs out w/ them. 

Hahaha! That's funny.
You give people bullshit anger on the zone every day. 

Whatwevs, bro.

thank you. 

Just because six chose to raise his family in Vermont he lives in a cave and has no culture.  Lol.  I think he has some history in large east coast city.  Not that I need to defend him.  Some of these insults are laughable.

If you haven't tried a frozen homerun

with adding your own favorite toppings...

you're missing out.

also driving an hour+ in vermont isn't really a big deal. 

why is tri state trash telling that to a vermonter? 

6, come by -- we wear masks and socially distance -- no, you can't come in and use my bathroom, you filthy animal. 

bk, i know. i'm saying if they were actually representing the culture, maybe. 

it's an american diner w/ turkish "ingredients". classic american style ethnic restaurant. 

i can guarantee if you came to my shop you'd taste authentic italian foods you can't get anywhere else in the states -- very few places. 

plants that are native to campana and shit like that. southern italian culture. 

No worries. We have a bathroom in the cave.

but absolutely understand not wanting to travel. 

wish i could stay in the hills and never go to burlington lol. 

I drove to Burlington every day for 30 years. I don't miss it. 

stoefers french bread pizza was awesome. 

mama celeste. 

tombstone. 

Hahahaaaaaaaa you fuckin' yo-yo's.  Ever heard of making your own at home ? It's not hard. Something even an incompetent boob can easily master. White pizza rules my house.

Coat large cookie sheet with course cornmeal, make the dough, or you can buy the pre-made (whole wheat). Roll with a bit of flour, and stretch it out. Light coating of light olive oil, then your toppings. 15 mins at 450 - Bam yer done. My favs garlic, spinich, broccoli (sometimes clams)  and 4 cheese Italian. BAM 

We don't eat frozen pizza in the cave.

do you smoke dmt in the cave? 

No, that was Plato.

^ we're about to do that with impossible burger

fuck using corn

2 Packages Impossible™ Burger (12 Oz. Each)

1/2 Cup Diced Bell Pepper

1/2 Cup Diced Celery

1/2 Cup Diced Onion

1/2 Cup Diced Carrot

2 Teaspoons Olive Oil

1/2 Teaspoon Kosher Salt

1/2 Teaspoon Black Pepper

1 Pinch Red Pepper Flakes

2 Tablespoons Tomato Paste

8 Ounces Canned Stewed Tomatoes

1/4 Cup Chicken Or Vegetable Stock

1/2 Teaspoon Garlic Powder

1/2 Teaspoon Ground Fennel

1/2 Teaspoon Onion Powder

1 Teaspoon Vegetable Bouillon

2 Cups Rustic Potatoes, Peeled And Cubed

1/4 Cup Half And Half

1 Pinch Of Salt

1 Pinch Of Pepper

1 Stick Of Butter

12 Ounces White Cheddar

Chopped Parsley To Garnish

https://impossiblefoods.com/recipes/cheesy-impossible-shepherds-pie

Hell Yeah on grow your own, make your own. That shepherds pie sparked me up for tomorrow's dinner.

How about an Honorary ZOTY ?  My vote goes to Al ---

" The only mystery in life is why the kamikaze pilots wore helmets "  --- Al McGuire

I'm trying to figure out if I'm a neoliberal fuck, but I'm finding competing definitions:

Neoliberal: a liberal who de-emphasizes traditional liberal doctrines in order to seek progress by more pragmatic methods.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neoliberal

Neoliberal: supporting a large amount of freedom for markets, with little government control or spending, and low taxes.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/neoliberal

Neoliberalism: an outgrowth of the liberal political movement that is more moderate than traditional liberalism, especially in its embrace of free-market capitalism.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/neoliberalism

I can get behind the first definition, but the second two don't work for me at all. A little help here, ogkb?

Yes, eating and experiencing at local food restaurants who are doing a service to provide their best quality of food is culture. BK try not to drag your ass all along the zone today, bud. Getting kinda old. 
 

Six, what do you do in VT? Just wondering since driving two hrs for anything seems like too much of a trip for you. What would you say it is you do there?

^^^ good call on the tomatoes, might make it too wet

got the y. golds and reds from our garden

*yawn*

That Sheppards pie sounds gross. 

Timpane? Are you as broken as your phone?

Where did I say I wouldn't drive two hours for anything?
What I said was I thought it was silly to drive two hours just for pizza.

To answer your question, I'm too young to be fully retired, so instead be I am a semi-retired ski bum.
I separated from the big money rat race two years ago and I am now employed in the ski industry.

It's a much simpler life without a lot of the high-pressure bullshit of the rat race.

I hope that answers your question sufficiently.

^ what's the ski/riding season with covid precautions look like for this season?

optimistic??

tanks in advance

T.O.D.

Well, it looks pretty crazy right now and somewhat old school.

Peeps encouraged to boot up at the car and minimal time in the lodge. No bars and no music in the lodges this year. Food will be "to go" and will be minimal. I bet a lot of resorts will have food trucks spread out in the parking lots.

The skiing and riding itself will be no problem social distancing - but the lifts will be limited in loading. 1-2 people per lift depending on type - unless you are a family group and you can ride up together.

Many resorts have instituted daily reservations and limits on how many people will be on the mountain every day. One good thing about being an employee is that we are not subject to the reservation system and ski and/or ride any day we want. Also many resorts will only be open at first to pass holders and it is questionable if there will be a day lift ticket market at all this year.

All lessons, reservation, etc will also be done on-line.

Skiier/Rider to resort staff contact will be at a minimum

At Jay Peak here in Vermont - things will be really strange as they normally get 70-75% of their business from Canada and the border is closed to only essential travel is permitted. Skiing and riding are, of course,  considered non-essential. So Jay Peak could see a HUGE decline in revenue - plus they are being operated by court-appointed receiver as well due to crazy EB5 practices that have the former owners in court.

I think most other ski areas are forecasting to be down 50% or more this year.

thanks man

imagining jay's with nobody there 

all that deep shit

wow

hope it works out for you

I hope covid works out for all us.

It's going to be a roller coaster ride for at least a couple years - mainly because our current President let it get out of control.

And I'm talking across most industries beyond the heavily effected Travel, Hospitality and Food and Entertainment industries. As things get really bad in those industries - they will, in turn - effect just about all industries for a long while. I know the stock market is near record highs - but that's right now - and we all know the stock market is a great barometer for wealthy people, but not for the economy in general.

^ Cool blog.

Vegetarian Shepard's pie lol. Just terrible.