Former President Donald Trump's five impeachment defense attorneys have left a little more than a week before his trial is set to begin, according to people familiar with the case, amid a disagreement over his legal strategy.
It was a dramatic development in the second impeachment trial for Trump, who has struggled to find lawyers willing to take his case. And now, with legal briefs due next week and a trial set to begin only days later, Trump is clinging to his election fraud charade and suddenly finds himself without legal representation.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-tru...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 03:52 pm
That's what happens when you
That's what happens when you refuse to pay legal fees, people get the idea you're going to rip them off too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 03:53 pm
ASSCLOWN
ASSCLOWN
DELUSIONAL
PRAY FOR AMERICA / "Americans"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 04:04 pm
King Midas on Opposite Day,
King Midas on Opposite Day, everything he touches turns to poo
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 04:11 pm
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!
https://youtu.be/cntvEDbagAw
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go? LiquidMonkey
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 04:24 pm
damn... i thought this was
damn... i thought this was about the show.
i'm just starting the 4th(?) season.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: (~)};)StealYourFace WALSTIB
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 04:34 pm
"Slipping Jimmy" would take
"Slipping Jimmy" wouldn't take this case...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 04:50 pm
I hope Trump appears on his
I hope Trump appears on his own behalf and insists on testifying. He's not immune from prosecution anymore and anything he says can and will be used against him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 05:21 pm
Yes, please!
Yes, please!
I had read that the lawyers all quit because Trump wanted them to argue election fraud. Essentially try and defend Trump by arguing his part in inciting an insurrection was warranted as he was just directing them to stop the steal.
it's quite possible Trump will show up and dig his own grave.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 06:16 pm
If only some ripped-off
If only some ripped-off contractor had him do that in the 80s.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 06:23 pm
He wanted his lawyers to go
He wanted his lawyers to go with an affirmative defense that said the insurrection was justified because the election was stolen. That is what he will make his impeachment trial about. The spineless Republican Senators who still to this day think they can thread the needle will be faced with the choice of voting for Trump and for the big lie or voting for democracy. The cult leaders are never happy with anything less than 100% loyalty, and the next loyalty test will always be a one step further down the road toward insanity. Oh yeah and he also hadn't paid them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 06:40 pm
Maybe they'll appoint a
Maybe they'll appoint a public defender for the fellow.
If he has no representation, can it hold up the trial? Just wondering if this is just another Trumpian ruse.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 06:50 pm
Just announced he's got a new
Just announced he's got a new legal team prepared to argue that impeaching a former President is unconstitutional
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 06:55 pm
Was impeached while prez over
Orange Mussolini was impeached while prez over things he did while prez.
From NBC News:
"But there is historical precedent for impeaching and trying to convict a former federal officeholder.
In 1876, as the U.S. House of Representatives was about to vote on articles of impeachment against Secretary of War William Belknap over corruption charges, Belknap walked over to the White House, submitted his resignation letter to President Ulysses S. Grant and burst into tears.
The House still went ahead and impeached Belknap, and the Senate tried him, with the impeachment managers arguing that departing office doesn’t excuse the alleged offense — otherwise, officeholders would simply resign to escape conviction or impeachment.
And the Senate voted in 1876, by a 37-29 margin, that Belknap was eligible to be impeached and tried even though he resigned from office.
But Belknap was eventually acquitted, with the Senate failing to muster the two-thirds vote needed to convict. (A significant number of senators believed the Senate lacked jurisdiction to convict him because he no longer held office.)"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Sunday, January 31, 2021 – 07:42 pm
Help is on the way, Donny!!!
Help is on the way, Donny!!!
Be Best, xoxox
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 08:56 am
what a waste of time.
what a waste of time and resources.
only brunch liberals care.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 09:04 am
^Really, he only incited a violent coup attempt. Why all the fuss?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 09:05 am
Imagine committing felonies
Imagine committing felonies and all you have to do is quit your job to avoid prosecution
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 09:40 am
we all know trump is horrible
we all know trump is horrible.
but why stop there?
what about the 1 million innocent dead Iraqis? or they don't matter.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 10:48 am
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 11:03 am
Exactly... we should not stop
Exactly... we should not stop there
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 11:22 am
>>>what about the 1 million
>>>what about the 1 million innocent dead Iraqis? or they don't matter. <<<
It's not that they don't matter; it's that currently, they can't run for president again in 2024...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 11:47 am
Is anyone with any sense of
Is anyone with any sense of sanity doubting that our Executive Branch needs to be held to accountability standards? As Bss said, it's Trump's time for that.
If I remember correctly, a lot of Zoners, and Americans in general, wanted W to be held accountable for what he did. He knowingly lied to start a war, in which something like 600k Iraqis were directly killed by coalition forces, and another half million died as a result of the infrastructure being bombed back to the Stone Ages. His lies destabilized the entire region, making way for Syria.
If you can figure out what to do about that now, let me know.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 11:49 am
Truth is the majority of "
Truth is the majority of " today's GOP" is just fine with Jan. 6.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 04:39 pm
you guys think trump will be
you guys think trump will be held accountable?
the system protects its own.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 04:50 pm
I think that Trump and every
I think that Trump and every president should be held accountable. I also think that it's doubtful that he, or most others, will be.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 04:54 pm
^great.
^great.
biden will have the trumps over for dinner in a couple years.
the bush family first.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 05:18 pm
Ultimately, nope.
Ultimately? nope.
But I want to see the effort put forth and the votes recorded.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 06:12 pm
bernie mittens immunity
bernie mittens immunity
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 06:28 pm
back pedaling and
back pedaling on checks and compromising with fringe extremists.
off to a great start!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 07:08 pm
Nice soundbite, Turts. Care
Nice soundbite, Turts. Care to fact check it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 07:11 pm
biden will have the trumps
biden will have the trumps over for dinner in a couple years. <<<
NO WAY.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 07:23 pm
$2k checks went to $1400,
$2k checks went to $1400, possibly $1k...maybe less...
here, this cute gal can esplain it bk...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3-KSSiUy8
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 07:26 pm
Merrick Garland has yet to
more crap.
gee golly. hope those fellas will work with us!
Merrick Garland has yet to receive a confirmation hearing, weeks after Joe Biden nominated him to be his attorney general.
And that’s due to a hiccup that has left the Senate judiciary committee under the control of the Republicans.
While the Democrats have the Senate majority, the Senate hasn’t passed a power-sharing deal, leaving Republicans still in control of committees. Incoming committee chair Dick Durbin, the Democratic whip from Illinois, accuses Lindsey Graham, who is still the chair of the judiciary committee, of delaying the hearing with no justification.
In a letter to Graham, Durbin wrote that delaying Garland’s confirmation “jeopardizes our national security” and that “there is simply no justification for delaying Judge Garland’s hearing any further”.
“He is a mainstream, consensus pick who should be confirmed swiftly both on his merits and because of the pressing need to respond to the 6 January insurrection and other national security risks,” Durbin wrote.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/feb/01/joe-biden-coronavir...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 07:50 pm
Go to about 4:30 Turts. You
Go to about 4:30 Turts. You literally boiled a complex political issue into an incorrect soundbite.
Fact: Biden wants $2k checks and unemployment benefits extended until September.
Fact: Biden has stated that this new plan, by 10 Republicans, is unacceptable, and he doesn't want to hold up benefits for the needy.
Fact: Biden is between a rock and a hard place.
Turts, there's absolutely no need for you to be a condescending prick (here, this cute gal can esplain it bk...), especially when you are pretty much off base. You've watched a video, extrapolated what suited your POV, and then made judgments based on it. You're quite the armchair quarterback, aren't you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 08:04 pm
Let's be fair. The guy has
Let's be fair. The guy has been president for less than 2 weeks. He inherited a literal shitshow. There's a year-long pandemic with no plan by his predecessor. The world is coming apart at the seams. There are Congresspeople who are literally batshit crazy and want to kill Democrats. The Republicans are cow-towing to those freaks, and won't even it's on his cabinet picks.
Meanwhile, the guy seems to be busy as shit, trying to do good stuff (environment, $15 minimum wage, etc). And again, it hasn't even been 2 weeks and you're already putting him down for not doing what you want, when you want it.
Sereouseeley, what would you do and how exactly would you do it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, February 1, 2021 – 08:06 pm
Stop sending Democrats money.
Stop sending campaign money.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 06:16 am
Lindsey Graham - if witnesses
Lindsey Graham - if witnesses are called it will open a Pandora's Box
is that a threat? Does he have tape on the baby eating Democrats? Or is he not wanting to be exposed along with a host of others?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:43 am
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1356458365124280320?ref_src=tw...
open that fucking box and let's see who all was all in
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:50 am
Mr. Ex President - at what
Mr. Ex President - at what point of you, the commander in Chief, watching the actions at the capitol unfold, when our Democratic and Republican representatives were under attack did you call for reinforcement to save them.
its fucking treason, let's not sugar coat this shit, he left our people on the battle field.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:35 am
the corporate apologists are
the corporate apologists are out today!
biden can push thru 2000$ check right now. FACT.
he won't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:40 am
>>>>>biden can push thru 2000
>>>>>biden can push thru 2000$ check right now. FACT.
Please explain how this would be done.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:42 am
^^you're an angry idiot. Biden cannot push through anything, he is not a dictator. They need all 50 Democrats to vote for the legislation, and that's if they use reconciliation.
Clueless, you are.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:46 am
Better Call Saul>>>
Better Call Saul>>>
The last season kinda sucked, IMO. There were some good episodes but they kinda got lost in trying to do too many episodes. I think if they had broken up this last season with 8 and 8 like BB it would have worked out better. If they are ever able to do season six everyone will be like 15 yrs older than they were when they filmed the first breaking bad. Not sure how well that will work out. I will still watch it but just seems like they were pretty thin on creative ideas at the end of that last season.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:48 am
Yes better that they replaced
Yes better that they replaced it with a new show. This one might last 8 seasons unless the other networks can put together some decent competition
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:48 am
biden can't whip manchin?
biden can't whip manchin? that's sad and hilarious.
these neoliberal fucks have 100+ years of combined service and can't get americans a one time ( !!! ) $2000 check w/ control of both chambers.
they have the corporate apologists spewing their bs for them.
lumber you're doing it perfectly.
he doesn't need one republican vote. we can have $2000 immediately.
he won't do it.
lumber, a neoliberal you are (you just haven't accepted it yet). sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:55 am
<<<>>>environment, $15
<<<>>>environment, $15 minimum wage, etc).
$15min by 2025? that's not real life.
31 (at least) new drilling permits.
kids still in cages. ICE operating at free will.
but no yelling tweets from the pres on twitter, no name calling, no making fun of people -- all quiet again.
almost time to go back to brunch you fucks.
where's thod? he must be furious.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:01 am
It's like a challenge each
It's like a challenge each day to just come up with a post incorporating all the buzz words
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:05 am
^voted for W. stated that on
^voted for W. stated that on this site.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:06 am
^biden can't whip manchin? ^
They're trying, Manchin is resistant.
>can have $2000 immediately<
If reconciliation is used, the process will take several days, even weeks
>they have the corporate apologists spewing their bs for them<
Per usual, you're the one spewing bullshit, mostly out of willful ignorance.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:08 am
always funny and sad to see
always funny and sad to see neolibs like lumber justify his corporate dems not doing anything they promised to help people during this pandemic.
but the republicans!
funny stuff. and all too predictable.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:13 am
It's frustrating to read ignorant criticism spewed on a daily basis.
Your simple mind would really prefer a dictator.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:15 am
^thats an awesome post.
^thats an awesome post.
3.8.
i get it, criticizing the dems makes neolibs like yourself frustrated.
you bring that on yourself.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:24 am
Might last 8 seasons>>>
Might last 8 seasons>>>
No, they already said the sixth season will be the last.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:30 am
3.8?
No, I'm not melting, just pointing out your obvious ignorance. It's frustrating to continually read your baseless criticism.
You seem to think that Biden has dictatorial powers, and can order Senators to vote a particular way. I think reflects your desire to have an authoritarian leader enact your preferred policies.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:34 am
Obsessed with W but I guess
Obsessed with W but I guess it's all ya got
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:36 am
that's insane, lumber. but go
that's insane, lumber. but go for it.
back in reality, you keep apologizing for the corporate dems that don't want to help the american public.
you're a strange guy. you love neoliberalism, even tho it's very similar to gop conservative rule, which you say you despise.
you're conflicted.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:47 am
^Not at all, Pyramid, I just understand the legislative process and thus have realistic expectations. I understand that compromises will likely be made in order to secure the needed votes. And I understand that the President does not have the power to push through legislation, or the power to order any legislator to vote in a particular way.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 09:57 am
you accept the neolibs bs
you accept the neolibs bs excuses.
even people like mcconnell's you accept.
look where that logic has gotten us.
to a perfectly failed state.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 10:06 am
>even people like mcconnell's you accept<
Provide an example please.
>you accept the neolibs bs excuses<
You mean like securing enough votes to pass legislation?
Or finding 60 votes in the Senate, to avoid a filibuster?
Again, you seem to think that all Democrats will fall in line and vote the way you want, or that Biden can order them to do so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 10:21 am
I like ogkb, but you're
I like ogkb, but you're better off banging your head into a brick wall than discussing politics with him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 10:23 am
^but you're better off banging your head into a brick wall than discussing politics with him
The results are similar.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 04:37 pm
his endless baseless rants
his endless baseless rants really are not about politics, but i do not know what the hell he spews about, nor understand what he thinks he might gain from his endless psychobabble of clueless rants / insulting / being the victim I am right <> you are all losers, I am the only pure one here
a new form of tinhatism i guess
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 05:22 pm
^youre a mess, lltd.
^youre a mess, lltd.
so we should revisit this conversation after the dems lose the midterms b/c they're leaving people high n dry?
incrementalism doesn't work. it's why we are where we are.
people like lltd are the worst b/c they think all these issues were created by trump.
did pelosi/schumer endorse manchin in 2018?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 05:51 pm
NoI I don't just blame trump
NoI I don't just blame trump and yes easily the worst and laziest ( self centered gangster stupid ) president in 100 years
nor just blame the republicans I do think they are massive Hypocrites however
the system of politics suck. And the fact that people donate money for political races is completely fucked up
and the balance of power
and equity Is impossible due the rich motherfuckers and lobbyists
we need to start there
However negotiation and compromise are part of life and every relationship
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 06:48 pm
Party first politics has held
Party first politics has held this country back for 30 years now, stagnant as fuck is what we have become, and other countries are soon to be passing us by
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:21 pm
His new lawyers spelled
His new lawyers spelled "United" in "United States Senate" wrong in today's filing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Woz Paul_woz
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:22 pm
^ Priceless.
^ Priceless.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:29 pm
Not the brightest lasers
Not the brightest lasers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 07:47 pm
The Democrats probably will
The Democrats probably will lose the House and/or Senate in 22, but it won't have shit to do with them being proactive or progressive enough. The reality is, it's just super rare for a Party to hold control in the Executive and Legislative branches. I'm not sure why, but it just doesn't happen.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 – 08:54 am
>>>>>incrementalism doesn't
>>>>>incrementalism doesn't work. it's why we are where we are.
The only reason we are reduced to incrementalism is that we don't have enough votes in congress or the support of enough of the American populace to go whole hog. We don't go incremental because we want to - we do it because we have to. The right has been dumbing down the educational system for 40 years ur more until they now have half the country voting against its own best interests. Until they vote for better congresspeople we will have only incremental progress at best.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, February 4, 2021 – 08:09 am
^major issue right there.
^major issue right there.
"it's all the republicans fault".
dems vote against their own interests as well.
dem/gop is the party of wall st. same interests. same goals. slightly diff methods to achieve those goals.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dimethyllovebeam joe
on Saturday, October 23, 2021 – 01:41 pm
part way through s4
part way through s4
Is it wrong to feel sorry for Nacho?