I thought the Right was completely insane for pretty much all of Obama's administration; now it's pretty clear the crazy is equally present on the Left.
Kicking somebody out of a resturrest because you don't like their politics? Check.
Refusing to make a gay couple a cake because you don't like their sexual orientation? Check.
Nah fuck that. Anyone who works for this administration gets what they have coming to them. Unlike people who are born gay, she has a choice in representing and constantly lying for a piece-of-shit individual who is ruining our country’s standing in the world, treating foreigners like they are less than human and lying constantly to the people he represents.
Fuck her. I hope her, Stephen Miller and the rest of their fucked up crew get harassed in public wherever they go. They don’t give a shit about a very large portion of the citizens of our country and they deserve it back in spades.
Bucky, I appreciate your comment, but can't you see how slippery the slope is here?
I'll be candid and admit I'm not a fan of right wing people in general; but to throw somebody out of a restaurant for their politics definitely doesn't represent the kind of tolerance and intelligence that I've always associated with being liberal. In fact, I'd say it's the exact opposite.
The greatest trick Donald Trump has pulled on the country is lowering the bar of civility to a place where people who used to be reasonable actually cheer for shit like this. Fuck that.
>Nope. The same logic that compels a person to kick somebody out of a restaurant for their politics compels a person to discriminate for other reasons.
My argument isn't that they're a protected class, Nancy.
My argument is for civility, and the crazy idea that kicking people you disagree with politcally out of restaurants is a lot closer to nazi shit than I'm comfortable with.
>>>The greatest trick Donald Trump has pulled on the country is lowering the bar of civility to a place where people who used to be reasonable actually cheer for shit like this. Fuck that.
I see all of your points. Well put.
In all honesty, if I went through life with news blinders on my life hasn’t changed much of at all since Trump has been elected. But to me, he’s SUCH an over the top needlessly reckless idiot, whose supporters dig in deeper the more and more unhinged he gets, that it’s hard to remain civil. I shouldn’t have disdain for any percentage of fellow Americans but it’s definitely come to that.
>>>>>My argument is for civility, and the crazy idea that kicking people you disagree with politically out of restaurants is a lot closer to nazi shit than I'm comfortable with.
they can't see that for what it is because of trump hatred. boggles the mind
I agree that the moral high ground (if there is such a thing anymore), would be not to have kicked her out, though it sounds like she wasn't kicked out, but asked to leave (wow, such distinctions). Personally they should have just asked her questions the entire time, with follow ups, and perhaps some fact checking by the dishwasher, who I'm sure is use to cleaning up other peoples shit...
It depends on how you view the child-separation policy. If you think the decision to separate children from parents as a means of deterring other asylum seekers is simply one more policy choice, like tax cuts or negotiations with North Korea, then, yes, screaming at political opponents is inappropriate. Such conduct is contrary to the democratic notion that we do not personally destroy our political opponents but, rather, respect differences and learn to fight and perhaps compromise on another day. If, however, you think the child-separation policy is in a different class — a human rights crime, an inhumane policy for which the public was primed by efforts to dehumanize a group of people (“animals,” “infest,” etc.) — then it is both natural and appropriate for decent human beings to shame and shun the practitioners of such a policy.
This exception to the rule of polite social action should be used sparingly (if for no other reason than we will never get through a restaurant meal without someone hollering at someone else). If a lawmaker, for example, who favors a harsh, ill-conceived immigration bill walks into a restaurant, I would not recommend raising a rumpus (though I would not invite that person to my home).
Listen, I get it. The notion of shunning or excluding or heckling can devolve into philosophical hair-splitting as to whether someone has engaged in normal public service or whether they’ve strayed outside the bounds of decent behavior. Each to his own method of expressing disdain and fury, I suppose.
I have to agree with St. Mark on this one. It is a slippery slope and I'm afraid we have entered the steepest part of that slope and things will only accelerate for some time now.
Here is a realistic scenario that I would not be at all surprised happens soon and could easily be supported with some of the things mentioned above.
A mild mannered person who is sick of the Trump era has placed a Dump Trump bumper sticker on their car. The are driving through a rural area of the country that has strong support for the president. They look down at gas gauge and needs to get some fuel. They notice that a sign says last fuel for 70 miles. They pul in and the owner/worker of the station looks at the bumper sticker and lets the driver know that they don't serve those who denigrate the president. By the above reasoning, it should be "OK" to refuse them service.
The scenario is is a very rural area where pay at the pump technology might not exist, but I could extend the scenario a bit and say pay at the pump technology does exist and via, say, CCTV the proprietor shuts off the pump.
It’s a fucking restaurant, and you’re open to the public. You serve your damn customers, regardless of their political and/or social views. If that customer makes offensive comments while in your place of business, you then ask them to leave.
Sanders may be a piece of shit, but she has every right to be served in a public place. She should also expect that her food is free of spit or jizz.
She is complicit and no ordinary citizen. The Trump regime crossed a line when they started snatching babies and putting them in cages, and they're getting a taste of their own "moral" medicine.
Sanders has also defended the right's of restaurants refusing service to people they find morally objectionable. even going so far as to claim that putting up signs in restaurants "no gays served here" is fair game - you know, based on one's religious/moral convictions.
Trumpist are suffering the free market consequences of being Deplorable, but deplorables are not a
protected class.
Liberal women are under no social or moral compulsion to provide romance and sex to misogynistic men.
Honduran cooks are under no obligation to serve food to those who want to rip Central American kids out of their parents’ arms and put them in cages.
Cosmpolitan cities have no responsibility to create safe spaces for people who reject their values and want to gerrymander them out of representation in government.
They go low, we go high is viewed as weakness in their eyes.
The only thing that works is using their words and tactics against them,
I>>>>>t’s a fucking restaurant, and you’re open to the public. You serve your damn customers, regardless of their political and/or social views. If that customer makes offensive comments while in your place of business, you then ask them to leave.
The far edges of the conservatives movement often fantasize about a second civil war with the American left,
imaging multi-racial shock troops coming to rural areas to extract taxes and confiscate guns,
facing a local insurgency with a rifle behind every duck blind.
But that Red Dawn scenario has no bearing to a plausible dystopian reality.
The real situation is the reverse:
Conservatives want the social and economic benefits that come from ecumenical urbanism, but they want to retain the deep bigotries and social privileges that come from provincialism. They want the right to enact zoning and social policies that discriminate against protected class minorities in their own communities, but they want not to suffer the cultural consequences of those views in liberal cities.
Pyramid, off subject a bit, but the other day i was i a diner and noticed a guy wearing his MC club patch, a one percenter MC club. Would you serve this man? Ask him to leave?
i'm not asking anybody to leave; if they bring hate symbols and/or hate speech into my joint, that's different, and absolutely they're being told to leave.
>>> i'm not asking anybody to leave; if they bring hate symbols and/or hate speech into my joint, that's different, and absolutely they're being told to leave.
Dude, their faces are known throughout the WORLD as symbols of hate.
So if they don't wear the symbols... KKK, swastikas etc.
Sorry, if you aren't okay with drawing a line against fascism, you are enabling it to fester and grow. Maybe if a few more Germans had stepped up and resisted the Nazis rise to power, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
No one answered my question. What's wrong with being intolerant of hatred, lies and, yes, fascism?
You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, otherwise you are just spineless and complicit.
The Jews, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses and Homosexuals of Europe in the 1930s-40s tried the civility route. Guess what happened to them?
Your dome is full of theoretical shit that never comes into play. That's the extent to which you can demonstrate resistance to a shitty administration? Cringy as fuck.
1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
Good question Mark. I don't ID people who walk in, so to me she would just be another customer. If she started ranting some crazy shit or acting agro, I would ask her to leave, as I have asked others who were out of line or just having a bad day. Otherwise my objective is to hopefully connect the consumer with a piece of music or cinema (we sell a lot more than just "used cds") that elevates their consciousness. The arts can be a healing experience. Cuisine can be too.
I may take a different approach, but I support the rights of an owner to not serve someone they have ethical differences with.
What part of "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" are you not getting?
>>>Good question Mark. I don't ID people who walk in, so to me she would just be another customer. If she started ranting some crazy shit or acting agro, I would ask her to leave, as I have asked others who were out of line or just having a bad day. Otherwise my objective is to hopefully connect the consumer with a piece of music or cinema (we sell a lot more than just "used cds") that elevates their consciousness. The arts can be a healing experience. Cuisine can be too.
I was just trolling you, Java Dave. Nobody buys used CDs anymore.
Of course you were, Mark, that's all you 're good for. Very Trumpian of you. While you get points for acknowledging your inner troll, you still need to face up to that fascist-enabler inside of you.
It's funny how you're always cozying up to the millenials, yet the millenial working for me yesterday read what you were posting in this thread and thought you were either ignorant or full-of-shit.
As for your wildly inaccurate conjecture, I've got $800 in my pocket from yesterday that says otherwise.
"I actually thing there's a big difference between one of the most powerful people in the world, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, using her official government platform to claim victim status when what she's doing is trying to distract from the way the Administrations' policies are actually victimizing some of the least powerful people on the planet - refugee children. There's a difference being discriminated against for who you are and being judged for what you do. And that's what we saw" - Heather McGhee
>>>Of course you were, Mark, that's all you 're good for. Very Trumpian of you. While you get points for acknowledging your inner troll, you still need to face up to that fascist-enabler inside of you.
Yes. I'm actually growing out a Hitler mustache.
>>>It's funny how you're always cozying up to the millenials, yet the millenial working for me yesterday read what you were posting in this thread and thought you were either ignorant or full-of-shit.
I bet. The kid making $13 and hour at your used CD store is no doubt an accomplished social critic offering bleeding edge insights on the people who make fun of his boss on the internet.
>> As for your wildly inaccurate conjecture, I've got $800 in my pocket from yesterday that says otherwise.
Damn, baller. Looks like you're all lined up for another twofer at Men's Warehouse.
Not really. Overhead's not too bad, but it's part of doing business.
That's a solid day, Saturday or otherwise. Some of my fellow entrepreneurs in the U-District were moaning that they were slow (it's Pride weekend here, and most of the activities surrounding that are happening in a different neighborhood), but we had a good crowd yesterday. I don't really get rich doing what I do, though. It pays the bills and hopefully contributes something positive to my neighborhood, and for the most part, I enjoy it. Somewhat of a labor of love, but I'm not alone in that. You should give it a try some day, if you can make the numbers work.
Yeah, sure man. I'm just living high on the hog in my mansion on the hill.
Minimum goes to $15 next year. Still won't be enough to get by for most in this overheated market. Many small businesses have cut and will continue to cut employee hours to try to cover costs. It's not a healthy recipe. For the first time in my life, I wouldn't be surprised to see class warfare occur.
Those are issues I have to consider daily.
When are you going to consider that you don't need to be such a 24/7 douche?
Lol, you copped the title for this thread from a convo where I was literally asked what percentage black I am, and whether my dad was in the picture. Don't be such a softie, Java Dave.
Anyway, good to see Tod keeping up the fight. #Resist!
Maybe the onus should be on the establishment to post their philosophies:
”We proudly support and employ people of all races, nationalities, languages and gender identities. If you disagree with our philosophies, perhaps this establishment isn’t for you.”
or
”Our religious and political beliefs are that gender and marriage is one man, one woman, and that people in this country should speak English. If you disagree, perhaps this establishment isn’t for you.”
If you're going to resort to trolling, you should take it elsewhere. I'm sure there are other places to work through your attention issues.
My crew enjoy their work and seem to like their jobs. They are making more from me as entry-level part-time employees than I was making as a full-time buyer on the world's busiest buy counter at the Amoeba Music in Hollywood. If I could, I would pay them more. It worries me that the costs of doing business could negate doing business. Like I said, not a healthy situation.
Java Dave, you realize people have access to read this thread real time, right?
I only ask because there's nothing more pathetic than a zoner who attempts to troll another zoner, and then cries foul when they get their shit pushed.
Sarah is a big girl and can handle that. Its also the restaurant's owner right to refuse service to anyone (as long as its not based on a protected status and working for Trump is not).
That being said, there is a growing feeling of intolerance from the left on anything having to do with Trump that reminds me of the wacky way the right wingers hated everything and anything having to do with Obama. For example, I heard that there was some late night comedy host who recently wished a recession upon America just to hurt Trump's chances at a second term. I despise Trump and his megalomania as much as the next guy, but to wish ill will on America to get at Trump is really cutting off your nose to spite your face. Reminds me of how the right wing was furious when Obama got the Nobel peace prize and cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics bid. There are many, many reasons that Trump and his policies are a shameful embarrassment to this country, but the critics really need to stay focused on substance and not let raw emotion and blind rage dictate the debate.
I can help, Nancy. See, Ana Navarro is a republican strategist who made a comment in 2013 about how stay-at-home-moms "lean back on a rocking chair with a mint julep"; because, ya know, she doesn't have any children of her own and never will.
At 50 cents to $2 a pop, its the best musical bang for your buck.<<<
I Don't Collect Clown CDs at that Price .... Some are $4.99 to 6.99 The Horror ! Not !! Collecting CDs is one Of The Wonders Of The World - I Will Do It Till I Die.
No, never heard of her before. never heard of George Will either. Lol.
She’s been a critic of Trump’s policies for 2 years now. and she’s been spot on. Now go cherry pick some previous George Will statements that we all disagree with and are totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Naw. The only orders you get to give are for another mint julep, Nanc.
I'm honestly disappointed. You should never be outflanked by me in a political discussion, but here we are. Do some research before you go meme'n next time. Come to think of it, we had that whole thing with Kanye West quoting that feminist who misquoted Tubman last month too, didn't we?
Wrong. I'll link the Kanye thread when I sober up from all these mint juleps, Nanc.
In the meantime, enjoy your association with the slightly more moderate wing of the republican party; who openly mock women like you. Like i said, crazy times.
I'm asking Admin to clarify their position on trolling. Mark is actively trolling me in this thread. He has stated so many times. Are you all going to allow that? Have the rules of engagement here changed?
Imagine if Obama or one of his high profile officials was denied a meal from a farm to table restaurant because of his cozy stance with Monsanto, and it made national news. It might of actually highlighted the issue and his failure to do anything to protect the public from their enormous grasp as a corporation on the world food supply.
Who cares Sara Sanders didn’t get a meal? She is the face and voice defending these narcissistic, inhumane pieces of shit. In this case it highlights the deep anger people have toward this administration and their lack of basic human decency. It’s not for nothing.
Yes, Java Dave. I'm trolling you from a secret location which may or may not be located deep within the Trump International hotel.
The president führer has given me access to special Russian trollware, which gives me the ability to hack into the Facebook accounts of small business owners in order to spread fascist propaganda brainwashing people into being more civil and less reactionary when they think about throwing people out of their chicken restaurants.
I also have a little cage full of children illegal immigrants who do the really dicey IT work, and keep me pumped full of motorboat and Nicaraguan coffee so I can do this shit 24/7, like a boss.
I'm asking Admin to clarify their position on trolling. Mark is actively trolling me in this thread. He has stated so many times. Are you all going to allow that? Have the rules of engagement here changed?
I'm asking for some clarification.
Damn that's fucked up Dave.
Especially due to the timing of it and what's been going on in this thread.
Just tired of all the isms that get flung too often here. Racism and sexual orientationism are usually frowned upon here (and rightly so). Sexism gets a bit of a pass sometimes, unfortunately, and ageism is rampant.
It's OK to harass folks for what they do - it's usually just rude. Not OK to harass them for what they are.
Pretty much just like the parameters that should apply when transacting business at a cake shop or firewood vendor.
I'm a little late to this party but ill say to Mark and others -- racism, lies, propaganda and the need to keep a insane con man in the oval office isn't politics.
Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is seeing people who are normally at loggerheads with each other agreeing with each other that this action isn't such a great idea. Gives me hope for the future and brings a tear to my eye.
“He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way,” Lynch said.
Lynch added that Trump has shown that there could be a space for political outsiders to move the country forward.
“Our so-called leaders can’t take the country forward, can’t get anything done. Like children, they are. Trump has shown all this,” he told the newspaper
>> Wow, first Kanye and now David Lynch.
A lot of film students must be waking up and crying in their coffee.
>..The president chimed in after the initial uproar, claiming that his wife wore the jacket to taunt the “fake news media.” But given that Mrs. Trump has never shown animosity toward the press the way her husband has, that interpretation feels empty. Others have speculated that the message was intended for her husband. There’s also a chance that it was meant for the families she was visiting.
“It’s a jacket. There was no hidden message,” said her spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham.
Grisham was right. There was no hidden message. There are no hidden messages in fashion. Everything we wear is deliberate, even if we’re trying to deliberately show that we don’t care. We wear clothes that we think are professional, flattering, sexy, comfortable, or formal, and we do it with purpose. We advertise bands, brands, sports teams, and political leanings. We dress for funerals, weddings, school, and the beach, and we think about all of it — even the flip-flops.
That’s why it’s nearly impossible to view Mrs. Trump’s Zara jacket as an afterthought. The first lady is a woman who understands the power of clothes, and unless the jacket was placed on her while blindfolded, she was sending a message. We’ll likely never know what the true message was. All we really know is that the chilly, detached “I really don’t care, do u?” felt like a slap to an already bruised and divided national psyche...
>This article was sparked by the jacket that Melania Trump wore as she travelled to a detention camp for migrant children, but my intent isn’t to argue that she or her staff chose that jacket in order to send a coded message to the president’s far-right followers. It is, rather, to highlight some of the historical echoes of that phrase – ‘I don’t care’.
The echoes of which someone ought to have been aware, especially in an administration that includes – to put it mildly – several far-right sympathisers. And also to show that the attitude, the theatrical ‘not caring’, was an explicit character trait of Fascism.
Which, at the very least, seems a troubling coincidence.
Fascism lay its roots in the campaign for Italy’s late entry in the First World War, of which Mussolini was one of the leaders. It was at this time that the phrase ‘me ne frego’ – which at the time was still considered quite vulgar, along the lines of the English ‘I don’t give a fuck’ – was sung by members of the special force known as arditi (literally: ‘the daring ones’) who volunteered for the front, to signify that they didn’t care if they should lose their lives.
The arditi were disbanded after the war, but many of them volunteered in 1919 for an expedition led by the poet Gabriele D’Annunzio to capture the city of Fiume (Rijeka, in present-day Croatia) and claim it for Italy during the vacuum created by the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire. At the time of this occupation, former arditi also formed the backbone of the original Black Squads during the terror campaigns that began in 1919 and culminated with the ‘March on Rome’ of 1922, which completed Fascism’s swift rise to power.
This lapel pin worn by an original member of the Black Shirts was recently sold on a website devoted to military memorabilia. It is emblazoned with the words ‘Me ne frego’ underneath the original symbol of the arditi and the acronym FERT (which stands for the motto of the Royal Family). The seller calls it ‘bellissimo’.
>>>pretty fucking weird whether or not he did, giving the timing and everything
The timing? Lol
I don't believe anybody here fucked with Java Dave's FB account. I certainly didn't. In fact, I think he just had a little melty. This wouldn't be the first time.
Late to the party but if I were the restaurant owner I wouldn't kick her out. Might make her pay up front since she is well known to be a dishonest person. Her credit is no good, even for the 20 min it takes her to eat.
First off she was not kicked out for her politics. She was kicked out because she actively works for an administration whose policies the majority of this country think are despicable. For too long moderate people have ceded passion to the right wing minority who now run this country. Elections are routinely decided by people who don’t pay that much attention, but they do pick up on which side feels strongly about things. I understand this slippery slope argument but the people who kicked her out represent the majority and we need to start acting like it if we want to take back control of this country. The time for hand wringing, reasoned arguments, and looking at things from all sides is over. If the tax hike on blue states passed by the minority didn’t wake you up I don’t know what will. It’s time to be passionate about what you believe and kick the fuckers out.
>>>First off she was not kicked out for her politics. She was kicked out because she actively works for an administration whose policies the majority of this country think are despicable
So in other words, she was kicked out for her politics.
Well, I deleted my FB account. Wasn't using it anyway.
Sorry if I freaked out, but when my brother and another friend called me to alert me that someone had got into my account and was impersonating me in an attempt to scam people, it made me worry about my elderly parents and aunts and uncles who might not see the scam in the spam being sent.
My question about what constitutes fairplay here hasn't been answered. Are there two sets of rules in place? I have tried to follow the instructions given in the Welcome To Viva post, but if you're going to allow such blatant disregard of those, then that changes the game.
Late to the party but if I were the restaurant owner I wouldn't kick her out. Might make her pay up front since she is well known to be a dishonest person. Her credit is no good, even for the 20 min it takes her to eat.>>>
Agree with that, also need to keep an eye on the salt and pepper shakers.
And a rare 1,2,3 triple doozy attack from, Mark, aetix and Timmy, impressive.
Fo6, Java Dave is in a time of personal reflection here. Please don't poke the hornets nest. He needs space to accept some things in order to grow as a zoner.
>>So in other words, she was kicked out for her politics.
No this administration doesn’t have politics. They don’t believe in anything other than amassing power and wealth while attempting to destroy their enemies. She was kicked out because the people are finally waking up to the fact that an administration that is willing to cage children as a bargaining chip in order to get a wall that will do nothing for security, but will help their dear leader save face needs to be resisted at every turn. Their supporters are still welcome in society, but the people who are working for them aren’t.
No Mark, that was me, and it was a fair comment as it was pertinent to the conversation. People who enable fascists get called Quislings, because that was the name of a guy who rolled over for the Nazi's.
The comments you and others are making about my workout regimen, the clothes I buy, what my business sells are not relevant to this discussion. In your own words, they are trolling remarks. Supposedly, there is a sanction for that. Supposedly you have already been through this process.
Mark, for a few weeks you were on a very nice tangent with witty sometimes caring posting, you really are a funny interesting person when you stay in check and stay away from being such a total asshole dude. Reign it in man.
When you call me a nazi and a fascist because you disagree with my opinion that people shouldn't be thrown out of restaurants, be prepared for some pushback, Java Dave.
I believe in Free Market Capitalism. I believe it is any business owner's own business who they choose to do business with. If their stance results in their being boycotted and them going out of business, so be it. If their stance sparks a movement and people come out of the woodworks to patronize them, so be it.
Honestly its about time the left started growing a backbone. the current potus is ruining this country and enabling and encouraging racism.
Back to topic, There is a big difference between the cake and the red hen incidents, if people think otherwise or disagree you really have a debate that can't be won either way by either side.
Thanks for sharing your opinion without calling me a nazi, Java Dave.
I won't bring up your involuntary celibacy, your cheap suits, or your lack of physical strength again, unless you talk shit; in which case, I'm going to troll you so hard you'll never be able to click on the Chrome browser icon again without going into a state of terminal catatonic despair.
First, we need to stop the misinformation, and SHS is a big part of it.
The POTUS just sent out another misleading twitter, calling the Red Hen dirty and in need of a paint job, when photos show an apparently well-maintained establishment.
Slacker, they are trying to have a nazi rally like they had in charlottesville here in DC. If i ran the local BLM group i'd rally the same day. Guaranteed it would be 3 to 1 advantage to BLM.
Everyone needs to register to vote and then vote, you can bet your ass all the trumpers are registered, if everyone registers we will win back decency and respect to this great country. No fking way are the trumpers the majority.
I won't bring up your involuntary celibacy, your cheap suits, or your lack of physical strength again, unless you talk shit; in which case, I'm going to troll you so hard you'll never be able to click on the Chrome browser icon again without going into a state of terminal catatonic despair.>>>
Mark, this is not your best work, you can do and be better.
Mexican food is a favorite of mine. Unfortunately, no one here who runs a "Mexican" restaurant can do better than a 4 on a scale of 1-10 except a lone taqueria in Waitsfield. They score a 6 maybe a 7.
Therefore - I have had to learn how to make good Mexican food myself. I do alright - I'm no expert - but I do know a taco is served on a corn tortilla.
I prefer soft flour tortilla tacos over corn tortillas, which tend to fall apart and make a mess. I also feel corn tortillas overpower the flavors of the filling. JMO.
Speaking of a mess, you all should make a mess of Chili Colorado using this recipe. It's ah-fucking-mazing. Serve with soft flour tortillas, or corn if you swing that way..not that there's anything wrong with that.
This should be a posted daily on every message board:
'El Guapo, I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education, but could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?'
The Jewish refugees from the Inquisition, in Little Spain (Mexico), couldn't eat corn because it wasn't kosher. They started making them from flour. The Christians had a tradition of eating unleavened flour, the sacrament, and picked up the idea of flour tortillas, which they liked better than corn.
I prefer soft flour tortilla tacos over corn tortillas, which tend to fall apart and make a mess. I also feel corn tortillas overpower the flavors of the filling. JMO.>>>
Also want to add that I'm in favor of the broken eggshell icon for the fragile zoners and a doberman wearing aviators and smoking a blunt icon for the cool zoners.
>>Is corn too spicy for Vermonters? Out here the stuff that goes in a taco has way more flavor than the corn tortilla(s).
Mr. Hoover, if you re-read the thread carefully - you'll see that it was a Californian, not a Vermonter, who said that corn tortillas over-power the flavors of the filling.
Fried tacos are an exception to my flour over corn preference. Fried tacos are the point of no return, I don't care if they fall apart since in all likelihood there will be red grease running down my arm anyhow.
>>>>>>Mr. Hoover, if you re-read the thread carefully - you'll see that it was a Californian, not a Vermonter, who said that corn tortillas over-power the flavors of the filling.
Thanks 6, I did read that post. I wasn’t responding to that post though. I was responding to BK. That’s why I quoted his post before responding.
Mark, pretty much. There's one Chipotle in this town, but about 30ish authentic Mexican places to compete. I don't know how the Gringo Mex chains stay in business.
The tortillas at our local taqueria are soft and thin corn ones. They don't fall apart, but they do give you two because they are thin and there wouldn't be enough corn taste with just one.
guess not. Either way I saw Dises post but my question was pretty clearly for Brian. Sorry you take issue with it. I’m unfamiliar with Vermont style tacos. I’m assuming they’re pretty limp and maybe even called acos because of the lack of T. Maybe not.
I didn't go "crying to Admin", I asked them to clarify their position on trolling. They did that, and I presume you got the message. I'm a lot thicker-skinned than you think, I just don't think it's fair to let one side play with a different set of rules.
flour for my mexicanish/sloppy american tacos. like a hard shell corn then wrapped in a flour tortilla, taco bell style. delicious.
agree w/ hoover about the properly made tortilla being sufficient enough-the taqueria has to do the nixtamalization method tho, nobody does that where i am from-i wonder if that is more the style out west? soaking the corn in lime water and alkaline solution, makes the best tortillas of course.
Ehh... I like them better when I make them myself. I make a bastardized version with rice, meat & cheese. I prefer just gutting a pablano - stuffing it with garlic, pineapple, onions and cilantro(lime and other spices) and throwing it on the grill. It's a great side for a skirt or flank steak.
>>>> I prefer just gutting a pablano - stuffing it with garlic, pineapple, onions and cilantro(lime and other spices) and throwing it on the grill. It's a great side for a skirt or flank steak.
All of the good taco places in Cabo have corn tortillas, never really had a bad one, on occasion they do fall apart. at some restaurants there they ask you, flour or corn, with a choice i have flour but don't complain if they bring corn. Al pastor is most excellent on corn, not sure if it would be as good on flour..
flour for my mexicanish/sloppy american tacos. like a hard shell corn then wrapped in a flour tortilla, taco bell style. delicious.>>>>>>>>
yep, like the double decker taco supreme only much better.
these are my people is south philly-only people in philadelphia practicing the nixtamalization.
they're also righteous people and the wife in the operation crossed the border twice-very outspoken illegal immigrant working and advocating for people like her-at the same time making some of the most authentic tacos in the country-straight up lamb barbacoa. fire.
We're lucky to live in a place with a pretty strong Hispanic community, so the Mexican food in Denver is pretty good.
When I lived in Denver, La Loma, the original location on W26th was across the street from my office. Knew it was the right place to eat Mexican when I crossed the threshold into that wonderful smoky smell. Is the new location still as good?
As for the strong hispanic community, I have to agree. Interestingly enough, during my time in Denver, the only bagel I found that was worth a damn was sold smack in the middle of one of the hispanic envlaves.
Denver also provided me with one of the funniest moments I ever saw on TV. After I got out of the shower in the hotel on my first day in Denver, I had the local network news on in an attempt to get some of the pulse of the city that was to be my home. While the traffic report was being done, they were showing a traffic camera focused on The Mousetrap area. While giving the report, a van lost control and went off the road into the grassy median. The broadcast team noticed and started making comments. As they were, the doors opened up and at least 10 people exited the vehicle and started running towards one of the hispanic areas with extreme vigor. The broadcast team started cracking jokes once they realized nobody was hurt.
I'm planning on taking my daughter to Casa Bonita at some point. It's a rite of passage for Colorado kids, for sure. We'll probably eat dinner before we go, and she can just run around Black Bart's Cave and watch the cliff divers.
>>>>I can't go into most authentic taquerias because everything is cooked in lard. Or they cook the rice in chicken broth.
Yep. I always have to ask if they put "manteca en los frijoles refritos" or "pollo en el arroz." However, they usually also have whole beans with no pollo and I often end up getting a side of whole beans and a couple of tortillas and salsa picante when eating at some authentic places. Makes for an inexpensive dinner. Funny, the only Mexican place I attempted to eat at where they had absolutely zero vegan options (outside Mexico) was in Denver. I think they even fried the tortilla chips in lard.
I'm STARVING ! There Are Fewer and Fewer Places That Make Full Size Hard Shell Tacos around me ! I Know One Place that I Like = I Am Going There Tomorrow ! street tacos are Everywhere though.....
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Monday on the House floor that he “strongly” disagrees “with those who advocate harassing folks who disagree with you.”
“No one should call for the harassment of political opponents,” he said.
When discussing the Red Hen incident on CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said he thinks the Virginia restaurant owner should have served Sanders.
Cummings did not mention Waters specifically but discussed his disapproval for the current incivility in politics.
“This tone is horrible. But again, I think President Trump has created this,” Cummings said. “Since he became president and even before, he has basically given people license to state things that are ugly.”
In Mexico, there is not an animal part known to man that doesn't go into tacos. Hard to find vegetarian street tacos down that way.
In Portland, by contrast, we have places like the Cruz Room, which bills itself as a "taco lab" and they have all sorts of crazy tacos, including my favorite called the "twice baked" which features breaded, fried vegan mac & cheese topped with a sriracha slaw. They always give you two tortillas with each taco, which makes it easy to share and mix it up:
I’ve got a new message today. Fuck all of you Trump lovers. I’m not taking the high road and whoever thinks people like me are the problem can get bent as well.
>>> I’ve got a new message today. Fuck all of you Trump lovers. I’m not taking the high road and whoever thinks people like me are the problem can get bent as well.
They bring their hate right up to the point that you use their tactics against them, then they turn tail, turtle and then cry about civility.
They'll call you a "liberal leftist".
They'll try to assassinate your character.
They'll always try to be the loudest mouth in the room.
Until you say this is unacceptable and enough is enough.
Here's to hoping we get a Taco Truck on every corner.
well, I guess everyone knows where my little town in Virginia is now lol! The Red Hen is a block away from my mom's apartment. The media has become a big pain in the ass the last few days. I am steering clear of downtown lol
my thoughts are this... the golden rule applies to everyone.. if you are rude, racist, disrespectful to others and side with a group of people who hold the same values, then you can expect the same treatment back.. that said, if you own a business, good practice serves all unless a customer is unruly and causing a serious problem. this is causing some serious backlash for our local businesses ~ many of them distancing themselves from the Red Hen. our town brings in quite a bit of tourism and we don't have a whole lot of big chain stores. this could hurt our town and many of my friends' local businesses.. it makes me sad how one administration can divide a country into so much hate.. it seems we've gone back in time 50 years.. i only hope that people wake up and our country can bounce back after this nightmare leaves the white house..
while many businesses are posting on social media that they do not support or agree with Red Hen, i absolutely love Blue Phoenix's response:
Blue Phoenix Cafe & Market
Happy Monday!
In light of our tumultuous weekend, there are some points that I feel are imperative to clarify.
1. We have received numerous calls and messages asking if we serve Republicans. Of course we do! We believe strongly in feeding everyone, but we do not feed hate, violence, or deceit. If an individual threatens the well-being of our customers, staff, or the safe, welcoming, community space that we work so hard to nurture here, then that individual will be asked to leave.
2. I have long thought that food is a social medium, capable of bringing together people from diverse places and perspectives to join in fellowship and conversation. Sitting down together and building community sometimes requires a conscious decision to trust one another (until and unless given a compelling reason not to) and this is what I am challenging all of us to do. Sharing a place at the table gives us space to acknowledge our differences with kindness and recognition of our shared humanity.
3. The hateful speech, threats, and actions that have been perpetrated against our community are the sole responsibility of the perpetrators themselves. That burden does not belong to the staff or owners of The Red Hen. If you believe in personal responsibility as firmly as I do, then it is up to all of us to respond with integrity to this toxic outpouring and hold these individuals accountable for the harm that they deliberately inflict on our neighbors and community.
4. We continue to stand in support of The Red Hen because we support the rights of small businesses to protect their staff, customers, and the values that define those relationships.
Thank you to everyone who has (and no doubt will) reach out with comments and concerns. I look forward to participating with you in this on-going conversation.
I also received an email, and have agreed to be more sensitive to the delicate sensibilities of certain zoners moving forward. <<<<
Fuck you. It's not about "delicate sensibilities", it's about not being a dick, and not trolling. Those are (supposedly) the groundrules here. I'm not the one getting warnings and time-outs.
As you, and apparently Hoover too, received an email telling you to quit your infantile behavior, you were clearly in the wrong. Instead of apologizing, you keep up with the misinformation and try to take the thread in another direction, all very Trump-like.
It's not like the both of you haven't been warned before.
You’re not being trolled now Dave. You sent a whiny email to admin. Are we supposed to pretend it didn’t happen? Sorry if you’re just realizing it’s a bad look.
Yep, sure did, Timmy, because I'm not going to let some condescending milquetoast comment slide. That happens too often. You count on it. This is one of those instances where an exception to civility is appropriate. You talk about owning your shit a lot, but you just try to deflect. You're a hypocrite.
I enjoyed Mark's thoughtful contributions to the thread topic. The knee-jerk nazi accusations and hostile tone directed at posters offering reasonable and civil counterpoints to the topic of discussion are what killed the thread, not the "trolling" with tacos. JMO Tacos rule
As stated a long time ago, when I was doing the push-up regimen, I could care less if you believe that I did them. I was doing them for my own benefit, not yours. That you are still hung up on them is just embarrassing.
As for work, we usually just discuss music. The incident at the Red Hen came up in discussion. I read a few of the posts in the beginning of the thread out loud. My employee responded that he felt Mark's comments were off base. They don't read the Zone.
anything that might affect Vivalazone.com/.org, Phil Lesh, his family or ‘Phriends’, or ‘ADMIN’ adversely or reflect negatively on our goodwill, name or reputation, or cause duress, distress or discomfort to us or anyone else.
Does anybody else find it ironic that TOD and Java Dave's aggressive insistence on the rules is exactly the position the Trump admin has taken on their heinous boarder policy?
Timmy were you the zoner who started a thread suggesting I'd been banned when I'd taken some me time away from the zone, or was that Java Dave? I got a few emails about it, checked the zone and no one had posted on the thread besides the O/P. Weird that someone I barely know on the zone would take the time to call me out here when they thought I couldn't respond. Anyhow, no harm done. I just thought it was rather chickenshit.
I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I had stopped doing push-ups by the time we hit those Portland shows. Since you're so hung up on it, I topped out at 582 consecutive push-ups. My family can attest to some of that, although no one witnessed anything beyond 300. It was a daily grind, and was a good physical and mental challenge. My parents came for a month-long visit in early December, and I gave up the workout because there wasn't enough time in the day between my responsibilities to my folks and my business. After they left, I was having a hard time with my left shoulder. Probably from doing 500+ push ups a day for weeks on end. I changed my workout.
>>>>I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I had stopped doing push-ups by the time we hit those Portland shows. Since you're so hung up on it, I topped out at 582 consecutive push-ups. My family can attest to some of that, although no one witnessed anything beyond 300. It was a daily grind, and was a good physical and mental challenge. My parents came for a month-long visit in early December, and I gave up the workout because there wasn't enough time in the day between my responsibilities to my folks and my business. After they left, I was having a hard time with my left shoulder. Probably from doing 500+ push ups a day for weeks on end. I changed my workout. <<<
Herbal Dave on Friday, October 27, 2017 – 01:25 pm
Anyhow, I just finished this morning's set, and threw one more on for Uncle Turtle. So that's 536, and barring getting sick, I should easily be well-past 600 by P-town TFB. If anyone wants to set up a 9:00 a.m. meet up at the Gasworks Park lookout point over Lake Union, I'd be glad to meet up and do a set for you there.
utahmountaingirl
jengc237 on Friday, October 27, 2017 – 01:58 pm
I guess I could take one for the team. Record and post it. ;)
After Jenn agreed to meet you there you quit posting in the thread and disappeared from the zone for months.
I sent a message to Admin using the contact tab on this page. I didn't use email. I don't have a copy of what I sent them, but the jist of it was pointing out that Mark was actively and brazenly trolling me, and inquiring if their position had changed regarding trolling. If they have a copy of what I sent, I don't care if they post it. It would actually be nice to hear Admin's input on all of this.
I know I don't pass the dress code , nor do have the qualifications to start a thread, but I totally agree with Dave and TOD. How Sherlock an Watson get away with their shit is beyond me. Its also funny how timmytimmeh doesnt see how snark is playing him. Dance puppet! Banned, emails, and still feel superior. I guess you think its funny? Do you like being judged?
Also- I would absolutely smack the taco out of Fuckabees hand.
>>>Because that's what St. Mark did to Herbal Dave.
I'm a pretty ruthless bastard when I counter-troll.
Pretty sure I'm at least partially responsible for a zoner quitting his job, selling all his belongings, joining a cult, and eventually becoming an Uber driver in San Francisco.
I believe you, Timmy. Sorry to bring up past BS, I guess it was all this talk about trolling etc that jogged my spotty memory. I should've just searched viva before making the accusation towards you, but I find the search function here to be a PITA. My bad :(
>>>>I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I had stopped doing push-ups by the time we hit those Portland shows. Since you're so hung up on it, I topped out at 582 consecutive push-ups. My family can attest to some of that, although no one witnessed anything beyond 300. It was a daily grind, and was a good physical and mental challenge. My parents came for a month-long visit in early December, and I gave up the workout because there wasn't enough time in the day between my responsibilities to my folks and my business. After they left, I was having a hard time with my left shoulder. Probably from doing 500+ push ups a day for weeks on end. I changed my workout. <<<
If you don't care why did you wake up and bump the thread with the fuck you post?
None of this are the actions of someone who doesn't care. I'm sorry you're so worked up. It's funny to read but I do sincerely hope you're okay.
If you don't care why did you wake up and bump the thread with the fuck you post? <<<<
Because I cared about contesting the intimation that the warnings you and Mark received were about "delicate sensibilities" when they were sent to remind you (once again) what the ground rules of engagement (allegedly) are here.
Hey RRG, I hope you, Mark, Dise, Todd, Timmy, Fly, Turtle, Ateix and anyone left still scrolling through this is not only doing okay, but that each and everyone of you has a most excellent day.
Sorry. I rarely even peek in there to read and have no socks there.
>>>>>>>Don't you have some chores to do.
Yeah, but it's pretty easy to post here while doing them. Got some Dad stuff to do with the kids. Swim lessons later. Being a good father and being there for your kids is a fulltime job but I still manage to do some zoning.
Mark, you, or anyone else here really, is more than welcome to drop in for a round of drinks on me and give me all the shit you want to in person.
It's just that here, we're not supposed to do that. Letting you off the hook for doing that, while I had to stand pat was a little like fighting an opponent who gets to use both arms while you've got one tied behind your back.
This thread (other than, fuck yeah, tacos!) is about what is acceptable in a given situation and the balance between civility and civil disobedience.
>>>>It's just that here, we're not supposed to do that.
Why don't you stand up for Thom? Guy gets shit on every time he posts something political. Liberal zoners attack him and his family personally all the time.
Who's tying your arms, Java Dave? I won't send emails to admin asking for "clarification" about anything, promise.
I've agreed not to troll you, and I've held up my end of the bargain. You continuing to whine at me makes me think you aren't ready to move on. What's the hold up?
I reread this thread just in case I was mistaken about who broke the code of conduct here first and this post seems to be the break from people having civil discourse regarding the topic.
Herbal Dave on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:55 am
Sorry, if you aren't okay with drawing a line against fascism, you are enabling it to fester and grow. Maybe if a few more Germans had stepped up and resisted the Nazis rise to power, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
No one answered my question. What's wrong with being intolerant of hatred, lies and, yes, fascism?
You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, otherwise you are just spineless and complicit.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were generalizing a bit but then you followed up with:
Herbal Dave on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:22 am
St. Mark Quisling.
So how were you "sitting pat" when you threw the first blows? It seems pretty ridiculous to me to accuse people of being nazi sympathizers/enablers then get butthurt and call in admin when they stand up for themselves. You seem like a nice guy but if you're going to drop troll bait all over the place, blow back is fair play . Make no mistake, since the inception of the internet, implying people who disagree with you in a civil conversation are in some way nazis is the epitome of troll bait, see Goodwin's Law.
I had to look up TDS. Seems real. It took me a long time to realize that people on this board actually think genocide is around the corner. They aren't using it as a metaphor or something.
I'm just saying that the rules are stated here, and that by trying to follow them while others were flaunting them with no repercussion was making for an unfair playing field. I choose to post here because I like the guidelines posted. I am trying to follow them. If the place devolves into something it's not advertised as I'm not interested. As for you personally, no, I have no grudge or beef I'm holding. I truly wish you well and hope you can find other ways to respond when someone challenges your convictions.
As for Thom's case, Slack, I stay on the sidelines on those threads. He's a grown adult and knows how to handle his own business.
You weren't following the rules though, Dave. It was an interesting conversation until the personal attacks were whipped out, and you were the poster who got that ball rolling.
Mark said something I disagreed with. I called him out on it. I wasn't trolling him, I was calling a spade a spade. If you want to talk butthurt, look at his reaction. He started getting into personal stuff that had nothing to do with the discussion.
I'm ready to let it all go as a learning experience for everyone. It's nice you're trying to stand up for your friend, I get that, but please.
Dude you flat out called him Quisling, what planet do you post from where that isn't deeply offensive? Mark doesn't need me to stand up for him, I'm commenting on your posts. The ones you typed out.
I'm not really taking sides here, just commenting on what's time stamped in black and white. I wish we could all just have a taco and maybe a beer.
Frankly, I can't stand SHS and was all for it until I read and considered Mark, Pyramid, and Saddler's posts. I agree with them after they challenged my knee-jerk reaction to the initial story which was pretty much "fuck her and the administration". If we can't be better than the opposition than we are just as bad as they are. Scarlet's post nailed it down further. Giving the trumpers more ammo resulted in blow back that's hurting her community.
We have to put the bitch slap on the hysterical wingnuts who casually throw around words like nazi and fascist at those of us who aren't willing to "go low".
Independent voters see that shit, and they hate it. Big picture, people. Let's get a handle on the far left, shut them the fuck up, and moderate towards the middle with some clear alternatives to Trump World.
Dan Rather:President Trump and the GOP bemoaning a lack of civility is a hypocritical farce. It spurs an almost uncontrollable bout of forehead slapping in disbelief.
But let's be clear about what incivility really looks like:
Incivility is lying to impugn the citizenship of the first African American president.
Incivility is threatening and mocking reporters and attacking the First Amendment protections of our free and independent press.
Incivility is destroying the environment and ignoring climate change.
Incivility is countenancing corruption and venality in the highest reaches of the White House and its cabinet.
Incivility is our government's response to Puerto Rico.
Incivility is undermining a merited investigation by respected law enforcement officials and maligning the notion of an independent judiciary.
Incivility is cozying up to dictators and attacking our allies and friends.
Incivility is ripping children - even those too young to know their parent's name - from immigrants legally claiming asylum.
Incivility is endeavoring to have millions of Americans lose their health insurance.
Incivility is creating a false equivalence between Nazis and counter protesters.
Incivility is using peaceful dissent from NFL players as a pretense for stirring the deep waters of racial injustice.
Incivility is using Twitter to lie and bully.
Incivility is just having the pathology to constantly lie in the first place.
Incivility is gas lighting your fellow citizens on issues big and small.
Incivility is trying to bar entry to the United States on account of religion.
Incivility is ignoring science and reason.
Incivility is trying to run roughshod over our constitutional protections.
These are but a few of the real incivilities that plague our moment in history. They are the actions of a man and his enablers who feel no compunction about destroying the bonds that have held this improbable nation together. We will only succeed if we have a civil society. And anything or anyone who attacks that cherished American ideal must be considered...uncivil.
Civil disobedience isn't easy, action should be well thought out before executed. IMO if the entire staff had walked off the job rather than serve SHS it would've left a more damning commentary on the administration and SHS. Employees get interviews offering their compelling reasons for risking their livelihood instead of leaving a target on the restaurant itself, a Big HR meeting the next week to reclaim valued employees, minimal collateral damage.20/20 grain of salt of course.
Let's try to reason with voters first - and not his base - 'cause that would also be foolish.
Let's reason with all those who did not vote, who voted for Bernie or the Green Party or who wrote people in. People who are moderate or independent. Those are the people you reason with.
Reason with Hitler? Makes a good headline - but hyperbole much?
Can anyone deny that Trump is a wannabe Dictator? And the GOP are doing nothing to prevent that.
He is following Hitler's playbook labeling brown people "animals", claiming they're infecting our country. Forcing Government employees to be loyal to him over Country. Advocating for denying Due Process of the Law and shitting on the Constitution...
He didn’t reverse it because he didn’t actually really reverse it. He claims to have but there is no way to actually verify it, and the reason he did anything was because the coverage was “poor optics”.
At this time, I would like to urge the most vocal of critics on either side of the numerous issues we as a country face to run for office and attempt to change the laws that irk you the most.
I respectfully disagree. The GOP are enabling Dictator Don 100 percent
Your link isn't reassuring at all, Emder. As far as Donnie is concerned every brown man woman and child is an animal. Which is why he has no problem putting them in cages...or as the Propaganda would have you believe "summer camps"
Let's reason with all those who did not vote, who voted for Bernie or the Green Party or who wrote people in. People who are moderate or independent. Those are the people you reason with.
As far as I can tell people aren't ready for that as long as they hang on to blaming voters rather than accepting the DNC was complicit in turning them off. People who didn't vote? Well, you have to give them someone to vote FOR is the elephant in the room. Frankly, I think HRC's VP choice was the nail in her centrist coffin. It was like she was getting off on forcing voters to hold their noses.
Had HRC chosen Bernie, Tulsi Gabbard, or even Warren, she would've had a massive landslide victory. It makes no sense to disregard uniting people who are mostly like-minded in favor of relying on fear to win an election. Instead, she went with milquetoast.
He could choose not to be an evil cocksucker and show everyone his mettle, Hill. Apparently, he relishes being a gigantic asshole over leading the nation in a new direction.
he's actually enforcing the law, period. so when obama was racking up record numbers of deportations, and the illegals were caged & wrapped in aluminum foil, those pictures that are being shown that says they're from trump era but most were from obama, no outrage back then? but now it's the most godawful thing ever?
MUNOZ: Attorney General Sessions announced a policy change. Now, if a parent comes in the United States with their child, even if they're fleeing for their lives, the policy of the United States is to separate that child from the parent no matter what the age (unintelligible).
INSKEEP: Is that different? Did you not do that in the Obama administration at all?
MUNOZ: No. The Obama administration did not do that. No, we did not separate children from their parents. This is a new decision, a policy decision, made by the attorney general which puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history. These - in many cases, these are people who are fleeing because of violence in their home country. The responsibility of the United States under the law is to determine who has a well-founded fear, who might qualify for political asylum. That's a hard job to do to sort out folks who might be economic migrants from folks who might be in danger. But our job is to make sure that we protect people who are in danger. What this administration has chosen to do instead is to terrorize these families in the hope that that terror will deter them from coming in the first place.
INSKEEP: Well, President Trump tweeted about this or appeared to tweet about this. There's a lot in the tweet. But there's one sentence in it, and it says, put pressure - put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from their parents once they cross the border into the U.S. Is there a law requiring the separation of parents from their children?
MUNOZ: No, there is not. The attorney general announced this policy not very long ago. This is the Trump administration's posture.
INSKEEP: John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, defended this policy on this program in an interview with NPR's John Burnett the other day. He was asked, isn't it cruel to take a mother from her children? And let's listen to some of what he had to say.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)
JOHN KELLY: The children will be taken care of - put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States. And this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long.
INSKEEP: A couple of parts there; first, put into foster care or whatever. Is the United States competent to do that?
MUNOZ: So that means more kids in the hands of HHS. This is not what HHS Office of Refugee Resettlement is for. They don't have the budget for this. And it is just outrageous to suggest that we can come up with decent care for kids when they're being separated from their parents, especially when we're talking about in many cases parents who have brought those children to save their lives. It's - I don't have words for how reprehensible that policy is.
INSKEEP: But let's talk about the other part of John Kelly's statement - the big point is they elected to come illegally. This is clearly an effort to deter people from coming at all, warning them this is a dangerous thing for you to do. Don't do it.
MUNOZ: But here's the thing. It is not illegal to approach the border and say, I want asylum. I fear for my life. The law actually provides for that. They are lumping folks who are essentially refugees in with illegal migrants. And it's not the same thing. In fact, it is legal to approach the border. These are not folks who are trying to evade our border authorities. They get to the border, and they look for the Border Patrol because what they're saying is I'm coming to the United States for refuge. And what we are doing is saying, fine, we'll take your children away.
Obama was still enforcing the law. The same law can be enforced without locking up people for misdemeanors and taking their kids. That’s the difference in policy.
i know you’ll say only 3% of those arrested and released by Obama showed up for court but that’s a lie. The number was 75%
Well if it was godawful then (and it was), why continue it? Policy isn't law. Grandstanding on evil for political gotchas when you can be the bigger man makes him all the shittier.
Not really, it boils down to decency and a decent leader doesn't use children as pawns for political gain like a hostile 3 year old. Rising above is an option, you know. One road I've yet to see trump administration take.
It's bad policy, period. The smart kids on the right (Ben Shapiro, etc.) know that.
We need to lean on our lawmakers to get something coherent, bi-partisan, and sustainable on the table. The soda can has been kicked down the road long enough.
In the meantime, yeah; don't separate kids from their parents. The fuck outta here with that. It's below us as a nation, regardless of the complexity of the issue(s).
not a trump fan at all. the saint is right about any solution to be proposed. no way would children be used by unsavory actors as a gimmick to help persuade immigration svcs to keep the family together in this country. don't have an issue with hispanics period as i usually interact with a fair number across the country on a daily basis. they're usually extremely polite & gracious, much more so than the white people i work with.
I'm enjoying the conversation almost as much as the slices and pint of Manny's I'm lunching on at the University Ave. Pagliacci. Would you believe today is their last day at this location after 40 years here? Progress, meh.
Decided I'm going to try to work up a greasy funky instrumental and call it "Soul Taco". Muy sabroso...
Is it the communities "best threads" because of content?
or the fact that it hit 500?
Hundreds Of Red Hen Gift Cards Are Being Donated To Veterans By Strangers
The Red Hen restaurant has come under attack by Trump supporters after the restaurant forced White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave its premise. Now, a bit of social good is coming from the small business that was viciously and falsely attacked by President Donald Trump for its level of cleanliness.
As you said in the 2nd post in this long ass thread.
>>> I thought the Right was completely insane for pretty much all of Obama's administration; now it's pretty clear the crazy is equally present on the Left.
Kicking somebody out of a resturrest because you don't like their politics? Check.
The issue wasn't Sarah Huckabee Sanders politics and even that she lies from the Podium daily.
She's been able to go out in public eat, drink and do her thing.
It's when the reports of newborns to 3 months were being separated from the mothers and young children being put into cages indefinitely.
This is where it became a moral not political stand.
>>>>>Is it the communities "best threads" because of content?
or the fact that it hit 500?<<<<<<
A little of column A a little of column B.
When zoners like Lance and Ender give an opinion in a thread like this it should be given some weight. Ender is almost a robot. He’s the least emotional and most analytical zoner there is. If he says you’re being a crybaby, you’re probably being a crybaby.
There’s some gems in here. Some good projection too. Like calling Mark, Ateix, and myself the three amigos when there was clearly more than 3 people that shared the same viewpoint while you, Fly, and Dave cried about being persecuted. The thread had politics, drama, conspiracy theories, banning threats, secret emails to admin, some healing, a few fuck yous, and some comedy. That’s the recipe for a good thread.
If you don’t like this sort of thread why are 50+ posts yours?
>> Ender - are we trying to equate what is happening now with what happened under the Obama admin or are you just throwing that out there?
Do you find 6000 children given to human traffickers and forced to work for 12 hours day on a egg farm equivalent to 12000 children being detained by HHS?
And we would still be in the same situation... Bernie was never going to be president. You can cry all the way to the grave --- it's just a simple fact. People need to get more educated on the REALITY of our political system -- not what they hope it to be. Spoiler alert: it's only getting worse, not better.
I've explained on more than one occasion what the 3 Amigo's means.
No projection at all.
You 3 huddle up when the "time-out" talk starts hence the 3 Amigos.
After in your own words of being here for 15 years, also being banned and timed out,.
St. Mark and Ateix have been banned and or timed out.
You KNOW where the line is.
Im pretty sure somebody else made a comment to the 1,2,3 attack earlier in the thread.
Yeah, it's up there.
>>> if you don't like this sort of thread why are 50+ posts yours?
Because this:
St. Mark (the lion)
"This has been a pretty solid thread hijacking, gang."
Also, because I give a shit to what is happening to OUR country.
I'm also sick of the fuckin' bullying and personal attacks that are taking away from the point which was Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave a restaurant.
I also will not stand for this bullshit dribble either.
"Independent voters see that shit, and they hate it. Big picture, people. Let's get a handle on the far left, shut them the fuck up, and moderate towards the middle with some clear alternatives to Trump World.
Where did you get the 6000 number from, still there is a huge difference in situations here, one being an obvious mistake and not intentional and the current situation where its NOT a mistake and absolutely intentional. Grasping at straws GOP propaganda BS.
And we would still be in the same situation... Bernie was never going to be president.>>>
Exactly right, pointing fingers won't help anything now.
>> The article even says that the number is exaggerated.
Did you misread "exacerbated" as "exaggerated"?
To make matters worse, an investigation published 19 June 2018 by McClatchy revealed that the figure was only a snapshot from a three-month period and the number of children who are unaccounted for by HHS is actually nearly 6,000. The figure is likely exacerbated by an April 2018 agreement that allows background check information, including immigration status, of caregivers like parents and relatives to be shared with immigration authorities.
>> 6,000 kids working on an egg farm? Really?
If snopes is "fake news" to you then we probably can't usefully communicate.
>> Exactly right, pointing fingers won't help anything now.
I agree. I was just calling out T.O.D.'s bullshit that this is about morals and not politics. He and the media got religion now because we are talking about Republicans.
Ender, your point is partially valid. The difference today is we have Sessions making jokes and still saying its a great idea and much of trumps base thinks its wonderful, in that aspect it is about morals and ethics.
Good morning all. Not too much time for this today as I am more interested in watching Sweden crush Mexico's World Cup hopes.
Just want to remind you that I don't have any emails to share. That's because I didn't receive any response to the message I sent in the contact admin link. No, the only ones who received emails were apparently the ones who were found guilty of crossing the line of what is acceptable here. That would be you, Timmy and Mark. So why don't you go ahead and post those emails?
I've already stated that I am okay with Admin posting what I sent them, and will restate that I welcome their participation in this thread. It would be a good forum for them to clarify what they feel is acceptable and how they would like to see their site function.
Now, back to Sweden raining on Mexico's Taco Party.
"Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, its radicalism approaches that of a constitutional amendment. Their new AUMF would subvert an article at the core of the Constitution, gutting a vital protection against tyranny devised by the Framers. It would authorize multiple existing wars without even debating them individually. It would empower Trump and his successors to unilaterally wage war in new countries, expand their ability to indefinitely detain prisoners without charges, and empower them to unilaterally kill individuals even inside the United States."
I'm on Cloud 9 right now, as Sweden destroyed El Tri 3-0, and Korea snuffed the Germans 2-0, so the Mexicans advance, and the defending world champs are gone-zo!
I will definitely be enjoying this day. Hope you all do to.
If you get a chance, check out the photos from Marseille I posted in the Stones Tour thread. Looks like an amazing venue. Hope we get on the ground reports from Tommy and Woz.
->while you, Fly, and Dave cried about being persecuted. 9:47
->You, Dave, and Fly carry on with the righteous indignation 10:47
Sorry "Dirt Sucker", I cant stand back and you mention my handle twice in an hour after I clearly wanted to leave it at a good place YESTERDAY @1:20 (if possible). Neither of your statements are accurate This is a prime example of your troll game. Its all you and Mark know how to do. If you and "smoking jacket" feel the heat, I suggest it is because you are realizing your shit is tired, played, and unfunny. I applaud those willing to speak up to you. Maybe admin wants the group to correct itself. If you are hurt by the truth , you and your lordship are free to leave - voluntarily this time.
If this were my restaurant, I'd kick you both to the curb with no tacos.
Wow JR. I had to look that up. That's not anything close to who I am, or I would hope for anyone on this board. That's just a horrible and ugly thing to say about people you don't know. You sir, have issues.
For anyone watching, here's the meaning from the Urban Dictionary of the hate speech JR just posted:
aka "involuntarily celibate", a person (usually male) who has a horrible personality and treats women like sexual objects and thinks his lack of a sex life comes from being "ugly" when its really just his blatant sexism and terrible attitude. incels have little to no self awareness; even when they see other "ugly" men with girlfriends, they consider these men to be tricksters who have somehow beat the system and can get women despite being cursed with unattractiveness (in other words, theyre respectful to women and women are attracted to their personalities, but incels cant comprehend such a phenomenon). they believe that women owe them sex, and many of the more extreme incels like to spend time in incel communities on the internet coming up with ways to make women have sex with them (often involving genocide of people of color, genocide of "Chads" (men who have sex), taking rights away from women, raping them, having sex with women's dead bodies, and other horrid, disgusting things. they cant understand that that is PRECISELY why women want nothing to do with them).
I’m pretty good with the nicknames. I admit the Dewitt comparison is kind of mean though. Dave’s not as crazy as her.
Being called an Incel is the kind of thing that a sex haver would laugh off and not make a big deal out of. At least that’s my take as a sex haver. If Dave’s a Volcel and not an Incel I apologize.
Again, Ateix, this thread is about civility, and when and when it is not appropriate to be incivil.
What part of JR's comment do you find to be apropriate for this discussion on this board with the groundrules stated as they are?
It was over-the-top ugly and offensive. Sure it's easy for little schmucks to laugh it off as "just joking", but it's not funny to me. That's just part of the troll game, and anyone who thinks it's cool to go there is displaying signs of a serious mental pathology. I guess there is no accounting for crazy, but there is a way to cut it off.
Sure, I'm a crybaby, because I let admin know there rules were being broken and was wondering if that was what acceptable here. If I was in the wrong, you'd think I was the one who would have gotten the email. I don't have any emails to post. Admin can post what I sent them. Mark and Timmy have been invited to share the emails they were sent. They haven't. Gee, wonder why?
But please, keep up with the name-calling and lashing out. It makes you seem so rational.
If someone called me that word I'd laugh it off....your comments over the years related to women and your relationships with them is the reason why I chose to say it. Must have hit home or you wouldn't have written paragraphs on a dbmb defending yourself and playing the victim.
Dave, if I ever post something that you feel is trolling or would prompt you to email or “contact” admin just tell me I’m hurting your feelings and I’ll leave the thread.
>>> Dave, if I ever post something that you feel is trolling or would prompt you to email or “contact” admin just tell me I’m hurting your feelings and I’ll leave the thread.
same for Fly and TOD or anyone else really. <<<
Instead of that, what about being just civil, kind, etc., throughout?
There were good topics to talk about here, I mean tacos, politics, tacos, but the name-calling and bickering flowed like vomit. Come on.
Don’t act like you or I have been in this thread? Because honestly I thought you were inferring people in this thread were dicks and just wondered who you were referring to.
As for JR. He's been posting agro, vindictive, bile-filled garbage towards me and others for years. I have no idea why Admin puts up with it. It doesn't seem to jibe with their mission statement.
I didn't just laugh it off, because I'm drawing the line. I have a mother, sister, female friends and relatives. I cherish each one of them and respect women. JR, not me, is the one posting threads like "How Much Porn Do You Watch" and discussing his exploits at the massage parlors. It's debasing to him and to this place.
I don't hold grudges against anyone. I want what's best for all of us. I hope all of us can continue to grow and be better people.
Dave, I think it should be pointed out again that you were the first to make a negative, insulting comment/troll post in this thread, directed at someone who was rationally & soberly expressing his serious opinion on a serious subject.
>> JR, not me, is the one posting threads like "How Much Porn Do You Watch" and discussing his exploits at the massage parlors.
I think you might be having your employees narrate the wrong message board to you. Are you sure you didn't accidentally ask them to read you posts from the 6arbagezone?
>>>FACT: Van Morrison wrote "Listen to the Lion" about St. Mark
True. He emails me pretty good dad jokes too.
>>>There were good topics to talk about here, I mean tacos, politics, tacos, but the name-calling and bickering flowed like vomit
I understand the piss matches aren't your style, J; but these are the threads that put up the big numbers. If people didn't like em, they couldn't flourish.
You can hope for a "better" world, even do all you can to make it real; but you can't change the fact that this is how how philzone has always been.
Anybody here can start a thread, anytime. The free market of ideas determines which ones succeed, and which ones fail. I've had plenty of both in my carreer here, so I feel like I'm qualified to offer my analysis.
I respectfully disagree with your view, Lance. What I said was directly pointed towards and in line with the subject being discussed.
I've never logged onto or read anything from that other site, other than what some of you have posted here. If that's the spirit of community you want to be a part of, feel free to go hang out there. Those were threads JR posted here.
When the old Zone shuttered, many high volume posters like Brick or Duke, recognized the new playing field we were entering and chose to log off. I respect their decision, whether it was because they didn't like the new rules or because they were bored and had moved on.
Seems like you aren't able to square some of what you post here with the reaction you get; and instead of owning that, you play the victim and require Admin to intervene for you under the auspicious of "understanding the rules". Then when the community reacts negatively to that, you double down and keep the narrative going by reengaging for days after everybody decides to move on from it.
I'm just trying to be respectful and of the place and others. I ain't perfect, but that's all I'm aiming for.
If the place is going to be allowed to devolve into unwarranted incivility and dickishness, color me gone.
I let my employee leave early so he and his girlfriend could catch the Robert Plant show, and will be too busy running the store to continue in this thread for now.
For the record, my girlfriend and I blew a couple hundred bucks at the strip club last weekend. No happy ending though :(....
P.s. Plf, thank you for the compliment. I put a lot of work into looking good and appreciate the validation. In fact, heading to the salon in a few to work on my base tan.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:13 pm
I thought the Right was
I thought the Right was completely insane for pretty much all of Obama's administration; now it's pretty clear the crazy is equally present on the Left.
Kicking somebody out of a resturrest because you don't like their politics? Check.
Refusing to make a gay couple a cake because you don't like their sexual orientation? Check.
Fucking idiots.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:20 pm
Nah fuck that. Anyone who
Nah fuck that. Anyone who works for this administration gets what they have coming to them. Unlike people who are born gay, she has a choice in representing and constantly lying for a piece-of-shit individual who is ruining our country’s standing in the world, treating foreigners like they are less than human and lying constantly to the people he represents.
Fuck her. I hope her, Stephen Miller and the rest of their fucked up crew get harassed in public wherever they go. They don’t give a shit about a very large portion of the citizens of our country and they deserve it back in spades.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:26 pm
The restaurant owner asked
The restaurant owner asked her staff if they wanted to serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders. They voted NO.
No shoes, no shirt, no morals, NO SERVICE.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:27 pm
Nope. The same logic that
Nope. The same logic that compels a person to kick somebody out of a restaurant for their politics compels a person to discriminate for other reasons.
Bigots of all stripes always think they have the high ground. That's how bigotry works.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:28 pm
Kicking somebody out of a
Kicking somebody out of a resturrest because you don't like their politics? Check. <<<< YES and Awesome ! THX Red Hen
resturrest <<< Ha Ha
Sarah Needs to Show Up at Trump N Sucks Diner Their Motto - Sorry No Refills
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:31 pm
A typo! Get himmmmm!
A typo! Get himmmmm!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:42 pm
I bet SHS can leave a buffet
I bet SHS can leave a buffet line looking like it's just been strafed by a squadron of Russian fighters.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 08:50 pm
http://www.diggersdiners.com
http://www.diggersdiners.com/diggersdiners.com/Home.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g32243-d856755-Reviews-Dig...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:09 pm
I’m definitely a bigot
I’m definitely a bigot towards the people who are currently running our country along with Chinese tourists. Guilty
These people who claim to be Christians are nothing but charlatans. I’m definitely intolerant of the majority of their ideas.
Hope I didn’t have any typos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:20 pm
>This threadhttps://media
>this thread
>https://media.giphy.com/media/gynUyj9pFZ5DO/giphy.gif
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:41 pm
Bucky, I appreciate your
Bucky, I appreciate your comment, but can't you see how slippery the slope is here?
I'll be candid and admit I'm not a fan of right wing people in general; but to throw somebody out of a restaurant for their politics definitely doesn't represent the kind of tolerance and intelligence that I've always associated with being liberal. In fact, I'd say it's the exact opposite.
The greatest trick Donald Trump has pulled on the country is lowering the bar of civility to a place where people who used to be reasonable actually cheer for shit like this. Fuck that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:43 pm
>Nope. The same logic that
>Nope. The same logic that compels a person to kick somebody out of a restaurant for their politics compels a person to discriminate for other reasons.
Lol, racists/bigots aren’t a protected class.
Zero tolerance for Nazis.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:48 pm
My argument isn't that they
My argument isn't that they're a protected class, Nancy.
My argument is for civility, and the crazy idea that kicking people you disagree with politcally out of restaurants is a lot closer to nazi shit than I'm comfortable with.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:53 pm
kicking Nazis out of the
kicking Nazis out of the restaurants isn’t close to anything.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:55 pm
Sanders is a Nazi. Got it.
Sanders is a Nazi. Got it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:55 pm
>>>The greatest trick Donald
>>>The greatest trick Donald Trump has pulled on the country is lowering the bar of civility to a place where people who used to be reasonable actually cheer for shit like this. Fuck that.
I see all of your points. Well put.
In all honesty, if I went through life with news blinders on my life hasn’t changed much of at all since Trump has been elected. But to me, he’s SUCH an over the top needlessly reckless idiot, whose supporters dig in deeper the more and more unhinged he gets, that it’s hard to remain civil. I shouldn’t have disdain for any percentage of fellow Americans but it’s definitely come to that.
Shitty
im gonna have a beer
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:58 pm
my bad. She’s NeoNazi. they
my bad. She’s NeoNazi. they have infested the White House.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 09:59 pm
It's Alt-Right Ma, I'm only
It's Alt-Right Ma, I'm only eating.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:02 pm
Lies.
Lies.
Lies about lying.
Treats people like shit.
Lies about treating people like shit.
Tomorrow or Monday she'll be lying about lying about treating people like shit.
#fakechristians
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:02 pm
She just scheduled a visit
She just scheduled a visit from ice
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:11 pm
>>>>>My argument is for
>>>>>My argument is for civility, and the crazy idea that kicking people you disagree with politically out of restaurants is a lot closer to nazi shit than I'm comfortable with.
they can't see that for what it is because of trump hatred. boggles the mind
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:11 pm
>>>>>My argument is for
xx double post xx
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:15 pm
What the hell is wrong about
What the hell is wrong about being intolerant of facism, hatred and lies? Those are the things we are not supposed to tolerate.
Good for the Little Red Hen. I look forward to dining there if I'm ever in Lexington.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:23 pm
Anyone who has ever worked in
Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant knows that they did her a favor by asking her to leave
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:27 pm
I think they're a "farm to
I think they're a "farm to table" restaurant, not a "shithole to table" joint, Nancy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:31 pm
This is the first time she
Exactly, which is why they asked her to leave.
This is the first time she was refused service, after the Trump regime started putting brown children in cages she can expect it to happen Again.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:35 pm
I agree that the moral high
I agree that the moral high ground (if there is such a thing anymore), would be not to have kicked her out, though it sounds like she wasn't kicked out, but asked to leave (wow, such distinctions). Personally they should have just asked her questions the entire time, with follow ups, and perhaps some fact checking by the dishwasher, who I'm sure is use to cleaning up other peoples shit...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, June 23, 2018 – 10:43 pm
https://www.washingtonpost
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/06/23/sarah-huck...
>..
It depends on how you view the child-separation policy. If you think the decision to separate children from parents as a means of deterring other asylum seekers is simply one more policy choice, like tax cuts or negotiations with North Korea, then, yes, screaming at political opponents is inappropriate. Such conduct is contrary to the democratic notion that we do not personally destroy our political opponents but, rather, respect differences and learn to fight and perhaps compromise on another day. If, however, you think the child-separation policy is in a different class — a human rights crime, an inhumane policy for which the public was primed by efforts to dehumanize a group of people (“animals,” “infest,” etc.) — then it is both natural and appropriate for decent human beings to shame and shun the practitioners of such a policy.
This exception to the rule of polite social action should be used sparingly (if for no other reason than we will never get through a restaurant meal without someone hollering at someone else). If a lawmaker, for example, who favors a harsh, ill-conceived immigration bill walks into a restaurant, I would not recommend raising a rumpus (though I would not invite that person to my home).
Listen, I get it. The notion of shunning or excluding or heckling can devolve into philosophical hair-splitting as to whether someone has engaged in normal public service or whether they’ve strayed outside the bounds of decent behavior. Each to his own method of expressing disdain and fury, I suppose.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:56 am
I have to agree with St. Mark
I have to agree with St. Mark on this one. It is a slippery slope and I'm afraid we have entered the steepest part of that slope and things will only accelerate for some time now.
Here is a realistic scenario that I would not be at all surprised happens soon and could easily be supported with some of the things mentioned above.
A mild mannered person who is sick of the Trump era has placed a Dump Trump bumper sticker on their car. The are driving through a rural area of the country that has strong support for the president. They look down at gas gauge and needs to get some fuel. They notice that a sign says last fuel for 70 miles. They pul in and the owner/worker of the station looks at the bumper sticker and lets the driver know that they don't serve those who denigrate the president. By the above reasoning, it should be "OK" to refuse them service.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:26 am
^^^ So is this scenario only
^^^ So is this scenario only in Jersey?
Most people use a credit card and pump their own gas never speaking to anyone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:29 am
^^^
^^^
The scenario is is a very rural area where pay at the pump technology might not exist, but I could extend the scenario a bit and say pay at the pump technology does exist and via, say, CCTV the proprietor shuts off the pump.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:31 am
And Oregon.
And Oregon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:37 am
It’s a fucking restaurant,
It’s a fucking restaurant, and you’re open to the public. You serve your damn customers, regardless of their political and/or social views. If that customer makes offensive comments while in your place of business, you then ask them to leave.
Sanders may be a piece of shit, but she has every right to be served in a public place. She should also expect that her food is free of spit or jizz.
What the hell has this country come to?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:46 am
She is complicit and no
She is complicit and no ordinary citizen. The Trump regime crossed a line when they started snatching babies and putting them in cages, and they're getting a taste of their own "moral" medicine.
Sanders has also defended the right's of restaurants refusing service to people they find morally objectionable. even going so far as to claim that putting up signs in restaurants "no gays served here" is fair game - you know, based on one's religious/moral convictions.
Fuck her right to dine in peace.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:48 am
Bottom line is they opened
Bottom line is they opened the door to a slippery slope by hiding behind their "religious convictions".
Example: Refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
Now these same people have issue with others refusing service based on moral conviction.
The difference here, is those being denied service have made a choice to lie to the public (every fucking day)
for a budding Authoritarian, they weren't born that way.
They don't like "States Rights" being turned on them either.
... do as I say, not as I do.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 09:55 am
So, you get back at them by
So, you get back at them by sinking to their level?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:02 am
Trumpist are suffering the
Trumpist are suffering the free market consequences of being Deplorable, but deplorables are not a
protected class.
Liberal women are under no social or moral compulsion to provide romance and sex to misogynistic men.
Honduran cooks are under no obligation to serve food to those who want to rip Central American kids out of their parents’ arms and put them in cages.
Cosmpolitan cities have no responsibility to create safe spaces for people who reject their values and want to gerrymander them out of representation in government.
They go low, we go high is viewed as weakness in their eyes.
The only thing that works is using their words and tactics against them,
while exposing their hypocrisy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:00 am
I>>>>>t’s a fucking
I>>>>>t’s a fucking restaurant, and you’re open to the public. You serve your damn customers, regardless of their political and/or social views. If that customer makes offensive comments while in your place of business, you then ask them to leave.
This.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:02 am
Poor people are rejected by
Poor people are rejected by cosmopolitan cities.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:05 am
^poor people are welcomed to
^poor people are welcomed to sleep on the sidewalks and eat from the trash cans
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:13 am
i own a restaurant and would
i own a restaurant and would not ask her to leave. would i like serving her? not necessarily....but i'd be professional.
fuck her, yes. but i also wouldn't ask HRC or Bill Clinton to leave, fuck them as well. gross people.
now if steven miller walked in wearing his white supremacist gear, i'd ask that mother fucker to leave real quick.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:14 am
The far edges of the
The far edges of the conservatives movement often fantasize about a second civil war with the American left,
imaging multi-racial shock troops coming to rural areas to extract taxes and confiscate guns,
facing a local insurgency with a rifle behind every duck blind.
But that Red Dawn scenario has no bearing to a plausible dystopian reality.
The real situation is the reverse:
Conservatives want the social and economic benefits that come from ecumenical urbanism, but they want to retain the deep bigotries and social privileges that come from provincialism. They want the right to enact zoning and social policies that discriminate against protected class minorities in their own communities, but they want not to suffer the cultural consequences of those views in liberal cities.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/06/23/trumpists-are-suffering-the-fre...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:15 am
You cannot claim to be open
You cannot claim to be open and tolerant while discriminating and not being inclusive - it does not work.
Both sides of the aisle are deplorable on this.
This is how and why we lost civility - and it will be hard to ever get it back when people go around tit for tatting.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:21 am
>>> i own a restaurant and
>>> i own a restaurant and would not ask her to leave. would i like serving her? not necessarily. .
Would you serve Stephen Miller plain clothed?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:23 am
Pyramid, off subject a bit,
Pyramid, off subject a bit, but the other day i was i a diner and noticed a guy wearing his MC club patch, a one percenter MC club. Would you serve this man? Ask him to leave?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:24 am
Does anyone remember MC 900
Does anyone remember MC 900 Foot Jesus: https://youtu.be/3KB54p8_wh8
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:25 am
a one percenter motorcycle
a one percenter motorcycle club patch? sure...? is it some type of secret nazi patch?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:28 am
Sort of, pyramid, he was a
Sort of, pyramid, he was a Pagan. The Pagans have connections with the Aryan Brotherhood.
You're from philly, so I'm sure you are familiar with the Pagans
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:29 am
>>> This is how and why we
>>> This is how and why we lost our civility - and it will be hard to get it back when people go around tit for tatting.
Make no mistake this isn't tit for tat.
Never been that way for the religious extremist ie: States Right, "Religious Convictions"...
If you think this is anything less than the fight for the SOUL of our Democracy,
you've already surrendered.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:32 am
If you think this is how we
If you think this is how we solve the divide
the divide wins
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:36 am
Ogkb (pyramidheat) -
Ogkb (pyramidheat) -
Steven Miller, Richard Spencer, Steve Bannon and Milo Yiannopoulos walk into your restaurant, do you seat and serve them?
or
Do you politely ask them to leave?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:36 am
Hispanic people will not work
Hispanic people will not work for conservative voters anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:39 am
You serve them “special sauce
You serve them “special sauce” lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:44 am
i'm not asking anybody to
i'm not asking anybody to leave; if they bring hate symbols and/or hate speech into my joint, that's different, and absolutely they're being told to leave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:44 am
6 - We're waaay past that.
6 - We're waaay past that.
You might not be, but this is the reality of the situation.
It's been going this way for a couple decades and they're counting on you to keep your views.
Meanwhile they march forward with their agenda.
It's not by accident that the extremist minority has risen to power to take over all 3 Branches of our Government.
It's by design.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:49 am
Thanks, pyramid. Is the
Thanks, pyramid. Is the patch hate symbol enough?
It is for me. I split and went to a different restaurant.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:50 am
is it a hate symbol? then yes
is it a hate symbol? then yes.
sorry, i'm not up to date on all the hate symbols.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:52 am
You're from philly?
You're from philly?
Not familiar with the Pagans?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:54 am
>>> i'm not asking anybody to
>>> i'm not asking anybody to leave; if they bring hate symbols and/or hate speech into my joint, that's different, and absolutely they're being told to leave.
Dude, their faces are known throughout the WORLD as symbols of hate.
So if they don't wear the symbols... KKK, swastikas etc.
it's cool?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:55 am
Sorry, if you aren't okay
Sorry, if you aren't okay with drawing a line against fascism, you are enabling it to fester and grow. Maybe if a few more Germans had stepped up and resisted the Nazis rise to power, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
No one answered my question. What's wrong with being intolerant of hatred, lies and, yes, fascism?
You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, otherwise you are just spineless and complicit.
The Jews, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses and Homosexuals of Europe in the 1930s-40s tried the civility route. Guess what happened to them?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:56 am
i am. should i know all their
i am. should i know all their hate symbols? lol. yeah man they're a fucked up gang.
i am sure i have served white supremacists before. no, i don't want to.
pretty sure i've stood in line at john's roast pork w/ pmc standing in front of me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:03 am
>I am. should i know all
>I am. should i know all their hate symbols?<
He was wearing his Pagan patch, sitting with a couple other guys. No need for a deep understanding of one percenter culture to know who the guy was.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:05 am
I guess with some people
I guess with some people their bottom line is more important than their moral convictions.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:07 am
So much grasping at straws.
So much grasping at straws. Cringy af.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:10 am
lol, tod. that's great.
lol, tod. that's great.
god dammit i said i'd serve HRC, aren't you happy?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:12 am
I bet it feels "Cringy AF"
I bet it feels "Cringy AF" for you Ateix.
Intelligent thought with fact isn't your strong suit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:18 am
>>> lol, tod. that's great.
>>> lol, tod. that's great.
god dammit i said i'd serve HRC, aren't you happy?
We frequent Vermont at least once year.
What did you say the name of your restaurant is?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:18 am
>>>you think this is
>>>you think this is anything less than the fight for the SOUL of our Democracy
Spoken like a true fanatic. Those kind of statements ring the same bell the zealots on the extreme religious right were banging on in the 90's.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:19 am
Your dome is full of
Your dome is full of theoretical shit that never comes into play. That's the extent to which you can demonstrate resistance to a shitty administration? Cringy as fuck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:22 am
St. Mark Quisling.
St. Mark Quisling.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:26 am
Would you sell Sanders a used
Would you sell Sanders a used CD from your used CD store, Java Dave?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:29 am
it's a dairy queen, tod. i am
it's a dairy queen, tod. i am sure you can find it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:42 am
Here's some more theoretical resistance.
Merriam - Webster
Definition of Fascism
1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
^^^Is this theoretical or the current state of our Government?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:42 am
>it's a dairy queen, tod. i
>it's a dairy queen, tod. i am sure you can find it. <
Ice cream, the great unifier...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:44 am
Good question Mark. I don't
Good question Mark. I don't ID people who walk in, so to me she would just be another customer. If she started ranting some crazy shit or acting agro, I would ask her to leave, as I have asked others who were out of line or just having a bad day. Otherwise my objective is to hopefully connect the consumer with a piece of music or cinema (we sell a lot more than just "used cds") that elevates their consciousness. The arts can be a healing experience. Cuisine can be too.
I may take a different approach, but I support the rights of an owner to not serve someone they have ethical differences with.
What part of "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" are you not getting?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:45 am
We should all do what Tod is
We should all do what Tod is doing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:50 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:54 am
>>>Good question Mark. I don
>>>Good question Mark. I don't ID people who walk in, so to me she would just be another customer. If she started ranting some crazy shit or acting agro, I would ask her to leave, as I have asked others who were out of line or just having a bad day. Otherwise my objective is to hopefully connect the consumer with a piece of music or cinema (we sell a lot more than just "used cds") that elevates their consciousness. The arts can be a healing experience. Cuisine can be too.
I was just trolling you, Java Dave. Nobody buys used CDs anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:55 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:02 pm
>>> it's a dairy queen, tod.
>>> it's a dairy queen, tod. i'm sure you can find it.
It's not a Dairy Queen, but it's cool, we'll be sure to look you up Chef.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:03 pm
Look them up on facebook Tod.
Look him up on facebook, Tchod.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:05 pm
Of course you were, that's
Of course you were, Mark, that's all you 're good for. Very Trumpian of you. While you get points for acknowledging your inner troll, you still need to face up to that fascist-enabler inside of you.
It's funny how you're always cozying up to the millenials, yet the millenial working for me yesterday read what you were posting in this thread and thought you were either ignorant or full-of-shit.
As for your wildly inaccurate conjecture, I've got $800 in my pocket from yesterday that says otherwise.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:07 pm
$800 day on a Saturday? Yikes
$800 day on a Saturday? Yikes. Hope you don't have a lot of overhead.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:08 pm
"I actually thing there's a
"I actually thing there's a big difference between one of the most powerful people in the world, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, using her official government platform to claim victim status when what she's doing is trying to distract from the way the Administrations' policies are actually victimizing some of the least powerful people on the planet - refugee children. There's a difference being discriminated against for who you are and being judged for what you do. And that's what we saw" - Heather McGhee
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:17 pm
>>>Of course you were, Mark,
>>>Of course you were, Mark, that's all you 're good for. Very Trumpian of you. While you get points for acknowledging your inner troll, you still need to face up to that fascist-enabler inside of you.
Yes. I'm actually growing out a Hitler mustache.
>>>It's funny how you're always cozying up to the millenials, yet the millenial working for me yesterday read what you were posting in this thread and thought you were either ignorant or full-of-shit.
I bet. The kid making $13 and hour at your used CD store is no doubt an accomplished social critic offering bleeding edge insights on the people who make fun of his boss on the internet.
>> As for your wildly inaccurate conjecture, I've got $800 in my pocket from yesterday that says otherwise.
Damn, baller. Looks like you're all lined up for another twofer at Men's Warehouse.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:19 pm
Not really. Overhead's not
Not really. Overhead's not too bad, but it's part of doing business.
That's a solid day, Saturday or otherwise. Some of my fellow entrepreneurs in the U-District were moaning that they were slow (it's Pride weekend here, and most of the activities surrounding that are happening in a different neighborhood), but we had a good crowd yesterday. I don't really get rich doing what I do, though. It pays the bills and hopefully contributes something positive to my neighborhood, and for the most part, I enjoy it. Somewhat of a labor of love, but I'm not alone in that. You should give it a try some day, if you can make the numbers work.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:21 pm
actually the pious one is
actually the pious one is spot on with his analysis
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:21 pm
Mark is transparently showing
Mark is transparently showing his inner-Trump in this thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:25 pm
His inner-Trump!
His inner-Trump!
Let's be real, Java Dave. I trolled the shit out of you while Obama was in office, too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:28 pm
Minimum's $14/hour here right
Minimum's $14/hour here right now. The kid questions stupid shit I say too.
He just thinks you're ignorant, and missing the point.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:30 pm
Hmmm, thought trolling was a
Hmmm, thought trolling was a no-no here?
Judit, Makaha, Hey Davey, are you going to draw the line?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:33 pm
$14/hr isn't a liveable wage
$14/hr isn't a liveable wage in Seattle.
http://www.seattlemag.com/article/what-constitutes-livable-wage-city
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:33 pm
$14/hr isn't a liveable wage
What to do when you're getting owned by St. Mark on the zone:
1.) Call him a fascist
2.) Make up an offline person to validate your losing position
3.) Cry for admin
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:40 pm
Java Dave- 7
Java Dave- 7
Mark- 3
Keep up the good work JD.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:42 pm
I lost points for the Hitler
I lost points for the Hitler mustache, didn't I?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:42 pm
Actually I take it back.
Actually I take it back. Crying to admin is never a good look JD. I try hard to defend you but you make it difficult.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:44 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:47 pm
Yeah, sure man. I'm just
Yeah, sure man. I'm just living high on the hog in my mansion on the hill.
Minimum goes to $15 next year. Still won't be enough to get by for most in this overheated market. Many small businesses have cut and will continue to cut employee hours to try to cover costs. It's not a healthy recipe. For the first time in my life, I wouldn't be surprised to see class warfare occur.
Those are issues I have to consider daily.
When are you going to consider that you don't need to be such a 24/7 douche?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:49 pm
>> Hmmm, thought trolling was
>> Hmmm, thought trolling was a no-no here?
Lol, you copped the title for this thread from a convo where I was literally asked what percentage black I am, and whether my dad was in the picture. Don't be such a softie, Java Dave.
Anyway, good to see Tod keeping up the fight. #Resist!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 12:51 pm
>>>When are you going to
>>>When are you going to consider that you don't need to be such a 24/7 douche
I'm not the guy paying my employees a substandard wage. I'm also not the guy advocating throwing people I disagree with out of restaurants.
Just sayin'.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:03 pm
>>> I'm not the guy paying my
>>> I'm not the guy paying my employees a substandard wage. I'm also not the guy advocating throwing people I disagree with out of restaurants.
Just sayin'.
Attack the messenger > Backing the fascist regime.
Raging first set opener St. Mark.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:05 pm
What does Miriam-Webster have
What does Miriam-Webster have for 'virtue signaling?'
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:05 pm
Feel free to take notes, TOD.
Feel free to take notes, TOD.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:05 pm
Maybe the onus should be on
Maybe the onus should be on the establishment to post their philosophies:
”We proudly support and employ people of all races, nationalities, languages and gender identities. If you disagree with our philosophies, perhaps this establishment isn’t for you.”
or
”Our religious and political beliefs are that gender and marriage is one man, one woman, and that people in this country should speak English. If you disagree, perhaps this establishment isn’t for you.”
Let the patrons decide.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:08 pm
Just pointing out the rules
Just pointing out the rules of engagement here.
If you're going to resort to trolling, you should take it elsewhere. I'm sure there are other places to work through your attention issues.
My crew enjoy their work and seem to like their jobs. They are making more from me as entry-level part-time employees than I was making as a full-time buyer on the world's busiest buy counter at the Amoeba Music in Hollywood. If I could, I would pay them more. It worries me that the costs of doing business could negate doing business. Like I said, not a healthy situation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:16 pm
Java Dave, you realize people
Java Dave, you realize people have access to read this thread real time, right?
I only ask because there's nothing more pathetic than a zoner who attempts to troll another zoner, and then cries foul when they get their shit pushed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:43 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:47 pm
i say fuck her.
i say fuck her.
i get the slippery slope deal.
but fuck that lying treasonous piece of shit.
get out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:50 pm
I haven't trolled you at all.
I haven't trolled you at all. I'm not the one bringing up impertinent personal information at an attempt to unnerve. That's you pal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:52 pm
It really bugs you that I got
It really bugs you that I got close to 600 doesn't it, Timmy? LOL
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:56 pm
Huh? Close to 600 what?
Huh? Close to 600 what? Shoulder hairs?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:57 pm
<<<>>>It's not a Dairy Queen,
<<<>>>It's not a Dairy Queen, but it's cool, we'll be sure to look you up Chef.
cool man-i said we serve assholes, so feel free to introduce yourself and have a seat.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 01:57 pm
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/GovMikeHuckabee/status/1010497564435730434
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:01 pm
^^^^"spark of divinity"^^^^^
^^^^"spark of divinity"^^^^^
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:09 pm
>>>I haven' trolled you at
>>>I haven' trolled you at all.
Not effectively, no.
>>>I'm not the one bringing up impertinent personal information at an attempt to unnerve.
Right. You're the guy throwing around accusations of treachery and fascism enabling because i don't support throwing people out of restaurants.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:14 pm
The face tats on that kid in
The face tats on that kid in the back are approaching carnival attraction levels.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:16 pm
Sarah is a big girl and can
Sarah is a big girl and can handle that. Its also the restaurant's owner right to refuse service to anyone (as long as its not based on a protected status and working for Trump is not).
That being said, there is a growing feeling of intolerance from the left on anything having to do with Trump that reminds me of the wacky way the right wingers hated everything and anything having to do with Obama. For example, I heard that there was some late night comedy host who recently wished a recession upon America just to hurt Trump's chances at a second term. I despise Trump and his megalomania as much as the next guy, but to wish ill will on America to get at Trump is really cutting off your nose to spite your face. Reminds me of how the right wing was furious when Obama got the Nobel peace prize and cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics bid. There are many, many reasons that Trump and his policies are a shameful embarrassment to this country, but the critics really need to stay focused on substance and not let raw emotion and blind rage dictate the debate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:43 pm
The "rage" isn't "blind."
The "rage" isn't "blind."
Your false equivalence might be, tho.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 02:51 pm
Weird Steve - That pic from
Weird Steve - That pic from the Gov. Mike Huckabee tweet, originated from Richard "Nazi Punch'd" Spencer's website.
Where he's the President and Director.
https://www.nationalpolicy.institute/
Apparently he's welcomed in at least 1 restaurant in Vermont.
Just sayin'.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 04:30 pm
Nobody buys used CDs anymore.
Nobody buys used CDs anymore. <<,
I Sure Do On Occasion
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 04:48 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 04:55 pm
Tchod, do you have some kind
Tchod, do you have some kind of developmental disability? Serious question.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 04:57 pm
Poor Ana Navarro. She likes
Poor Ana Navarro. She likes to shit on stay-at-home-moms because her womb is a barren wasteland of sadness.
Enjoy your cats.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:00 pm
can I get someone to
can I get someone to Trumpslain that one ^
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:02 pm
>>>>Nobody buys used CDs
>>>>Nobody buys used CDs anymore
At 50 cents to $2 a pop, its the best musical bang for your buck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:13 pm
>>>can I get someone to
>>>can I get someone to Trumpslain that one
I can help, Nancy. See, Ana Navarro is a republican strategist who made a comment in 2013 about how stay-at-home-moms "lean back on a rocking chair with a mint julep"; because, ya know, she doesn't have any children of her own and never will.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2013/06/04/nbc-rino-stra...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:21 pm
Wait, stay at home Moms aren
Wait, stay at home Moms aren't allowed to drink Mint Julep's? What about stay at home Dads?
Nice cherry picking on her statements though. Cheers!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:28 pm
Not according to Ana, no.
>>>Wait , stay at home Moms aren't allowed to drink Mint Julep's? What about stay at home Dads?
Not according to Ana, no.
I believe she was implying stay-at-home-moms aren't accomplished, hard working women like herself.
>>>Nice cherry picking on her statements though. Cheers
Oh, there's a lot more hits from your girl Ana Navarro. Key player for Jeb Bush for the past 20 years.
Please tell me you knew who she was before you picked the meme?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:35 pm
At 50 cents to $2 a pop, its
At 50 cents to $2 a pop, its the best musical bang for your buck.<<<
I Don't Collect Clown CDs at that Price .... Some are $4.99 to 6.99 The Horror ! Not !! Collecting CDs is one Of The Wonders Of The World - I Will Do It Till I Die.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 05:52 pm
No, never heard of her before
No, never heard of her before. never heard of George Will either. Lol.
She’s been a critic of Trump’s policies for 2 years now. and she’s been spot on. Now go cherry pick some previous George Will statements that we all disagree with and are totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:01 pm
Naw. Naw only orders you get
Naw. The only orders you get to give are for another mint julep, Nanc.
I'm honestly disappointed. You should never be outflanked by me in a political discussion, but here we are. Do some research before you go meme'n next time. Come to think of it, we had that whole thing with Kanye West quoting that feminist who misquoted Tubman last month too, didn't we?
Crazy times. Enjoy your drink.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:12 pm
You can diss Anna all you
You can diss Anna all you want, but what she's saying now is relevant and she's been kicking ass.
> that whole thing with Kanye West quoting that feminist who misquoted Tubman last month too, didn't we?
No we didn't. I think you must be drunk. Or just too worked up trying to be a Trump apologist.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:20 pm
Wrong. I'll link the Kanye
Wrong. I'll link the Kanye thread when I sober up from all these mint juleps, Nanc.
In the meantime, enjoy your association with the slightly more moderate wing of the republican party; who openly mock women like you. Like i said, crazy times.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:24 pm
She didn’t mock women like me
She didn’t mock women like me, Mark.
I have never been a stay at home mom, not that there’s anything wrong with that. or drinking Mint Juleps.
Focus, man.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:40 pm
Please tell us more about
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:44 pm
My bad. I never knew you had
My bad. I didn't know you had a job. I thought your thing was bulk shopping at Costco, juggling, and progressive politics. Sincere apologies.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 06:53 pm
It’s sweet that you’re
I do appreciate you advocating for stay at home Moms though, Mark. is your wife one? Do you help her with the grocery shopping?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 07:13 pm
I don't do much, Nanc.
I don't really do much, Nanc.
Most of my free time is devoted to trolling Java Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 07:38 pm
My buddy was a stay at home
My buddy was a stay at home dad. Now makes 6 figures
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 07:46 pm
I have a buddy who has the
I have a buddy who has the same situation, Turtle. Nothing wrong with staying home with your children.
I bet Ana Navarro calls her cats "fur babies".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 07:51 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:02 pm
Mark, did you just hack my
Mark, did you just hack my facebook account?
Whoever did it, that's some weak ass bullshit.
I'm asking Admin to clarify their position on trolling. Mark is actively trolling me in this thread. He has stated so many times. Are you all going to allow that? Have the rules of engagement here changed?
I'm asking for some clarification.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Vt Crow Jimbojenkins
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:10 pm
Imagine if Obama or one of
Imagine if Obama or one of his high profile officials was denied a meal from a farm to table restaurant because of his cozy stance with Monsanto, and it made national news. It might of actually highlighted the issue and his failure to do anything to protect the public from their enormous grasp as a corporation on the world food supply.
Who cares Sara Sanders didn’t get a meal? She is the face and voice defending these narcissistic, inhumane pieces of shit. In this case it highlights the deep anger people have toward this administration and their lack of basic human decency. It’s not for nothing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: the new, new mighty Quinn esquimaux
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:15 pm
>>Have the rules of
>>Have the rules of engagement here changed?
LOL. Rules?
Admin: "You boys play nice. Don't make me stop this thread and turn around."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:18 pm
Yes, Java Dave. I'm trolling
Yes, Java Dave. I'm trolling you from a secret location which may or may not be located deep within the Trump International hotel.
The
presidentführer has given me access to special Russian trollware, which gives me the ability to hack into the Facebook accounts of small business owners in order to spread fascist propaganda brainwashing people into being more civil and less reactionary when they think about throwing people out of their chicken restaurants.I also have a little cage full of
childrenillegal immigrants who do the really dicey IT work, and keep me pumped full of motorboat and Nicaraguan coffee so I can do this shit 24/7, like a boss.Great thread, btw. Your best in a while, I think.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:18 pm
Jesus, Dave. Embarrassing.
Jesus, Dave. Embarrassing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 08:33 pm
>>>Mark, did you just hack my
>>>Mark, did you just hack my facebook account?
Whoever did it, that's some weak ass bullshit.
thats fucked up. you should really post some screen shots of the hack, please.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:31 am
>>> Mark, did you just hack
>>> Mark, did you just hack my facebook account?
Whoever did it, that's some weak ass bullshit.
I'm asking Admin to clarify their position on trolling. Mark is actively trolling me in this thread. He has stated so many times. Are you all going to allow that? Have the rules of engagement here changed?
I'm asking for some clarification.
Damn that's fucked up Dave.
Especially due to the timing of it and what's been going on in this thread.
Definitely weird.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:53 am
>>>>>Mark, did you just hack
>>>>>Mark, did you just hack my facebook account?
Whoever did it, that's some weak ass bullshit.<<<<<
lol, Incel Dave has gone full Dewitt.
Fucking old people and technology. A perfect comedy mix.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:02 am
Fucking young people and
Fucking young people and civility. They don't mix at all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:12 am
Pretty sure Mark didn’t hack
Pretty sure Mark didn’t hack his Facebook, Surfdead. He probably got some malware from all the porn he watches.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:20 am
>>> Pretty sure Mark didn't
>>> Pretty sure Mark didn't hack his Facebook, Surfdead.
Still pretty fucking weird whether or not he did, giving the timing and everything.
Just sayin'
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:24 am
Lolol
Lolol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:27 am
Not saying he did.
Not saying he did.
Just tired of all the isms that get flung too often here. Racism and sexual orientationism are usually frowned upon here (and rightly so). Sexism gets a bit of a pass sometimes, unfortunately, and ageism is rampant.
It's OK to harass folks for what they do - it's usually just rude. Not OK to harass them for what they are.
Pretty much just like the parameters that should apply when transacting business at a cake shop or firewood vendor.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:30 am
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/06/25/filmmaker-david-lynch-be...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:38 am
>>>>>>It's OK to harass folks
>>>>>>It's OK to harass folks for what they do
Like making their employees read St Marks posts on Viva?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:39 am
Here's an "ism" that can't be
Here's an "ism" that can't be just swept under the rug, unless you support Fascism.
I didn't say fashion, I said Fascism.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:43 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ep6YVqc6Ks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:49 am
I'm a little late to this
I'm a little late to this party but ill say to Mark and others -- racism, lies, propaganda and the need to keep a insane con man in the oval office isn't politics.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:50 am
Very good post, Surf. Cuts
Very good post, Surf. Cuts through the bullshit and gets right down to the truth.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:52 am
Mar-a-Filth
Mar-a-Filth
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:52 am
Ageism. Lol
Ageism.
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 09:54 am
Surf and 6 tackling those
Surf and 6 tackling those hard hitting issues.
Be best!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:00 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:02 am
Lol!
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:05 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:10 am
>> ageism is rampant.
>> ageism is rampant.
>> It's OK to harass folks for what they do - it's usually just rude. Not OK to harass them for what they are.
Give me a fucking break. You old folks are a legally protected class. So sue if you are being harassed or discriminated against.
But if you just can't take a good ball busting, you're in the wrong place.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:10 am
Ateixism lol
Ateixism
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:13 am
where is that italian fascist
where is that italian fascist jacket explanation quoted from?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:17 am
Perhaps my favorite part of
Perhaps my favorite part of this thread is seeing people who are normally at loggerheads with each other agreeing with each other that this action isn't such a great idea. Gives me hope for the future and brings a tear to my eye.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:24 am
That's not really happening
That's not really happening in this thread but yeah....sure....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: W. Claude Dukenfield Mulemuzik
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:28 am
“He could go down as one of
“He could go down as one of the greatest presidents in history because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way,” Lynch said.
Lynch added that Trump has shown that there could be a space for political outsiders to move the country forward.
“Our so-called leaders can’t take the country forward, can’t get anything done. Like children, they are. Trump has shown all this,” he told the newspaper
>> Wow, first Kanye and now David Lynch.
A lot of film students must be waking up and crying in their coffee.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:35 am
>>> where is that italian
>>> where is that italian fascist jacket explanation quoted from?
It was on Twitter.
Every one of the points mentioned can be individually fact checked on google.
It ALL checks out as fact.
See for yourself.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:35 am
https://www.bostonglobe.com
https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/2018/06/22/there-are-accidents-mel...
>..The president chimed in after the initial uproar, claiming that his wife wore the jacket to taunt the “fake news media.” But given that Mrs. Trump has never shown animosity toward the press the way her husband has, that interpretation feels empty. Others have speculated that the message was intended for her husband. There’s also a chance that it was meant for the families she was visiting.
“It’s a jacket. There was no hidden message,” said her spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham.
Grisham was right. There was no hidden message. There are no hidden messages in fashion. Everything we wear is deliberate, even if we’re trying to deliberately show that we don’t care. We wear clothes that we think are professional, flattering, sexy, comfortable, or formal, and we do it with purpose. We advertise bands, brands, sports teams, and political leanings. We dress for funerals, weddings, school, and the beach, and we think about all of it — even the flip-flops.
That’s why it’s nearly impossible to view Mrs. Trump’s Zara jacket as an afterthought. The first lady is a woman who understands the power of clothes, and unless the jacket was placed on her while blindfolded, she was sending a message. We’ll likely never know what the true message was. All we really know is that the chilly, detached “I really don’t care, do u?” felt like a slap to an already bruised and divided national psyche...
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/21/1774318/-Zara-Brand-That-Made...
https://overland.org.au/2018/06/a-brief-fascist-history-of-i-dont-care/B... Tiso
>This article was sparked by the jacket that Melania Trump wore as she travelled to a detention camp for migrant children, but my intent isn’t to argue that she or her staff chose that jacket in order to send a coded message to the president’s far-right followers. It is, rather, to highlight some of the historical echoes of that phrase – ‘I don’t care’.
The echoes of which someone ought to have been aware, especially in an administration that includes – to put it mildly – several far-right sympathisers. And also to show that the attitude, the theatrical ‘not caring’, was an explicit character trait of Fascism.
Which, at the very least, seems a troubling coincidence.
Fascism lay its roots in the campaign for Italy’s late entry in the First World War, of which Mussolini was one of the leaders. It was at this time that the phrase ‘me ne frego’ – which at the time was still considered quite vulgar, along the lines of the English ‘I don’t give a fuck’ – was sung by members of the special force known as arditi (literally: ‘the daring ones’) who volunteered for the front, to signify that they didn’t care if they should lose their lives.
The arditi were disbanded after the war, but many of them volunteered in 1919 for an expedition led by the poet Gabriele D’Annunzio to capture the city of Fiume (Rijeka, in present-day Croatia) and claim it for Italy during the vacuum created by the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire. At the time of this occupation, former arditi also formed the backbone of the original Black Squads during the terror campaigns that began in 1919 and culminated with the ‘March on Rome’ of 1922, which completed Fascism’s swift rise to power.
This lapel pin worn by an original member of the Black Shirts was recently sold on a website devoted to military memorabilia. It is emblazoned with the words ‘Me ne frego’ underneath the original symbol of the arditi and the acronym FERT (which stands for the motto of the Royal Family). The seller calls it ‘bellissimo’.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:42 am
No hidden message. Right..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 10:55 am
https://www.snopes.com/fact
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-swastika-logo/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:06 am
Good one Ender.
Good one Ender.
I see you're up to your great sleuth work of delivering "Political Smackdowns".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:09 am
Correct, Ender. The logo
Correct, Ender. Can you also debunk the meaning behind Melania's jacket for the class?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:15 am
No, it's hard to fact check
No, it's not possible to fact check intent.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:23 am
>>>Pretty sure Mark didn't
>>>Pretty sure Mark didn't hack his Facebook
>>>pretty fucking weird whether or not he did, giving the timing and everything
The timing? Lol
I don't believe anybody here fucked with Java Dave's FB account. I certainly didn't. In fact, I think he just had a little melty. This wouldn't be the first time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:32 am
>>>pretty fucking weird
>>>pretty fucking weird whether or not he did, giving the timing and everything
Pretty good insight into TODs thinking.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:38 am
Late to the party but if I
Late to the party but if I were the restaurant owner I wouldn't kick her out. Might make her pay up front since she is well known to be a dishonest person. Her credit is no good, even for the 20 min it takes her to eat.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:40 am
Yeah you're right Timmy, you
Yeah you're right Timmy, you got me there...
My point had nothing to do with troll absurdity of the attacks St. Mark was doing.
Sorry it went over your head.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:47 am
It actually just came off
It actually just came off like really derpy paranoia, TOD. A lot of what you post comes off that way.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:51 am
/r/iamverysmart
/r/iamverysmart
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 11:51 am
>>>>>>Sorry it went over your
>>>>>>Sorry it went over your head.
Whatever you say, Pepe Silvia
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:05 pm
^^^ Now that I got the 3
^^^ Now that I got the 3 Amigos here.
Think you could be apart of a conversation without attacking the person?
I'm betting you can't...
Hope I'm wrong.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:06 pm
I hope TOD isn't disappointed
I hope TOD isn't disappointed when he finds out Pepe Silvia isn't a revolutionary civil rights leader.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:08 pm
Poor TOD is feeling attacked.
Poor TOD is feeling attacked.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:14 pm
First off she was not kicked
First off she was not kicked out for her politics. She was kicked out because she actively works for an administration whose policies the majority of this country think are despicable. For too long moderate people have ceded passion to the right wing minority who now run this country. Elections are routinely decided by people who don’t pay that much attention, but they do pick up on which side feels strongly about things. I understand this slippery slope argument but the people who kicked her out represent the majority and we need to start acting like it if we want to take back control of this country. The time for hand wringing, reasoned arguments, and looking at things from all sides is over. If the tax hike on blue states passed by the minority didn’t wake you up I don’t know what will. It’s time to be passionate about what you believe and kick the fuckers out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:14 pm
The #resistance are very
The #resistance are very fragile people.
Except for Nanc. She's cool.
>>>First off she was not kicked out for her politics. She was kicked out because she actively works for an administration whose policies the majority of this country think are despicable
So in other words, she was kicked out for her politics.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:22 pm
Well, I deleted my FB account
Well, I deleted my FB account. Wasn't using it anyway.
Sorry if I freaked out, but when my brother and another friend called me to alert me that someone had got into my account and was impersonating me in an attempt to scam people, it made me worry about my elderly parents and aunts and uncles who might not see the scam in the spam being sent.
My question about what constitutes fairplay here hasn't been answered. Are there two sets of rules in place? I have tried to follow the instructions given in the Welcome To Viva post, but if you're going to allow such blatant disregard of those, then that changes the game.
Which is it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:26 pm
and this is why we can't have
and this is why we can't have nice things.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:28 pm
Glad the FB situation was
Glad the FB situation was resolved, Java Dave.
Quick question- did you post this, or did Russian trolls take control of your philzone handle too?
Philzone Refugee
Herbal Dave on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:22 am
St. Mark Quisling.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:38 pm
Late to the party but if I
Late to the party but if I were the restaurant owner I wouldn't kick her out. Might make her pay up front since she is well known to be a dishonest person. Her credit is no good, even for the 20 min it takes her to eat.>>>
Agree with that, also need to keep an eye on the salt and pepper shakers.
And a rare 1,2,3 triple doozy attack from, Mark, aetix and Timmy, impressive.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:40 pm
Fo6, Java Dave is in a time
Fo6, Java Dave is in a time of personal reflection here. Please don't poke the hornets nest. He needs space to accept some things in order to grow as a zoner.
Thanks man.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:47 pm
>>So in other words, she was
>>So in other words, she was kicked out for her politics.
No this administration doesn’t have politics. They don’t believe in anything other than amassing power and wealth while attempting to destroy their enemies. She was kicked out because the people are finally waking up to the fact that an administration that is willing to cage children as a bargaining chip in order to get a wall that will do nothing for security, but will help their dear leader save face needs to be resisted at every turn. Their supporters are still welcome in society, but the people who are working for them aren’t.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:51 pm
It's pretty funny and telling
It's pretty funny and telling that when issues of the possible crossing the lines of over stepping rules.
You 3 motherfuckers (who have been timed-out) and know where the line is,
always huddle up when one of you is walking real close or over that line.
You want to keep on attacking and troll people and it's acceptable by the majority...
Who am I to stand in your way.
At least you got that going for you.
In case you forgot what this thread was about.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:51 pm
3.8
3.8
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:52 pm
No Mark, that was me, and it
No Mark, that was me, and it was a fair comment as it was pertinent to the conversation. People who enable fascists get called Quislings, because that was the name of a guy who rolled over for the Nazi's.
The comments you and others are making about my workout regimen, the clothes I buy, what my business sells are not relevant to this discussion. In your own words, they are trolling remarks. Supposedly, there is a sanction for that. Supposedly you have already been through this process.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:58 pm
>>>>>You 3 motherfuckers (who
>>>>>You 3 motherfuckers (who have been timed-out) and know where the line is,
always huddle up when one of you is walking real close or over that line.
lol, why is everything a big conspiracy to you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:58 pm
I forgot one thing, just to
I forgot one thing, just to save anybody the trouble of going to Snopes.
That pic I just posted may or may not of been from a lil restaurant in Vermont.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 12:59 pm
Mark, for a few weeks you
Mark, for a few weeks you were on a very nice tangent with witty sometimes caring posting, you really are a funny interesting person when you stay in check and stay away from being such a total asshole dude. Reign it in man.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:00 pm
Good evening ladies and
Any truth to the rumor that that is a pic of pyramidheat’s food emporium?
Good evening ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls! Welcome to Trollmania 7!
First up tonight – we have a triple tag team troll match..,
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:01 pm
When you call me a nazi and a
When you call me a nazi and a fascist because you disagree with my opinion that people shouldn't be thrown out of restaurants, be prepared for some pushback, Java Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:06 pm
Seriously, Sixer, just one
Seriously, Sixer, if Admin tells me the rules have changed, then it's game on, and I'll go full-on TLC on the Three Amigos
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:07 pm
I called you neither of those
I called you neither of those. I said you are enabling both of those.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:07 pm
Lol. The only you're going
Either way, own your shit.
Also, the only thing you're going full on is incel, Java Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:10 pm
St Mark where did he call you
St Mark where/when did Herbal Dave call you a Fascist or Nazi?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:12 pm
That's already been addressed
That's already been addressed, TOD. Try reading other posts besides your own; definitely helps to keep up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:17 pm
Seriously, Dave, we seem to
Seriously, Dave, we seem to have entered a rule-less time on Viva.
What's that signpost up ahead?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:18 pm
I believe in Free Market
I believe in Free Market Capitalism. I believe it is any business owner's own business who they choose to do business with. If their stance results in their being boycotted and them going out of business, so be it. If their stance sparks a movement and people come out of the woodworks to patronize them, so be it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:21 pm
Honestly its about time the
Honestly its about time the left started growing a backbone. the current potus is ruining this country and enabling and encouraging racism.
Back to topic, There is a big difference between the cake and the red hen incidents, if people think otherwise or disagree you really have a debate that can't be won either way by either side.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:24 pm
Fog, what do think is going
Fog, what do think is going to happen next and how do we stop it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:27 pm
>>>>>Seriously, Sixer, if
>>>>>Seriously, Sixer, if Admin tells me the rules have changed, then it's game on, and I'll go full-on TLC
Don’t go chasing waterfalls, Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:29 pm
Thanks for sharing your
Thanks for sharing your opinion without calling me a nazi, Java Dave.
I won't bring up your involuntary celibacy, your cheap suits, or your lack of physical strength again, unless you talk shit; in which case, I'm going to troll you so hard you'll never be able to click on the Chrome browser icon again without going into a state of terminal catatonic despair.
Enjoy your day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:30 pm
I know with all the paranoia
I know with all the paranoia happening right now it's hard.
So let me get this straight...
You attacked him, in his own thread, which had nothing to do with you, when he never once attacked you even when you tried to get him to engage you.
You attacked him personally, financially etc... it's all in this thread.
Do I got that right? or is that just paranoia??
"When you call me a nazi and a fascist when you disagree with my opinion"
-St. Mark
Still can't find where he called you those things you accuse him of.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:31 pm
First, we need to stop the
First, we need to stop the misinformation, and SHS is a big part of it.
The POTUS just sent out another misleading twitter, calling the Red Hen dirty and in need of a paint job, when photos show an apparently well-maintained establishment.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:33 pm
Can somebody turn the TOD off
Can somebody unplug TOD for the day? Thanks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:34 pm
There you go again, Mark.
There you go again, Mark. Keep talking shit, the clock's ticking.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:34 pm
If you have proven that they
If you have proven that they are liars, what do you do next?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:36 pm
Speedballs?
Speedballs?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:36 pm
Atiexism, fake news, trolling
Atiexism, fake news, trolling, ass-kissing, hacking accusations - this thread does have it all.
Strong work from all involved. Thank you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:37 pm
Dave, you should try and date
Dave, you should try and date that lady who called the cops on the girl selling water. You guys might hit it off.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:37 pm
>>>the clock's ticking
>>>the clock's ticking
You gonna throw me out before I order my chicken, Java Dave?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:40 pm
Slacker, they are trying to
Slacker, they are trying to have a nazi rally like they had in charlottesville here in DC. If i ran the local BLM group i'd rally the same day. Guaranteed it would be 3 to 1 advantage to BLM.
Everyone needs to register to vote and then vote, you can bet your ass all the trumpers are registered, if everyone registers we will win back decency and respect to this great country. No fking way are the trumpers the majority.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:40 pm
Did you order a chicken
Did you order a chicken burrito with green chili, Mark?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:41 pm
I'm a barbacoa guy, Sixxy.
I'm a barbacoa guy, Sixxy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:42 pm
I'm a taco guy.
I'm a taco guy, Guy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:44 pm
Corn or flour tortillas, Six?
Corn or flour tortillas, Six? This is important.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:45 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:45 pm
I won't bring up your
I won't bring up your involuntary celibacy, your cheap suits, or your lack of physical strength again, unless you talk shit; in which case, I'm going to troll you so hard you'll never be able to click on the Chrome browser icon again without going into a state of terminal catatonic despair.>>>
Mark, this is not your best work, you can do and be better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:46 pm
Corn. It ain't no taco in a
Corn. It ain't no taco in a flour tortilla, Señor.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:52 pm
Well done, Six. I didn't
Well done, Six. I didn't realize you even had tacos in VT, let alone understand the culinary nuances of the corn tortilla. I'm impressed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:57 pm
>>>>>>the clock's ticking
>>>>>>the clock's ticking
Don't worry Dave. Admin received your crybaby tattle tale emails. I received an email asking me to try not to upset fragile Zoners.
Guess you won’t have to go all Left Eye Lopez on me.
Gonna go do some disc golf.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 01:59 pm
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you, Mark.
Mexican food is a favorite of mine. Unfortunately, no one here who runs a "Mexican" restaurant can do better than a 4 on a scale of 1-10 except a lone taqueria in Waitsfield. They score a 6 maybe a 7.
Therefore - I have had to learn how to make good Mexican food myself. I do alright - I'm no expert - but I do know a taco is served on a corn tortilla.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:00 pm
Hoovs - you play the disc
Hoovs - you play the disc golf?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:00 pm
Oh no. I think I know the
Oh no. I think I know the person who hacked Dave's FB account. Didn't think they would actually pull it off. Ha ha ha.
J6va crybaby can't handle his business so he cries to admin. Boo hoo....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:01 pm
what does t.o.d. refer to?
what does t.o.d. refer to?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:01 pm
>>>>>I have had to learn how
>>>>>I have had to learn how to make good Mexican food myself.
In my house we call that Mexicanish food. Made a lot of it when we were in the Poconos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:02 pm
Exactly - Mexicanis6.
Exactly - Mexicanis6.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:05 pm
>>> what does t.o.d. refer to
>>> what does t.o.d. refer to?
That One Dude
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:09 pm
>> I received an email
>> I received an email asking me to try not to upset fragile Zoners
I also received an email, and have agreed to be more sensitive to the delicate sensibilities of certain zoners moving forward.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:10 pm
maybe admin can put a broken
maybe admin can put a broken egg icon adjacent to fragile zoners handles ?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:11 pm
Hmm...
Hmm...maybe admin could also put a feminine hygiene product icon next to other zoner's handles?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:11 pm
How do you like your eggs?
How do you like your eggs? Broken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:12 pm
I prefer soft flour tortilla tacos over corn tortillas, which tend to fall apart and make a mess. I also feel corn tortillas overpower the flavors of the filling. JMO.
Speaking of a mess, you all should make a mess of Chili Colorado using this recipe. It's ah-fucking-mazing. Serve with soft flour tortillas, or corn if you swing that way..not that there's anything wrong with that.
https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/groat-ricks-chili-colorado
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:15 pm
This should be a posted daily
This should be a posted daily on every message board:
'El Guapo, I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education, but could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?'
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:16 pm
There are people who know how
There are people who know how to prepare corn tortillas that do not fall apart.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:17 pm
that's why you get 2 corn
that's why you get 2 corn torts per taco...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:18 pm
I have a tortilla press.
I have a tortilla press. Homemade corn tortillas are pretty darn good.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:18 pm
The history of the flour
The history of the flour tortilla is fascinating.
The Jewish refugees from the Inquisition, in Little Spain (Mexico), couldn't eat corn because it wasn't kosher. They started making them from flour. The Christians had a tradition of eating unleavened flour, the sacrament, and picked up the idea of flour tortillas, which they liked better than corn.
And history was made...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:19 pm
IKR, jonas
IKR, jonas. There's a plethora of misunderstandings to be sidestepped.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:22 pm
I'm sure homemade tortillas
I'm sure homemade tortillas are delicious, Timmy!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:22 pm
Ha Ha, mark can dish but not
Ha Ha, mark can dish but not take. He doesn't troll, nooooooooo...
queue watson the dirt sucker
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:23 pm
>> https://www.bonappetit.com
>> https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/groat-ricks-chili-colorado
I still make this recipe all the time. I bought a sage plant because of it. Never get tired of it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:23 pm
>> https://www.bonappetit.com
double..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:23 pm
2 torts for Turts, please.
2 torts for Turts, please.
>>Homemade corn tortillas are pretty darn good.
When I went to Mexico last fall, we hung out with two Mexican women one afternoon as they made a shitload of corn tortillas. Very fun afternoon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:26 pm
Lol!
Pinatas!
That chili Colorado is one of the best recipes out there.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:26 pm
It really is the best recipe
Sweaters!
It really is the best recipe of all time, Ender & Jonas.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:36 pm
I prefer soft flour tortilla
I prefer soft flour tortilla tacos over corn tortillas, which tend to fall apart and make a mess. I also feel corn tortillas overpower the flavors of the filling. JMO.>>>
Totally agree with this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:38 pm
Hefe had the sweater vest!!
Hefe had the sweater vest!! Blahhhh.. I gotta watch that again soon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:45 pm
Hi Dise
Hi Dise
Double corn tortillas is key.
Also want to add that I'm in favor of the broken eggshell icon for the fragile zoners and a doberman wearing aviators and smoking a blunt icon for the cool zoners.
I think it would clear up a lot of confusion.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:45 pm
Yeah, it's good stuff. Hard
Yeah, it's good stuff. Hard to pick out a favorite scene!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:47 pm
2 tortillas for one taco? How
2 tortillas for one taco? How do you taste anything else?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:47 pm
Hi Mark :)
Hi Mark :)
We'll have to disagree re: tortillas and tacos. That said, enchiladas MUST be made with corn tortillas. BY LAW!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:48 pm
Is corn too spicy for
Is corn too spicy for Vermonters? Out here the stuff that goes in a taco has way more flavor than the corn tortilla(s).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:48 pm
The corn sabor is part of the
The corn sabor is part of the taco experience, BK.
>>>That said, enchiladas MUST be made with corn tortillas. BY LAW!!!
That is a fact, darlin'. Awesome to see you zoning, btw
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:49 pm
If the tortillas are properly
If the tortillas are properly cooked before making the taco they usually don’t fall apart with one tortilla.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:51 pm
In the absence of icons - we
In the absence of icons - we could just treat everyone decently.
You know with "respect, civility and keep it kind".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:53 pm
Yeah, but doubling up has to
Yeah, but doubling up has to muck with the ratios. It's a lot of tortilla per bite.
That said, Mexican food here sucks ass. Generally, it doesn't matter what you order, it all looks and tastes the same.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:54 pm
>>Is corn too spicy for
>>Is corn too spicy for Vermonters? Out here the stuff that goes in a taco has way more flavor than the corn tortilla(s).
Mr. Hoover, if you re-read the thread carefully - you'll see that it was a Californian, not a Vermonter, who said that corn tortillas over-power the flavors of the filling.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:55 pm
>> the tortillas are properly
>> the tortillas are properly cooked before making the taco they usually don’t fall apart with one tortilla.
On that - you and I agree, Mr. Hoover.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:55 pm
Fried tacos are an exception
Fried tacos are an exception to my flour over corn preference. Fried tacos are the point of no return, I don't care if they fall apart since in all likelihood there will be red grease running down my arm anyhow.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:56 pm
We're lucky to live in a
We're lucky to live in a place with a pretty strong Hispanic community, so the Mexican food in Denver is pretty good.
I will concede it's no Southern California.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:58 pm
This is true, Mr. Lion.
This is true, Mr. Lion.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 02:59 pm
>>>>>>Mr. Hoover, if you re
>>>>>>Mr. Hoover, if you re-read the thread carefully - you'll see that it was a Californian, not a Vermonter, who said that corn tortillas over-power the flavors of the filling.
Thanks 6, I did read that post. I wasn’t responding to that post though. I was responding to BK. That’s why I quoted his post before responding.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:00 pm
They have Chili's restaurants
They have Chili's restaurants in So-Cal too, Mark
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:02 pm
I totally get the flavor, but
I totally get the flavor, but ratio and mouth-feel are also important. Double corn tortillas would kill it for me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:02 pm
>>That’s why I quoted his
>>That’s why I quoted his post before responding.
You did?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:03 pm
Lol Dise. Do they allow
Lol Dise. Do they allow Chipotle to dot every corner of the landscape like we do here?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:04 pm
Taco Pron
Taco Pron
Mark, pretty much. There's one Chipotle in this town, but about 30ish authentic Mexican places to compete. I don't know how the Gringo Mex chains stay in business.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:05 pm
Shit, those look delectable!
Shit, those look delectable!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:05 pm
There is only one Chipotle
There is only one Chipotle and two Chilis in the entire state of Vermont. That's way more than enough.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:06 pm
Tacos are amazing.
Tacos are amazing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:06 pm
That's why I'm a taco guy,
That's why I'm a taco guy, Guy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:08 pm
This has been a pretty solid
This has been a pretty solid thread hijacking, gang.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:09 pm
Tacos fucking ROCK.
Tacos fucking ROCK.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:09 pm
Some of our most civil and
Some of our most civil and respectful work, for sure.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:10 pm
Nice to see you posting too,
Nice to see you posting too, Mark. I hope you're having a bitchen' summer!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:10 pm
The tortillas at our local
The tortillas at our local taqueria are soft and thin corn ones. They don't fall apart, but they do give you two because they are thin and there wouldn't be enough corn taste with just one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:11 pm
Mr. Surfdead likes to taste
Mr. Surfdead likes to taste the corn. Yes!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:11 pm
>>>>You did?
>>>>You did?
guess not. Either way I saw Dises post but my question was pretty clearly for Brian. Sorry you take issue with it. I’m unfamiliar with Vermont style tacos. I’m assuming they’re pretty limp and maybe even called acos because of the lack of T. Maybe not.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:12 pm
Lol
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:14 pm
I didn't go "crying to Admin"
I didn't go "crying to Admin", I asked them to clarify their position on trolling. They did that, and I presume you got the message. I'm a lot thicker-skinned than you think, I just don't think it's fair to let one side play with a different set of rules.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:14 pm
I took issue with it? Really?
I "took issue" with it? Really? Hmm...are you sure?
Mr. Hoover, is there anything I can do to help you through the confusing afternoon you appear to be having?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:14 pm
I took issue with it? Really?
This post has a double corn tortilla.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:21 pm
Where do you guys rank the
Where do you guys rank the chili relleno in the pantheon of Mexican food?
Underrated/overrated?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:25 pm
Let me put it this way: I don
Let me put it this way: I don't think I've had a really good corn tortilla taco here. I've had ones that are supposed to be good, but they suck.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:30 pm
Agree with BK and Hoover. If
Agree with BK and Hoover. If you have the right corn tortilla (not too thin), and do it right, there is no need for two.
The problem is, I want to put so much in there that the small corn tortillas are Too small.
Chicken/steak
Cheese
Black beans
Avo or guac
Sour cream
Salsa and/or jalapenos
Cilantro
----I live in CA, and thankfully there are few places close by that know what they're doing,
so they can make them for me when I don't want to. (And they do a better carne asada than I can).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:31 pm
PS-IT'S NOT GUACAMOLE IF YOU
PS-IT'S NOT GUACAMOLE IF YOU HAVE TO SERVE IT IN A SQUIRT BOTTLE!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:34 pm
Maybe if she had ordered the
Maybe if she had ordered the Soul Taco, this whole fiasco could have been avoided.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:34 pm
ok I need to log out and cool
ok I need to log out and cool off.
(who am I kidding? I'm hitting the taco truck for lunch)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:38 pm
one corn tortilla ftw.
one corn tortilla ftw.
flour for my mexicanish/sloppy american tacos. like a hard shell corn then wrapped in a flour tortilla, taco bell style. delicious.
agree w/ hoover about the properly made tortilla being sufficient enough-the taqueria has to do the nixtamalization method tho, nobody does that where i am from-i wonder if that is more the style out west? soaking the corn in lime water and alkaline solution, makes the best tortillas of course.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:38 pm
>chili relleno
>chili relleno
Ehh... I like them better when I make them myself. I make a bastardized version with rice, meat & cheese. I prefer just gutting a pablano - stuffing it with garlic, pineapple, onions and cilantro(lime and other spices) and throwing it on the grill. It's a great side for a skirt or flank steak.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:40 pm
Speaking of taco trucks we’ve
Speaking of taco trucks we’ve got one of the worlds largest taco events coming up here in Fresno.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:45 pm
>>>I make a bastardized
>>>> I prefer just gutting a pablano - stuffing it with garlic, pineapple, onions and cilantro(lime and other spices) and throwing it on the grill. It's a great side for a skirt or flank steak.
Damn Jonas, that sounds pretty good.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:49 pm
All of the good taco places
All of the good taco places in Cabo have corn tortillas, never really had a bad one, on occasion they do fall apart. at some restaurants there they ask you, flour or corn, with a choice i have flour but don't complain if they bring corn. Al pastor is most excellent on corn, not sure if it would be as good on flour..
flour for my mexicanish/sloppy american tacos. like a hard shell corn then wrapped in a flour tortilla, taco bell style. delicious.>>>>>>>>
yep, like the double decker taco supreme only much better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:50 pm
>>>>> I prefer just gutting a
>>>>> I prefer just gutting a pablano - stuffing it with garlic, pineapple, onions and cilantro(lime and other spices)
I think I’ll try that but add a little goat cheese. Mmmmmmmm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 03:59 pm
https://www.instagram.com
https://www.instagram.com/barbacoachef
these are my people is south philly-only people in philadelphia practicing the nixtamalization.
they're also righteous people and the wife in the operation crossed the border twice-very outspoken illegal immigrant working and advocating for people like her-at the same time making some of the most authentic tacos in the country-straight up lamb barbacoa. fire.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 04:45 pm
>>Speaking of taco trucks we
>>Speaking of taco trucks we’ve got one of the worlds largest taco events coming up here in Fresno.
I take issue with this.
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 04:45 pm
>>Speaking of taco trucks we
another darn double corn tortilla.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 04:55 pm
We're lucky to live in a
When I lived in Denver, La Loma, the original location on W26th was across the street from my office. Knew it was the right place to eat Mexican when I crossed the threshold into that wonderful smoky smell. Is the new location still as good?
As for the strong hispanic community, I have to agree. Interestingly enough, during my time in Denver, the only bagel I found that was worth a damn was sold smack in the middle of one of the hispanic envlaves.
Denver also provided me with one of the funniest moments I ever saw on TV. After I got out of the shower in the hotel on my first day in Denver, I had the local network news on in an attempt to get some of the pulse of the city that was to be my home. While the traffic report was being done, they were showing a traffic camera focused on The Mousetrap area. While giving the report, a van lost control and went off the road into the grassy median. The broadcast team noticed and started making comments. As they were, the doors opened up and at least 10 people exited the vehicle and started running towards one of the hispanic areas with extreme vigor. The broadcast team started cracking jokes once they realized nobody was hurt.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 05:13 pm
La Loma is defintely still
La Loma is defintely still good, Tony. Denver institution, for sure.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 05:16 pm
What about Casa Bonita?
What about Casa Bonita?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 05:20 pm
I'm planning on taking my
I'm planning on taking my daughter to Casa Bonita at some point. It's a rite of passage for Colorado kids, for sure. We'll probably eat dinner before we go, and she can just run around Black Bart's Cave and watch the cliff divers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 05:45 pm
I don't think a taco on flour
I don't think a taco on flour tortilla is even an option around here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 05:57 pm
I can't go into most
I can't go into most authentic taquerias because everything is cooked in lard. Or they cook the rice in chicken broth. I know, Whomp Whomp..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:10 pm
>>>>I can't go into most
>>>>I can't go into most authentic taquerias because everything is cooked in lard. Or they cook the rice in chicken broth.
Yep. I always have to ask if they put "manteca en los frijoles refritos" or "pollo en el arroz." However, they usually also have whole beans with no pollo and I often end up getting a side of whole beans and a couple of tortillas and salsa picante when eating at some authentic places. Makes for an inexpensive dinner. Funny, the only Mexican place I attempted to eat at where they had absolutely zero vegan options (outside Mexico) was in Denver. I think they even fried the tortilla chips in lard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:18 pm
you guys should just eat
you guys should just eat tacos in santa cruz...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:18 pm
Denver's most famous
Denver's most famous vegetarian (Dan Landes) recently decamped and moved his family down to Mexico.
Watercourse Foods and his other spot are still open, but under new ownership.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:24 pm
We had the Steamer Lane
We had the Steamer Lane Supply fresh fish tacos last time we were in Santa Cruz.
Two tortillas each. One would get too wet and rip.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:25 pm
I'm STARVING ! There Are
I'm STARVING ! There Are Fewer and Fewer Places That Make Full Size Hard Shell Tacos around me ! I Know One Place that I Like = I Am Going There Tomorrow ! street tacos are Everywhere though.....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:28 pm
Hard tacos are ok but street
Hard tacos are ok but street tacos are the best. We had carne asada yesterday. Two tortillas. One would have split from all the juice.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:37 pm
Hacienda is where it's at in
Hacienda is where it's at in SC...
http://delahacienda.susannebelshe.com/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:45 pm
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Monday on the House floor that he “strongly” disagrees “with those who advocate harassing folks who disagree with you.”
“No one should call for the harassment of political opponents,” he said.
When discussing the Red Hen incident on CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said he thinks the Virginia restaurant owner should have served Sanders.
Cummings did not mention Waters specifically but discussed his disapproval for the current incivility in politics.
“This tone is horrible. But again, I think President Trump has created this,” Cummings said. “Since he became president and even before, he has basically given people license to state things that are ugly.”
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 06:54 pm
I like Jack in the Box tacos.
I like Jack in the Box tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 07:05 pm
In Mexico, there is not an
In Mexico, there is not an animal part known to man that doesn't go into tacos. Hard to find vegetarian street tacos down that way.
In Portland, by contrast, we have places like the Cruz Room, which bills itself as a "taco lab" and they have all sorts of crazy tacos, including my favorite called the "twice baked" which features breaded, fried vegan mac & cheese topped with a sriracha slaw. They always give you two tortillas with each taco, which makes it easy to share and mix it up:
http://cruzroom.com/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 07:15 pm
There’s a truck down the
There’s a truck down the street from me that does Ojo (eyeball) tacos. They taste good but are too wet/juicy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 07:19 pm
^ they taste good , but they
^ they taste good , but they "look" funny....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 07:30 pm
This is one of the better
This is one of the better taco threads we've had in a while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 07:56 pm
I’ve got a new message today.
I’ve got a new message today. Fuck all of you Trump lovers. I’m not taking the high road and whoever thinks people like me are the problem can get bent as well.
Have a good day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:01 pm
She Should've Just Ordered
She Should've Just Ordered The Al Pastor Tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:21 pm
lol Surfy
lol Surfy
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:42 pm
>>>>>>and whoever thinks
>>>>>>and whoever thinks people like me are the problem can get bent as well.
Italians too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 08:53 am
^^^ correct. and Chinese
^^^ correct. and Chinese tourists.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 09:18 am
>>> I’ve got a new message
>>> I’ve got a new message today. Fuck all of you Trump lovers. I’m not taking the high road and whoever thinks people like me are the problem can get bent as well.
They bring their hate right up to the point that you use their tactics against them, then they turn tail, turtle and then cry about civility.
They'll call you a "liberal leftist".
They'll try to assassinate your character.
They'll always try to be the loudest mouth in the room.
Until you say this is unacceptable and enough is enough.
Here's to hoping we get a Taco Truck on every corner.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Scarlet Fire
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 09:32 am
well, I guess everyone knows
well, I guess everyone knows where my little town in Virginia is now lol! The Red Hen is a block away from my mom's apartment. The media has become a big pain in the ass the last few days. I am steering clear of downtown lol
my thoughts are this... the golden rule applies to everyone.. if you are rude, racist, disrespectful to others and side with a group of people who hold the same values, then you can expect the same treatment back.. that said, if you own a business, good practice serves all unless a customer is unruly and causing a serious problem. this is causing some serious backlash for our local businesses ~ many of them distancing themselves from the Red Hen. our town brings in quite a bit of tourism and we don't have a whole lot of big chain stores. this could hurt our town and many of my friends' local businesses.. it makes me sad how one administration can divide a country into so much hate.. it seems we've gone back in time 50 years.. i only hope that people wake up and our country can bounce back after this nightmare leaves the white house..
while many businesses are posting on social media that they do not support or agree with Red Hen, i absolutely love Blue Phoenix's response:
Blue Phoenix Cafe & Market
Happy Monday!
In light of our tumultuous weekend, there are some points that I feel are imperative to clarify.
1. We have received numerous calls and messages asking if we serve Republicans. Of course we do! We believe strongly in feeding everyone, but we do not feed hate, violence, or deceit. If an individual threatens the well-being of our customers, staff, or the safe, welcoming, community space that we work so hard to nurture here, then that individual will be asked to leave.
2. I have long thought that food is a social medium, capable of bringing together people from diverse places and perspectives to join in fellowship and conversation. Sitting down together and building community sometimes requires a conscious decision to trust one another (until and unless given a compelling reason not to) and this is what I am challenging all of us to do. Sharing a place at the table gives us space to acknowledge our differences with kindness and recognition of our shared humanity.
3. The hateful speech, threats, and actions that have been perpetrated against our community are the sole responsibility of the perpetrators themselves. That burden does not belong to the staff or owners of The Red Hen. If you believe in personal responsibility as firmly as I do, then it is up to all of us to respond with integrity to this toxic outpouring and hold these individuals accountable for the harm that they deliberately inflict on our neighbors and community.
4. We continue to stand in support of The Red Hen because we support the rights of small businesses to protect their staff, customers, and the values that define those relationships.
Thank you to everyone who has (and no doubt will) reach out with comments and concerns. I look forward to participating with you in this on-going conversation.
With Peace and Blessings,
Amenie
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 10:07 am
Comedy:
Comedy:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:17 am
I also received an email, and
I also received an email, and have agreed to be more sensitive to the delicate sensibilities of certain zoners moving forward. <<<<
Fuck you. It's not about "delicate sensibilities", it's about not being a dick, and not trolling. Those are (supposedly) the groundrules here. I'm not the one getting warnings and time-outs.
As you, and apparently Hoover too, received an email telling you to quit your infantile behavior, you were clearly in the wrong. Instead of apologizing, you keep up with the misinformation and try to take the thread in another direction, all very Trump-like.
It's not like the both of you haven't been warned before.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:25 am
dave, you might want to try
dave, you might want to try the coffee and cannabis thing again...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:27 am
4.1
4.1
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:30 am
This is a taco thread now,
This is a taco thread now, Java Dave.
There's no need to be angry here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:30 am
I only took a year off the
I only took a year off the cannabis, Turtle. That ended last Fall. I don't really see picking up a coffee habit again.
I know these guys are your friends, but they are in the wrong. Fuck 'em.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:32 am
I hear your calls for
I hear your calls for civility Turtle, but you weren't the one getting attacked.
You keep kicking a sleeping dog, eventually it'll bite you.
Just sayin'
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:36 am
No, Mark, it is a thread
No, Mark, it is a thread about civility, and when exceptions to being civil are appropriate.
Scarlet, thanks for the on the ground insight. This has got to be the biggest thing to happen in Lexington in a long while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Scotimus Pyle Scottries
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:37 am
She should have ordered Cream
She should have ordered Cream Puffs and Skittles..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:37 am
>>>>>> I'm not the one
>>>>>> I'm not the one getting warnings and time-outs.
No, you’re the one writing admin asking for them to be handed out, and starting his own birthday threads.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:39 am
Pretty sure this thread is
Pretty sure this thread is about tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:42 am
And again with the trolling.
And again with the trolling.
I didn't ask Admin to do anything other than clarify their position on trolling.
Why you are still here allowed to continue that is their business.
Their web site, their groundrules, their ability or inability to enforce them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:42 am
Maybe Dave would be more
Maybe Dave would be more comfortable if we discussed tortas instead.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:44 am
>>>>>>And again with the
>>>>>>And again with the trolling.
You’re not being trolled now Dave. You sent a whiny email to admin. Are we supposed to pretend it didn’t happen? Sorry if you’re just realizing it’s a bad look.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:44 am
>> And again with the
>> And again with the trolling.
Dude you aren't new here! The trolling has always been here. If you like PZ, you like trolling and vice versa.
Maybe pretend you have Hep-C and hit up that forum? Those guys play nice.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:45 am
Dave, who bumped the thread
Dave, who bumped the thread this morning with a fuck you message?
Oh, that was you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:47 am
Just be calm, Java Dave. This
Just be calm, Java Dave. This is a super chill torta thread; there's no reason for anger or contention here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:52 am
It's not a bad look, it's
It's not a bad look, it's asking Admin if their mission statement means anything.
I play by the rules. You don't. There should be consequences. There aren't. Is it any wonder the offensive behavior continues?
That's a recipe for spoiled children.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:53 am
Timmy Hoover -
Timmy Hoover -
You say he emailed admin asking them to be handed out?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Admin doesn't see that St. Mark attacked him personally, financially, his employment, employees and just came a lil short of doxxing him?
Get the fuck outta here.
This is Herbal Daves thread...
I know it pains you because of the "high post count".
Anymore of your shit is just another attempt to Troll.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:55 am
>>>>>Are you fucking kidding
>>>>>Are you fucking kidding me?
No. I’m not. Did you miss his post where he said he emailed admin?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:56 am
>>>It's not a bad look
>>>It's not a bad look
It's a really bad look, actually.
People don't respect whiners.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:56 am
It’s a community TOD and the
It’s a community TOD and the thread belongs to all of us.
Dave might even get a Zoney for his performance here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:57 am
Yep, sure did, Timmy, because
Yep, sure did, Timmy, because I'm not going to let some condescending milquetoast comment slide. That happens too often. You count on it. This is one of those instances where an exception to civility is appropriate. You talk about owning your shit a lot, but you just try to deflect. You're a hypocrite.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 11:57 am
He said he emailed admin
He said he emailed admin asking for clarification on the rules of ingagement.
Go read it, it's up there.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:00 pm
Post the email.
Post the email. I’m sure it’s not whiny at all.
Also if we want to get nit picky you violated the Viva rules in post 8 of this thread with your comments body shaming Sarah Sanders.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:00 pm
Even Lance called the whine..
Even Lance called the whine...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:02 pm
>> Sarah is a big girl and
>> Sarah is a big girl and can handle that.
I just got this pun 200 posts late.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:02 pm
There seems to be a lot of
Posting the email will help clear a lot of things up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:02 pm
St. Mark (the lion)
St. Mark (the lion)
"This has been a pretty solid thread hijacking, gang."
That's up there too Timmy^^^
Walk, talks, smells like a Troll.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:03 pm
Is this going to be like when
Is this going to be like when you skipped out on meeting Jenn so she could video you doing push-ups and then laid low for a few months?
Also, are you making reading this thread mandatory for your employees, so they can agree you’re being mistreated on the internet?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:05 pm
I enjoyed Mark's thoughtful
I enjoyed Mark's thoughtful contributions to the thread topic. The knee-jerk nazi accusations and hostile tone directed at posters offering reasonable and civil counterpoints to the topic of discussion are what killed the thread, not the "trolling" with tacos. JMO Tacos rule
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:09 pm
As stated a long time ago,
As stated a long time ago, when I was doing the push-up regimen, I could care less if you believe that I did them. I was doing them for my own benefit, not yours. That you are still hung up on them is just embarrassing.
As for work, we usually just discuss music. The incident at the Red Hen came up in discussion. I read a few of the posts in the beginning of the thread out loud. My employee responded that he felt Mark's comments were off base. They don't read the Zone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:11 pm
Here's what YOU agreed to
Here's what YOU agreed to signing up on Viva.
anything that might affect Vivalazone.com/.org, Phil Lesh, his family or ‘Phriends’, or ‘ADMIN’ adversely or reflect negatively on our goodwill, name or reputation, or cause duress, distress or discomfort to us or anyone else.
This does include Herbal Dave right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:11 pm
You said you would meet in
You said you would meet in the park pre show and anyone who wanted to watch could. Jenn said she might go and you wimped out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:12 pm
TOD your posts are causing me
TOD your posts are causing me discomfort. Please stop.
FYI nobody has the moral high ground here. Not you, not me, not Mark, not Dave. But keep up the righteous indignation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:16 pm
Does anybody else find it
Does anybody else find it ironic that TOD and Java Dave's aggressive insistence on the rules is exactly the position the Trump admin has taken on their heinous boarder policy?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:17 pm
They’re gonna beat you up
They’re gonna beat you up over the typo in that post; but yes, the irony is as thick as shoulder hair.
I’ve got a few errands to run. I’ll check back to read the email Dave sent admin later.
Have fun Zoners and save me a few tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:19 pm
Timmy were you the zoner who
Timmy were you the zoner who started a thread suggesting I'd been banned when I'd taken some me time away from the zone, or was that Java Dave? I got a few emails about it, checked the zone and no one had posted on the thread besides the O/P. Weird that someone I barely know on the zone would take the time to call me out here when they thought I couldn't respond. Anyhow, no harm done. I just thought it was rather chickenshit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:20 pm
Wasn’t me. Dave, was that
In the words of Shaggy “it wasn’t me”. Dave, was that you? Was it on Viva or Philzone?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:23 pm
Bucky Badger is making solid
Bucky Badger is making solid accurate contributions here, except for the Chinese tourists part.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:23 pm
Pretty sure it was Viva,
Pretty sure it was Viva, Timmy. Sometimes I find it boring and wander off to live life in 3D, ya know?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:23 pm
I utilized the edit window to
I utilized the edit window to fix some of the typos. Having issues with my autocorrect to text on the zone for some reason.
Gotta be airtight around here. No room for typos when the future of thesess chilrrens is at stake.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:25 pm
>>> TOD your posts are
>>> TOD your posts are causing me discomfort.
Timmy -
Did I attack you personally, financially, your employment or your well being?
Because that's what St. Mark did to Herbal Dave.
Now you're defending and being 100% involved with it.
So you're continuing to Troll.
Is that clear enough for you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:28 pm
I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I
I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I had stopped doing push-ups by the time we hit those Portland shows. Since you're so hung up on it, I topped out at 582 consecutive push-ups. My family can attest to some of that, although no one witnessed anything beyond 300. It was a daily grind, and was a good physical and mental challenge. My parents came for a month-long visit in early December, and I gave up the workout because there wasn't enough time in the day between my responsibilities to my folks and my business. After they left, I was having a hard time with my left shoulder. Probably from doing 500+ push ups a day for weeks on end. I changed my workout.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:28 pm
>>>>>>>>Timmy - Did I attack
>>>>>>>>Timmy - Did I attack you personally, financially, your employment or your well being
Yes, you attacked me personally, and I have been attacked about my employment and well being here for the better part of15 years.
Never once wrote a whiny email to Admin though.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:31 pm
>>>>I didn't wimp out, Timmy.
>>>>I didn't wimp out, Timmy. I had stopped doing push-ups by the time we hit those Portland shows. Since you're so hung up on it, I topped out at 582 consecutive push-ups. My family can attest to some of that, although no one witnessed anything beyond 300. It was a daily grind, and was a good physical and mental challenge. My parents came for a month-long visit in early December, and I gave up the workout because there wasn't enough time in the day between my responsibilities to my folks and my business. After they left, I was having a hard time with my left shoulder. Probably from doing 500+ push ups a day for weeks on end. I changed my workout. <<<
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:35 pm
After Jenn agreed to meet you there you quit posting in the thread and disappeared from the zone for months.
Is any part of that incorrect?
http://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/marijuana-and-sex
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:36 pm
It wasn't me, Dise.
It wasn't me, Dise.
I sent a message to Admin using the contact tab on this page. I didn't use email. I don't have a copy of what I sent them, but the jist of it was pointing out that Mark was actively and brazenly trolling me, and inquiring if their position had changed regarding trolling. If they have a copy of what I sent, I don't care if they post it. It would actually be nice to hear Admin's input on all of this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:36 pm
I totally agree with Dave and
I know I don't pass the dress code , nor do have the qualifications to start a thread, but I totally agree with Dave and TOD. How Sherlock an Watson get away with their shit is beyond me. Its also funny how timmytimmeh doesnt see how snark is playing him. Dance puppet! Banned, emails, and still feel superior. I guess you think its funny? Do you like being judged?
Also- I would absolutely smack the taco out of Fuckabees hand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:38 pm
>>>Because that's what St.
>>>Because that's what St. Mark did to Herbal Dave.
I'm a pretty ruthless bastard when I counter-troll.
Pretty sure I'm at least partially responsible for a zoner quitting his job, selling all his belongings, joining a cult, and eventually becoming an Uber driver in San Francisco.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:38 pm
but the jist of it was
Doesnt sound whiny at all
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:39 pm
Whatevs, Hoover. I know what
Whatevs, Hoover. I know what I did, and don't care if you believe me or don't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:40 pm
I believe you, Timmy. Sorry
I believe you, Timmy. Sorry to bring up past BS, I guess it was all this talk about trolling etc that jogged my spotty memory. I should've just searched viva before making the accusation towards you, but I find the search function here to be a PITA. My bad :(
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:43 pm
Yeah you don't care this much
Yeah you don't care this much:
If you don't care why did you wake up and bump the thread with the fuck you post?
None of this are the actions of someone who doesn't care. I'm sorry you're so worked up. It's funny to read but I do sincerely hope you're okay.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:46 pm
>>>>>>I believe you, Timmy.
>>>>>>I believe you, Timmy. Sorry to bring up past BS
No sweat. We're cool.
>>>>>but I find the search function here to be a PITA.
Me too. I couldn't find it either.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:51 pm
If you don't care why did you
If you don't care why did you wake up and bump the thread with the fuck you post? <<<<
Because I cared about contesting the intimation that the warnings you and Mark received were about "delicate sensibilities" when they were sent to remind you (once again) what the ground rules of engagement (allegedly) are here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 12:56 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:00 pm
I do sincerely hope you're
I do sincerely hope you're okay.<<<<
Thanks. Same to you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:03 pm
Hey Gang,
Hey Gang,
Looks like Timmy has a damn good case
of the Mexicali Blues ...once again.
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:03 pm
>>>>>>>Thanks. Same to you.
>>>>>>>Thanks. Same to you.
Cool, that wasn't so hard for either of us, huh? I imagine TOD might struggle with it a bit.
Let's blame this whole mess on politics and move on.
RR6, we've reached the healing portion of this thread. Go back to socking at 6arbage zone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:07 pm
This is really Trump's fault,
This is really Trump's fault, guys. Let's all agree to be better zoners moving forward.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:10 pm
Timmy, that's your game
Timmy, that's your game little buckaroo.
Don't you have some chores to do.
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:10 pm
Timmy, that's your game
Double taco ...
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:10 pm
Hey RRG, I hope you, Mark,
Hey RRG, I hope you, Mark, Dise, Todd, Timmy, Fly, Turtle, Ateix and anyone left still scrolling through this is not only doing okay, but that each and everyone of you has a most excellent day.
Enjoy every taco.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:15 pm
>>>>>Timmy, that's your game
>>>>>Timmy, that's your game little buckaroo.
Sorry. I rarely even peek in there to read and have no socks there.
>>>>>>>Don't you have some chores to do.
Yeah, but it's pretty easy to post here while doing them. Got some Dad stuff to do with the kids. Swim lessons later. Being a good father and being there for your kids is a fulltime job but I still manage to do some zoning.
What are you up to today?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:16 pm
I'm guessing that this is a
I'm guessing that this is a taco that Sarah Sanders will not be eating?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:18 pm
Thanks, Java Dave.
Thanks, Java Dave.
I'll definitely focus on being more considerate of your feelers and the Viva posting rules the next time you decide to call me a nazi sympathizer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:19 pm
Thanks Dave,
Thanks Dave,
Wishing you well also.
Ignore the idiots ..
There is no winning with the douche crew.
Too much favoritism.
Same as it ever was...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:20 pm
Si! Enjoy EVERY taco.
Si! Enjoy EVERY taco.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:24 pm
Shitty haikus from
Shitty haikus from
butthurt 6arba6ezoners are
always fun to read.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:25 pm
This thread needs beer to go
This thread needs beer to go with the tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:26 pm
...
...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:54 pm
Hi Dreadbeard.
Hi Dreadbeard
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:55 pm
butthurt 6arba6ezoners are>>
butthurt 6arba6ezoners are>>
Yes dreadbeard yes.
How about hot sauce?
Cholula is our normal go to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 01:59 pm
socks, socks, socks all over
socks, socks, socks all over - what a mess...not a good look and definitely cringe worthy...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:08 pm
http://www.trumphotels.org/
http://www.trumphotels.org/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:26 pm
Mark, you, or anyone else
Mark, you, or anyone else here really, is more than welcome to drop in for a round of drinks on me and give me all the shit you want to in person.
It's just that here, we're not supposed to do that. Letting you off the hook for doing that, while I had to stand pat was a little like fighting an opponent who gets to use both arms while you've got one tied behind your back.
This thread (other than, fuck yeah, tacos!) is about what is acceptable in a given situation and the balance between civility and civil disobedience.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: W. Claude Dukenfield Mulemuzik
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:38 pm
Anyone ever stay at Trumps
Anyone ever stay at Trumps hotel in Vegas?
Im thinking about a Vegas trip, never been there.
Its a toss up between Bayahibe, DR or Vegas.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:43 pm
>>>>It's just that here, we
>>>>It's just that here, we're not supposed to do that.
Why don't you stand up for Thom? Guy gets shit on every time he posts something political. Liberal zoners attack him and his family personally all the time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:51 pm
Who's tying your arms, Java
Who's tying your arms, Java Dave? I won't send emails to admin asking for "clarification" about anything, promise.
I've agreed not to troll you, and I've held up my end of the bargain. You continuing to whine at me makes me think you aren't ready to move on. What's the hold up?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: W. Claude Dukenfield Mulemuzik
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:53 pm
^^True, its very difficult
^^True, its very difficult having opposing views on this DBMB.
Plenty of peeps with TDS.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:59 pm
I'm actually becoming
I'm actually becoming convinced that TDS is an actual thing. No shit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 02:59 pm
I reread this thread just in
I reread this thread just in case I was mistaken about who broke the code of conduct here first and this post seems to be the break from people having civil discourse regarding the topic.
Herbal Dave on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 10:55 am
Sorry, if you aren't okay with drawing a line against fascism, you are enabling it to fester and grow. Maybe if a few more Germans had stepped up and resisted the Nazis rise to power, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.
No one answered my question. What's wrong with being intolerant of hatred, lies and, yes, fascism?
You have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, otherwise you are just spineless and complicit.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were generalizing a bit but then you followed up with:
Herbal Dave on Sunday, June 24, 2018 – 11:22 am
St. Mark Quisling.
So how were you "sitting pat" when you threw the first blows? It seems pretty ridiculous to me to accuse people of being nazi sympathizers/enablers then get butthurt and call in admin when they stand up for themselves. You seem like a nice guy but if you're going to drop troll bait all over the place, blow back is fair play . Make no mistake, since the inception of the internet, implying people who disagree with you in a civil conversation are in some way nazis is the epitome of troll bait, see Goodwin's Law.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:02 pm
I had to look up TDS. Seems
I had to look up TDS. Seems real. It took me a long time to realize that people on this board actually think genocide is around the corner. They aren't using it as a metaphor or something.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:04 pm
I'm just saying that the
I'm just saying that the rules are stated here, and that by trying to follow them while others were flaunting them with no repercussion was making for an unfair playing field. I choose to post here because I like the guidelines posted. I am trying to follow them. If the place devolves into something it's not advertised as I'm not interested. As for you personally, no, I have no grudge or beef I'm holding. I truly wish you well and hope you can find other ways to respond when someone challenges your convictions.
As for Thom's case, Slack, I stay on the sidelines on those threads. He's a grown adult and knows how to handle his own business.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:15 pm
The Central Scrutinizer just
The Central Scrutinizer just doing his job...loading is in the white zones only....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:16 pm
You weren't following the
*Godwin's Law
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:16 pm
You weren't following the
You weren't following the rules though, Dave. It was an interesting conversation until the personal attacks were whipped out, and you were the poster who got that ball rolling.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:16 pm
You like to use that word
You like to use that word "butthurt" alot, Dise.
Mark said something I disagreed with. I called him out on it. I wasn't trolling him, I was calling a spade a spade. If you want to talk butthurt, look at his reaction. He started getting into personal stuff that had nothing to do with the discussion.
I'm ready to let it all go as a learning experience for everyone. It's nice you're trying to stand up for your friend, I get that, but please.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:18 pm
I used it once on this thread
I used it once on this thread, I guess that counts as "a lot" to you. lol.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:19 pm
Dude you flat out called him
Dude you flat out called him Quisling, what planet do you post from where that isn't deeply offensive? Mark doesn't need me to stand up for him, I'm commenting on your posts. The ones you typed out.
I'm not really taking sides here, just commenting on what's time stamped in black and white. I wish we could all just have a taco and maybe a beer.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:27 pm
This is not going well for
This is not going well for you, Java Dave.
Maybe take a break from making an ass of yourself any further, lick your wounds, and come back a better zoner.
Big mean St. Mark won't hurt you anymore, I promise.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:27 pm
Ha ha ha..lol lol lol.
Ha ha ha..lol lol lol.
What a pathetic and insufferable little bitch. Very embarrassing behavior JD. Maybe a 30 day self ban would be best for everyone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:29 pm
Quisling rolled over for
Quisling rolled over for fascists. The analogy was apropos.
Do you not support the Red Hen's right to refuse service to whoever they choose?
Saying that their action was idiotic, or wrong, seemed to me to negate their right to do just that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:31 pm
But people can't even agree
People can't even agree on tacos here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:31 pm
I am banning you from this
I am banning you from this thread JD. You're not allowed to post on it anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:34 pm
That's a compassionate
That's a compassionate gesture from JR.
Jesus, Java Dave. This is well past sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:39 pm
taco
taco
sock-o
in a tangine from Morocco
sparkle glow
to and fro
I like a good shoe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:42 pm
I'm ready to let it all go as
I'm ready to let it all go as a learning experience for everyone. >>
Well put Dave, now are you willing to let it go and make a comment on tacos or hot sauce.
There is too much whining going on about Javas whining. Whining about whining is still whining.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:47 pm
you blow
you blow
chapeau
some peaty booze in Glasgow
skid row
talk show
the tears of Rachel Maddow
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:47 pm
Long and whining road?^
Long and whining road?^
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:48 pm
Bye bye
Bye bye
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:51 pm
Sideshow
Sideshow
LOW BLOW!
Generalissimo Franco
apropos
status quo
java dave should let it go
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:52 pm
Dave this,
Dave this,
waaaaa WAAAAA Waaa Waaaaa
Java that,
waaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa WAAAAA Waaa Waaaaa,
whine, whine, whine
blah, blah, blah
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:52 pm
I have better flow
Fog that's nice
but don't you know
I sure have the better flow
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:54 pm
Six, are you writing to the
Six, are you writing to the melody of Billy Joel's 1989 pop classic 'We Didn't Start The Fire'?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:55 pm
Frankly, I can't stand SHS
Frankly, I can't stand SHS and was all for it until I read and considered Mark, Pyramid, and Saddler's posts. I agree with them after they challenged my knee-jerk reaction to the initial story which was pretty much "fuck her and the administration". If we can't be better than the opposition than we are just as bad as they are. Scarlet's post nailed it down further. Giving the trumpers more ammo resulted in blow back that's hurting her community.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:55 pm
Frankly, I can't stand SHS
Now I'm enjoying a cold beer and double posting.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:55 pm
I wasn't, Mark - but I guess
I wasn't, Mark - but I guess it works.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:56 pm
>>>one administration can
>>>one administration can divide a country into so much hate<<<
This administration didn't divide a country into so much hate, it exposed a country divided by so much hate.
That's Trump's gift to us all.
Back to the general hate thread now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:57 pm
No one hates tacos, Lance.
No one hates tacos, Lance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 03:57 pm
Hold on, just to be fair here
Hold on, just to be fair here..
Mark did this
Waaa waaaaaaaaa waaa, snifle
Timmy did that
WaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWAAAAA WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Whine, email admin, whine
Blah, Blah, Blah...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:00 pm
>>>If we can't be better than
>>>If we can't be better than the opposition than we are just as bad as they are.
Exactly. Being reactionary is exactly the look Trump and his supporters want to hang on the reasonable voters who oppose his policies.
You think Sander's didn't know how effective that tweet about getting kicked out of a restaurant would be?
Chess, friends. Not checkers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:06 pm
Exactly. Whatever happened to
Exactly. Whatever happened to the Obama cry of "When they go low - we go high."? Peeps seem to have forgotten that piece of wisdom.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:14 pm
We have to put the bitch slap
We have to put the bitch slap on the hysterical wingnuts who casually throw around words like nazi and fascist at those of us who aren't willing to "go low".
Independent voters see that shit, and they hate it. Big picture, people. Let's get a handle on the far left, shut them the fuck up, and moderate towards the middle with some clear alternatives to Trump World.
That's how we Quarterback this motherfucker.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:16 pm
>>> Exactly. Whatever
>>> Exactly. Whatever happened to the Obama cry of "When they go low - we go high."? Peeps seem to have forgotten that piece of wisdom.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:16 pm
As the middle slides to the
>>>>>Let's get a handle on the far left, shut them the fuck up, and moderate towards the middle
As the middle slides to the right...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:17 pm
Dan Rather:President Trump and the GOP bemoaning a lack of civility is a hypocritical farce. It spurs an almost uncontrollable bout of forehead slapping in disbelief.
But let's be clear about what incivility really looks like:
Incivility is lying to impugn the citizenship of the first African American president.
Incivility is threatening and mocking reporters and attacking the First Amendment protections of our free and independent press.
Incivility is destroying the environment and ignoring climate change.
Incivility is countenancing corruption and venality in the highest reaches of the White House and its cabinet.
Incivility is our government's response to Puerto Rico.
Incivility is undermining a merited investigation by respected law enforcement officials and maligning the notion of an independent judiciary.
Incivility is cozying up to dictators and attacking our allies and friends.
Incivility is ripping children - even those too young to know their parent's name - from immigrants legally claiming asylum.
Incivility is endeavoring to have millions of Americans lose their health insurance.
Incivility is creating a false equivalence between Nazis and counter protesters.
Incivility is using peaceful dissent from NFL players as a pretense for stirring the deep waters of racial injustice.
Incivility is using Twitter to lie and bully.
Incivility is just having the pathology to constantly lie in the first place.
Incivility is gas lighting your fellow citizens on issues big and small.
Incivility is trying to bar entry to the United States on account of religion.
Incivility is ignoring science and reason.
Incivility is trying to run roughshod over our constitutional protections.
These are but a few of the real incivilities that plague our moment in history. They are the actions of a man and his enablers who feel no compunction about destroying the bonds that have held this improbable nation together. We will only succeed if we have a civil society. And anything or anyone who attacks that cherished American ideal must be considered...uncivil.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:19 pm
Asking the lying shit weasel
Asking the lying shit weasel fascist supporting Press Secretary politely to leave a restaurant is not uncivil.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:20 pm
For me - "going high" is how
For me - "going high" is how you go about doing it. It's the way you do it - more than what you do.
Actions have always spoken louder than words - and talk is cheap.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:28 pm
Nanc and TOD can you source
edit...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:29 pm
Exactly, 6.
Exactly, 6
I find elected democrats voting with the gop since trump's election to be the bigger threat than people who choose to go high.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:35 pm
And speak louder than tweets
And speak louder than tweets as well....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:36 pm
"We Have a Crisis of
"We Have a Crisis of Democracy, NOT Manners"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:44 pm
^^^
^^^
A good comment below that opinion piece in the link above:
"Hearts and minds are not won by attack, they are won by reason."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:49 pm
Trump did not reverse his
Trump did not reverse his policy of separating children from the parents at the border because of reason.
How did reasoning with Hitler work out?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:52 pm
Trump isn't Hitler, Nancy.
Trump isn't Hitler, Nancy. Insisting it over and over doesn't make it so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:53 pm
Civil disobedience isn't easy
Civil disobedience isn't easy, action should be well thought out before executed. IMO if the entire staff had walked off the job rather than serve SHS it would've left a more damning commentary on the administration and SHS. Employees get interviews offering their compelling reasons for risking their livelihood instead of leaving a target on the restaurant itself, a Big HR meeting the next week to reclaim valued employees, minimal collateral damage.20/20 grain of salt of course.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:54 pm
Trying to change Trump? That
Trying to change Trump? That's a fool's errand.
Let's try to reason with voters first - and not his base - 'cause that would also be foolish.
Let's reason with all those who did not vote, who voted for Bernie or the Green Party or who wrote people in. People who are moderate or independent. Those are the people you reason with.
Reason with Hitler? Makes a good headline - but hyperbole much?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 04:59 pm
No, Trump isn't Hilter..yet.
No, Trump isn't Hilter..yet.
Can anyone deny that Trump is a wannabe Dictator? And the GOP are doing nothing to prevent that.
He is following Hitler's playbook labeling brown people "animals", claiming they're infecting our country. Forcing Government employees to be loyal to him over Country. Advocating for denying Due Process of the Law and shitting on the Constitution...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:00 pm
>>Trump did not reverse his
>>Trump did not reverse his policy of separating children from the parents at the border because of reason.
Trump reversed his policy because he got too much blow-back from reason-able people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:02 pm
for the record, his "reversal
for the record, his "reversal" is mostly propaganda B.S. and he's already reversed much of his reversal. he's a snake.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:03 pm
He didn’t reverse it because
He didn’t reverse it because he didn’t actually really reverse it. He claims to have but there is no way to actually verify it, and the reason he did anything was because the coverage was “poor optics”.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:06 pm
>> He is following Hitler's
>> He is following Hitler's playbook labeling brown people "animals"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-animals-hitler/
WHAT'S FALSE
Neither of the quotes offered in the meme is a literal one, and Trump's quote more specifically described MS-13 gang members as "animals."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:06 pm
>>>Can anyone deny that Trump
>>>Can anyone deny that Trump is a wannabe Dictator
There isn't usually any wannabe in a real dictatorship.
Not saying I don't see your point, but he's not a dictator, and he doesn't have a path to become one.
So, let's stop with that. It's hurting the credibility of the voters who reasonably oppose his policies.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur AMSaddler
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:07 pm
At this time, I would like to
At this time, I would like to urge the most vocal of critics on either side of the numerous issues we as a country face to run for office and attempt to change the laws that irk you the most.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:07 pm
>and he doesn't have a path
>and he doesn't have a path to become one.
I respectfully disagree. The GOP are enabling Dictator Don 100 percent
Your link isn't reassuring at all, Emder. As far as Donnie is concerned every brown man woman and child is an animal. Which is why he has no problem putting them in cages...or as the Propaganda would have you believe "summer camps"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:11 pm
Let's reason with all those
Let's reason with all those who did not vote, who voted for Bernie or the Green Party or who wrote people in. People who are moderate or independent. Those are the people you reason with.
As far as I can tell people aren't ready for that as long as they hang on to blaming voters rather than accepting the DNC was complicit in turning them off. People who didn't vote? Well, you have to give them someone to vote FOR is the elephant in the room. Frankly, I think HRC's VP choice was the nail in her centrist coffin. It was like she was getting off on forcing voters to hold their noses.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:16 pm
There’s always excuses.
There’s always excuses.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:35 pm
Had HRC chosen Bernie, Tulsi
Had HRC chosen Bernie, Tulsi Gabbard, or even Warren, she would've had a massive landslide victory. It makes no sense to disregard uniting people who are mostly like-minded in favor of relying on fear to win an election. Instead, she went with milquetoast.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:35 pm
So what laws were passed to
So what laws were passed to make this illegal immigration policy any different from previous admins? Just curious
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:46 pm
No laws were passed, just
No laws were passed, just policy and enforcement decisions that were made.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:52 pm
so he's enforcing the law as
so he's enforcing the law as written prior to assuming the office. thanks!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 05:54 pm
No, he’s enforcing the same
No, he’s enforcing the same law differently.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:00 pm
Thank you, Timmy.
Thank you, Timmy. That's exactly right.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:04 pm
He could choose not to be an
He could choose not to be an evil cocksucker and show everyone his mettle, Hill. Apparently, he relishes being a gigantic asshole over leading the nation in a new direction.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:12 pm
he's actually enforcing the
he's actually enforcing the law, period. so when obama was racking up record numbers of deportations, and the illegals were caged & wrapped in aluminum foil, those pictures that are being shown that says they're from trump era but most were from obama, no outrage back then? but now it's the most godawful thing ever?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:18 pm
https://www.npr.org/2018/05
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/29/615079848/following-up-on-1-500-missing-i...
MUNOZ: Attorney General Sessions announced a policy change. Now, if a parent comes in the United States with their child, even if they're fleeing for their lives, the policy of the United States is to separate that child from the parent no matter what the age (unintelligible).
INSKEEP: Is that different? Did you not do that in the Obama administration at all?
MUNOZ: No. The Obama administration did not do that. No, we did not separate children from their parents. This is a new decision, a policy decision, made by the attorney general which puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history. These - in many cases, these are people who are fleeing because of violence in their home country. The responsibility of the United States under the law is to determine who has a well-founded fear, who might qualify for political asylum. That's a hard job to do to sort out folks who might be economic migrants from folks who might be in danger. But our job is to make sure that we protect people who are in danger. What this administration has chosen to do instead is to terrorize these families in the hope that that terror will deter them from coming in the first place.
INSKEEP: Well, President Trump tweeted about this or appeared to tweet about this. There's a lot in the tweet. But there's one sentence in it, and it says, put pressure - put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from their parents once they cross the border into the U.S. Is there a law requiring the separation of parents from their children?
MUNOZ: No, there is not. The attorney general announced this policy not very long ago. This is the Trump administration's posture.
INSKEEP: John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, defended this policy on this program in an interview with NPR's John Burnett the other day. He was asked, isn't it cruel to take a mother from her children? And let's listen to some of what he had to say.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)
JOHN KELLY: The children will be taken care of - put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States. And this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long.
INSKEEP: A couple of parts there; first, put into foster care or whatever. Is the United States competent to do that?
MUNOZ: So that means more kids in the hands of HHS. This is not what HHS Office of Refugee Resettlement is for. They don't have the budget for this. And it is just outrageous to suggest that we can come up with decent care for kids when they're being separated from their parents, especially when we're talking about in many cases parents who have brought those children to save their lives. It's - I don't have words for how reprehensible that policy is.
INSKEEP: But let's talk about the other part of John Kelly's statement - the big point is they elected to come illegally. This is clearly an effort to deter people from coming at all, warning them this is a dangerous thing for you to do. Don't do it.
MUNOZ: But here's the thing. It is not illegal to approach the border and say, I want asylum. I fear for my life. The law actually provides for that. They are lumping folks who are essentially refugees in with illegal migrants. And it's not the same thing. In fact, it is legal to approach the border. These are not folks who are trying to evade our border authorities. They get to the border, and they look for the Border Patrol because what they're saying is I'm coming to the United States for refuge. And what we are doing is saying, fine, we'll take your children away.
INSKEEP: Cecilia Munoz, thanks very much.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:19 pm
There was outrage back then
>>but most were from obama, no outrage back then?
There was outrage for Obama's actions and policy back then too. Not as much, but there was.
Do you always talk in absolutes?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:22 pm
Obama was still enforcing the
Obama was still enforcing the law. The same law can be enforced without locking up people for misdemeanors and taking their kids. That’s the difference in policy.
i know you’ll say only 3% of those arrested and released by Obama showed up for court but that’s a lie. The number was 75%
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:22 pm
Well if it was godawful then,
Well if it was godawful then (and it was), why continue it? Policy isn't law. Grandstanding on evil for political gotchas when you can be the bigger man makes him all the shittier.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:27 pm
When will Kushner tell Trump
When will Kushner tell Trump to handle it like Israel and shoot the kids?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:28 pm
so it boils down to how one
so it boils down to how one feels about it. just wanted clarification. thanks!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:33 pm
Not really, it boils down to
Not really, it boils down to decency and a decent leader doesn't use children as pawns for political gain like a hostile 3 year old. Rising above is an option, you know. One road I've yet to see trump administration take.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 06:53 pm
It's bad policy, period. The
It's bad policy, period. The smart kids on the right (Ben Shapiro, etc.) know that.
We need to lean on our lawmakers to get something coherent, bi-partisan, and sustainable on the table. The soda can has been kicked down the road long enough.
In the meantime, yeah; don't separate kids from their parents. The fuck outta here with that. It's below us as a nation, regardless of the complexity of the issue(s).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: thinthread hillman
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 07:10 pm
not a trump fan at all. the
not a trump fan at all. the saint is right about any solution to be proposed. no way would children be used by unsavory actors as a gimmick to help persuade immigration svcs to keep the family together in this country. don't have an issue with hispanics period as i usually interact with a fair number across the country on a daily basis. they're usually extremely polite & gracious, much more so than the white people i work with.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 07:17 pm
lol JR. Go pound sand.
lol JR. Go pound sand.
I'm enjoying the conversation almost as much as the slices and pint of Manny's I'm lunching on at the University Ave. Pagliacci. Would you believe today is their last day at this location after 40 years here? Progress, meh.
Decided I'm going to try to work up a greasy funky instrumental and call it "Soul Taco". Muy sabroso...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 07:35 pm
Paglacci is a custie chain
Paglacci is a custie chain restaurant.
Best 3:
1) Big Mario's
2) Italian family Pizza
3) Sizzle Pie
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 07:48 pm
Good to know. None of them
Good to know. None of them are in my neighborhood.
All that's left is some chain called Mod Pizza that I haven't been to.
At least Pagliacci is local. Pie was always decent, the drinks cold, and the service good.
They also didn't sell the Sonics to some Oklahoma Oil tycoon.
So they've got that going for them.
I also enjoyed their collection of vintage Italian movie posters. Those are cool.
It was a nice place to take a break, and now it's gone.
C'est la vie.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 09:41 pm
Did they still have all those
Did they still have all those Italian cinema posters on the walls?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 09:48 pm
500 Tacos
500 Tacos
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 09:51 pm
Yeah, the posters were still
Yeah, the posters were still up. I think they are just going to move them to their other locations.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 10:34 pm
Spill the whine, dig that
Spill the whine, dig that pearl
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Frank3 frank3
on Tuesday, June 26, 2018 – 10:43 pm
nice thread! great work boys
nice thread! great work boys !
500+....
no garbage here :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:30 am
how come viva admin never
how come viva admin never posts in the community's best threads?
do lava and heydavey even post any longer? funny shit.
great thread folks. 500 tacos for all!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:58 am
ogbk (pyramidheat) -
ogbk (pyramidheat) -
Is it the communities "best threads" because of content?
or the fact that it hit 500?
Hundreds Of Red Hen Gift Cards Are Being Donated To Veterans By Strangers
The Red Hen restaurant has come under attack by Trump supporters after the restaurant forced White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave its premise. Now, a bit of social good is coming from the small business that was viciously and falsely attacked by President Donald Trump for its level of cleanliness.
https://hillreporter.com/hundreds-of-red-hen-gift-cards-are-being-donate...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 08:07 am
How much is the food at this
How much is the food at that boujie place?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 08:40 am
nice, tod. that trump tweet
content-they always miss these threads-you sure don't tho, good job, bud.
and nice, tod. that trump tweet was trash, expect anything less?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:03 am
>>> expect anything less?
>>> expect anything less?
Nope.
I'm also gonna point it out, because the more you expect less and less...
He'll keep lowering the bar, while desensitizing the masses into believing "This is just Trump being Trump, he always does this..."
Making it more normal everyday.
Fuck that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: half step
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:11 am
Everyone please shut down
Everyone please shut down your computers, go outside and get some fresh air
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:28 am
>Ben Shapiro
>Ben Shapiro
Did you really just cite him as a beacon of 'getting it'? Lol...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:42 am
Just so we're crystal clear
Just so we're crystal clear St. Mark.
As you said in the 2nd post in this long ass thread.
>>> I thought the Right was completely insane for pretty much all of Obama's administration; now it's pretty clear the crazy is equally present on the Left.
Kicking somebody out of a resturrest because you don't like their politics? Check.
The issue wasn't Sarah Huckabee Sanders politics and even that she lies from the Podium daily.
She's been able to go out in public eat, drink and do her thing.
It's when the reports of newborns to 3 months were being separated from the mothers and young children being put into cages indefinitely.
This is where it became a moral not political stand.
Either you get it or you don't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:47 am
>> Either you get it or you
>> This is where it became a moral not political stand
>> Either you get it or you don't.
Did the Obama Administration Place Immigrant Children With Human Traffickers?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:47 am
>>>>>Is it the communities
>>>>>Is it the communities "best threads" because of content?
or the fact that it hit 500?<<<<<<
A little of column A a little of column B.
When zoners like Lance and Ender give an opinion in a thread like this it should be given some weight. Ender is almost a robot. He’s the least emotional and most analytical zoner there is. If he says you’re being a crybaby, you’re probably being a crybaby.
There’s some gems in here. Some good projection too. Like calling Mark, Ateix, and myself the three amigos when there was clearly more than 3 people that shared the same viewpoint while you, Fly, and Dave cried about being persecuted. The thread had politics, drama, conspiracy theories, banning threats, secret emails to admin, some healing, a few fuck yous, and some comedy. That’s the recipe for a good thread.
If you don’t like this sort of thread why are 50+ posts yours?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:03 am
Ender - are we trying to
Ender - are we trying to equate what is happening now with what happened under the Obama admin or are you just throwing that out there?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:08 am
obama should've endorsed
obama should've endorsed bernie.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:20 am
>> Ender - are we trying to
>> Ender - are we trying to equate what is happening now with what happened under the Obama admin or are you just throwing that out there?
Do you find 6000 children given to human traffickers and forced to work for 12 hours day on a egg farm equivalent to 12000 children being detained by HHS?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:21 am
And we would still be in the
And we would still be in the same situation... Bernie was never going to be president. You can cry all the way to the grave --- it's just a simple fact. People need to get more educated on the REALITY of our political system -- not what they hope it to be. Spoiler alert: it's only getting worse, not better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jonaspond Jonas
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:27 am
The article even says that
The article even says that the number is exaggerated. 6,000 kids working on an egg farm? Really?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:39 am
Timmy -
Timmy -
I've explained on more than one occasion what the 3 Amigo's means.
No projection at all.
You 3 huddle up when the "time-out" talk starts hence the 3 Amigos.
After in your own words of being here for 15 years, also being banned and timed out,.
St. Mark and Ateix have been banned and or timed out.
You KNOW where the line is.
Im pretty sure somebody else made a comment to the 1,2,3 attack earlier in the thread.
Yeah, it's up there.
>>> if you don't like this sort of thread why are 50+ posts yours?
Because this:
St. Mark (the lion)
"This has been a pretty solid thread hijacking, gang."
Also, because I give a shit to what is happening to OUR country.
I'm also sick of the fuckin' bullying and personal attacks that are taking away from the point which was Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave a restaurant.
I also will not stand for this bullshit dribble either.
"Independent voters see that shit, and they hate it. Big picture, people. Let's get a handle on the far left, shut them the fuck up, and moderate towards the middle with some clear alternatives to Trump World.
That's how we Quarterback this motherfucker. "
- St. Mark
Fuck that, take a knee!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:36 am
hey good win for alexandria
hey good win for alexandria ocasio-cortez over the neo liberals in nyc last night. that's positive.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:37 am
Where did you get the 6000
Where did you get the 6000 number from, still there is a huge difference in situations here, one being an obvious mistake and not intentional and the current situation where its NOT a mistake and absolutely intentional. Grasping at straws GOP propaganda BS.
And we would still be in the same situation... Bernie was never going to be president.>>>
Exactly right, pointing fingers won't help anything now.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:41 am
>> The article even says that
>> The article even says that the number is exaggerated.
Did you misread "exacerbated" as "exaggerated"?
To make matters worse, an investigation published 19 June 2018 by McClatchy revealed that the figure was only a snapshot from a three-month period and the number of children who are unaccounted for by HHS is actually nearly 6,000. The figure is likely exacerbated by an April 2018 agreement that allows background check information, including immigration status, of caregivers like parents and relatives to be shared with immigration authorities.
>> 6,000 kids working on an egg farm? Really?
If snopes is "fake news" to you then we probably can't usefully communicate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:40 am
>> The article even says that
double..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:47 am
>> Exactly right, pointing
>> Exactly right, pointing fingers won't help anything now.
I agree. I was just calling out T.O.D.'s bullshit that this is about morals and not politics. He and the media got religion now because we are talking about Republicans.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:47 am
>>>>>You KNOW where the line
>>>>>You KNOW where the line is.
Yeah, the line is someone crying to admin.
You, Dave, and Fly carry on with the righteous indignation. It’s some of the funnier stuff in this thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:53 am
Ender, your point is
Ender, your point is partially valid. The difference today is we have Sessions making jokes and still saying its a great idea and much of trumps base thinks its wonderful, in that aspect it is about morals and ethics.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:54 am
tod. lol.
tod. lol.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 10:57 am
I still would have served her
I still would have served her, and made sure that no staff spit or jizzed in her food.
David Duke, on the other hand, could use a hot case of giardia.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:01 am
Are you marching Saturday,
Are you marching Saturday, Fog?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:02 am
Righteous indignation?
Righteous indignation?
You mean not putting up with your shit.
So let me guess, if Herbal Dave doesn't post the emails and Admin. doesn't respond to the call for releasing the emails.
He's automatically guilty of what you accuse him of..
Do I got that right?
Keep deflecting from the original point of the thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:04 am
You’re doing Gods work TOD
You’re doing Gods work TOD
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:06 am
Mike Huckabee is doing God's
Mike Huckabee is doing God's work!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:14 am
I would have served her also
I would have served her also but totally respect and understand not serving her. The manager has resigned.
Hopefully they get a huge turnout, can't make saturday, its Dads birthday party.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:22 am
Ha ha hah....does TOd where
Ha ha hah....does TOd where dead Co concert t shirts?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:24 am
TOD is in the #resistance!
TOD is the #resistance!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:28 am
Tchod, please stop bringing
Tchod, please stop bringing up my name in your incoherently rambles.
Thanks in advance, and God bless.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:32 am
It doesn't matter what you
It doesn't matter what you where....
But knowing how to spell wear does.
Carry on....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:37 am
Good morning all. Not too
Good morning all. Not too much time for this today as I am more interested in watching Sweden crush Mexico's World Cup hopes.
Just want to remind you that I don't have any emails to share. That's because I didn't receive any response to the message I sent in the contact admin link. No, the only ones who received emails were apparently the ones who were found guilty of crossing the line of what is acceptable here. That would be you, Timmy and Mark. So why don't you go ahead and post those emails?
I've already stated that I am okay with Admin posting what I sent them, and will restate that I welcome their participation in this thread. It would be a good forum for them to clarify what they feel is acceptable and how they would like to see their site function.
Now, back to Sweden raining on Mexico's Taco Party.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:37 am
"Proposed by Senators Tim
"Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, its radicalism approaches that of a constitutional amendment. Their new AUMF would subvert an article at the core of the Constitution, gutting a vital protection against tyranny devised by the Framers. It would authorize multiple existing wars without even debating them individually. It would empower Trump and his successors to unilaterally wage war in new countries, expand their ability to indefinitely detain prisoners without charges, and empower them to unilaterally kill individuals even inside the United States."
So so so different
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/congress-may-declar...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:40 am
We’re past that now Dave, but
We’re past that now Dave, but this has really been a good thread for you to get some things off your chest that you claim to not care about.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:46 am
>>>No, the only ones who
>>>No, the only ones who received emails were apparently the ones who were found guilty of crossing the line of what is acceptable here
Guilty as charged. I actually narrated some of your posts in the voice of Jane Goddall a few years ago, too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 11:58 am
>> I actually narrated some
>> I actually narrated some of your posts in the voice of Jane Goddall a few years ago, too.
Be careful, they got Roseanne for that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:00 pm
Lol Ender.
Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:17 pm
Ha ha, good stuff Ender!
Ha ha, good stuff Ender!
I'm on Cloud 9 right now, as Sweden destroyed El Tri 3-0, and Korea snuffed the Germans 2-0, so the Mexicans advance, and the defending world champs are gone-zo!
I will definitely be enjoying this day. Hope you all do to.
If you get a chance, check out the photos from Marseille I posted in the Stones Tour thread. Looks like an amazing venue. Hope we get on the ground reports from Tommy and Woz.
Skol!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:41 pm
FYI, Tim Kaine speaking out
FYI, Tim Kaine speaking out in other news.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-blast-trump-not-seek...
Giving trump more power is a really really bad idea, i'm with ya on that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:42 pm
So Sweden and Mexico advance?
So Sweden and Mexico advance?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:44 pm
Ja!
Ja!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:52 pm
Hoover trolls again.
Hoover trolls again.
->while you, Fly, and Dave cried about being persecuted. 9:47
->You, Dave, and Fly carry on with the righteous indignation 10:47
Sorry "Dirt Sucker", I cant stand back and you mention my handle twice in an hour after I clearly wanted to leave it at a good place YESTERDAY @1:20 (if possible). Neither of your statements are accurate This is a prime example of your troll game. Its all you and Mark know how to do. If you and "smoking jacket" feel the heat, I suggest it is because you are realizing your shit is tired, played, and unfunny. I applaud those willing to speak up to you. Maybe admin wants the group to correct itself. If you are hurt by the truth , you and your lordship are free to leave - voluntarily this time.
If this were my restaurant, I'd kick you both to the curb with no tacos.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 12:56 pm
oh and yes Korea yes- Mexico
oh and yes Korea yes- Mexico thanks you..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:01 pm
Thanks for buzzing in to
Thanks for buzzing in to prove my point, Fly.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:03 pm
I'm not sure you really know
I'm not sure you really know what the word trolling means, Fly.
Then again, you're a grown man who plays an insect character on a drug band message board; so obviously you have a good handle on things.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:13 pm
oh and yes Korea yes- Mexico
oh and yes Korea yes- Mexico thanks you..>>>
I can't believe Germany is out. At least they have the starburst.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:13 pm
how come fly always lands on
how come fly always lands on turds?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:18 pm
It's just part of the
It's just part of the character, Turts.
He tries.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:35 pm
Not all flies do that.
Not all flies do that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:36 pm
Dave
Dave
Fly
TOD
Are all 3 of them incel's?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 01:52 pm
Wow JR. I had to look that
Wow JR. I had to look that up. That's not anything close to who I am, or I would hope for anyone on this board. That's just a horrible and ugly thing to say about people you don't know. You sir, have issues.
For anyone watching, here's the meaning from the Urban Dictionary of the hate speech JR just posted:
aka "involuntarily celibate", a person (usually male) who has a horrible personality and treats women like sexual objects and thinks his lack of a sex life comes from being "ugly" when its really just his blatant sexism and terrible attitude. incels have little to no self awareness; even when they see other "ugly" men with girlfriends, they consider these men to be tricksters who have somehow beat the system and can get women despite being cursed with unattractiveness (in other words, theyre respectful to women and women are attracted to their personalities, but incels cant comprehend such a phenomenon). they believe that women owe them sex, and many of the more extreme incels like to spend time in incel communities on the internet coming up with ways to make women have sex with them (often involving genocide of people of color, genocide of "Chads" (men who have sex), taking rights away from women, raping them, having sex with women's dead bodies, and other horrid, disgusting things. they cant understand that that is PRECISELY why women want nothing to do with them).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: half step
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:00 pm
It looks like this one might
It looks like this one might hit 1,000. Would that be a first for Viva?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:11 pm
Urban dictionary is an
Urban dictionary is an entertainment site, not an actual dictionary.
Here's a definition of incel from Wiki:
Etymology
Blend of involuntary + celibate.
Pronunciation
(US) IPA(key): /ˈɪnsɛl/
Noun
incel (countable and uncountable, plural incels)
A person who inadequately or never has sex despite wishing to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:15 pm
i had that after my divorce
i had that after my divorce but it worked out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:20 pm
^either way, its horrible
^^either way, its horrible
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:26 pm
In my book it ain't trolling
In my book it ain't trolling until someone starts a couple of hundred threads about you, and then stays up all night and day posting in them.
It's a high bar, I know, but one that we can all strive to attain.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:40 pm
and don't forget ascii art
and don't forget ascii art
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:47 pm
And having your name in the
And having your name in the troll's handle.
A very, very high bar. One could almost say that it was "all pro."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:47 pm
>>> Here's a definition of
>>> Here's a definition of incel from Wiki:
Definitely not a personal attack.
>>> Icy women and warm Lonestars Timmy Hoover on Monday, June 25, 2018 – 08:53 am
>>>>>Mark, did you just hack my facebook account?
Whoever did it, that's some weak ass bullshit.<<<<<
lol, Incel Dave has gone full Dewitt.
Fucking old people and technology. A perfect comedy mix.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 02:54 pm
I’m pretty good with the
I’m pretty good with the nicknames. I admit the Dewitt comparison is kind of mean though. Dave’s not as crazy as her.
Being called an Incel is the kind of thing that a sex haver would laugh off and not make a big deal out of. At least that’s my take as a sex haver. If Dave’s a Volcel and not an Incel I apologize.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 03:29 pm
I'm having trouble following
I'm having trouble following your post quoting above, TOD.
Is there something specifically you're asking me, or is this like another grave social injustice you're avenging?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 03:40 pm
I'll add Disco Stu to the
I'll add Disco Stu to the list.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 03:43 pm
So many Incel tears in this
>> hate speech
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:06 pm
Again, Ateix, this thread is
Again, Ateix, this thread is about civility, and when and when it is not appropriate to be incivil.
What part of JR's comment do you find to be apropriate for this discussion on this board with the groundrules stated as they are?
It was over-the-top ugly and offensive. Sure it's easy for little schmucks to laugh it off as "just joking", but it's not funny to me. That's just part of the troll game, and anyone who thinks it's cool to go there is displaying signs of a serious mental pathology. I guess there is no accounting for crazy, but there is a way to cut it off.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:08 pm
>>>>>but it's not funny to me
>>>>>but it's not funny to me.
How come?
I guess much like music comedy is subjective.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:25 pm
Whatever you gotta tell
Whatever you gotta tell yourself to justify the crybaby emails, Dave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:31 pm
Sure, I'm a crybaby, because
Sure, I'm a crybaby, because I let admin know there rules were being broken and was wondering if that was what acceptable here. If I was in the wrong, you'd think I was the one who would have gotten the email. I don't have any emails to post. Admin can post what I sent them. Mark and Timmy have been invited to share the emails they were sent. They haven't. Gee, wonder why?
But please, keep up with the name-calling and lashing out. It makes you seem so rational.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:38 pm
>>>>>>Gee, wonder why?
>>>>>>Gee, wonder why?
Same reason you skipped out on doing push ups in the park when Jen volunteered to film it?
Dave, I’ll show you mine if you show me yours ever work out for you?
>>>>>>I don't have any emails to post.
Semantics. Just like you didn’t start a birthday thread for yourself. You started a reflecting on turning 50 thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:39 pm
(No subject)
Keep it classy MAGA.
https://t.co/Bla3gXgX4K
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:40 pm
>>>I'm a crybaby, because I
>>>I'm a crybaby, because I let admin know there rules were being broken and was wondering if that was what acceptable here
I believe the technical term is actually tattletale.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:42 pm
>>>>>>you'd think I was the
>>>>>>you'd think I was the one who would have gotten the email
Or another theory: maybe nobody sent a whiny comment to admin about your behavior.
#notrollmo. #counterpoint
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:47 pm
timmy and his lord sure are
timmy and his lord sure are trying a little too hard. its cute. Brain space- check! hahaha
tick tock trolls
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Fly Fly
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:49 pm
this is now a thread about
this is now a thread about tools. lol
marky, show us how smart and cool you are again.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 04:52 pm
I do that every time I post,
I do that every time I post, Fly.
That's why I'm a 12x ZOTY.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:09 pm
If someone called me that
If someone called me that word I'd laugh it off....your comments over the years related to women and your relationships with them is the reason why I chose to say it. Must have hit home or you wouldn't have written paragraphs on a dbmb defending yourself and playing the victim.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:12 pm
FACT: Van Morrison wrote
FACT: Van Morrison wrote "Listen to the Lion" about St. Mark.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:19 pm
Dave, if I ever post
Dave, if I ever post something that you feel is trolling or would prompt you to email or “contact” admin just tell me I’m hurting your feelings and I’ll leave the thread.
same for Fly and TOD or anyone else really.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:28 pm
>>> Dave, if I ever post
>>> Dave, if I ever post something that you feel is trolling or would prompt you to email or “contact” admin just tell me I’m hurting your feelings and I’ll leave the thread.
same for Fly and TOD or anyone else really. <<<
Instead of that, what about being just civil, kind, etc., throughout?
There were good topics to talk about here, I mean tacos, politics, tacos, but the name-calling and bickering flowed like vomit. Come on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:31 pm
It's pretty simple, folks.
It's pretty simple, folks. Turtle has stated it before.
There's just one basic rule.
Don't be a dick.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:33 pm
Who are you calling a dick,
Who are you calling a dick, Dave?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:42 pm
i wonder why "dicks" have a
i wonder why "dicks" have a bad connotation?
they should be good.
well, pussies as well...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:48 pm
No one in particular, and you
No one in particular, and you know damn well what I mean.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:52 pm
Don’t act like you or I have
Don’t act like you or I have been in this thread? Because honestly I thought you were inferring people in this thread were dicks and just wondered who you were referring to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:55 pm
dicks cool kids 3 amigos
dicks
cool kids
3 amigos
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 05:59 pm
dicks
dicks
cool kids
3 amigos
Jort Brigade
douche krewe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:00 pm
I didn't get the email, Timmy
I didn't get the email, Timmy. Own it.
As for JR. He's been posting agro, vindictive, bile-filled garbage towards me and others for years. I have no idea why Admin puts up with it. It doesn't seem to jibe with their mission statement.
I didn't just laugh it off, because I'm drawing the line. I have a mother, sister, female friends and relatives. I cherish each one of them and respect women. JR, not me, is the one posting threads like "How Much Porn Do You Watch" and discussing his exploits at the massage parlors. It's debasing to him and to this place.
I don't hold grudges against anyone. I want what's best for all of us. I hope all of us can continue to grow and be better people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:03 pm
>>>>>I didn't get the email,
>>>>>I didn't get the email, Timmy
No. You sent it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:03 pm
>> It makes you seem so
>> It makes you seem so rational.
Lol. Re-read literally every one of your posts in this thread, bubba. Crazy town.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:05 pm
Dave, I think it should be
Dave, I think it should be pointed out again that you were the first to make a negative, insulting comment/troll post in this thread, directed at someone who was rationally & soberly expressing his serious opinion on a serious subject.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:05 pm
>> JR, not me, is the one
>> JR, not me, is the one posting threads like "How Much Porn Do You Watch" and discussing his exploits at the massage parlors.
I think you might be having your employees narrate the wrong message board to you. Are you sure you didn't accidentally ask them to read you posts from the 6arbagezone?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:07 pm
>>>FACT: Van Morrison wrote
>>>FACT: Van Morrison wrote "Listen to the Lion" about St. Mark
True. He emails me pretty good dad jokes too.
>>>There were good topics to talk about here, I mean tacos, politics, tacos, but the name-calling and bickering flowed like vomit
I understand the piss matches aren't your style, J; but these are the threads that put up the big numbers. If people didn't like em, they couldn't flourish.
You can hope for a "better" world, even do all you can to make it real; but you can't change the fact that this is how how philzone has always been.
Anybody here can start a thread, anytime. The free market of ideas determines which ones succeed, and which ones fail. I've had plenty of both in my carreer here, so I feel like I'm qualified to offer my analysis.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:09 pm
>>>>>>Lol. Re-read literally
>>>>>>Lol. Re-read literally every one of your posts in this thread, bubba. Crazy town.
Start with the one where you said you have your employees read Marks posts.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:10 pm
There are threads about porn
There are threads about porn and massage parlors on the Garbagezone?
Damn, I always miss the good stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:14 pm
Hi dreadbeard.
Hi dreadbeard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:14 pm
Post 600
^Post 600
Also coincidentally the number of pushups Dave said he would surely be doing by the time Jenn filmed him in the park.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:15 pm
Apparently JR isn't cool with
Apparently JR isn't cool with women even though he's successfully procreated and does pretty well in the dating market from what I understand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:17 pm
I respectfully disagree with
I respectfully disagree with your view, Lance. What I said was directly pointed towards and in line with the subject being discussed.
I've never logged onto or read anything from that other site, other than what some of you have posted here. If that's the spirit of community you want to be a part of, feel free to go hang out there. Those were threads JR posted here.
When the old Zone shuttered, many high volume posters like Brick or Duke, recognized the new playing field we were entering and chose to log off. I respect their decision, whether it was because they didn't like the new rules or because they were bored and had moved on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:24 pm
Maybe you should move on,
Maybe you should move on, Java Dave?
Seems like you aren't able to square some of what you post here with the reaction you get; and instead of owning that, you play the victim and require Admin to intervene for you under the auspicious of "understanding the rules". Then when the community reacts negatively to that, you double down and keep the narrative going by reengaging for days after everybody decides to move on from it.
Rinse. Repeat.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: W. Claude Dukenfield Mulemuzik
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:25 pm
Somebody needs to grow a set.
..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ateix
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:29 pm
You wrote it right the first
You wrote it right the first time, Mulemuzik. Dude is sackless.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:33 pm
...
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:37 pm
JR >>>>>>and does pretty well
JR >>>>>>and does pretty well in the dating market from what I understand. << He's a Good Looking Guy _ Like Hoover and JRs Sister Is Hot Sizzle.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:39 pm
lol
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:42 pm
http://www
http://www.emailsfromanasshole.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=111 old link, still works!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:45 pm
this thread lost it's mojo
this thread lost it's mojo
all talk is now about the supreme court
we must resist
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark The Lion
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:50 pm
Lol. Anybody who isn't clear
Lol. Anybody who isn't clear about what trolling is should click on the link Dise posted above^.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 06:55 pm
The classics never die, Mark.
The classics never die, Mark.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:06 pm
I'm just trying to be
I'm just trying to be respectful and of the place and others. I ain't perfect, but that's all I'm aiming for.
If the place is going to be allowed to devolve into unwarranted incivility and dickishness, color me gone.
I let my employee leave early so he and his girlfriend could catch the Robert Plant show, and will be too busy running the store to continue in this thread for now.
Be kind to one another.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:09 pm
Loosen the grip on your
Loosen the grip on your pearls, you knuckles are white.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:22 pm
>>>>>I let my employee leave
>>>>>I let my employee leave early so he and his girlfriend could catch the Robert Plant show
At least someone’s getting laid.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 07:28 pm
>>>Be kind to one another.
>>>Be kind to one another.
Aren’t you the guy who is angry at NFL players for their police protests during the national anthem?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 08:54 pm
For the record, my girlfriend
For the record, my girlfriend and I blew a couple hundred bucks at the strip club last weekend. No happy ending though :(....
P.s. Plf, thank you for the compliment. I put a lot of work into looking good and appreciate the validation. In fact, heading to the salon in a few to work on my base tan.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, June 27, 2018 – 09:08 pm
GTL for life
GTL for life