Can Ryan Adams stay away from little girls?

https://youtu.be/xvOfNmltB6k

At least he wasn't having his goon squad throw the underage girl into the trunk of the car like Jimmy Page did.  And let's not get started on Ted Nugent.

Ted Nugent has hits.

Cryin' Ryan has always been too emo for me. 

yeah and I'm sure there weren't any sexual assaults in the dead scene either. 

oh JFC

Mockingbird is taking fire

It's Trending On Twitter.

And Ryan Getting TORCHED On Twitter As Well.

Well sending dick pics to a 14 year old is never a good look. 

I wonder what Jimmy Page et al think when they see stuff like this gong down. 

Ryan Will NEVER Set Foot In New York Ever Again !!!! Even Though He Has Songs about NY ! and I Question The Writers of The Article Joe Coscarelli and Melena Ryzik  They Could Be GIANT Kooks ? Well Let This Play Out.

Fox News is in New York.

Not Defending Ryan - Has Issues - Love/ Hates With Women - Many Depressing Songs - Probably Bored and Frustrated Alot Of The Time.

6 of the 7 women seem to be talking to the NYT about him being an awful boyfriend. He’s not raping, physically abusing. The underage girl thing is bad yet she was lying to him about her age as well. 

As far as #metoo moments go, this is pretty low on the totem pole. I bet he’ll be allowed back in NYC. 

Edit.

6 of the 7 women seem to be talking to the NYT about him being an awful boyfriend. <<

Well Maybe They Were Shitty Too !! It Happens ____________.

Chicks Can SUCK Too.

Case In point I Was At A Bar recently And i Saw A Chick Literally Swipe My Visa Card off The Bar and Tried To Bail !

Skifuther has a friend who Ryan was enamored with, hopefully he wasn’t mean to her too. 

After reading this article he sounds like a giant douchebag using his position of authority for his own sexual gratification. That shit must suck for women trying to make their way in a chosen career.

FACT - Ryan Adams Will SUE The New York Times And WIN The Case of Allegations Against Him 

put that in your pipe Denny

Fact: Ryan Adams fucks underage soft drinks!

My Last Post on The Subject ^^^^ NAYSAYERS

Got PROOF E ?

Post his best song. 

Even if he sues and wins he's still a giant d-bag, vape that brother.

steady there, plf. never go full melt.

NOW we know what “Beautiful Soda” REALLY means 

Manafort lied and will soon be in prison, trump caves on the wall, if you see a pic of trump hair in the wind....He looks like the Nazi in The Strain and I got 5 more weeks in Florida. No stress here, life is good

Sounds like Ryan was using the "casting couch" - granted he's not as much of a scum bag as Harvey Weinstein, but yuck. Nothing cool about what he did to young  musicians who  trusted they'd be treated professionally. 

"Ryan Will NEVER Set Foot In New York Ever Again !!!!"

That's a bet I'll take.

Skifuther has a friend who Ryan was enamored with

Not true. Although I met and conversed a bit with the woman I referred to, it would be quite a stretch to say we are friends. Just a point of clarification. 

I have found that rushing to any conclusion as to what did or didn't happen with a story like this is not in anybody's best interest. I'm sure more information with come out as time marches forward that will clarify things a bit more. 

Not good.

"he sounds like a giant douchebag using his position of authority for his own sexual gratification"

How long until the Bob Weir stories break??????

Imagine if someone interviewed all of your ex's and people who kinda' came within your orbit, then rolled up any disparaging comments into a bizarre hit piece, for inclusion in the New York Times.

This is way way out there. 

>>>Imagine if someone interviewed all of your ex's and people who kinda' came within your orbit, then rolled up any disparaging comments into a bizarre hit piece, for inclusion in the New York Times.

Yeah...I can't say I have a shiny perfect life but there are definitely no stories about trying to hook up with underage girls and using my career power to do so.   

>>>FACT - Ryan Adams Will SUE The New York Times And WIN The Case of Allegations Against Him

You must know more than I.  Seems like they have plenty of witnesses to support the article.   If it was one or two, maybe you'd be right.    Hate to say it, but with his head case temperament, I'd be fearful of something darker.  

I think we all know what sin replaces love now. 

Oh boy...

http://thephilzone.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2167

Bob weir prolly had lotsa fun back in the 70's-80's, pretty sure he wasn't date raping any little girls. 

>>>>>>>Bob weir prolly had lotsa fun back in the 70's-80's, pretty sure he wasn't date raping any little girls

Yeah, he probably didn’t take them on dates.

Jason Isbell's response:

Jason Isbell Retweeted Joseph Carson

Yep.

Jason Isbell added,

Joseph Carson @JoeCarsonJr

Replying to @JasonIsbell

The real question is do you believe it?

4:06 PM - 13 Feb 2019

https://twitter.com/JasonIsbell/status/1095836520697774080

Bobby met his wife when she was 15. She’d come back to his hotel suite and sleep on the couch, while Bobby banged multiple hotties in the bedroom. They had no physical encounters until she was legal. 

Yeah, I believe that...

"I need you to log on to Skype and watch me masturbate to Morrisey while I cry.  If you don't I'll kill myself."

-Ryan Adams

Hoover's movie trailer was 1000 times better than anything Blue Light has ever produced!

I wonder how nervous John Mayer is right now?

Mayer joined DeadCo to remove himself from temptation. He gets no play from the sausage fest.

I was thinking more about girls from his past speaking up.  Like Bricks friends sister or whoever he Irish-skidooed on.

Who writes these headlines?

Dangled success his weiner.

Billy Gibbons wife/girlfriend, Gilligan hooked up with him when she was still a teen. Their story is no hanky panky until she was legal. She was the girl in a tee shirt. 

He should start a new band and call it Whiskeydick.

Actually looks to me like Mandy is getting ready to sue Ryan for financial losses incurred due to his abusive behavior.. Though I have loved Ryan’s music, this is all very believable... They have the text messages... to me it sounds like he was coaching and grooming this girl to lie to him about her age.. pretty disgusting and creepy.. 

the internet is not a good place for him

How long until the Bob Weir stories break??????

"Well, she was just 14, but she had the body of an 8 year old."

-Bob Weir, 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBO0waUKbPM&t=0m19s

I'm BUMMED About This ( Also The Writer Joe From The NYT Is A Clown ! ) I'll Pray For Ryan and Hope He Does Not Go Off The Deep end and The Women Find Strength - Holding In RAGE Is NOT Good For Anyone - Move On With Your Lives Towards HAPPINESS !

Men and Women SEX IS OVERRATED and LUST and All The BULLSHIT In Between and Stupid and Dangerous !

I Always Thought and Still Do MANDY MOORE SUCKS !

Isbells Kinda Of A KOOK Too ! Ryan Helped HIM With His Struggles With Alcohol !

plf, the degree to which you are invested in this story is really strange.

Ryan Pay That Bitch MM Off And GET THE FUCK OUT OF SMELL L.A. 

ALASKA Anyone ?

Larry I AM A Ryan Adams Fan And See Goodness In Him Too

and I Have Had My Share Of BS From Women Too Ruining At Times.

MFEBRUARY 13, 2019 AT 11:40 PM

In other news, Adam’s supergroup collaboration “Pelvic Thrust” featuring Mike Gordon, Boyd Tinsley, andAnthony Kiedis will postpone their release cover version of “Great Balls of Fire”.Initially recorded to be included on the Harvey Weinstein Legal Defense Fund cd, their scheduled appearance at the Fire Island Jazz Fest may also be in Jeopardy. Pictures at 11.

Read more: https://jambands.com

musicians / egos?

?

^ with R. Kelly on vocals

Julian Casablancas (The Strokes) was pissed at Ryan for bringing drugs over to their bass player Albert Hammond Jr.'s house.

“Ryan would always come and wake me at two in the morning and have drugs, so I’d just do the drugs and kind of numb out,” Hammond said in the oral history. “I knew I would shoot up drugs from a very young age. I’d been wanting to do heroin since I was 14 years old.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ryan-adams-rips-the-stroke...

Bill Cosby will be both managing and doing an opening monologue for Pelvic Thrust.

plf is beginning to read like a closeted incel. victim shaming and calling women bitches isn't a good look, plf. 

Here is an op-ed piece on Ryan Adams and the problem of "beta male misogyny" in the world of "indie music":

 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/the-ryan-adams-allegations...

Remember when Zoners were ragging on RA, he threw a hissy fit, went crying to Yoko, and she made her man get the place shut down?

Damn, those were the good old days.

They also showed me that RA is a big bitch.

RA, was the end P&F for me.

Whatever happened to the days when creepy older guys could away with scarring 15 year old girls?

The guys a douche. If you’ve ever thought differently you’re most likely a douche too. 

>>>>Here is an op-ed piece on Ryan Adams and the problem of "beta male misogyny" in the world of "indie music":

Its an interesting subject. 

Rock and Roll and sex and sexuality have always been intertwined to me. Growing up, reading and hearing stories about groupies and musicians, it seemed like becoming a “rock star” came with the benefit of infinite access to women who were willing to be with their musical idols, no strings attached. 

Fast-forward to now. 

I have never in my life said to anyone that “I’m an alpha male” or “I’m a beta male”, so the whole concept of “beta male misogyny” is a foreign concept to me. My initial reaction after reading the article in the Guardian is that if investigative journalists want to start turning over rocks that they will find hundreds of men and possibly even a few women who have abused their power in return for sex. 

It’s going to take a while for me to wrap my mind around all of this. Having been sexually abused as a kid I have nothing but sympathy for “Ava” and I’m glad that her interactions with him were only on-line. 

As for the adult women, I have less sympathy. Maybe because I’m a guy I don’t “get it”. Maybe because I grew up in a different time I don’t “get it”. 

I just know that this all sucks. 

>>>>The guys a douche. If you’ve ever thought differently you’re most likely a douche too

hey have I ever told you what a douche bag you seem like? 

Remember when Phil got mad because everyone was bagging on Ryan Adams? Was it RBG who got personally chastised by Phil or someone else? Classic moments.

Personally i really liked the Ryan Adams covers by Phil and Friends, just didn't want him in the band.

He's a lot better than Jackie greene

Don't worry there will be plenty of time later to bag on Jackie Greene, today its Ryan Adams.

He compared John Mayer to Dylan recently.

Yeah, no.

 Ryan Adams is my generations Neil Young

>>>>Reaper's humiliation might have been related to something else.

I recall he said some not so nice things about Jill Lesh.   That's when Phil dove in for a personal public shaming and banning.

>hey have I ever told you what a douche bag you seem

And you are?

Aside from a joke that has to hide their original screen name out of embarrassment...

Phil douched big time going after RBG and Reaper.  

>>>>And you are?

i’d imagine that enjoying Ryan Adams music isn’t high on the list of reasons as to why I’d be a douche but I’m more of a “live and let live” kind of douche, you know? 

Ryan's made good music. Ryan is a douche of a person. Neither are inclusive of the other.  

This one is the worst:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt3-8Y0lNw0/

not sure why famous people need to do this?

I’m waiting for the tweet from Letterman next 

Reminds me of the Sopranos episode where uninterested in his job or in going back to college, A.J. spends most of his time hanging out in New York nightclubs with his high school buddy Hernan O'Brien and his new friends, some of them underage girls. His club acquaintances are impressed with him because of who his father is. A.J. brags to one of the girls and implies he will take revenge on Junior for shooting Tony. To afford more clubbing, A.J. sells the drum kit Tony gave him as a gift. While the pair are fishing on Tony's boat, A.J. asks what they are going to do about Junior; Tony tells A.J. he should not concern himself with Junior. In session with Dr. Melfi, Tony complains about A.J.'s laziness and asks for advice. Melfi says modern youth are overwhelmed with information and reach maturity later than previous generations, and suggests that Tony and Carmela impose concrete rules. A.J. asks his parents to provide him a nightclub to manage but gets little support from them. Carmela wants A.J. to study event planning and Tony offers to get him a place at Beansie's pizzeria.

One day, A.J. tries to get up early but ends up sleeping past noon; at Carmela's urging to do something important as he planned, A.J. takes a knife and visits Junior in the mental hospital. When Junior sees A.J., he begs him to take him home. Petrified, A.J. drops the knife and is tackled by orderlies as he tries to escape. After arranging for Assemblyman Zellman for a favor to have A.J. released from custody without criminal charges, Tony picks up A.J. and violently confronts him. In tears, A.J. calls his father a hypocrite because Tony admires Michael Corleone for avenging the attempted murder of his father in The Godfather. Tony, although touched by his son's intentions, tells him that he needs to grow up and to never tell Carmela about the incident. During A.J.'s next night out clubbing, one of Hernan's friends asks him to get Tony to intimidate his landlord. Retreating to the restroom, A.J. has a panic attack.

Vito, pretending to be a writer named "Vince", spends more time at Jim's diner in New Hampshire. One evening, he witnesses Jim performing a heroic rescue of a young child while working as a volunteer firefighter and later compliments him on his heroism. Jim, who is revealed to also be a father, takes an interest in Vito's book and questions him about the lonely life of a writer. Meanwhile, Vito steals the cell phone of a fellow guest at his bed-and-breakfast and calls his wife, Marie. She begs him to come home and tells him that Phil wishes to put him through "treatment" for Vito's homosexuality. Vito tells her not to trust Phil, and instructs her where to find $30,000 cash in the house. Marie puts their son on the phone, and Vito has a brief, pained conversation with him. Vito spends an evening with Jim and other firefighters at a local roadhouse. Later, after admiring Jim's motorcycle in the parking lot, Vito rejects his sexual advances. The two throw punches and Jim leaves Vito beaten.

Days later, Vito goes back to the diner to reconcile, telling Jim that "sometimes you tell a lie so long, you don't know when you are safe" and the two decide to patch things up. They then take a motorcycle ride together that results in a romantic picnic and them having sex in a secluded field. Back in Jersey, Chris suggests to Tony that Carloshould kill him if he is ever found to appease "the crews." Phil pressures Tony to find Vito, and warns that he will not swallow his pride on this issue like he did when Tony B killed Billy. Phil tells Tony that if his father was around, there wouldn't be any discussion about Vito's fate. Phil then reiterates that Vito shamed his family. Tony responds by walking away in a huff. Meanwhile, during Melfi's own psychotherapy session with Dr. Kupferberg, she becomes annoyed by Kupferberg's interest in Tony's therapy. Melfi blurts out her belief that Tony's unwillingness to talk about his feelings to Junior will eventually make him "decompensate."

While collecting their take, Burt and Patsy find themselves unable to extort money from the manager of a major coffee chain. Julianna Skiff, a real estate agent representing Jamba Juice, approaches Tony and asks if he is interested in selling the building he rents to Caputo's Poultry, one of the other businesses Burt and Patsy take collections from. Tony rejects the deal, stating that the poultry store is part of the neighborhood. Skiff next seeks out Tony at the Bada Bing and makes an increased offer on the building. Tony again declines, but tells her he is interested in Skiff sexually and asks her out to dinner. Mentioning the new outlook brought about by the shooting, Tony tells her that he knows what he wants in life. Stating that she is engaged to another man, she turns him down. Tony hints ideas about having an affair to Melfi, but then tells her he could not bring himself to do it because of Carmela's affection to him during his recuperation.

Julianna calls Tony with a third offer on the building of about $495,000, which he accepts, but asks her to let him come to her apartment that evening, ostensibly to complete the paperwork. In his bedroom, while Tony is dressing for the encounter, Carmela helps pick out a shirt for him and assists him in buttoning it up. At Julianna's, after Tony signs the paperwork, the two start kissing passionately, and Julianna starts unbuttoning Tony's shirt. Tony makes her stop and abruptly departs, heading home to Carmela where he is on a tear, claiming his anger is due to the lack of smoked turkey in the fridge.

Burt and Patsy later revisit Caputo's Poultry to collect the weekly take, and Caputo, furious, informs the pair that Tony has sold the building to Jamba Juice. Outside, Patsy laments, "What the fuck is happening to this neighborhood?"

"I don't care if you have homework!  Put on your Cold Roses t shirt and sing Wonderwall to me or I'll kill myself!"

-Ryan Adams

Did he ruin your musical career too? 

I’m a big fan.  This doesn’t change anything for me.  I’m able to separate art from artist.

I think Bucky is more bummed than plf.

Condolences, sports dude. 

thanks, guy who asks questions on a dbmb

Ryan never responds to any of my attempted online correspondence.  I guess I wasn’t young or female enough.

I ran into him and Neal Casal before a show in Champaign, IL. I said hi and asked if they knew which way the venue was. They pointed it out but weren’t otherwise nice at all. 

Tilt

Don't bring Neil Into this thread

 un lucky      That your generation is.....

He met his wife Natascha after a show when she was 15 years old and she sneaked backstage. They say the relationship was platonic until years later, after Jerry Garcia's death and as Weir was "edging towards 50."

https://www.cnn.com/2014/04/25/showbiz/grateful-dead-bob-weir/index.html

"I need you to log on to Skype and watch me masturbate to Morrisey while I cry.  If you don't I'll kill myself."

-Ryan Adams  <<<<<

If That Is Really True Then THAT Is REALLY Fucked Up .

the internet is not a good place for him << This !! Neither Is SMELL L.A.

Even Mike Gordon had enough sense to drop the denim on denim look. 

Never mind Hoover Is being Hoover .......jeebus   Let The Chicks CRY O.K.

I Hope Ryan Tours ( i know no one will show up ) .... I Will ! - If Anyone Fucks With Him and i'm There - Well get ready !

"I need you to log on to Skype and watch me masturbate to Morrisey while I cry.  If you don't I'll kill myself."

-Ryan Adams  <<<<<

Hoover If You Made That Up THAT Is DEMENTED and Not Funny.

Actually, that was the funniest thing I’ve read on this site in weeks.

Shit just got real. brace yourself, Plf

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/14/arts/music/ryan-adams-fbi-explicit-co...

Nobody Cares and I'm Out Of Pot Signed ME ! Rob !!

Nancy i'm Not into Scare Tactics  .. OR Joes STUPID NYTs Article

when Ava was 16, included explicit photographs of her.<  WELL Ryan Did Not Take The Pics SO THERE !

Any Comments

NOT Buying This CRAP ! Ava

Not saying the dude did it, but it’s illegal to ask a minor to send nude pics. If they do, even on their own, it’s illegal to possess those pics.

Maybe She Lured Him Lied About Her Age - Ryan Stoned probably and Took the Bait ??? i do not know the BS - I  If She Was Under 18 - He Would Throw That Anchovy Overboard ! and also Fuck Laura Marling and a Freak -  She Is Full Of Revenge too.

from that "STUPID" New York Times article. 

>The F.B.I. is looking into whether the singer-songwriter Ryan Adams, 44, committed a crime by engaging in sexually explicit communications with an underage fan, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the matter.

As reported by The New York Times on Wednesday, Adams and a young woman, who said her online communications with the singer began when she was 14 and continued until she was 16, exchanged text messages and conducted video calls that sometimes included nudity. The two never met in person.

Adams, through his lawyer, Andrew B. Brettler, has denied that he “ever engaged in inappropriate online sexual communications with someone he knew was underage.” On Thursday, Brettler said that he had not been contacted by law enforcement. He declined to comment further.

In response to The Times’s article, F.B.I. agents in the bureau’s New York office on Thursday took the first steps to open a criminal investigation, according to the official, who declined to be identified because the person was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

"I need you to log on to Skype and watch me masturbate to Morrisey while I cry.  If you don't I'll kill myself."

The Onion?

Pretty sure that quote is mostly accurate. The Morrisey and crying part might be embellished. 

plf sure is scraping the bottom.  jeez man, come on... those above comments will not age well. 

"If you can't make me cum before I write a song I'll kill myself!"

-Ryan Adams

His brother Jesse has yet to release a statement.

Ryan Adams’ New Album Big Colors Pulled From Release After Abuse Allegations

https://pitchfork.com/news/ryan-adams-new-album-big-colors-pulled-from-r...

Didn't Mayer and Bobby separately do a collab something or another recently with him?

Adams has recruited some prominent political reporters to help announce the albums’ releases. MSNBC’s Katy Tur first shared details of Big Colors; now, Politco’s Jake Sherman has unveiled the title and artwork for Adams’ second album, Wednesdays. Additionally, Adams will be divulging more information on Big Colors, including a tracklist, tomorrow through Washington Post’s Power Up.

I bet Lyle Lovett has done some pretty questionable things sexually.

Katy Tur is a big Phish fan she often quotes Phish lyrics on her show. I am sure they will all pull their support for Ryan 

Katy Tur stuck with Phish through the Mike Gordon “boathouse photos with a minor” incident but is breaking up with Ryan? 

Devastating news at 11. 

That’s not his brother Jesse, pictured above. 

Ryan’s brother died of suicide recently so he won’t be releasing a statement. His name was Chris. 

You're right, that's actually his cousin Jesse.

Have you ever let someone derail your career, 4winds? 

What?  Not about me.  Who is derailing his career other than himself?  Always been a big fan of Ryan; however, his actions are shameful.

mmm hmmm 

^ weak troll

I don’t doubt that, had there been social media in the 60s - 90s, a lot of rock stars would be in the same boat as RA.

In this day and age, where info can be disseminated in seconds, and people are eagerly looking for naughty behavior, things are different.

If RA loses his career over this, it’s on him. At the end of the day, though, if he’s still putting out good music, people will still buy tickets and albums. Shitty behavior is expected of rock stars, so people give them a pass.

>>>>^ weak troll

Sure thing Washy. Maybe post a pic of yourself so we can find your relatives on line too. 

Sweet logic.  

Isn’t it though? Yeah. Making fun of people’s looks is a great look. Very enlightened. 

Person comes in to be a troll, immediately accuses someone of trolling them. Awesome. 

I hope you get blown safely home soon. Thanks for playing. 

>>>>had there been social media in the 60s - 90s, a lot of rock stars would be in the same boat as RA.

So true.  Glad social media and instant sharing of pictures wasn't around when I was a teenager.

That being said, Jerry Lee Lewis' career took a hit when he ran off with his 13-year-old cousin.  But I guess the Killer made an honest woman out of her by marrying her, which ultimately made it a little more acceptable.     

don't go...

>>>>don’t go 

yeah, that’s part of the problem, see. thanks for pointing that out. 

>>>I bet Lyle Lovett has done some pretty questionable things sexually.

Was having that exact conversation the other night but others thought not.   I tend to agree with you.  

Bucky, have you ever pleasured yourself to a picture of RA?  Be honest.  This seems to hit a little too close to home for you.

The 70’s were a different time, but Jimmy Page, David Bowie, and others survived worse scandals...

https://www.vintag.es/2018/06/jimmy-page-lori-maddox.html?m=1

i hope plf gets some weed.

I don’t doubt that, had there been social media in the 60s - 90s, a lot of rock stars would be in the same boat as RA.

In this day and age, where info can be disseminated in seconds, and people are eagerly looking for naughty behavior, things are different.

im willing to bet that today, the mere release of mexicali blues would be a scandal...maybe not as significant as the harassment scandals going around but it would not be a smooth album release...a song like that today could end a career. 

I read Hammer of The Gods many years ago.

Roy Estrada (Zappa, Little Feat) is in jail.  Artimus Pyle is persona non grata with the Lynyrd Skynyrd family.  Gary Glitter went to jail. Their downfalls predate the rise of social media and the Metoo movement.

>>>Bucky, have you ever pleasured yourself to a picture of RA?  Be honest.

Wow that’s a weird question, 

You want to discuss what I masturbate to?

Please don’t ask to Skype with me. 

“Always been a big fan of Ryan; however, his actions are shameful.”

One hour later: asks me about jerking off. 

Good stuff right there, 

There’s nothing shameful about jerking off. 

Wow that’s a weird question>>>

Its an easy yes or no answer?

I’ve pleasured myself to a picture of Mandy Moore, and RA happened to be in it. Does that count?

>>>It’s an easy yes or no answer? 

No I’ve never massaged my penis while looking at a picture of Ryan Adams. 

Are you happy now, 4winds and Foghorn? Fucking creeps. Are you gonna send me some dick pics next? Do you even know how old I am? 

And maybe come up with some fresh material, like if I masturbate to Morrisey. 

Are you guys trying to find out if I’m gay and trying to shame me or something? 

What if I DID masturbate to pictures of Ryan Adams? Would you feel lesser of me? 

Sounds like it 

Would you feel lesser of me? >>>

absolutely not

(((puff)))

4.9 and three posts in a row.  Simmer down.

>>Do you even know how old I am? 

Ancient.  Close?

>>(((puff)))

oof

I see your true colors, shining through. 

>>>>Simmer down

aka “please stop pointing out what a flawed and hypocritical person I am while I’m mocking another flawed person”

go get your shine box 

good morning lil schoolgirl, can I come a home witch you? Tell your mama and your papa, Im a lil schoolboy too

I wanna put a [easy] tiger, baby,  right in your sweet little tank...  go ahead now

As of early this afternoon eastern time, it looks like the NY Times has obtained a detailed history of Bucky's browsing habits in relation to indecent photographs of Ryan Adams, and while no photos or videos of Mr. Adams was found, they did find some damning information and are posing the question as to whether or not the admins of Viva La Zone should continue to allow his account to operate considering these possibly disturbing revelations. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/arts/music/bucks-dbmb-post-history-re...

Bucky, were you around when RA had a temper tantrum because the Zone didn’t love him, and he had the place shut down?

In my mind, the dude deserves all the ribbing he gets. Fuck, I’ve taken 10x the shit that that bitch has, and I never went sobbing to Admin. We’re all flawed. He’s a cunt.

i hope plf gets some weed. <<

T - i found a little thanks

sorry about my stupid Posts above

and YES Ryan Is An IDIOT

Fuck that guy!

((((((((((maybe she lured him))))))))))

Yes, just like the altar boys lured the catholic priests

plf is wary of these flappers and harlots, with their low cut dresses, new styles of dance and devilish jazz music, luring respectable men by exposing their legs and smoking reefers

*Django Reinhart music intensifies

O.K. Larry But WRONG ha ha

Here Is The BOZO Who Wrote The NYT Article.

Journalists are the enemy of the people..err pedophiles!!!

Keep up the good fight, PLF. have you donated to Cryin Ryan’s legal defense fund yet?

And please don’t go all Bluelight on us, m’kay?

Looks like someone is out of herb again.

May I suggest scraping your bowl and doing a hot knife of resin?

Brian, since you seem to be the expert on the topic, is PLF "admittedly" M.I.?

Do we need to stop engaging? Or just hope he gets stoned, and fast?

Admittedly? Nah. A couple of bong hits would probably do the trick.

I’ve been wondering, how does one run out of herb in CA, where it’s legal, plentiful and cheap?

And please don’t go all Bluelight on us, m’kay?

If you look toward the horizon, you might cath a glimpse of that ship.  But you better hurry

yeah. ^

> A couple of bong hits would probably do the trick.

except that bong hits don't solve pedo pervs...

>I’ve been wondering, how does one run out of herb in CA, where it’s legal, plentiful and cheap?

One doesn't, BK. That ain't the problem. 

This is a pretty good thread.

As for me, since the first time I saw Ryan live I've been a big fan, and have pretty much loved every show I've ever seen him perform.

That being said, years before I knew anything about him or his music I had a good idea that he was a screwed up, extremely flawed person. Years before I had any exposure to him a number of my friends hated Ryan because he once had a temper tantrum during a Whiskeytown soundcheck at the SF Fillmore and threw a brand new monitor off the stage, busting the monitor and gouging a hole in the dance floor. (One of those friends has been ripping on Ryan and that incident again lately because of these new accusations.)

Any time his name or music would come up all they could do was bag on what a douche he was, but once I saw him perform and became a fan I often have argued the line hoover put up earlier about separating the art from the artist, something that is pretty important if you want to enjoy great art, especially if you have behind the scene access to the person and not just their art.

So I'm still a fan of his art and always will be because to me he's a brilliant artist, but damn Sam, once again his actions as a person sure seem to show a very screwed up person. I'll likely pay see him again in concert, but I doubt I'd ever invite him into my house.

This thing is a huge mess for everyone involved, and IMO he'll deserve whatever he gets from his foolish, reprehensible actions. No one deserves to be controlled & manipulated in the ways these stories are telling, and I feel bad for the kid particularly, but at the moment I'm also feeling pity for Ryan, because in almost all ways the guy comes off as an incredibly screwed up, unhappy, unsatisfied person which leads him to unacceptable actions (i.e. a douche) which is always a shame.

Yeah, he seems like a douche too.

But can he sing?

the real question is, can plf stay away from ryan adams?

What a mess...smh

Hey now, I just got back from my evening out and I see that Plf was REALLY ranting at the end of his multiple Goodby Cruel Zone posts in that disastrous thread he started that has now been shut down.

Anybody know how to reach out to that guy and make sure he's OK?

Come back to us Plf. I promise I won't call you dude or tease you about your unique punctuation style anymore.

Only other zoner besides Plf that I can recall threatening suicide was Streetvan.Maybe Newfun did too?  Makes for an Epic depature, virtually speaking. 

Of course anyone actually contemplating suicide should seek help. Call a suicide hotline number. Seriously, Rob.  

Threatening suicide or blaming others  is a good sign that one should seek mental health care and log off chat sites are that upsetting. 

That includes RA and anyone who may be dealing with pain and/or criminal allegations.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

Call 1-800-273-8255

Available 24 hours everyday

Phoebe Bridges (instagram): It’s been a weird week and I wanted to say a couple things. 
Thank you from my whole fucking heart to my friends, my bands, my mom. They all supported and validated me. They told me that what had happened was fucked up and wrong, and that I was right to feel weird about it. I couldn’t have done this without them. 
Ryan had a network too. Friends, bands, people he worked with. None of them held him accountable. They told him, by what they said or by what they didn’t, that what he was doing was okay. They validated him. He couldn’t have done this without them. 
Guys, if your friend is acting fucked up, call them out. If they’re actually your friend, they’ll listen. That’s the way this all gets better.

more on the topic:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jenny-lewis-ryan-adams-dee...

Hey Rob, if you’re still reading Viva I hope you’re doing better today than yesterday.  Sucks about Ryan but the music is still good (except for most of the stuff after Easy Tiger).  Get some tacos, spin some tunes, get your toes in the ocean, and enjoy the rest of the weekend.  Most important; don’t hurt yourself.  Love ya Buddy.  

While Phoebe may be right, it's not so simple as just holding the person accountable. If you try... The afflicted person with power just fires you and hires someone else for their band. Not an easy place for the artist trying to pay the bills and create a career. 

Weird thread, Nanc seems to be expressing suppressed guilt.

Remember plf, you are loved by many people including myself. Hoover gave you some pretty good advice. Hope you're doing better today. 

Word.  Judit has my email if you ever want to drop a line.  Hope you're enjoying sunny California today.

Plf, I have been diagnosed with intractable pain. I disagree with the diagnosis.  Just chronic .. I have and am finding ways to deal with it. Yet it does

affect the way I think some times.

Some good posts above. Chime in if you want to talk on the phone,Bro.

So, in case you’re worried about Rob, don’t be. His twitter, easily searchable from the post above, is very active today retweeting about the Daytona 500, PGA, and giving female TV reporters his assessment about their use of make-up. 

>While Phoebe may be right, it's not so simple as just holding the person accountable

when victims of abuse speak up and stand up for one another - like the teens and women Ryan has harmed -  it’s a start. But yes, in a perfect world they wouldn’t be victimized at all. hopefully having incidents like this being exposed and investigated will act as a deterrent for other creeps in the business. It’s obviously a complicated issue, but the #metoo movement is promising.

jazz fish, I’m sorry you’re  in pain too and hope you’re not gonna claim you’re suicidal either. Pain though is no excuse for being a creep. A perv, a manipulative asshole, and/or a misogynistic prick.

 Suppressed guilt? Sure thing, Doc. Whatever you say. Lol.

>>>Sucks about Ryan but the music is still good (except for most of the stuff after Easy Tiger).

maybe if he'd focused more on the music over the last decade and a spent a little less time victimizing women, things could have been different.

>>>but the music is still good (except for most of the stuff after Easy Tiger)<<<

Every time I see him play live, the music is still good. A friend at that Chris Cornell tribute show just a few weeks ago said Ryan KILLED it there.

Who cares about records?

The music is still good.

On a related note, Weiner is out

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/18/695640275/ex-congressman-anthony-weiner-f...

>>>>A friend at that Chris Cornell tribute show just a few weeks ago said Ryan KILLED it there.

i heard the same thing about Miley Cyrus

>>>Who cares about records?

his greatest strength is as a songwriter

Ryan’s guitar player for the last few years, Todd, bravely speaks out, after hearing that anyone who has ever worked with Ryan is actually an enabler. 

Nanc, just stop your gang up and innuendos on fellow zoners that are down.  Very f**king trumpish.

Check your package and carry on.

You should be embarrassed. 

>>Todd, bravely speaks out, after hearing that anyone who has ever worked with Ryan is actually an enabler. 

Sure, now that Ryan's been exposed as a dirtball.  So brave.

He WANTED to speak out but was afraid for the safety of his family.

OF COURSE, sounds legit.

Like Kadlicek, he is literally putting his life at risk to play for you people.

>>>his greatest strength is as a songwriter<<<

Meh. He's a prolific songwriter for sure, and he's written many fine songs, but IMO his greatest strength is as a singer and his presence & gravitas as a performer.

Even with all his songs, if he sang like Ross James he'd be working in a comic book store and paying off his 2012 Toyota Camry from the royalties of his songs he had sold to others to sing.

And maybe playing in an Iron Maiden cover band.

Cryin’ Ryan isn’t a zoner, Jaz. my remarks were directed at him..and the dimwited crybabies who defend the creep. 

>>>>> and his presence & gravitas as a performer.

It all seems more fake than before. 

I remember when Phil called out peeps on the zone for trashing Ryan Adams...he shut it down for a few days......the rev being a reporter for star magazine comes to mind....

Yup, and now look what happened. 

Phil has some ‘splaining to do. 

Maybe we should all apologize for ever having anything to do with Ryan Adams

Too late for apologies, I’m afraid.

(psst, I was joking about Phil. He certainly was a doosh to those who were critical of his boy though)

>>>Too late for apologies, I’m afraid

dang.

well, can we at least all agree to collectively disown Ryan Adams then?

Sure, although some aren’t willing to go so far as to disown his music, and I’m okay with that.

I never owned any myself, but won’t hold it against anyone who continues to listen to their favorite RA albums. 

Wonder if  Phil will invite RA to play with him and at TXR after  every other musician disowns him

The sadness is mine
The sadness is mine
Its why you're not healing me
And whatever has come for me
Oh I can give you whatever you're wanting
Just take it and spare me spare me
Please oh tell me this is only a warning/no
Please have mercy let me go

Cool, see?

we've already begun the healing process

Nancy, did you get rid of your Janet Jackson records after she exposed herself at the Super Bowl?

Like I ever owned any Jackson albums, lol. And dude, there’s no comparison to RA

maybe you’re thinking about the pedo Michael Jackson? 

So, no?

So ...I have no idea what you’re talking about

Yeah.

whatchu talkin bout, herbaldave?

thanks JR I Consider YOU A Friend after spending Time with you and that Knockout Bartender babe Years ago. Rob

Phil told us that Ryan was the closest thing to Jerry Garcia he had come across.

In retrospect, what was he trying to tell us about Jerry???

I saw a documentary recently that painted Jerry as a flawed individual who had bad relationships with women.