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Terrapin All-Stars to the rescue

???

I mean

somebody has to cash in on the 50th anniversary of this pretty okay-ish gig

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Math is not subjective.

Lol

Silliness. 

"I knew that we played well that night," drummer Mickey Hart tells EW. "It was a good show."

"But, for instance, that Cornell show that that people talk about, I can’t remember that specifically. It didn’t stand out for me on that tour. The whole tour was like that for me." Weir

“I don’t ever want to hear any of that shit. All it does is remind me of what I was trying to do.” Phil

somebody has to cash in on the 50th anniversary of this pretty okay-ish gig

That's in 4 more years LOL!

I guess it's never too early to get a marketing jump on that shark

I just saw this on Twitter and I saw the dead in 80 and 81 at Barton Hall. I also saw further there in 2010. 

If John Mayer and Company showed up there this March, I would stay home. I hope everyone who goes has a great time, 

Seems a bit like beating a half dead horse. I still live 45 minutes from Ithaca.

 

If that is what they need to do, well god bless them 

From what I understand it is going to be a benefit concert of some sort so pricey too.

Save Barton Hall!

...er, whatever 

Barton Hall?  Isn't that the name of Spafford's manager?

Not that I wouldn't want to attend a D&C show on campus at Cornell University, but there is no way I'm going to make it to Ithaca in May 2023. I saw a couple of good ones there. That UJB encore is burned into my brain. Anyone have (1) SPAC pavilion seat / ticket, one for each night, June 17 & 18? I am happy to pay face value for a single balcony seat. I'm not paying the stupid prices that are on TM.

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Can we talk about Mayer's replacement yet or is it too soon?  

Never too soon for that.

> Can we talk about Mayer's replacement yet or is it too soon?  

I thought Grahame was auditioning to fill Mayer's shoes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co-3ouyMFsp/

Let's see, Bob has recently sat in with JRAD and has had Goose Dude and Grahame sit in with the Wolf Brothers. My prediction is that the next Bob electric band will be comprised of Phil, Bob, Russo, Goose Dude, Grahame and Chimenti or some variation of that.

 

Kind of Furtheresque.....

...and/or Jay Lane?

No possible way Bob will be involved in a band with Phil like that.

Not going to happen.

 

Well, Bob isn't one to sit around and with the drummers done it's likely he'll at least do some shows with Phil. Phil isn't going to miss the opportunity to market Grahame so that much seems pretty likely to me. At least for a few runs of shows here and there as I'm not sure Phil has much desire to tour per se. But those two are overdue for a collaboration IMO.

^Agreed. I think that forecast is more accurate than not...but, of course, "we'll see."

I would like to see them play together also, but if that happens it would likely be a few one-offs, not 

an actual "band."

   I could see the scenario you laid out, minus Phil, plus Oteil and Jay.

BTW Paul, my wife had a great time seeing you on your birthday at Sweetwater!

Is there room/desire for more JohnK?

Phil opened this pandora's box:

Phil Lesh & Friends (with John Mayer) - 6/13/15 - Terrapin Crossroads "1977 Show"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSHw2F10GvY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=barmyjOIEhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ygxcDFGYLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j00rwXi1xAc

(I had a fun time at these shows):

^^Dont blame Phil...Mayer was fill-in Tonight Show host on Feb 4, 2015 when Weir was musical guest and they played Truckin' together for the first time live.

"Flashback: John Mayer Plays With Bob Weir for First Time, Giving Rise to Dead & Co."

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/john-mayer-bob-weir-la...

I would like to see them play together also, but if that happens it would likely be a few one-offs, not 

an actual "band.">>>

Five years tomorrow night, anniversary of the start of Bob/Phil acoustic mini tour.     3/2/18 Radio City https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRW1eDC_De8

That UJB encore is burned into my brain.>>>

The opening notes were one of the biggest stunners I heard from the Dead.  Both sets were so on the $$, I figured the band was cooked & one more quick tune & off to Syracuse.

Also caught 1980, both 2nd sets kicked off w/Shakedown>Bertha. laugh Played a couple other times in the early 80's, then dropped  sad

I blame Phil, he first played with Meyer in 2005 at the Jammys. Although maybe it wasn't love at first sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0CPiqsFFY

Maybe they can get Donna to come make this show worse than it would have been otherwise too.

BTW Paul, my wife had a great time seeing you on your birthday at Sweetwater!

it was wuite the festive night and the band was great!

Patron package ~ only $50K

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I need a miracle? LOLOLOL

For $50,000 you would think lodging would be included.

I can't remember exactly what I paid for "Circle of Gold" tickets for the Rainforest Benefit at MSG, but it was around $200 for seats in the first 10 rows, a poster, and after party with the band. 

You do get 10 tickets plus merch and other accessories for the 50k, but yeah, for that, the members of D&C should all come tuck you in.

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I went to the show in '99, not '77. $38 for Dylan and Phil with Jorma. It snowed.

A few years ago I talked to Weir on one of the anniversaries of this show, and tried to quote Dick Latvala:

"Not only was it Not the best show ever, it wasn't even the best show that week!"

 

 

I was at the 99 show.. last time I was in that building 

Cornell’s Endowment Posts 41.9% Return, Marking Largest Gain in Decades 

Cornell’s endowment climbed from $7.2 billion to $10 billion during the 2021 fiscal year — delivering the largest gain in more than three decades.

http://web.archive.org/web/20211018035329/https://cornellsun.com/2021/10...

So is someone trying to get their kid into Cornell?

So tickets are $5000 a.piece for the benefit. The do know this is Ithaca in May. It is pretty up there, but what are the high rollers supposed to do.

I wonder what scalpers will want for tickets. Best be in Bailey Hall

Anyone have any idea what the regular non-Patron price will be?  One of my brothers has a friend with a kid at Cornell who he is reaching out to for help in trying to procure some tickets.  He was a little dismayed by the $5000 price.  No Information on the D&C website about on sale date or ticket options.  I told him I'd make the trip if the ticket was reasonably priced.

Did notice that while most of their tour is sold out, there are still tickets available for Arizona, Star Lake, Fenway Night 1, Philly, Citi Field both nights, Wrigley Night 1, and 2 of the Colorado shows.  I suspect I will most likely catch The Gorge shows.  While listed as sold out, I don't expect those tickets to be that hard to find.

Congress should find it "odd" that all of the "sold out" shows still have original channel (Ticketmaster/Live Nation) tix available, with most still priced around the same level as they have always been for this DeadCo tour too.

Dave, I have heard that tickets will first be made available to students. No idea about the price.

My uncle is the head of campus security at Cornell, he is pretty certain all ticketing is going to be handled thru the college

Back in 1980 we scalped tickets off Cornell tickets fro $8 a piece. I think the 81 tickets were about the same price.

I can't imagine tickets being sold to students would be over priced. 

I went to the show in '99. Dylan and Phil with Jorma. It snowed.

Weather for 5/8/77 from a couple attendees....I remember the weather, beautiful Mother’s Day in the morning, deteriorating into cold rain and then heavy snow.

Most memorable was the weather; when we got to Cornell in the morning, it was warm and sunny, playing with the frisbee on the lawn, waiting for the liquor stores to open at noon. Clouded over and started to drizzle, so they opened the doors a little early to let the crowd in out of the rain. Went out the doors after the show to find 6-10 inches of snow and still coming down hard

"Not only was it not the best show ever, it wasn't even the best show that week!">>>The Aud in Buffalo the next night is a contender along with Boston Garden on the 7th.

"Now, Therefore, I, Jimmy Carter, President of the United States of America, do hereby request that Sunday, May 8, 1977, be observed as Mother's Day."

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4503-mothers-day-...

Student bleachers $77

Public $300 to $1500

Thanks Zooey and Fishcane!

I put in for a pair of the $300 seats at the back of the floor.

They said they'll let me know if I got them by the 17th, St. Patrick's Day.  

Hope I have the luck of the Irish!

I don't get it.

Oh sure, Turtle it's pricey, but it's a benefit for a couple of good causes, it's at a small venue that hosted a legendary show, and you'd expect this band will rise to the occasion and deliver a strong performance.  Either way, I've never been to Ithaca and seen Cornell University's grounds, and it sounds like a fun trip.  After all, we've got to live a little while were still alive.  I'd imagine the odds are stacked against me actually getting tickets, but I still believe in miracles.   YMMV and that's okay.

It's cool that they have already said they will be streaming the audio for free for all who can't be there.

What are the odds of this band "re-enacting" the '77 set list too?

That might take 3 nights for this band to get through 

LOL that didn't even occur to me. 

Still a few travel packages left if anyone wants guaranteed tickets. Most are sold out but some of the more expensive ones haven't sold out yet 

 

https://cornell23.com/travel/

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Get a life. Jfc.

^^^^ Is that directed at me or to Deadheads holding Cornell tickets?

I already maintain a colorful and over-booked professional and personal life, thank you very much!

I admire the Mini Wall of Sound creator.. met him at CAP... in true Deadhead style, he is an entrepreneur: he now designs/sells MWOS for home audio fans with deep pockets. 

^^^ and apologies if my tone is too old-school Zoner snotty... working late tonight and then packing for a move this weekend.

No offense intended, LLOLLO - least of all towards a longstanding community member.

 

I also think this whole thing is lame as fuck, and that one would have to be dumb as fuck / completely blindfolded to not understand how completely appropriated this whole shebang is. 

 

 

Again, no offense intended.

"ALL PROCEEDS BENEFIT MUSICARES & THE CORNELL 2030 PROJECT"

That part doesn't sound particularly lame.

 

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I'm thinking they will recreate the 5/8/77 set with the pace and excitement level of a 4pm Floridian supper at Denny’s

That being said, i will still turn on the SiriuxXM app and listen.

So, the show should run what? About 6-8 hours then?

Have fun Fishcane!

Man. 

I just saw a video clip of DeadCo the other day in NOLA playing Uncle John’s Band. 

The tempo is SO. FUCKING. SLOW that it is astounding. John Mayer and Jay Lane both look like they are in physical pain, trying to continue playing at such a slow fucking tempo for that song. 

It really is unbelievable. How did Weir get so over-the-top fucked up with this slow tempo obsession? 

I feel better than ever that I’m not spending the money. But that’s me. For those who are going, by all means enjoy the party. 

This seems like marketing hype for me--let's see, only original band members left.  Now, Cornell was always a solid show, but had heard mentality srrounding it--greatest show--well that is always subjective, but never for me.  Second set is indeed stellar, but gosh, I always thought the next night in Buffalo is a better show, so was Englistown and SMU tha year.  I got into tape trading heavy in 77 and remember getting a Betty Board of Cornel 3 or 3 months after the show (on my Maxcell XLS-90) and thinking good gig--but it took on a legend well beyond what it was--IMHO.

The greatest show is 8-27-72. Ha.

I wonder what the poll here would be between this and 5-08-1977,

And Pride_of_Cupertino nailed it above, it's ungodly slow.  I seriously wonder if anyone (besides Billy?) has urged Bobby to pick up the fucking pace? 

Or does simply asking that question ground an immediate dismissal from DeadCo? 

>  remember getting a Betty Board of Cornel 3 or 3 months after the show

Betty boards in 1977? Did they start circulating that early?

I always thought it was Jerry Moore's excellent audience recording that made 5/8/77 so popular.

That video of UJB from NOLA looks even more painful for John to sing the words THAT FUCKING SLOW than it is to play it that fucking slow on the guitar. 

It really is ridiculous. It’s past the point of being a bad joke. It has become almost like a deliberate affront. Just how, exactly, is it that Bob Weir really thinks that the song should be that fucking slow? And just how, exactly, is it that Weir feels that his sole individual opinion on that fucking slow tempo should be the mandatory rule that everyone in the band and in the audience must accept and obey? 

It’s ridiculous and it’s bullshit. 

IMO cornell is often considered the best because the high points of that show translate very very well to tapes, and its easier to hear those high points as a non-deadhead, casual fan or if youre not really paying attention.

properly digesting a 74 show requires an experienced GD listener who is paying attention to the music. its easy to miss alot of those high points if you are not paying attention or dont know what to listen for - but with cornell, and 77 in general, those high points are very obvious and very digestible.

Any rumors of a Phil appearance with Dead and Co ?

Hey MIKE-drop

Well, maybe itr wasn't a Betty board but A hi quality audience--, haven't  put it in a deck in maybe 25 years-still have the tapes somewhere

Agree with Dr. Benway that it was a widely circulated tape, easy to digest, in upstate NY, long a dead stronghold, probably got great press. It is a solid show any overtime, people would so oh this was the best or this version of this song was the best and people tend to jump on those bandwagons  Also, back in the day Relix Magazine probably talked it up

> And just how, exactly, is it that Weir feels that his sole individual opinion on that fucking slow tempo should be the mandatory rule that everyone in the band and in the audience must accept and obey?

Of the remaining GD members, Weir is as close to being a marquee name as D&C gets, so he gets to call the shots. As for the audience accepting Weir's tempos, we vote with our wallets, and D&C hasn't seen a dime from me.

Asking for a friend: Will Billy K be in tonight's lineup at Cornell?

My Magic 8 ball says:

"NO"

"NOT IF PHIL's THERE"

 "NOT UNLESS BOBBY STOPS TELLING ME TO DRUM AT A SLOWER PACE"

 

 

but check your Tarot cards to confirm :)

LOL Nancy (and hi girlfriend!)

There's no reason to think that Billy would show just because it's Cornell... especially when he was so happy playing with others in NOLA this weekend...

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Well, we probably know what they're Not going to play.....

>>>"NOT IF PHIL's THERE"

What's the Billy Phil beef?   I mustv'e missed something.

 

Always thought the Fire on the Mountain was exceptional but other than that don't get it. 

Oh Boy!!!!

> Always thought the Fire on the Mountain was exceptional

The Dew's pretty hot too.

>What's the Billy Phil beef?   I mustv'e missed something
 

 

Beats me

 

when was the last time you saw them together?

just guessing there's 'something' that happened between them

"when was the last time you saw them together?"

2015.

We are only 2 years away from the 60th Anniversary of the Grateful Dead.

Are you ready to party?

 

Let's start some (ugly) rumors!

I heard that, after the FTW shows, Phil sent each of Mickey and Bill a map of where the find the one.

^^^
I don't know what the current or any beef was/is, however I was listening to Sirius Gans/Lambert show on Sunday and Pete Lavezzoli the current drummer for Jazz is Dead was on and spoke of a recent conversation he had with Phil Lesh about the drums and the Grateful Dead, and Phil said to him that he believed that if it was any other drummer, The Grateful Dead would never have been what they became. That's some pretty high praise in my opinion. 

Supposed free stream for the show tonight?    I didn't see anything on Dead and Company website?  

Don't know if there is a free stream tonight (possibly an audio stream), but here is the link for the nugs.net stream, which is $30 or $15 with a subscription:

https://www.nugs.net/live-download-of-dead-and-company-barton-hall---cor...

The Dead and Company YouTube channel is providing a free audio stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH1kNHh9rRE

Lest we forget:

There’s been a lot of talk lately about the legendary fake show on 5/8/77. I’ve kept my silence on the subject for 42 years... now it’s finally time to come clean on the whole subject.

The whole idea began back in late 1969/early 1970. The Department of Defense and the CIA were very disappointed by the way the Vietnam War was progressing. Not only were we losing but, more importantly, the US public did not approve of the war and, worse yet, weren’t believing everything the military said about what was happening. This was an unprecedented event. Every other recent war was viewed positively by the public... or at least with apathy in the case of Korea. Something had to be done. They decided to take a page from the Soviets and experiment with mind control. Together with Disney and a fledgling computer company called Microsoft, they set out to prove that brainwashing could really work on the very people who opposed them: the hippies.

It isn’t widely known but Cornell was actually the second test of these mind control procedures. The first occurred in mid-1975 and was a dismal failure. 2 major mistakes were made. First, they picked the one time that the Dead were not touring. This created all sorts of problems with the subject audience. The more serious mistake was in not updating the criteria of the experiment. Due to typical government inefficiency, they used the 1969 version of the Dead that was playing when the program was conceived. The sudden appearance of Pigpen, who had died 2 years earlier, literally blew the minds of those in attendance. 6 months were spent erasing all traces of the "show" and carefully rebuilding as much of their minds as possible. The subjects were eventually released and most of them became evangelists, their only lingering memory of the whole experiment being an unshakeable belief that they’d witnessed a true miracle.

Unfortunately, no tapes have been found from this first experiment. That’s a real shame because the version of Dark Star->St Stephen->Eleven->Lovelight used was supposedly the best ever. After a few drinks, the original scientists still speak in awe about the music heard that day.

By Nov 1977, everyone was ready for the second test. This time, they learned from their mistakes. A small group of college students were hired to attend shows from 1976 through 1977. Our job was to collect tapes of the Dead’s performances, select which tunes to use, and to help identify subjects for the upcoming experiment. The location and date were chosen with equal care. It was a off-day during the tour and the location close enough to the real concerts to be believed. Of more importance was the late snowfall that day. That unusual and easily confirmed event provided the glue that would hold the implanted memories together. Even now 22 years later, people "remembering" that concert use almost identical words to describe leaving the show.

Overall, the experiment was a great success. Of course, some people were given slightly different memories. Some, like Teddy Goodbear, "remember" taping the show and were even provided "Audience" tapes to further cement the hoax. Still others remember getting "horribly smashed" up front. None of this actually occurred.

A week after the "concert" experiment, a 2nd test was done on the town of Cornell itself. In order to perfect this hoax, the town itself must also be convinced that the concert took place. Disney had acquired owner- ship of all the local TV and radio stations through dummy corporations. Using special chips developed by Microsoft, they played sublimbminal messages to every man, woman and child in a 100 mile radius of Barton Hall. For the most part, this programming still holds today although some people did prove resistant to the message.

As far as the source of the music, for the most part the list posted by "brew ziggins" is correct. The only mystery remaining is the Scarlet-> Fire. That was actually performed by the Dead specifically for this experiment. Since Jerry worked for the CIA, it was easy to convince him and the rest of the band to go along. Plus he liked the idea of "pranking" a large group of people like this. The fabled 2/6/77 "take a step back" rehearsal tape is also from material taped for these experiments.

The soundboard tapes in circulation were leaked by Betty O’Connell who edited the original tapes. I don’t know if it was just a coincidence or not, but they were leaked at about the same time as the tapes recorded by Betty Cantor were found. In any event, they became part of the so-called "Betty Boards". Leaking these tapes also provided the first cracks in the hoax to appear since the tapes were distributed to people who were not in the experiment and who knew that no show was performed that day. It was necessary to obtain their silence through blackmail, bribery and in extreme cases, mind control itself. That’s also how this "show" came to be listed in all the popular Dead show guides like DeadBase.

So what’s happened to these mind control techniques used in this experiment? Microsoft has used this power to become one of the biggest, most influential companies in history. They sure didn’t become that big by providing quality products. It was used to shape public reaction to the Gulf War. It’s also clear that George Bush never understood the full power of these methods. There are also indications that this technology might explain the otherwise unbelievable popularity of rap music.

That’s the whole story.

https://deadheaddy.com/cornell.html

I have Like 6 Versions of 5-8-77

Always Liked The Dancin and Scarlet  Fire

77 dead is soft. 

not worth listening to

no crunch

elevator music

It's on. Minglewood to open. 

Pretty uptempo Minglewood for these guys....

Minglewood

Althea

 

Estimated

Tempos are A OK thus far

Eyes

Sounds better than I had anticipated. Mayer's lead are fluid.

I think they read Pride's couple of rants...

This is a real goooood Eyes!!!

They're not adhering to the original setlist.

Jack Straw

Far from it Dave. And it also won't be a real "re-enactment" unless everyone is "horribly smashed" up front at the start of set 2....

 

Friends just wrote me that they'd rather see DSO do the reenactment, LOL.

Billy the drummer is sorely missed.

I wonder how the fans who paid the big $$ for this benefit are feeling about this setlist / performance?

yawn.

 

Friends just wrote me and said it was awesome to be in Barton Hall with a few dudes that were there in 77.

I heard Pete on Tales yesterday also, and he was referring to when he and Phil and Mayer and gang did a recreation of the 77 Barton Hall show at TXR in 2015. That was apparently when Phil and Pete were talking about music and how the Dead played back in the day, and Phil said that the Dead would never have worked musically with any other drummer besides Billy. Considering how Phil and Bill hadn’t been on friendly terms by then for quite some time, it seemed like a very honest and sincere thing for Phil to say. Music is music, and he gave Bill serious props.

It really is too bad that Billy is out for this last go round. Jay is rock solid, but it’s not the same thing. Oh well. 

I’m listening to tonight’s show on XM, and it actually sounds pretty good. Maybe they do read this board and saw my rant about tempos, but I very very much doubt that! I’m glad they’re mixing up the setlist tonight instead of just doing the original show. The Minglewood opener was a good fake-out, though. 

Face-ripping Oteil bass solo after Eyes. 

Pretty ripping Slipknot right now.  Wonder how many Cornell Business Major undergrads are deciding to switch to an Anthropology Major right now?

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Not bad, all in all... I also hope there are some college kids there getting their heads rearranged a bit...

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

The band picked me up at my college in 1980. Head rearranged indeed!

Actually listenable! and pretty darn good The china rider cooked... way past my bed time though.. 

scarlet fyre

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

Space>

West L.A. Fadeaway Jam>

Scarlet Begonias

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

Space>

West L.A. Fadeaway Jam>

Scarlet Begonias>

Fire On The Mountain

 

 

Bon soir, Monsieur Tommy!

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

Space>

West L.A. Fadeaway Jam>

Scarlet Begonias>

Fire On The Mountain (Oteil lead vocals)

Morning Dew

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

Space>

West L.A. Fadeaway Jam>

Scarlet Begonias>

Fire On The Mountain (Oteil lead vocals

Morning Dew

Terrapin Station

 

Sorry i missed most of this show!  Just tuned in to the Morning Dew at the above video link.  Great quality and oh my god the band sounds great!

No encore?


^ terrapin

they didn't leave the stage because of curfew and went way over

1st Set 

Minglewood Blues

Althea

Estimated Prophet

Eyes Of The World

Jack Straw

Bertha 

Cassidy 

Deal

 

2nd Set 

China Cat Sunflower>

I Know You Rider

Help On The Way>

Slipknot>

Franklin's Tower

Drums>

Space>

West L.A. Fadeaway Jam>

Scarlet Begonias>

Fire On The Mountain (Oteil lead vocals)

Morning Dew

Terrapin Station

 

For once, they rose to the occasion.  Well done, Dead & Co., and thanks for the free stream.

Yes, after China > Rider everything got real groovy.  I love to hate this band but there was good music played tonight.

restreaming first set now. Same link.  sounds great. the Eyes>Estimated very hot

Very happy they are restreaming the whole show.  Quality of stream and light show are all top shelf stuff.  I missed most of it the first time through,  so i'm very happy to get to see the whole thing on the rerun.  Eyes>Estimated first set was great. Whole second set just stellar IMHO.  I'm into the drums now. Boy could they have ripped up a Dark Star> St. Stephen>Eleven on this night. They are all very tight and the Help>Slip>Frank was cooking. Not sure how Bob got his singing voice back to this level, but he is singing so much better than he was a decade ago. 

I’m guessing he doesn’t smoke anymore which will definitely help his voice. Maybe he likes edibles, but not smoking will make a big difference, along with basic healthy living like laying off the booze, drinking plenty of water, eating well, exercise, sleep, etc. It’s not rocket science, if you have the will to pull it off. 

what no donut rap?

I don't always go to Deadco shows but when I do, its Cornell..

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High expectations for summer tour!!!!  By far the best DeadCo I've heard!  
Basically,  everything from Estimated through Terrapin was performed with the utmost of care and love!  These guys put their hearts into this one!   As much as everyone loves to hate on Mayer;   The man brought it;   As well as the rest of the band.   Props to Jay Lane;   The drums section was quite fine!   I'll see how the summer tour starts out;   But will probably custie up for one of the nights at Citi Field.  
 

I only heard a little snippet and it sounded very good....yet very much not my cup of tea.  It feels too pop-y for my liking, like genericized dead.  Nothing wrong with it.  Just not for my ears.   
 

what were the marvelous surprises that we couldn't imagine?  

Not a D&Co fan

Enjoyed the hell out of it last night as the Heat put the Knicks down again.

I found it interesting that when Drums started, it wasn't using the typical pre recorded loops. Just sticks on skins.

 

There were 'Cornell Bird' sounds during drums last night. Anyone else notice? haha

Mickey's Instagram:

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Watched the entire stream last night on Nugs and came away very impressed.

The "All New Rhythm Devils" section with Jay and Mickey was more than just fine, seemed like a absolute improvement to me.

Jay takes cues from John and Bobby and is able to shift gears on the fly and nearly lay out entirely for a few moments or somewhat stifle the drumming attack so that softer moments in the jams can occur organically.  This led to many more moments of varied dynamics in one show than I can recall ever occurring with this band previously.

And he keeps steady, ready time on a mostly consistent basis.

Not a lot of tennis shoes in the dryer moments last night - I'd say that bodes very well for the summer tour.

Kudos to them for a powerhouse show and here's hoping they keep it up and go out with a nice bang this summer.  My oh my.

poster is sick

can we just give it up one time for the artists still actually putting real ink and paint on paper?

 

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I went for this one, nod to the original. The cartoon bears don't do anything for me

~12 hours and it's already on the wall

well done buddy

Haha, thanks lol I had a few extra minutes today 

>> The cartoon bears don't do anything for me <<

I agree 100% Lazy art.

Lol lazy

 

I'm looking at dozens of hours hunched over a desk mostly freehanding with colored pencils

vs

vector fonts straight from the free trial version of adobe illustrator and... a stealie

that's 30 minutes of "work" right there. It literally takes longer to set up the printer tha

Ah nvm
to each his own 

 

show did sound good btw

I agree, def impressive effort and people do love em. Just not for me... 

FYI the Bears poster was the VIP poster, so those that got that one paid dearly  for it.... 

Damn Fish, that's got to be a record...

Might be time for me to frame the Dylan/Phil poster from '99...

Glad you had fun.

Are you people all on drugs?

 

I thought so.

Not my cup of shroom tea, but I'm glad folks had fun.

 

Really, now it's just the latest incarnation of Ratdog - Weir, Chimenti, and Lane, with Oteil replacing Wasserman, and Mayer instead of Karan or Kimmock.

 

Notice I didn't mention Hart.

Yeah, so it's glorified Ratdog, but top-shelf Ratdog, which, on a special night, could be pretty damn sick...

I have seen this band some years, and stayed away on purpose other years... but on a good night they can give the stadium a good time. It's 2023, hard to argue with that...


siriusxm replay just started at 5pm (est)

 

They are like 93+ Dead. They will have amazing moments but at several times during the show they will have you questioning your life choices and why you decided to go to the show, but with way better set lists. 


^ so you're sayin just like family medicine


i like the way you talk

>>>Are you people all on drugs?
 

Checks out.

>They are like 93+ Dead......<

LOL. Very well said.


^ straw nose for sure

 

 


jrad for 2 free tonight avl

speak up

for you, not somebody else

 

 


*closed

 

All I feel like saying is that I am glad I went. As far as Dead Co goes, it was top shelf. 
 

For me, I had a killer weekend. Four nights in Ithaca. Grateful Dead cover bands every night. Chicken wings four days. Lots of beer. And I met up with a college friend for the weekend that I hadn't seen since Fare The Well eight years ago in Chicago. Absolute magic for me. Awesome weekend. Great show. 


thats's awesome 

That's my sentiment as well,felt like New Years used to. 

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i was front row, Franklins Tower, was like having a box seat

>>>They are like 93+ Dead. They will have amazing moments but at several times during the show they will have you questioning your life choices and why you decided to go to the show, but with way better set lists.

 I think your first part is right on the money regarding hot and cold spots, but I still would rather go to 93 dead than D+C any day.  I thought the above Cornell setlist lacked creativity which seems on par with the band.  Was it solid song selection?  Sure.  Was it fun if you were there?  Likely/  But I would never go to a D+C show and think something special might happen.  Even in later era dead, you still got a rare moment of something unique.   

>>>> I’m guessing he doesn’t smoke anymore which will definitely help his voice. >>>

yep ;)
 

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This is a pretty damn long thread for a band that nobody on this board likes.

I'm enjoying all the qualifications in the positive comments.

My comment is that after 28 years of the main band being gone, not much of anything related to the Grateful Dead that lots of people are enjoying should be too strongly criticized.

Because really, in the end what else was it really all about?

Long live the Grateful Dead.

LONG LIVE THE GRATEFUL DEAD!!!!!!!!!!

This was a fun venue to see a show, (2) back in the day. Those illuminated windows bring back some nice memories. It's nice seeing photos of fans having a good time in a great space.

My niece was crushed that my sister wouldn't shell out $1000 for a ticket.  Instead, they did couch tour with people streaming the shows from their phones.  I heard it was wack a mole, with Swift's organization shutting down each stream before another would pop up.

Dead & Co. offered a free stream, did they not?  I just clicked on a link posted here and watched the whole thing.  Incredible pro-shoot quality for both audio and video.  Best live stream I've watched in a long time.  Those who complain about tempo wouldn't have had an argument on this night. I have not checked youtube to see if any of that pro-shoot stream is posted.  I did see an audience post of the Help>Slip>Frank, but the quality really wasn't there.