He was given Top Secret security clearance in 2021, when he would have been a nineteen year old. Seems a little young to be handed the keys to the car.
Now he's going to get made an example of and crucified.
>>>Lots of young service members are given security clearances.
Our military is run mostly by young kids. I remember back in the day hanging out with a guy on leave at shows who was a nuclear engineer who worked on subs. The military guys all liked LSD because it didn't show up on drug tests.
>lots of collective experience here in this department, I'm sure<
I had clearances at a defense/ weapons contactor and a Federal Government Agency where they collected very detailed personal info about you, but was never tempted to download documents and post them on the Zone to impress you guys.... just sayin. I will stick to impressing you with art, silly pictures, concert reviews and stupid homemade comics, like a good patriotic American.
I have to say, and if you've had the experience you'll probably agree, but it's a weird feeling when they send some normal looking person in to interview you for a security clearance and you have no idea what they know about you.
When I was younger and just had landed in San Francisco looking for work (1985), I even got lie-detectored to work at that electronics store - I forget the name -- it was a chain. Good Guys? Maybe. I had just come from a hedonistic New Years Eve run a couple of weeks before and when they asked about drug usage I answered honestly with a list. I remember they they had never heard of 2CB. I got offered the job and turned it down (because I wouldn't work for such a place), for another offer at a boutique audio store on California St called Transvision Audio -- a name which probably wouldn't fly nowadays. I did get a new Sony D6 out of that job.
>>>what's with all the dudes with spanish sir-names being all into this shit<<<
I think Teixeira is a Portuguese name, and I may be wrong but I'd imagine that Portuguese people don't take kindly to their names being called Spanish.
See Bss, this thread can go lots of different interesting ways.
Next month I have an engagement at Fort Lee -- the headquarters of the United States Army Combined Arms Support Command / Sustainment Center of Excellence. (Unfortunately, I might have to buy a new suit for the occasion). I'll certainly do my best to avoid young, male, Christian, IT traitors who circle jerk off to MTG pics and gun videos.
Not having an ideology speaks volumes about the state of today's youth. This kid probably never read a history book in his life.
Teixeira (European Portuguese: [tɐjˈʃɐjɾɐ], Brazilian Portuguese: [te(j)ˈʃejɾɐ], Galician: [tejˈʃejɾɐ]) is a Galician-Portuguese surname based on the toponym Teixeira, derived from teixo "yew tree" (Latin taxus).
an old neighbor was a carp and told me he once had a job w/ super high security clearance for some nasa? site in san jose region? anyways, some nasa scientist there made high grade speed? in the lab.
I find it disturbing that WaPo and the NYT did the bidding of the US security state by identifying the source and cheerleading his prosecution. Journalism has relied on leaks since its inception and it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government. Our system of checks and balances is based on the notion of a free press- the Fourth Estate. The press is working with the government to hide their dirty laundry. Isn't journalism supposed to be skeptical of power centers?
> it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government
How so? I would think the government wouldn't want it known that secrets had been stolen. If the mainstream media--which isn't a monolith by the way--was colluding with the government, they likely wouldn't have published the story.
I have to add that aligning yourself with the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson isn't going to buy you much, if any, agreement in this forum, Jay, but a smart guy like you should understand that.
>glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government<
FYI: "Fox News was also the most-watched basic cable network in primetime for February (2.26 million), and marked 24 consecutive months (or two straight years) as the top-rated cable news network in total viewers and among Adults 25-54."
Well, I guess you can't get more mainstream than that --- it's kinda like the definition of mainstream.
Thanks for the heads up. I always suspected Fox News was working with the government to hide their dirty laundry. Next thing you know they's uncover recordings of their billionaire owner and his news anchors showing they knowingly broadcast lies for ratings. Fuckin mainstream media.
>>> have to add that aligning yourself with the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson
I'm not aligning myself with anyone; just acting in a principled manner.
In Trump Impeachment #1, we rightfully celebrated the whistleblower over Trump's Ukraine antics. Flip the script with who has the levers of power and we're all being told to hate the whistleblower leaking Ukraine corruption this time. Rather than picking sides of an argument because of who has lined up on each side, perhaps try to act less ideological and more consistent. I hate the Republicans and Democrats equally.
Didn't we as a nation celebrate the Pentagon Papers?
The "whistleblower over Trump's Ukraine antics", Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, didn't release the information on a Discord server popular with teenagers and racists. He placed a record of Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president in a top-secret government system, and then testified to Congress about it.
I'm not seeing the principled manner you claim. It reads more like rehashed Joe Rogan talking points.
You're (intentionally?) conflating the actions of a legitimate whistleblower with those of a child who wanted to recklessly show off toys that weren't his to his friends in order to gain (digital) social credibility. He didn't do it to expose some big Ukrainian conspiracy. Is there one? What is it? Be specific. Name names.
And Jake Texiera isn't a journalistic source, he's an adolescent who violated a solemn oath (and a security clearance irresponsibility granted, yes) and also sloppily left a trail of digital breadcrumbs right to his own (parents) front door. One that a few presumably motivated investigate journalists probably investigated. I don't know much about the New York Times but if I were a journalist I know I would have done the same. Anyways so offering or deferring to the protection of his identity (intentionally?) as being equivalent or deserving of the same consideration as that of a legitimate whistleblower is pretty much just intellectually misguided.
is Ukraine corrupt? I don't know, probably. But that this somehow becomes a pretext for tolerating and/or low key supporting a Russian invasion bordering on genocide, or retroactively justifying public dissemination of the most highly classified defense information for street cred, is misplaced.
but he's not going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison anyways, military lockups are actually really safe places. Average stay is about 20 years.
>I'm not aligning myself with anyone; just acting in a principled manner.
Ah, so you enjoy fooling yourself
>I hate the Republicans and Democrats equally.
yeah, that's more of that foolishness and always hysterical to see from the folks constantly rushing to defend the GOP fascists with some false equivalency bs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 12:53 pm
He was basically an IT guy.
He was basically an IT guy. Lots of young service members are given security clearances.
Hope they throw the book at him. Alt-right racist antisemite creep.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 01:06 pm
When I was his age my main
When I was his age my main concerns were getting high, getting laid, and seeing shows.
The kids grow up too fast these days.
Enjoy pondering your lost childhood in Federal Prison, unhappy Jack.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Sunshine jaysunshine
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 01:16 pm
^^^^When I was his age my
^^^^When I was his age my main concerns were getting high, getting laid, and seeing shows.
At 53 this is still a legitimate concern to me. Not joking and I'm ok with this.
If this ever ceases than I'm truly dead, the 6 feet under kind.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 01:21 pm
>>>Lots of young service
>>>Lots of young service members are given security clearances.
Our military is run mostly by young kids. I remember back in the day hanging out with a guy on leave at shows who was a nuclear engineer who worked on subs. The military guys all liked LSD because it didn't show up on drug tests.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 01:25 pm
Finally a philzone thread on
Finally a DBMB thread on DOD security clearances
this ought to be great lol
lots of collective experience here in this department, I'm sure
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 01:29 pm
He was such a nice boy.
He was such a nice boy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 02:09 pm
>lots of collective
>lots of collective experience here in this department, I'm sure<
I had clearances at a defense/ weapons contactor and a Federal Government Agency where they collected very detailed personal info about you, but was never tempted to download documents and post them on the Zone to impress you guys.... just sayin. I will stick to impressing you with art, silly pictures, concert reviews and stupid homemade comics, like a good patriotic American.
I have to say, and if you've had the experience you'll probably agree, but it's a weird feeling when they send some normal looking person in to interview you for a security clearance and you have no idea what they know about you.
When I was younger and just had landed in San Francisco looking for work (1985), I even got lie-detectored to work at that electronics store - I forget the name -- it was a chain. Good Guys? Maybe. I had just come from a hedonistic New Years Eve run a couple of weeks before and when they asked about drug usage I answered honestly with a list. I remember they they had never heard of 2CB. I got offered the job and turned it down (because I wouldn't work for such a place), for another offer at a boutique audio store on California St called Transvision Audio -- a name which probably wouldn't fly nowadays. I did get a new Sony D6 out of that job.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 03:58 pm
what's with all the dudes
what's with all the dudes with spanish sir-names being all into this shit?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 05:02 pm
Tucker Carlson is defending
Tucker Carlson is defending the traitor, so we know the kid must be a lil MAGA turd
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-jack-teixeira-pentagon-leak-ukra...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 05:07 pm
Margie Three Names is rushing
Margie Three Names is rushing to his defense too.
Funny how these stains are both anti-war and pro-Putin.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 05:15 pm
Trump gushing over Xi is
Trump gushing over Xi is insane, but in keeping with his adoration for Dictators like Putin, Kim Jong-un, MBS. The MAGA Fascists are a funny breed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvmBGZzd8c
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 05:18 pm
>>>what's with all the dudes
>>>what's with all the dudes with spanish sir-names being all into this shit<<<
I think Teixeira is a Portuguese name, and I may be wrong but I'd imagine that Portuguese people don't take kindly to their names being called Spanish.
See Bss, this thread can go lots of different interesting ways.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 05:56 pm
Never said it couldn't
Never said it couldn't
might even go 100+
You know in fort Leavenworth the airmen and the colonels all share cells and showers and mess and what not? There's really no rank in military prison.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 06:43 pm
I see, it is portuguese...
I see, it is portuguese...
i guess it's a proper colonial opressor name...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 07:43 pm
>might even go 100+<
>might even go 100+<
spring fling, let's do it.
Next month I have an engagement at Fort Lee -- the headquarters of the United States Army Combined Arms Support Command / Sustainment Center of Excellence. (Unfortunately, I might have to buy a new suit for the occasion). I'll certainly do my best to avoid young, male, Christian, IT traitors who circle jerk off to MTG pics and gun videos.
Not having an ideology speaks volumes about the state of today's youth. This kid probably never read a history book in his life.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote Stringtwang
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 07:52 pm
Sporkfoot Marge will save him
Sporkfoot Marge will save him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 07:59 pm
> I think Teixeira is a
> I think Teixeira is a Portuguese name
Lance shoots, and scores.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 09:33 pm
an old neighbor was a carp
an old neighbor was a carp and told me he once had a job w/ super high security clearance for some nasa? site in san jose region? anyways, some nasa scientist there made high grade speed? in the lab.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 10:03 pm
>.a Galician-Portuguese
>.a Galician-Portuguese surname based on the toponym Teixeira, derived from teixo "yew tree" (Latin taxus).<
Portuguese? Then the Knights Templar MUST be involved. (Oak Island reference.}
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 10:13 pm
> the Knights Templar MUST be
> the Knights Templar MUST be involved
It was the yew trees that caught my eye. They were frequently used for longbows back when.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 11:27 pm
I find it disturbing that
I find it disturbing that WaPo and the NYT did the bidding of the US security state by identifying the source and cheerleading his prosecution. Journalism has relied on leaks since its inception and it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government. Our system of checks and balances is based on the notion of a free press- the Fourth Estate. The press is working with the government to hide their dirty laundry. Isn't journalism supposed to be skeptical of power centers?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Friday, April 14, 2023 – 11:57 pm
Hard labor is still a thing
Hard labor is still a thing in military prison too. at the Lejeune brig I know this workplace is affectionately known as the "rock pile"
Yes; young jack might actually find himself breaking big rocks into little rocks in the future
By this time his unibrow might be fully grown in. Lucky dog won't need to wipe the sweat quite as often
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 12:00 am
> it's glaringly obvious that
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 08:55 am
Yew people...
Yew people...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 12:20 pm
> it's glaringly obvious that
> it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government
How so? I would think the government wouldn't want it known that secrets had been stolen. If the mainstream media--which isn't a monolith by the way--was colluding with the government, they likely wouldn't have published the story.
I have to add that aligning yourself with the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson isn't going to buy you much, if any, agreement in this forum, Jay, but a smart guy like you should understand that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 01:43 pm
>glaringly obvious that the
>glaringly obvious that the mainstream media is working in lock stop with the government<
FYI: "Fox News was also the most-watched basic cable network in primetime for February (2.26 million), and marked 24 consecutive months (or two straight years) as the top-rated cable news network in total viewers and among Adults 25-54."
Well, I guess you can't get more mainstream than that --- it's kinda like the definition of mainstream.
Thanks for the heads up. I always suspected Fox News was working with the government to hide their dirty laundry. Next thing you know they's uncover recordings of their billionaire owner and his news anchors showing they knowingly broadcast lies for ratings. Fuckin mainstream media.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 01:51 pm
Who still has cable?
Who still has cable?
Roku may not be perfect but "Remove Channel" is cool.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 02:14 pm
>>> have to add that aligning
>>> have to add that aligning yourself with the likes of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson
I'm not aligning myself with anyone; just acting in a principled manner.
In Trump Impeachment #1, we rightfully celebrated the whistleblower over Trump's Ukraine antics. Flip the script with who has the levers of power and we're all being told to hate the whistleblower leaking Ukraine corruption this time. Rather than picking sides of an argument because of who has lined up on each side, perhaps try to act less ideological and more consistent. I hate the Republicans and Democrats equally.
Didn't we as a nation celebrate the Pentagon Papers?
YMMV. Just my .02 cents.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cultivate kindness mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 02:24 pm
The "whistleblower over Trump
The "whistleblower over Trump's Ukraine antics", Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, didn't release the information on a Discord server popular with teenagers and racists. He placed a record of Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president in a top-secret government system, and then testified to Congress about it.
I'm not seeing the principled manner you claim. It reads more like rehashed Joe Rogan talking points.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 02:41 pm
Context, manner, intent.
Context, manner, intent.
You're (intentionally?) conflating the actions of a legitimate whistleblower with those of a child who wanted to recklessly show off toys that weren't his to his friends in order to gain (digital) social credibility. He didn't do it to expose some big Ukrainian conspiracy. Is there one? What is it? Be specific. Name names.
And Jake Texiera isn't a journalistic source, he's an adolescent who violated a solemn oath (and a security clearance irresponsibility granted, yes) and also sloppily left a trail of digital breadcrumbs right to his own (parents) front door. One that a few presumably motivated investigate journalists probably investigated. I don't know much about the New York Times but if I were a journalist I know I would have done the same. Anyways so offering or deferring to the protection of his identity (intentionally?) as being equivalent or deserving of the same consideration as that of a legitimate whistleblower is pretty much just intellectually misguided.
is Ukraine corrupt? I don't know, probably. But that this somehow becomes a pretext for tolerating and/or low key supporting a Russian invasion bordering on genocide, or retroactively justifying public dissemination of the most highly classified defense information for street cred, is misplaced.
but he's not going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison anyways, military lockups are actually really safe places. Average stay is about 20 years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, April 15, 2023 – 02:42 pm
>I'm not aligning myself with
>I'm not aligning myself with anyone; just acting in a principled manner.
Ah, so you enjoy fooling yourself
>I hate the Republicans and Democrats equally.
yeah, that's more of that foolishness and always hysterical to see from the folks constantly rushing to defend the GOP fascists with some false equivalency bs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Monday, May 15, 2023 – 11:32 am
Here's your martyr
Here's your martyr
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12080153/amp/Pentagon-leaker-fi...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Tuesday, November 12, 2024 – 04:16 pm
Fucked around.
Fucked around, found out.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/11/12/massachusetts-military-secrets-l...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Tuesday, November 12, 2024 – 04:32 pm
Whatever happened to the
Whatever happened to the death penalty for treason?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, November 12, 2024 – 05:46 pm
Trump has compromised
Trump has compromised National security and gets re-elected
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD ntfdaway
on Tuesday, November 12, 2024 – 05:53 pm
Only in nightmares Nancy.
Only in nightmares Nancy. This country would never elect the likes of him to the most powerful position in the world. Never gonna happen.
(I decided to go with the river in Egypt.)