Gun control, and funding for mental health services.
Crazy people everywhere in the streets these days. I always hear officials fall back on some version of "it all goes back to the Reagan-era policies that de-funded mental health". Okay, why don't we change those policies?
Ironic, because the guy wasn't Anglo-Saxon and was of Italian and Iranian descent. His instagram posts also railed against "mestizos" and "Silicon Valley white twats."
<< Santino William Legan, who was shot dead by police Sunday before he could do more damage, posted online about an 1890 racist manifesto, “Might is Right or The Survival of the Fittest,” NBC News confirmed.
“Read Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,” Legan posted on his Instagram page. He then used a slurs against mixed-race people and misogynistic descriptions of white Silicon Valley workers, complaining about "hordes" of them "overcrowding" towns.
Redbeard, which was a pseudonym, argued that only strength and violence determined what is morally right. The work, which is filled with misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, is a staple among neo-Nazis and white supremacists on extremist sites.
And the phrase “might is right” is often posted as a sort of motto or catchphrase indicating white supremacy on neo-Nazi extremist forums.
Legan was also apparently no fan of the festival, a three-day food fair that began in 1979 to celebrate the local garlic industry — and which was in walking distance from his home on a tree-lined street in Gilroy.
“Ayyy garlic festival time,” his post read. “Come get wasted on overpriced s---.”
Below that was a post from someone named futboieden, which read “when you get too wasted and accidentally shoot up the festival.”
Just who futboieden was remained unclear a day after the nation was left grappling with yet another mass shooting. This one claimed the lives of 6-year-old Stephen Romero, a 13-year-old girl, and a man in his 20s. The names of the other two victims were not released.
Investigators also said they were looking into reports that Legan might have had an accomplice but said that had not been confirmed. They said the AK-47-style assault rifle Legan used in the shooting was purchased July 9 in Nevada. >>
Turns out the three armed cops on the scene didn’t shoot him after all, in spite of the credit given. The Gilroy shooter killed himself according to the coroners report.
its very hard to have a debate in this country about gun control and assult weapons when nobody seems willing to talk about the actual reason why most people want those kinds of high powered assault rifles - to protect themselves against the possibility of our government turning into some sort of dictatorship that is trying to control people in any number of classic authoritarian figures.
the one side just asks why anyone would need an assault rifle and the other side responds by making incredibly general statements about the second amendment or protecting themselves from criminals. simple home or personal protection can obviously be achieved with a small handgun or something...id imagine that most folks who own assault rifles are either gun enthusiasts, like to shoot for sport, or they own them "just in case shit hits the fan".
IMO thats the single best argument against gun control and banning assault weapons...an armed populace with civilian militias has a much better chance of standing up to the US government if "shit hits the fan" and things go authoritarian. and then to have that very same government, the very thing you are arming yourself against, place all kinds of controls and regulations around gun ownership, could be seen as a "slippery slope" to removing gun rights and instituting more authoritarian policies in other aspects of american life, probably sounds totally nuts to these kinds of folks.
this isnt really my stance on the issue, personally i think the US governement and military is so well armed, with such fantastical technology, that no amount of assault rifles in american homes or civilian militias could ever, ever stop them in a "shit hit the fan" scenario...so basically gun ownership to protect against government overreach or takeover is futile, and we should institute alot of these gun controls.
but nobody is talking about this - its all centered around hunting, sport, protection from criminals, etc. i dont think we will make much progress in this debate until this point of view is discussed on the mainstream news and in the halls of the house and senate.
>>>why most people want those kinds of high powered assault rifles - to protect themselves against the possibility of our government turning into some sort of dictatorship that is trying to control people in any number of classic authoritarian figures
is there any overlap between the people who support the police and the troops and the people who want to have high-powered assault rifles to fight off the government in case it turns on its own citizens?
because then those people would support the troops and police but still reserve the right to murder them in an efficient manner just in case they’re REALLY REALLY wrong about them.
I know there’s a better way to put that but I’ve been micro-dabbing all day
>> is there any overlap between the people who support the police and the troops and the people who want to have high-powered assault rifles to fight off the government in case it turns on its own citizens?
because then those people would support the troops and police but still reserve the right to murder them in an efficient manner just in case they’re REALLY REALLY wrong about them. <<
Oath Keepers
Three Pecenters
I think calling it “overlap” would be generous. It’s intentional.
Some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses.
Oh hey here’s a picture from this morning of 21 year-old Thom Bartram outside of an immigration detention facility in El Paso. He had a gun and ammunition on him. Hard to figure out his motives though, the NYT is investigating and will get back to us,
The kid said he was wearing the blue gloves because he was eating prickly pears and the white powder was a protein supplement, so he's waving around a knife that he was obviously using to cut up the prickly pears and putting the white powder on the pears and the gun is for self defense in case he gets attacked by angry liberals. (thats a great pic btw, sums it up perfectly)
i can understand how a 20 something could be drawn to far right ideas, or racism, or white power movements, or the proud boys, or any number of things like that
cant even begin to understand how kids in their 20's in the year 2019 are joining "team mitch".
>>>i can understand how a 20 something could be drawn to far right ideas, or racism, or white power movements, or the proud boys, or any number of things like that
cant even begin to understand how kids in their 20's in the year 2019 are joining "team mitch". <<<
yes, totally.
because they still live with their parents, and have likely only ever had one single television news channel on toxic repeat playing in the home 5 hours a night.
>>>but why are our citizens so mentally ill that they want to kill each other?
I feel much of it has to do with the fact we're extremely over prescribed all sorts of medications. The American people have been sold out to big Pharma... we're bombarded with a dizzying amount of ads for prescriptions. I don't think it's right that these meds are marketed directly to us as consumers.
>>>but why are our citizens so mentally ill that they want to kill each other?
I feel much of it has to do with the fact we're extremely over prescribed all sorts of medications. The American people have been sold out to big Pharma... we're bombarded with a dizzying amount of ads for prescriptions. I don't think it's right that these meds are marketed directly to us as consumers.
We are becoming insane because humans spent most of their development living in small bands, tribes, and villages. for a hundred thousand years. We're not designed (by evolution) to live in cities with or to be continuously connected to millions of other humans
Evolution requires people being able to adapt to the environment they are in. Change is the nature of the universe. Our ability to survive is dependent on our ability to adopt to change. Evolution is not designed for people to act or live in a predefined way. The exact opposite seems more likely. That evolution requires an ability to deal with environmental changes or to evolve.
If only these people who have played too many video games, the people who have been exploited by the pharmaceutical companies, the people who don’t have adequate mental-health care, the people who are fucked by evolutionary causes, the ones who are guided by whatever cult they attend - if only they didn’t have access to guns, missles, bombs, etc, then MAYBE we could slow their roll a bit and figure out why our country has a problem with video games, big pharma, mental health care, evolution, etc - but no other country, from the shit holes of Africa to the desperate in Venezuela and elsewhere, DONT shoot each other up.
Whats the difference between our country and their countries? hmmmmmmm
>>>>but no other country, from the shit holes of Africa to the desperate in Venezuela and elsewhere, DONT shoot each other up.
In all fairness, the United States, despite being the second most heavily armed country in the world (next to Yemen), ranks only 90th in overall murder rates and about 28th in gun homicide rates. So, yes, people in many other countries do shoot each other up (and apparently stab, bludgeon, and strangle each other) at much higher rates than Americans do.
That being said, aside from a few exceptions like Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines, all of the countries with higher murder rates than the US are in Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean. For a wealthy, highly modern society, the United States is anomaly and the abundance of firearms (especially handguns) is likely one factor in this phenomena.
>>>>In all fairness, the United States, despite being the second most heavily armed country in the world (next to Yemen), ranks only 90th in overall murder rates and about 28th in gun homicide rates. So, yes, people in many other countries do shoot each other up (and apparently stab, bludgeon, and strangle each other) at much higher rates than Americans do.
That being said, aside from a few exceptions like Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines, all of the countries with higher murder rates than the US are in Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean. For a wealthy, highly modern society, the United States is anomaly and the abundance of firearms (especially handguns) is likely one factor in this phenomena.
I mean I guess if you want to go around using rankings and ratings you’re right too. btw my comments normally rank in the upper 68th percentile so just keep that in mind next time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 10:53 pm
There’s a festival just
There’s a festival just around garlic? Thoughts and prayers for attendees breath
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 10:55 pm
Jeez you buried the lede
Jeez you buried the lede there dude you should mention someone shot the fiestival up
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 11:00 pm
It's an incredibly popular
It's an incredibly popular family event in Gilroy that's been happening for decades, and some nut/s have just shot the place up.
Apparently it's still an active situation, no clear reports yet on how many or how badly people have been hurt, but it doesn't sound good.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roarshock Roarshock
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 11:05 pm
It's a fucked up world.
It's a fucked up world.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 11:11 pm
What the fuck! That’s a nice
What the fuck! That’s a nice family festival.....with great garlic ice cream! Sad.....and you can still go to Walmart and buy a gun. Pathetic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Sunday, July 28, 2019 – 11:43 pm
Gotta be gangbangers or MS-13
Gotta be gangbangers or MS-13 right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:15 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:23 am
MAGA
MAGA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:31 am
Y’All Qaeda?
Y’All Qaeda?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:39 am
Three dead, so far. One a
Three dead, so far. One a three-year-old boy.
Fuckin' people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:53 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: hooper Hooper
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 01:30 am
Sad news.
Sad news.
Prayers to all involved.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 05:11 am
4 dead, including gunman.
4 dead, including gunman.
At least 15 injured.
Very sad news....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ............. Jambone
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 08:32 am
Horrible.....;(
So tragic....
This world is fckd up....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 11:13 am
daughter just moved like 20
daughter just moved like 20 mins away from there.
our country is sick.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andean Flight Javs Corner
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 11:37 am
Thoughts and prayers?
Thoughts and prayers? Uuuuuuhhhh.....
You mean gun control?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 11:54 am
Gun control, and funding for
Gun control, and funding for mental health services.
Crazy people everywhere in the streets these days. I always hear officials fall back on some version of "it all goes back to the Reagan-era policies that de-funded mental health". Okay, why don't we change those policies?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 12:47 pm
Obviously a Vampire attack.
Obviously a Vampire attack.
Seriously though very sorry to hear about this.
"it all goes back to the Reagan-era policies that de-funded mental health".>>>
certainly part of the overall problem along with addiction treatment facilities.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:25 pm
Trump encourages
Trump encourages
MAWA
Make America white again
Genetically superior
guns too
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/gilroy-garlic-fest-sho...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:26 pm
Their excellent people on
There are excellent people on both sides
Unless they’re black or colored and get in my way
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:27 pm
Borrowed time
Borrowed time
The bill will come do for all Americans
As long as my personal economy had a 1.5% increase who gives a shit about anyone or anything else it’s all good
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:29 pm
UJ: is are you kind?
UJ:
is are you kind?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:35 pm
https://heavy.com/news/2019
https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/santino-william-legan/
women are property
Family is property
Anglo Saxon is the superior race
Although this sorry Chap had mixed blood lines
daddy raped his daughter????? Wtf.
happy Monday!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:44 pm
My family was there Saturday
My family was there Saturday
Yes I’m raging today and it was a day assigned for me not to complain for 24 hours
I’m going to try a time out
Love to all, no exceptions
Please let love win over hate
and diminish the HATE emanating constantly from the White House or White Palace as I now call it
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:50 pm
Amen to that brother
Amen to that brother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTfBD5xUjmI
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 02:57 pm
Nonsense on scapegoating the
Nonsense on scapegoating the mentally ill and drug addicted.
This is called domestic terrorism. And I’ll bet a hundred dollars it’s racially and or politically motivated.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:04 pm
Damn girl
Damn girl
That completely makes me cry
what a freaking gift
do you happen to know where in win that was recorded?
WOW
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:13 pm
>>>>Id I’ll bet a hundred
>>>>Id I’ll bet a hundred dollars it’s racially and or politically motivated
The teenage perp posted on instagram urging people to read "Might is Right" an 1890 book advocating social Darwinism and Anglo-Saxon supremacy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_Is_Right
Ironic, because the guy wasn't Anglo-Saxon and was of Italian and Iranian descent. His instagram posts also railed against "mestizos" and "Silicon Valley white twats."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:14 pm
Well then there you go.
Well then there you go.
He’s obviously with the antifas
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:17 pm
Why overcrowd towns and pave
NIMBY?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:36 pm
how many of these shootings
how many of these shootings are perpetrated by left-wing fascists ?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:36 pm
>>>His instagram posts also
>>>His instagram posts also railed against "mestizos" and "Silicon Valley white twats."
i bet this kid never tried micro-dosing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:38 pm
he prolly wanted free health
he prolly wanted free health care and weed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 03:44 pm
My family was there Saturday>
My family was there Saturday>>>
You totally have the right to complain and rage today. Hope everything is ok with your group.
Nonsense on scapegoating the mentally ill and drug addicted.>>
In my case its more blaming the lack of nationwide treatment facilities and not pointing the finger at the mentally ill and drug addicted.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 05:59 pm
<< Santino William Legan, who
<< Santino William Legan, who was shot dead by police Sunday before he could do more damage, posted online about an 1890 racist manifesto, “Might is Right or The Survival of the Fittest,” NBC News confirmed.
“Read Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard,” Legan posted on his Instagram page. He then used a slurs against mixed-race people and misogynistic descriptions of white Silicon Valley workers, complaining about "hordes" of them "overcrowding" towns.
Redbeard, which was a pseudonym, argued that only strength and violence determined what is morally right. The work, which is filled with misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, is a staple among neo-Nazis and white supremacists on extremist sites.
And the phrase “might is right” is often posted as a sort of motto or catchphrase indicating white supremacy on neo-Nazi extremist forums.
Legan was also apparently no fan of the festival, a three-day food fair that began in 1979 to celebrate the local garlic industry — and which was in walking distance from his home on a tree-lined street in Gilroy.
“Ayyy garlic festival time,” his post read. “Come get wasted on overpriced s---.”
Below that was a post from someone named futboieden, which read “when you get too wasted and accidentally shoot up the festival.”
Just who futboieden was remained unclear a day after the nation was left grappling with yet another mass shooting. This one claimed the lives of 6-year-old Stephen Romero, a 13-year-old girl, and a man in his 20s. The names of the other two victims were not released.
Investigators also said they were looking into reports that Legan might have had an accomplice but said that had not been confirmed. They said the AK-47-style assault rifle Legan used in the shooting was purchased July 9 in Nevada. >>
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gilroy-garlic-festival-gunman-refer...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 06:12 pm
>>
>>
In my case its more blaming the lack of nationwide treatment facilities and not pointing the finger at the mentally ill and drug addicted.
<<
I guess I don’t follow.
Blaming what on the lack of nationwide treatment facilities?
If not pointing the finger at mentally ill and or drug addicted, then treatment for what, specifically?
white nationalism?
And then how would any of that have changed what happened here?
Yes, apparently I need this broken down for me like I am a five year old.
much love to your fam joel
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 06:32 pm
He wanted less development
He wanted less development and fewer people. He might have shot up a mental health facility if one tried opening in his backyard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: O'Toole Foghorn
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 07:09 pm
white nationalism?>>>
white nationalism?>>>
No, more him thinking its a good idea to buy an assault rifle and blast away at the garlic festival.
I'm just sayin if we helped more people in need we could possibly avoid some of this.
Yes, apparently I need this broken down for me like I am a five year old.>>>
I wasn't thinking that at all
He might have shot up a mental health facility if one tried opening in his backyard.>>>
Yea but if there was one already there conveniently located BEFORE he purchased the rifle someone there may have convinced him otherwise.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, July 29, 2019 – 07:17 pm
some truth to this...
some truth to this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lad26hfccS4
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 08:08 am
Something is happening here:
Something is happening here:
It seems just exactly clear.....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 09:03 am
>>>>>He wanted less
>>>>>He wanted less development and fewer people
As do I.
But I ain't shooting anyone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 09:58 am
Is your town overcrowded?
Is your town overcrowded?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 09:59 am
Turns out the three armed
Turns out the three armed cops on the scene didn’t shoot him after all, in spite of the credit given. The Gilroy shooter killed himself according to the coroners report.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 10:58 am
If you blame US gun violence
If you blame US gun violence on mental health...
....how do you explain why the US has more mental health issues than other nations?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 10:59 am
https://mobile.twitter.com
https://mobile.twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1158026191451803653
Why do more people die on mountains in Colorado than in Kansas?
Why do more people drown while swimming than while walking?
Only in America are these questions hard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 01:57 pm
Maybe legalize prostitution
Maybe legalize prostitution with the marijuanas according to Noodler's video link.
Might be something to it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 02:58 pm
we have our own taliban.
we have our own taliban.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, August 4, 2019 – 04:05 pm
I>>>>>s your town overcrowded
>>>>>Is your town overcrowded?
Yes, it is. Grown 300% in my 40 years here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 08:45 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 08:53 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 08:59 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 09:12 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 09:51 am
Clearly, it's the glasses.
Clearly, it's the glasses. Ban them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 10:18 am
Is that an attempt at humor
Is that an attempt at humor Herbal or did you post that because you think banning guns is silly.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, August 5, 2019 – 10:24 am
The former, Bucky. I don't
The former, Bucky. I don't see a need for assault weapons in society.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Faye Dunaway jlp
on Tuesday, August 6, 2019 – 06:44 pm
love this little gem of a
love this little gem of a place so much
the latest tragedy until the next 3
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Tuesday, August 6, 2019 – 07:20 pm
Wow. Those first two could
Wow. Those first two could be brothers.
Both named Darryl.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, August 6, 2019 – 07:31 pm
>>> I don't see a need for assault weapons in society. <<<
Even if you’re an articulate, seemingly “all together” deadhead?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 12:40 am
its very hard to have a
its very hard to have a debate in this country about gun control and assult weapons when nobody seems willing to talk about the actual reason why most people want those kinds of high powered assault rifles - to protect themselves against the possibility of our government turning into some sort of dictatorship that is trying to control people in any number of classic authoritarian figures.
the one side just asks why anyone would need an assault rifle and the other side responds by making incredibly general statements about the second amendment or protecting themselves from criminals. simple home or personal protection can obviously be achieved with a small handgun or something...id imagine that most folks who own assault rifles are either gun enthusiasts, like to shoot for sport, or they own them "just in case shit hits the fan".
IMO thats the single best argument against gun control and banning assault weapons...an armed populace with civilian militias has a much better chance of standing up to the US government if "shit hits the fan" and things go authoritarian. and then to have that very same government, the very thing you are arming yourself against, place all kinds of controls and regulations around gun ownership, could be seen as a "slippery slope" to removing gun rights and instituting more authoritarian policies in other aspects of american life, probably sounds totally nuts to these kinds of folks.
this isnt really my stance on the issue, personally i think the US governement and military is so well armed, with such fantastical technology, that no amount of assault rifles in american homes or civilian militias could ever, ever stop them in a "shit hit the fan" scenario...so basically gun ownership to protect against government overreach or takeover is futile, and we should institute alot of these gun controls.
but nobody is talking about this - its all centered around hunting, sport, protection from criminals, etc. i dont think we will make much progress in this debate until this point of view is discussed on the mainstream news and in the halls of the house and senate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 12:56 am
>>>why most people want those
>>>why most people want those kinds of high powered assault rifles - to protect themselves against the possibility of our government turning into some sort of dictatorship that is trying to control people in any number of classic authoritarian figures
is there any overlap between the people who support the police and the troops and the people who want to have high-powered assault rifles to fight off the government in case it turns on its own citizens?
because then those people would support the troops and police but still reserve the right to murder them in an efficient manner just in case they’re REALLY REALLY wrong about them.
I know there’s a better way to put that but I’ve been micro-dabbing all day
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 10:02 am
>no amount of assault rifles
>no amount of assault rifles in american homes or civilian militias could ever, ever stop them in a "shit hit the fan" scenario.<
well, the afghans just pretty much kicked our ass...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 10:35 am
>>>>well, the afghans just
>>>>well, the afghans just pretty much kicked our ass...
im pretty sure Afghanistan kicks everyone’s ass though. I hear the terrain has a lot to do with it.
Im not sure if the air-force and marines are going to have that tough of a time with Jethro and his Red Dawn friends in Alabama.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 10:57 am
but why are our citizens so
but why are our citizens so mentally ill that they want to kill each other?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:05 am
Have you ever played Pac-Man
Have you ever played Pac-Man or Asteroids?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:11 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:24 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:26 am
Don’t forget about the
Don’t forget about the gathering of the “Future Rapists of America” club that Moscow Mitch held at Fancy Farm this week
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:45 am
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:48 am
^^^ Lexington Christian Academy represent!
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 11:55 am
preppie rapists are
preppie rapists are disgusting.
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 06:58 pm
Never a good school bus
Never a good school bus tragedy when it counts.
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 07:18 pm
>> is there any overlap
>> is there any overlap between the people who support the police and the troops and the people who want to have high-powered assault rifles to fight off the government in case it turns on its own citizens?
because then those people would support the troops and police but still reserve the right to murder them in an efficient manner just in case they’re REALLY REALLY wrong about them. <<
Oath Keepers
Three Pecenters
I think calling it “overlap” would be generous. It’s intentional.
Some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses.
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on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 – 07:20 pm
Funny.
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on Thursday, August 8, 2019 – 03:05 pm
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on Thursday, August 8, 2019 – 03:06 pm
Oh hey here’s a picture from
Oh hey here’s a picture from this morning of 21 year-old Thom Bartram outside of an immigration detention facility in El Paso. He had a gun and ammunition on him. Hard to figure out his motives though, the NYT is investigating and will get back to us,
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/8/headlines/trump_supporter_with_loa...
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on Thursday, August 8, 2019 – 03:44 pm
Haha TIL a new word:
Haha TIL a new word: vanifesto
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on Thursday, August 8, 2019 – 04:28 pm
multiple bumperstickers are a
multiple bumperstickers are a sign of mental instability.
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 09:12 am
Oh Hey again...
Oh Hey again...
Here is an interesting article I stumbled across last night,
scroll to the very bottom...and tell me who you see.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-supporters-confront-protesters-at-el-paso-memorial
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 04:22 pm
Latex glove guy in the truck
Latex glove guy in the truck says he is coming to Portland for next weekend's confrontation between the Proud Boys and Antifa:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/08/armed-man-detained-outside-e...
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 04:25 pm
Oh wow he’s doing a tour!
Oh wow he’s doing a tour! Hopefully he catches pneumonia first and has to cancel.
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 04:37 pm
He’s clearly with the antifas
He’s clearly with the antifas
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 05:01 pm
The kid said he was wearing
The kid said he was wearing the blue gloves because he was eating prickly pears and the white powder was a protein supplement, so he's waving around a knife that he was obviously using to cut up the prickly pears and putting the white powder on the pears and the gun is for self defense in case he gets attacked by angry liberals. (thats a great pic btw, sums it up perfectly)
Not cray cray at all.
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 06:13 pm
i can understand how a 20
i can understand how a 20 something could be drawn to far right ideas, or racism, or white power movements, or the proud boys, or any number of things like that
cant even begin to understand how kids in their 20's in the year 2019 are joining "team mitch".
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 11:42 pm
>>>i can understand how a 20
>>>i can understand how a 20 something could be drawn to far right ideas, or racism, or white power movements, or the proud boys, or any number of things like that
cant even begin to understand how kids in their 20's in the year 2019 are joining "team mitch". <<<
yes, totally.
because they still live with their parents, and have likely only ever had one single television news channel on toxic repeat playing in the home 5 hours a night.
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on Friday, August 9, 2019 – 11:49 pm
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 12:00 am
Plausible deniability?
Plausible deniability?
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 12:39 am
>>>but why are our citizens
>>>but why are our citizens so mentally ill that they want to kill each other?
I feel much of it has to do with the fact we're extremely over prescribed all sorts of medications. The American people have been sold out to big Pharma... we're bombarded with a dizzying amount of ads for prescriptions. I don't think it's right that these meds are marketed directly to us as consumers.
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 12:39 am
>>>but why are our citizens
>>>but why are our citizens so mentally ill that they want to kill each other?
I feel much of it has to do with the fact we're extremely over prescribed all sorts of medications. The American people have been sold out to big Pharma... we're bombarded with a dizzying amount of ads for prescriptions. I don't think it's right that these meds are marketed directly to us as consumers.
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 01:11 am
Yeah or maybe it’s the video
Yeah or maybe it’s the video games....
white supremacy is not a mental illness anymore than jihad is. They want to kill people because their ideology instructs them to. It’s the rules.
Not disagreeing about the drug companies, really. I just don’t know that white supremacy and overprescribing are very corollary.
>>>and the kids they dance and shake their bones<<<
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 09:33 am
We are becoming insane
We are becoming insane because humans spent most of their development living in small bands, tribes, and villages. for a hundred thousand years. We're not designed (by evolution) to live in cities with or to be continuously connected to millions of other humans
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 09:56 am
Surf and BSS- I agree with
Surf and BSS- I agree with you. My point was intended as just a small piece of commentary on a specific aspect of a complex issue.
Surf- have you heard of/read this book? Really fascinating.. your historical reference to us as a species made me think of this. Check it out!
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 09:58 am
Evolution requires people
Evolution requires people being able to adapt to the environment they are in. Change is the nature of the universe. Our ability to survive is dependent on our ability to adopt to change. Evolution is not designed for people to act or live in a predefined way. The exact opposite seems more likely. That evolution requires an ability to deal with environmental changes or to evolve.
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 10:34 am
If only these people who have
If only these people who have played too many video games, the people who have been exploited by the pharmaceutical companies, the people who don’t have adequate mental-health care, the people who are fucked by evolutionary causes, the ones who are guided by whatever cult they attend - if only they didn’t have access to guns, missles, bombs, etc, then MAYBE we could slow their roll a bit and figure out why our country has a problem with video games, big pharma, mental health care, evolution, etc - but no other country, from the shit holes of Africa to the desperate in Venezuela and elsewhere, DONT shoot each other up.
Whats the difference between our country and their countries? hmmmmmmm
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 02:16 pm
Intelligent dialogue up there
Intelligent dialogue up there team Viva
fascinating Super sped up evolution with information and input overload
Happy day after the days between
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 06:57 pm
>>>>but no other country,
>>>>but no other country, from the shit holes of Africa to the desperate in Venezuela and elsewhere, DONT shoot each other up.
In all fairness, the United States, despite being the second most heavily armed country in the world (next to Yemen), ranks only 90th in overall murder rates and about 28th in gun homicide rates. So, yes, people in many other countries do shoot each other up (and apparently stab, bludgeon, and strangle each other) at much higher rates than Americans do.
That being said, aside from a few exceptions like Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines, all of the countries with higher murder rates than the US are in Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean. For a wealthy, highly modern society, the United States is anomaly and the abundance of firearms (especially handguns) is likely one factor in this phenomena.
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 08:35 pm
How many AR 15’s should a US citizen be able to own just far the sake of argument?
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on Saturday, August 10, 2019 – 09:57 pm
>>>>In all fairness, the
>>>>In all fairness, the United States, despite being the second most heavily armed country in the world (next to Yemen), ranks only 90th in overall murder rates and about 28th in gun homicide rates. So, yes, people in many other countries do shoot each other up (and apparently stab, bludgeon, and strangle each other) at much higher rates than Americans do.
That being said, aside from a few exceptions like Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines, all of the countries with higher murder rates than the US are in Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean. For a wealthy, highly modern society, the United States is anomaly and the abundance of firearms (especially handguns) is likely one factor in this phenomena.
I mean I guess if you want to go around using rankings and ratings you’re right too. btw my comments normally rank in the upper 68th percentile so just keep that in mind next time.