P&F Montana Show - 06/17/2022

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The whole show isn't up on archive yet; it looks like they're still uploading it this morning, but the first set is available now:

https://archive.org/download/paf2022-06-17.aud.flac

Nice/Thanks!!

looks good, that one would have been fun to make.

Blue Sky opener....... Right on!!

Phil Lesh and Friends
KettleHouse Amphitheater
Bonner, MT
June 17, 2022

Set 1
Blue Sky
Deal
He’s Gone
Cold Rain and Snow
Crazy Fingers
They Love Each Other
Touch of Grey

Set 2
West LA Fadeaway
Mississippi Half Step
Estimated Prophet
Wharf Rat
Playing in the Band
Uncle John’s Band
Shakedown Street

Donor Rap
Casey Jones

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Excellent, excellent show. Terrific playing by the entire band, but special shout-out is in order to the "magnificent" Holly Bowling (per Phil's band intro, and he was spot on), who crushed it. Lineups changing throughout the summer but if you have the chance, go see Phil on this tour

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^^^from a friend who was there

That place looks like a sweet little venue.  Hope to make it there someday.  Phil is playing some nice locations.  Interesting contrast to Dead & Co and their baseball and football stadiums.

 

The idea that anyone would pay money to travel and go see Dead & Co when this is available is genuinely hilarious to me

> Interesting contrast to Dead & Co and their baseball and football stadiums.

What's interesting to me about the Dead $ Co model, and by interesting I mean disturbing, is they've re-adopted the very thing that killed the Grateful Dead.

Burgers and cigarettes killed the Grateful Dead via Jerry's arteries. They would've continued on in the stadiums if everybody was healthy and it would've been okay

Jerry's habits took a toll on his health, no doubt, but the grind of the road--and supporting the many parts of the GD machine--was also a major contributing factor.

They liked the money/success too and, yep, likely would have continued if things "held up". Maybe Phil found a little nitch this Summer by mostly playing smaller, really decent places but is he even close to packing them? It is what it is so get it (whatever IT is for you) while you can. DeadCo has a certain model/appeal to a relatively significant segment of the community as does Phil, just on a different scale/scope. This differing contrast doesn't need to split the overall community.

Good for the Missoula peeps.  

Was thinking about going, but airfare was $$$.

That picture is sweet, with Mt. Jumbo in in the background.  My old stomping grounds and I used to live about a mile from the venue toward the base of the mountain (long before the venue was even a concept) at an old Italian POW camp turned into a hippie compound.   

phil's merch is pretty good for this tour. got a cap.

but yeah, the split in the shed vs. mid-sized venues and & co vs. & phriends is interesting...

 

i'll have to listen to to this, as the seattle show was not really too hot musically. it was ok...but...

They would've continued on in the stadiums if everybody was healthy and it would've been okay

People seem to forget that the Grateful Dea spent most of '73 and '74 in stadiums and their touring career featured large concerts and stadiums through all the subsequent years. It's not like the last couple of years they were relegated to stadiums and that caused their demise......bad health and certainly bad crowd behavior was an issue. The latter doesn't seem to be an issue in 2022.

What's interesting to me about the Dead $ Co model, and by interesting I mean disturbing, is they've re-adopted the very thing that killed the Grateful Dead

I don't see that. They are playing venues that for better or worse accommodate the number of people that want to see them. Folsom field was packed to the gills last night. I love Phil and he is playing venues commensurate with his drawing power. And they are indeed much nicer places.

>The latter doesn't seem to be an issue in 2022.<

This was at Shoreline the other day (night/next morning likely) and features some very disrespectful and absolutely abhorrent behavior on display. Granted, the vast majority of attendees were most likely decent and respectful, as it ever was.

https://www.facebook.com/aloha.aina/videos/550017630104109/?sfnsn=wa

This was at Shoreline the other day (night/next morning likely) and features some very disrespectful and absolutely abhorrent behavior on display. Granted, the vast majority of attendees were most likely decent and respectful, as it ever was.

No doubt. I'm just saying that after 7 years you don't see press like in the 90s and D&C aren't banned from venues, there aren't fear mongering articles in the papers before they arrive. It's much to the contrary actually.

> People seem to forget

I'll own that, Woz; I'm prone to forgetfulness. But memory flaws aside, I'd still rather catch Phil searching for the sound in a really beautiful setting with a crowd of 5000-10000.

I'm content with both, but I really wish Phil would field a permanent band and deliver more consistent and quality music. Frost was fun, but the quality of the music was so so..

Agreed about the Frost. There were moments when things really worked, but it definitely wasn't the kind of show that sizzled from start to finish. Now, if Scofield had been replaced by Tom Hamilton, that might have been something worth writing home about, I think.

> I really wish Phil would field a permanent band

Not likely to happen, but could be fun to speculate about. Do you have anybody particular in mind?

just add molo?

instantly the groove is much more conducive.  

everytime i hear someone else behind the kit, it makes me realize my guys not there...

Do you have anybody particular in mind?

Stu Allen. He's available, is a great player and can work with Phil. The rest of the folks Phil draws on all have other gigs. Phil, Stu, Holly Bowling, Molo and even Graham playing on a consistent basis would deliver a consistently good product and would be consistent with where Phil is at in terms of what JillCo is willing to pay for and deal with.

Phil Lesh and Friends Live at Kettle House Amphitheater on 2022-06-17

https://archive.org/details/paf2022-06-17.aud.flac

^That works for me. Russo on drums is always welcome if Molo is not available.  Quite frankly, I would love to have Ezra Lipp as "permanent" drummer. 

Phil and Molo were 100% locked in at this show. And Grahame and Stu have played a number of gigs together recently, plus all the years at Terrapin, and it shows. I also thought Stu stepped out more than I've heard him do recently, and had a fuller and more energy-carrying tone than I expected. Deal was a particular highlight but there were a number of songs he just ripped on

Great set list. Will have to give it a listen.

Stu!

Molo!

Phil!

Graham!

Good core band that has played together for years.

Dead & Co can have the larger multitudes and may they have fun!

 

well this is different than the show i saw.

 

WHITE CLOUD!!

Thanks for the links Mike and 710!

 

This one and Cuthbert are my favorites. 

Thanks for the links Mike and 710!

 

This one and Cuthbert are my tour favorites so far. 

Phiiiiiiilllllllll!

 

Sounds good from all the way back here in the back at home...

While Marymoor was a good solid show, Missoula with Molo and Holly was next level. Phil was crisper and deeper (like, bassier) in the mix as well, better set list too. Shakedown was boogie heaven.

 

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Looking forward to hearing this, as I'm especially interested in the shows with Holly Bowling.  Saw Phil, Stu, and Holly at TXR in the park, and it was the most "musical" performance we saw there.  Stu and Holly playing off each other was brilliant.

I remember reading somewhere that one of the things Bob didn't like about Furthur was that Phil always wanted him to play different every night. What sounds to us like unrehearsed is probably the thing that gets Phil out of bed at this point. It's a feature not a bug.