Sounds like it was the Grate Room that got torched.
Insurance scam?
Homeless loser wanting to roast a weenie?
A bitter dead head seeking delayed revenge because he was once turned away by that tyrant who worked the door?
Shapiro was once interested in the place. I always hoped he or someone else would take it on, even if just a restaurant again, just to see people back in that fun place.
Now, will it just get torn down? That would be a bummer.
Well, then there's this from a different article...
Willie McDevitt, property manager for the venue, said he didn’t know why the building may have been targeted or how the fire started. The owners plan to make immediate repairs and increase security at the property, he said, adding that the site could soon reopen as a music club with new owners.
It's not a small or easy place to run as a music venue since the majority of the property is a large restaurant, which is why Shapiro was a good choice to take it on. He's wanted to open a venue on the west coast for years though, so who knows, maybe he's been sniffing around there again.
I'm glad it didn't burn down, hopefully it will rise again.
I loved seeing Phil there and the talent he brought to such a small venue but it wasn't a good layout.
If they do bring it back I really hope they change the Grate Room to the way it was before it became Terrapin with the band stage to left as you walk in. I know he changed it so they could have a backstage for the band but it ruined the flow in the room with people constantly walking to either the bar at one end or the bathroom at the other. But who knows maybe just as bad since the only show I went to there before it became Terrapin was a Furthur rehearsal and just way less people in there than the all the people Phil would pack in.
Anyway that was one hell of an amazing run - glad I got to go to as many as I did even though I can always find a reason to complain, and speaking of complaining it was strange how it became a place to be seen in Marin - not as strange as Dead & Co at The Sphere but certainly a step along that path. It ended up being a long way from Buckle Up Kids.
If I'm seeing that photo correctly, that spot is neither on the southern end of the property or near the Grate Room. That looks to be along the back side behind the bar, near the water.
Back when it was the Palm Ballroom, DNB played there a lot. The now backstage was the "smoking" area and you could watch the show through the glass. A sign on the wall said no tobacco please.
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 05:58 pm
Dragon with matches seen
Dragon with matches seen leaving the scene
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 06:16 pm
The Great America!!!
The Great America!!!
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 06:37 pm
Sounds like it was the Grate
Sounds like it was the Grate Room that got torched.
Insurance scam?
Homeless loser wanting to roast a weenie?
A bitter dead head seeking delayed revenge because he was once turned away by that tyrant who worked the door?
Shapiro was once interested in the place. I always hoped he or someone else would take it on, even if just a restaurant again, just to see people back in that fun place.
Now, will it just get torn down? That would be a bummer.
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 08:01 pm
Well, then there's this from
Well, then there's this from a different article...
Willie McDevitt, property manager for the venue, said he didn’t know why the building may have been targeted or how the fire started. The owners plan to make immediate repairs and increase security at the property, he said, adding that the site could soon reopen as a music club with new owners.
It's not a small or easy place to run as a music venue since the majority of the property is a large restaurant, which is why Shapiro was a good choice to take it on. He's wanted to open a venue on the west coast for years though, so who knows, maybe he's been sniffing around there again.
I'm glad it didn't burn down, hopefully it will rise again.
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 08:12 pm
The Phoenix at Terrapin
The Phoenix at Terrapin Crossroads...
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on Monday, March 10, 2025 – 09:09 pm
Was it still gonna be a Tesla
Was it still gonna be a Tesla dealership?
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on Tuesday, March 11, 2025 – 12:01 am
I'm willing to blame "that
I'm willing to blame "that tyrant who worked the door".
But maybe it was a way to pay for needed upgrades before Shappy could take it over?
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on Tuesday, March 11, 2025 – 12:36 am
I'll be back.
I'll be back.
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on Tuesday, March 11, 2025 – 01:08 am
Good, Pete. That bodes well
Good, Pete. That bodes well for whatever/wherever you'll be back at...
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on Tuesday, March 11, 2025 – 03:46 pm
I loved seeing Phil there and
I loved seeing Phil there and the talent he brought to such a small venue but it wasn't a good layout.
If they do bring it back I really hope they change the Grate Room to the way it was before it became Terrapin with the band stage to left as you walk in. I know he changed it so they could have a backstage for the band but it ruined the flow in the room with people constantly walking to either the bar at one end or the bathroom at the other. But who knows maybe just as bad since the only show I went to there before it became Terrapin was a Furthur rehearsal and just way less people in there than the all the people Phil would pack in.
Anyway that was one hell of an amazing run - glad I got to go to as many as I did even though I can always find a reason to complain, and speaking of complaining it was strange how it became a place to be seen in Marin - not as strange as Dead & Co at The Sphere but certainly a step along that path. It ended up being a long way from Buckle Up Kids.
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on Tuesday, March 11, 2025 – 06:51 pm
some dude bought the bar a
some dude bought the bar a round of drinks once when i was there. never seen it before. that was nice.
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 07:54 am
Fish for the win
Fish for the win
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 10:39 am
My promotion inbox today.
My promotion inbox today.
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 12:12 pm
well that sucks
well that sucks
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 12:27 pm
Photo from FB, looks like
Photo from FB, looks like minor damage
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 02:52 pm
Phil Bombs...
Unexploded ordnance?
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 03:08 pm
I'd like to think Phil left
I'd like to think Phil left it all on the stage.
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 04:51 pm
hobo weeinie roast got out of
hobo weeinie roast got out of hand
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 06:28 pm
ing that photo correctly,
If I'm seeing that photo correctly, that spot is neither on the southern end of the property or near the Grate Room. That looks to be along the back side behind the bar, near the water.
My money is on an insurance scam.
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 06:34 pm
>>>>Dragon with matches seen
>>>>Dragon with matches seen leaving the scene
Win!!!
>>>Fish for the win
That's what I'm saying
>>>I really hope they change the Grate Room to the way it was before it became Terrapin with the band stage to left
Never knew that but always found the set up a little awkward. No depth dead center.
>>>>>>I'd like to think Phil left it all on the stage.
Bruce Hampton sure did.
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on Wednesday, March 12, 2025 – 06:44 pm
Back when it was the ballroom
Back when it was the Palm Ballroom, DNB played there a lot. The now backstage was the "smoking" area and you could watch the show through the glass. A sign on the wall said no tobacco please.