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old work friend just released from prison. petty thief

had options to go to halfway house, mens shelter etc. did he go? hell no.

he aint gonna sleep in a church with those "n....... in paterson"

well i ask you motherfucker - who did you sleep with for the last 5 years?

he has "a plan". going to live on the street. will be his 3rd trip to state prison at 60 yrs old.

some people never learn. count me as one of them for giving a shit about this idiot i guess.

bye bye Ted.

Damn.  Not much you can do, obviously.

Boy that's  all kinds of depressing......help yourself since no one else will....that's what I learned and everything worked out well.

is it a good "plan"?

No room on couch, Ed?    

>No room on couch, Ed?

 not in this case Jam.

Maybe a wise decision, its tough when its an old friend... hope he lands on his feet

5 years and hits the streets running.

i wouldn't believe this was possible if i wasn't seeing it for myself

 

I'd rather hit the streets than live in a men's shelter in Paterson. In some respects, the shelter is probably worse than prison.

Worse than the joint is a ridiculous statement.

how are you doing with your flatbrimmer neighbors and the drunk whom you steal beer from?

>how are you doing with your flatbrimmer neighbors and the drunk whom you steal beer from?

flatbrimmers got jobs and are rarely seen.

drunk neighbor decided last week to dye the little bit of hair he has. jet black.i didn't realize he was so vain. hes also on the wagon. he did a 60 day program and came home about 2 months ago. so far so good.

hi willie

Sounds like a good friend to keep around.

Your erstwhile buddy sounds kinda stupid. He/she could always stay at 1/2-way house and just do the Street Life as a day-job...

At least that way s/he'll have an address and place for showers, so as to acquire a job.

And Disco Stu for the win!

Turtle competing with AssCheeks for best notes in the class.

yea Stu. i know.

another thing i find weird is the racial intolerance after spending the last 5 years with black dudes. i would think it would be just the opposite.

last time he got out they sent him home with a bottle of 120 10 mg vicodins.

amazingly he had these folks at south woods convinced he needed medication for pain. arrived from prison fully addicted to pain killers and 120 pills. naturally couldn't find a doctor on the outside to refill the script when he ran out. lasted 2 weeks on the street. didn't stand a chance.

can you imagine that shit? guy is in jail because hes stealing to feed a addiction and prison feeds him vicodin for 2 years and cuts him loose with a "script to go".

when i heard this i nearly fell over.

this time he arrived home with a bottle of tylenol 4, also prison issued

haha gravy.

yea turtle keep notes too but at least he ain't a dickhead with his notebook

hi candyfrog,

don't you love how deep i can get into an old burnout's head without even trying?

hi cheeks.

i think your great. don't ever change

While I realize that 1/2-way house is not all Rosy, my vision of it is bed/food/running water for low or no rent. Perhaps I'm deluded, not having been.

But I thought the idea of the halfway-house was to provide shelter and job leads, even if they are not glamour jobs. Maybe they've got some drug-counseling too?

Could just be the 'made-for-TV version' I'm believing. I've always figured that is where you go to adapt back into society after the jail time.

that's just because you seem to love dickheads.

you're 100% right Stu. this is his best option but he thinks he has it all figured out.

yesterday i saw him and he said hes willing to try the "morristown mission" in morristown. im driving him there tomorrow i hope

he thinks this is a better fit. maybe it is. less black dudes at the shelter? less drugs on the street? who the fuck knows what hes really thinking.

i know for sure its better than him running around in paterson and  getting out of this area can only help.

is "other stuff" the right folder for this shit?

 

>that's just because you seem to love dickheads.

are you asking me not to give you the time of day anymore cheeks?

My impression of Morristown is an affluent area, with limited 'inner-city" activities. There is/was a pretty tasty Sushi buffet there, "Minado". I guess I've been 3-4 times, and the selections are really quite Nice. It is not gross yuckie stuff like the typical 'China Buffet' but rather a decent place.

Here is a random citation about 1/2-way house from internet:

Anonymous

Written 10 Aug 2015

"...There are essentially two types of halfway houses. One type, which is becoming increasingly predominant, is the type associated with (and usually run by) the criminal justice system. Convicts may be required to live in a halfway house after getting out of jail or prison on parole, or in order to avoid serving jail or prison time. I have no experience with this type, so I can't speak about them.
 
The other type are privately run and cater to specific populations. A halfway house may be specifically for people with mental retardation, or severe mental illness, or for those struggling with substance abuse. These populations are typically not mixed.
 
I spent about 3 months living in a halfway house for substance abuse after leaving inpatient rehab. I will speak about my experience specifically, which may or may not generalize to other facilities.
 
My house had two tracks: one that was straight halfway house, and the other was for people participating in day treatment or intensive outpatient (IOP). 
 
The halfway house track was normally a four-month program. You were expected to find a job within a few weeks. There was a vocational counselor to help you with this. There were also many therapeutic groups that you were required to or encouraged to attend, depending on what phase you were in (more about phases later).
 
If you were participating in day treatment or IOP (this was my track), then you were not required to work unless you wanted to, and you had fewer groups to attend because you spent much of your day in treatment. You stayed for as long as you were in treatment. Day treatment was 4 weeks, and IOP was 6 weeks. Most people go to IOP after day treatment, but people often moved into a sober house at some point, rather than staying in the halfway house the whole time. I stayed for both day treatment and IOP, plus  about 2 weeks afterwards..."

im gonna get this guy out of paterson. after that hes on his own in lovely morristown

So that's some of what I read about the Half-Step, Mississippi Downtown Toodle-oo House scene.

Sounds like it is $$-free to the rehabilitating individual, with some vocational counseling and drug-counseling.

They have curfews, apparently, and if you are a minute late, pee in a jar.

Seems to be an attempt at structure after the penitentiary, with regulated freedom.

apparently there's a lot of variables Stu

Yes. OS is the place for this.

No way in hell is that going to work, take him to an emergency room where they have the proper channels to transport to the proper place,....medical help is the best help....plus food and lodging

Well, if it's the St. Paul's shelter in Paterson, there are worse places to be. Used to know several of their volunteers and a member of their board.

Still, living two towns away, I know there are better places, too.

 

At 60?

I think al anon would advise you to cut loose.

Sorry for your loss.

>Well, if it's the St. Paul's shelter in Paterson, there are worse places to be.

hi neighbor.

yea Zeke st pauls aint too bad according to him but its hard to get in. theres a waiting list. he was at good shepard initially before he decided to put his "PLAN" into motion.

i just drove him the the mission on market st in morristown. gave him 100 and wished him luck.

thanks Rik

Wait, your buddy got 5yrs for petty theft?

What were his other priors?

Seems lengthy for a petty theft charge.

Wishing your buddy good luck! 

Well, if it's the St. Paul's shelter in Paterson, there are worse places to be. Used to know several of their volunteers and a member of their board.<<

 

I rehearsed a few shows there with a theater co out of Paterson.  There and whatever community college was nearby (PCCC?)