Grahame Lesh for sure. I see people post that his chops have improved--and, really, why shouldn't they have?--but for me, that doesn't mean he's fit to front his dad's band.
The unfiltered fact is that Grahame Lesh does not belong stage with the likes of professional musicians. We all know he's a super nice guy and is apple of Phil's beaming eye but at the same time, maybe he could have a little self awareness (like Brian) and just do his own thing and leave daddy alone. The last Cap run was brutal. Stepping on other guitar solos, screechy singing and getting in the way. That junk was fine for free at the TXR bar but not theater stages.
Looks like you will be getting a lot more Grahame going forward. Give him some support as his musicianship continues getting better with experience, or don't go to the show. You are always free to stop paying attention to what Phil is doing in his Golden Years playing with his son and friends. It's not on Phil, it's on you.
It's Grahame's vocals that grate on me the most. I don't spend a lot of time thinking or posting about this though. It is what is, and it's just not for me.
Derek Trucks, on the other hand, while technically a nepo baby, has earned his bones on his own since he was about nine years old. The world was going to come to know his talent, regardless of his origin or family name.
Love seeing how far Graham has come and feel that he has been instrumental in bringing along some amazing new younger Phriends to the scene. And Phil most likely wouldn’t be playing events like he is without Graham by his side.
Graham has the Dead's mystical DNA and when onstage this provides a genuine heartfelt intangible as well.
in his Golden Years playing with his son and friends<<<
I think this touches upon a central key point as it relates to music vs almost all other circumstances that have a business component. With music (especially GD style), there exists an intangible core connection that goes well beyond a simple transactional "market". Family bands are as old as time for a reason. This is not to say some families aren't more concerned with the business aspect than others. I could be wrong, but don't sense that this is the driving force.
Personally, I view anything Phil does at this stage of his life as "gravy" and am open to whatever choices he makes. This is not to say it doesn't affect how far I'll drive, how much I'll pay, or how many shows I'll see for any given lineup.
sam grisman just launched a tour playing garcia/grisman material...don't get much of that in the GD corpse humping world. gdad's daughter is doing their social media or something.would have gone if closer.
Rumors that Micah Nelson (Particle Kid) will be touring as Crazy Horse's 2nd guitarist, once Neil announces some shows. Nils Lofgren is booked with Springsteen for the next couple of years and Poncho is still retired.
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on Saturday, January 7, 2023 – 10:55 pm
I'm fine with him doing Bobby
I'm fine with him doing Bobby songs, but not like mission in the rain encores
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 01:07 am
few areas of american life
few areas of american life/culture are more rife with nepo babies than the current touring bands of aging classic rock acts
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 07:46 am
Nepo Lesh is fine, but he's
Nepo Lesh is fine, but he's worth $25, not $125.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb) Tatters
on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 09:26 am
The unfiltered fact is that
The unfiltered fact is that Grahame Lesh does not belong stage with the likes of professional musicians. We all know he's a super nice guy and is apple of Phil's beaming eye but at the same time, maybe he could have a little self awareness (like Brian) and just do his own thing and leave daddy alone. The last Cap run was brutal. Stepping on other guitar solos, screechy singing and getting in the way. That junk was fine for free at the TXR bar but not theater stages.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 10:35 am
All this angst about him
All this angst about him cracks me up. Phil is 82 and enjoying playing with his son, so be it. It's your choice not to go.
I haven't seen Phil since winter 2008 due to location but also due to just interest.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 12:03 pm
Nepo Lesh is fine, but he's
Nepo Lesh is fine, but he's worth $25, not $125.>>>
$140.00 w/fees for GA at the Shapitol. Taking a pass on $25, if Fredo Lesh is in the band.
$95.00 with fees for this line up in Denver next month, $45.00 Shappy tax?
The last Cap run was brutal. Stepping on other guitar solos, screechy singing and getting in the way>>>
Went to 10/22, the boy has zero stage presence, please no more Dylan. He was cringe worthy on Masterpiece.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 12:19 pm
https://www.musicofcream.com/
https://www.musicofcream.com/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 12:33 pm
Zak Starkey
Zak Starkey
Ziggy Marley
Ivan Neville
Wolfgang Van Halen
Jeff Pevar
Charlotte Gaisbourg
Jakob Dylan
Moon Unit Zappa
The Allman/Betts Band
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 01:25 pm
he's really grown on me. his
he's really grown on me. his vocals are fine...i mean how many "good" singers are there for these songs? waiting for answers...
as far as playing, yes..much better. I do not think he needs to be trading leads though...
the warfield show i just saw was probably the best phil show i have seen in more than a decade.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 02:20 pm
Looks like you will be
Looks like you will be getting a lot more Grahame going forward. Give him some support as his musicianship continues getting better with experience, or don't go to the show. You are always free to stop paying attention to what Phil is doing in his Golden Years playing with his son and friends. It's not on Phil, it's on you.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 02:50 pm
U crackers done been Grahamed
U crackers done been Grahamed!
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 03:13 pm
He continues to grow as a
He continues to grow as a guitar player and singer. I share Turtle and Roarshock's feelings.
And it's often about the partnership.
E:
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 03:27 pm
> his vocals are fine
> his vocals are fine
It's Grahame's vocals that grate on me the most. I don't spend a lot of time thinking or posting about this though. It is what is, and it's just not for me.
Derek Trucks, on the other hand, while technically a nepo baby, has earned his bones on his own since he was about nine years old. The world was going to come to know his talent, regardless of his origin or family name.
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 04:39 pm
Lol, Judit.
Lol, Judit.
Good point about trucks, is he the greatest talent of the jamband nepopolis?
I also feel like dweezil Zappa works very hard and is an impressive musician.
haven't seen him around much post pandemic.
hope he's doing well
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on Sunday, January 8, 2023 – 10:30 pm
Love seeing how far Graham
Love seeing how far Graham has come and feel that he has been instrumental in bringing along some amazing new younger Phriends to the scene. And Phil most likely wouldn’t be playing events like he is without Graham by his side.
Graham has the Dead's mystical DNA and when onstage this provides a genuine heartfelt intangible as well.
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 07:58 am
...he has been instrumental
...he has been instrumental in bringing along some amazing new younger Phriends to the scene<<<
OK good point. Who is his greatest contribution, RMFJ or Alex Koford?
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 09:16 am
^ Not to say that he wouldn't
^ Not to say that he wouldn't under other circumstances without Graham, but it really seems like Stanley Jordan has been "adopted" by the family.
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 09:26 am
in his Golden Years playing
in his Golden Years playing with his son and friends<<<
I think this touches upon a central key point as it relates to music vs almost all other circumstances that have a business component. With music (especially GD style), there exists an intangible core connection that goes well beyond a simple transactional "market". Family bands are as old as time for a reason. This is not to say some families aren't more concerned with the business aspect than others. I could be wrong, but don't sense that this is the driving force.
Personally, I view anything Phil does at this stage of his life as "gravy" and am open to whatever choices he makes. This is not to say it doesn't affect how far I'll drive, how much I'll pay, or how many shows I'll see for any given lineup.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 11:22 am
lucas nelson can actually
lucas nelson can actually sing and play.
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 11:42 am
I was actually somewhat
I was actually somewhat impressed with GL's playing and harmony singing last summer - lead vocals still a work in progress.
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 11:50 am
...John Kimock?
...John Kimock?
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 11:59 am
>>> ...John Kimock?
>>> ...John Kimock?
Is a badass drummer.
How about the Allman Children Band? https://www.allmanbettsband.com/
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 01:04 pm
Sam Grisman is a worthy
Sam Grisman is a worthy picker
not that anybody really knows who david grisman is, unfortunately
lukas is just killer. Must be in the blood.
Grahame has gone from nepo cheese geek to legitimate rock frontman and git slinger
duane betts, derek, dweezil, nepo peepl? all these guys have earned their place through their hard work IMO
Justin Townes Earle forever may you Rest In Peace
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 01:12 pm
Justin Townes didn't really
Justin Townes didn't really use nepotism. He grew up estranged from his dad. Perhaps the name recognition helped, but he earned it too.
Is Arlo Guthrie the first hippie nepo baby?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 01:33 pm
sam grisman just launched a
sam grisman just launched a tour playing garcia/grisman material...don't get much of that in the GD corpse humping world. gdad's daughter is doing their social media or something.would have gone if closer.
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 02:31 pm
>>Justin Townes didn't really
>>Justin Townes didn't really use nepotism. He grew up estranged from his dad. Perhaps the name recognition helped, but he earned it too.<<
that's fair.
signed,
jason crosby
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on Monday, January 9, 2023 – 03:17 pm
> Is Arlo Guthrie the first
> Is Arlo Guthrie the first hippie nepo baby?
Could be, Dave. I'm not thinking of anyone earlier.
> duane betts, derek, dweezil, nepo peepl? all these guys have earned their place through their hard work IMO
I think we can add Bonnie Raitt to that list too.
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 08:16 am
Most people don't even know
Most people don't even know who Bonnie's dad was.
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 11:12 am
The last time I saw Bonnie,
The last time I saw Bonnie, at the LA Greek about 10 years ago, she brought out her Dad and did a song with him.
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 01:29 pm
>>>Lukas is just killer
>>>Lukas is just killer
I prefer willie's younger weirder son, particle kid, not to b confused with dude or man
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 01:44 pm
I like both of the Nelson
I like both of the Nelson sons. (No, not David and Ricky)
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 01:48 pm
Rumors that Micah Nelson
Rumors that Micah Nelson (Particle Kid) will be touring as Crazy Horse's 2nd guitarist, once Neil announces some shows. Nils Lofgren is booked with Springsteen for the next couple of years and Poncho is still retired.
Ricky Nelson's kids vs. Willie Nelson's kids
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 01:52 pm
They do fill out those
They do fill out those pillowy shirts, head wraps and tight jeans nicely.
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2023 – 05:00 pm
Particle Kid is great and a
I agree with good Furious E. Particle Kid is great. He usually tours in Neil Young's band and has his own band as well.
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on Thursday, January 12, 2023 – 05:41 pm
Weir
Weir
he left his family as a minor and reverse adopted the band, so it could be argued that he was their kid.
Whether it was or wasn't a form of nepotism, I would rather see Graham front for Phil than anything Bobby has put together.
At this point, neither of them seems to be able to find a decent fake Jerry, but at least Phil and Molo are still Phil and Molo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, January 12, 2023 – 06:10 pm
>>>>he left his family as a
>>>>he left his family as a minor and reverse adopted the band,
Didn't Bob's parents let him join the band only after Jerry and Phil promised them that they would make sure he went to school everyday?