Yeah. In the grand scheme of things, switching to a plant based diet and avoiding factory farmed animal products will go a lot further in helping the environment than not getting a plastic thingy with your sugary drink.
than not getting a plastic thingy with your sugary drink<<<
Perhaps this raises another issue re: The People's Republic of Boulder and their zeal to target "sugary drinks" and I would suspect are also mounting a push for the elimination of straws. Are people who use straws with sugary drinks are better off than those who don't re: lessening the potential for tooth decay?
Unless this is just a giant scheme by ned -- who's shipping said discarded xmas trees to Mexico where they're refabbed into wooden straws with very cheap labor?
also, it is best practice to basically NOT use plastic wherever you can.
years ago my kids' HS surf class lobbied the newport beach city council for a styrofoam ban on take out food. they got it passed in one of the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative counties in the USA...
I used to volunteer for Lake Merritt (Oakland) clean up every Saturday for a few years. Wayyyy too many straws and cigarette butts wash down into that "lake."
Little steps in the right direction are better than not doing anything positive at all.
At the very least, people who use straws should make an effort to dispose of them properly.
Steak's yummy, but I probably eat it 2-4 times per year. I think that it's more of a cheapskate thing on my end more than anything else...
My sister & me would always launch the paper straw-wrapper to unknown neighbors' booths in restaurants, back when we were 20-somethings. Mom & Pop would get mad.
Personally I just loved those "Crazy Straws" which, to explain for the younger generation, were these Fractal-Helix straws made of thick plastic, reusable and High - Tech.
Well Mars, if ya wanna make a big deal out of every environmental contradiction...it's easy to do.
There's lots of contradictions in this world, like "patriots" who support free speech in America, well, most the time.
Been noticing this at restaurants lately. Fact is dropping two plastic straws at the table is SOP, and they are mostly unneeded and never asked for, by us at least.
Got told by one server after they're on the table and out of their sight, they can't take 'em back. So we have to hand 'em back to the server as soon as they drop them.
Pain in the ass to have to pay attention to this. Seems like an odd practice to me, dropping unneeded plastic straws that weren't asked for.
Not a big deal, but if I can help bring about change on this habit, I'll do it.
Well Mars, if ya wanna make a big deal out of every environmental contradiction...it's easy to do<<<
True enough, re: being easy to do; however, at what point do inconsistencies become just another form of "interpersonal green washing"?
Look at it this way: say you are out of cash, but need $10 for gas and are running late to pick up your kids after school. You realize you haven't cashed in your piggy bank full of change, so you quickly dump it onto the floor. Let me guess, you scan and gather up all the quarters first?
I have never ever been a victim of the straw paper landing on my plate.<<<
What about some kid who holds the straw near your ear after having twisted the straw from both ends, then flicks the center portion with his finger making a loud "pop"?
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Yeah. In the grand scheme of
Yeah. In the grand scheme of things, switching to a plant based diet and avoiding factory farmed animal products will go a lot further in helping the environment than not getting a plastic thingy with your sugary drink.
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I use a wood straw
I use a wood straw constructed from discarded xmas trees.
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I like steak.
I like steak.
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than not getting a plastic
than not getting a plastic thingy with your sugary drink<<<
Perhaps this raises another issue re: The People's Republic of Boulder and their zeal to target "sugary drinks" and I would suspect are also mounting a push for the elimination of straws. Are people who use straws with sugary drinks are better off than those who don't re: lessening the potential for tooth decay?
Unless this is just a giant scheme by ned -- who's shipping said discarded xmas trees to Mexico where they're refabbed into wooden straws with very cheap labor?
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the straw movement is for
the straw movement is for real.
people that live by the beach get it...
also, it is best practice to basically NOT use plastic wherever you can.
years ago my kids' HS surf class lobbied the newport beach city council for a styrofoam ban on take out food. they got it passed in one of the most conservative cities in one of the most conservative counties in the USA...
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https://www.amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com/Kikkerland-Biodegradable-Paper-Straws-Striped/dp/...
also will eat meat. not really into slabs of steak. just small portions. and of course the org/grass fed shit if possible.
i was a veg. for 10 yrs. i have bovine credits.
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>>>the straw movement is for
>>>the straw movement is for real.
people that live by the beach get it...
I used to volunteer for Lake Merritt (Oakland) clean up every Saturday for a few years. Wayyyy too many straws and cigarette butts wash down into that "lake."
Little steps in the right direction are better than not doing anything positive at all.
At the very least, people who use straws should make an effort to dispose of them properly.
Steak's yummy, but I probably eat it 2-4 times per year. I think that it's more of a cheapskate thing on my end more than anything else...
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PS: I don't have a desire to
PS: I don't have a desire to use straws, but my kids do.
We have a few of these and they work quite well:
https://www.amazon.com/SipWell-Stainless-Drinking-Cleaning-Included/dp/B...
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(((Family Straw)))
(((Family Straw)))
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I use a straw straw.
I use a straw straw.
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ps. my buddy just got 2nd
ps. my buddy just got 2nd place in a national trucker talent show.
his original song's opening line is
"you get a line and i'll get a straw,
and we'll haul chickens outta arkansas"...
i don't think the conservatives liked the druggo line.
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Jack Straw vs Jack Meat. Who
Jack Straw vs Jack Meat. Who would you bet on?
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Conservatives love cocaine
Conservatives love cocaine
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Knew a guy in the fourth or
Knew a guy in the fourth or fifth grade last named Straw.
He was that guy in the cafeteria that blew the paper off the straw . He was good. Never knew where it was going to land.
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My sister & me would always
My sister & me would always launch the paper straw-wrapper to unknown neighbors' booths in restaurants, back when we were 20-somethings. Mom & Pop would get mad.
Personally I just loved those "Crazy Straws" which, to explain for the younger generation, were these Fractal-Helix straws made of thick plastic, reusable and High - Tech.
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Well if ya wanna make a big
Well Mars, if ya wanna make a big deal out of every environmental contradiction...it's easy to do.
There's lots of contradictions in this world, like "patriots" who support free speech in America, well, most the time.
Been noticing this at restaurants lately. Fact is dropping two plastic straws at the table is SOP, and they are mostly unneeded and never asked for, by us at least.
Got told by one server after they're on the table and out of their sight, they can't take 'em back. So we have to hand 'em back to the server as soon as they drop them.
Pain in the ass to have to pay attention to this. Seems like an odd practice to me, dropping unneeded plastic straws that weren't asked for.
Not a big deal, but if I can help bring about change on this habit, I'll do it.
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Well Mars, if ya wanna make a
Well Mars, if ya wanna make a big deal out of every environmental contradiction...it's easy to do<<<
True enough, re: being easy to do; however, at what point do inconsistencies become just another form of "interpersonal green washing"?
Look at it this way: say you are out of cash, but need $10 for gas and are running late to pick up your kids after school. You realize you haven't cashed in your piggy bank full of change, so you quickly dump it onto the floor. Let me guess, you scan and gather up all the quarters first?
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>>>>>your piggy bank full of
>>>>>your piggy bank full of change, so you quickly dump it onto the floor. Let me guess, you scan and gather up all the quarters first?
I just bring it to the bank and they dump the whole thing in their machine.
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Is this thread doing better
Is this thread doing better here or on PT?
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I just bring it to the bank
I just bring it to the bank and they dump the whole thing in their machine.<<<
... and we all know what happened to Arnold when he was insistent upon lingering at the bank.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV0oCv4lDmc
"Little Timmy Hoover likes to go shopping with his mother" (in Elaine's voice)
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A Seinfeld nerd too huh?
A Seinfeld nerd too huh?
You're probably a blast in 3d
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in 3d<<<
in 3d<<<
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I had an Abe Lincoln
I had an Abe Lincoln stacheless beard when I was 19-20.
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The chinstrap is one of the
The chinstrap is one of the worst facial hair looks.
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I have never ever been a
I have never ever been a victim of the straw paper landing on my plate. One of those, happens to someone else, things I guess.
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24 Abe Lincolns and one Union
24 Abe Lincolns and one Union general agree, Fredrick Douglas was pretty cool
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I have never ever been a
I have never ever been a victim of the straw paper landing on my plate.<<<
What about some kid who holds the straw near your ear after having twisted the straw from both ends, then flicks the center portion with his finger making a loud "pop"?
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Turn down ten straws, get a
Turn down ten straws, get a steak.
It's all about balance, people.
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Refusing a straw does not
Refusing a straw does not make one an environmentalist.
On our trip to the Grand Canyon is when our family was educated on the plastic straw issue.
I only eat recycled beef now