Photo, left to right: John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Miles Davis, Bill Evans
Yes, happy birthday to one of my favorites. This pic was taken during the recording of 'Kind of Blue' where he played tenor sax. I think I'll go spin that album now while I get a few things done around the house.
Thelonious Monk — piano
John Coltrane — tenor saxophone
Ray Copeland — trumpet on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Gigi Gryce — alto saxophone on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Coleman Hawkins — tenor saxophone on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Wilbur Ware — bass
Shadow Wilson — drums on "Ruby, My Dear", "Trinkle, Tinkle" and "Nutty"
Art Blakey — drums on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
The natural extention of that is this amazing live document (the commercial release is outstanding):
John Coltrane — soprano saxophone on "Olé" and "To Her Ladyship"; tenor saxophone on "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha"
Freddie Hubbard — trumpet
Eric Dolphy — flute on "Olé" and "To Her Ladyship"; alto saxophone on "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha" (credited as "George Lane" due to contractual obligations)
McCoy Tyner — piano
Reggie Workman — bass on "Olé," "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha"
Art Davis — bass on "Olé," "Dahomey Dance" and "To Her Ladyship"
Elvin Jones — drums
^Haven't heard that one. Looks like a solid line up. Two trumpets is an interesting concept. Love me some Hubbard. I liked Coltrane final couple of albums even though the critics dogged them. He was an unbelievable talent. A legendary musician at the highest level. Always a pleasure to listen.
Alice Coltrane, "Sri Rama Ohnedaruth" Lord Of Lords (1973)
Alice Coltrane – Harp, Organ, Percussion, Piano, Timpani
Charlie Haden – Bass
Ben Riley – Drums, Percussion
with a large string
orchestra arranged and
conducted by Alice Coltrane
I'm seeing his son Ravi tonight in SF playing A Love Supreme with a brilliant group including Nicholas Peyton.
I'm not a huge fan of Ravi, but this should be real good.
I don't listen to a lot of John Coltrane, his music can be a bit dense and his playing is a little busy & frantic for my taste, but there is a time & place where I enjoy listening to him; I like the recordings from the Village Vanguard.
But my respect & awe at what he did and how that opened doors and influenced the type of music I love best is unmatched.
Coltrane sure did always work with the best people.
And I thought the 7:00 show last night was pretty good with a few amazing passages, but overall it seemed a little disjointed. A long bass solo towards the end didn't help. I thought the best thing they played was a piece from Crescent (the one Coltrane album I listen to) in the first set.
>>>but the sound was dominated by the drummer<<<
I wonder if you were sitting on the stage left side. Given that with almost all jazz bands the drummer is set up on the left side of the stage the drums in any room can often be too loud if sitting on that side, and especially at the Miner in SF.
The foolish design of that place leaves the entire right side of the stage obstructed for the seats along the side in the balcony, so they always set things up with the band off-center to the left, which usually puts the drummer even more to the left and directly in front of the people sitting there.
I always try to sit on the stage right side of rooms when seeing jazz, as the piano is usually on that side and is louder there. The drums always make it through the sound, whether it's mostly amplified like at the Miner or just clean sound in a small room. I was on that side last night and the drums were mixed perfectly for me.
Following the death of her husband, Alice Coltrane continued to expand upon the spiritual direction that his compositions had pointed towards. She frequently collaborated with other, similarly minded artists working not only within the realms of free jazz, but also within those spaces where the "new sound" (of the avant garde of jazz), Eastern philosophy and modal musical patterns (specifically Indian classical and North African folk musics), and even chamber musics could intersect.
While the work of Pharoah Sanders on albums like Journey In Satchidananda and A Monastic Trio remains groundbreaking, wildly inventive, and constantly teetering between exhiliarating and openly provocative, the introduction of Joe Henderson into the cosmic worlds of the Coltrane legacy (beginning with Ptah, the El Daoud) are perhaps even more resounding to me (specifically within that context, as I love Pharoah's work and it would be impossible for me to judge in some kind of ridiculous objective manner).
Joe Henderson's The Elements represents a bedrock of that spiritual "out" sound, and the lineup on it (and the playing on it)is nothing short of brilliant:
Joe Henderson - tenor sax, flute, alto flute
Alice Coltrane - piano, harp, Tambura, harmonium
Charlie Haden - bass
Leon "Ndugu" Chancler - drums (1, 4)
Kenneth Nash - narrator (4), flute (3), congas, North African Sakara Drum, bells, gong, percussion
Baba Duru Oshun - percussion, Tabla
Michael White - violin
All those Alice records are dope but my favorite is Huntington Ashram Monastery. Trio with Carter and Ali, with Alice playing harp on one side, piano on the other. Sometimes less is more
Also later records like Divine Songs are incredible, very different but waaay out of the shadow of her husband
I'm going to give that 'Huntington Ashram Monastery another deep dive, good deal.
As to Alice getting far out of John's shadow, I can't recommend the Luaka Bop compilation 'The Ecstatic Music of Alice Coltrane' enough, if you haven't heard it. It's just straight up spiritual / devotional music she composed or played while living at the ashram, all the tracks sourced from private press tapes. The liner notes, photographs and just the whole production of the thing is beautiful.
Right now I'm in the middle of negotiating a trade for Coltrane's 'Expression,' which I believe contains his last recording.
Great lineup on that title, Furious E. I'm going to have to scope it out. Just closed a deal on that copy of Expression, I'm really excited to hear that once it's come in.
Since I brought up the "deep dive" earlier, two great reads taking a "Deep Dive" into the Coltrane discography...
I heard this dude give a lecture about Coltrane possibly adapting the second theme of a piece by Morton Gould for his song "Impressions." Reading his article, the song's genesis becomes even more interesting (and since I just grabbed a nice copy of the album Impressions, I was fascinated). The audio links are sick, too:
This was a cool read as well, there's a nice mix of selections from better known albums (Live At Birdland, My Favorite Things) among some really lesser known live recordings, and less popular titles, like Africa/Brass. The writing is solid:
That title by McCoy Tyner, Extensions, is really really rich. Wayne Shorter's playing on it is absolutely great. The drumming, too; Elvin Jones' style is absolutely unmistakeable. Quite a lineup.
Right now I'm giving this one a thorough listen, it almost sounds like they are dipping into the main theme of "A Love Supreme" during the take on "The Creator Has A Master Plan."
Pharoah Sanders live at the Festival de Jazz de Nice 1971-07-18
Pharoah Sanders - tenor sax
Lonnie Liston Smith - piano
Cecil McBee - bass
Jimmy Hopps - drums
Lawrence Killian - congas
"Maybe because I had begun absorbing the Grateful Dead’s exploratory “Dark Star,” I found some of Concert in Japan accessible enough so that it did not immediately send me running for the hills"
>> "The Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings" box set
The playing on that box set is outstanding but I've been diving into live recordings from 1963, a watershed year in that group's almost telepathic levels of interplay. These are two shows from Europe '63 that I've been playing:
I've been spinning nonstop Eugenius. Really ecstatic music.
Speaking of the ecstatic, and ecstatic music in particular, and this is only tangential, but the Village Vanguard's got a disgusting program coming up in November of various bands doing John Zorn's (I guess) newest (?) book of devotional / experimental / avant jazz / klezmer / modern chamber Masada music. All sorts of filthy lineups. No classic Electric Masada (which is to say no Marc Ribot) but some great bands like Cyro Baptista's Banquet of the Spirits, and (this is huge) two sets of the Gnostic Trio. That will be some straight up heaven music.
Frisell's tour schedule, it's not listed on here but the Gnostic Trio sets are Tuesday, November 14 in NYC:
Fall Tours
October 7th
Urbana, IL
Krannert Center for the Arts
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 8th
Columbus, OH
Lincoln Theatre
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 9th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 9th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 10th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 11th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 12th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 13th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 14th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 17th
Durham, NC
Durham Fruit & Produce Company
JD Allen Trio with special guest Bill Frisell
October 19th
Boston, MA
Berklee Performance Center
Michael Gibbs Directs the Only Chome-Waterfall Orchestra featuring Gary Burton, Bill Frisell, Jim Odgren and the Berklee Concert Jazz Orchestra
October 20th
Portland, ME
Blue
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
October 21st
Portland, ME
Blue
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
October 22nd
Concord, MA
Umbrella Community Arts Center
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
November 2nd
Paris, France
Festival Jazz Sur Le Fil
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 3rd
Warsaw, Poland
Jazz Jamboree Warsaw at Studio Koncertowe Polskiego Radia
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 4th
Leeds, England
The Howard Assembly Room / Opera North
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 5th
Leuven, Belgium
30CC / Schouwburg
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 7th
Schaan, Liechtenstein
TAK Theater Liechtenstein
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 8th
Gent, Belgium
De Bijloke - Kraakhuis
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 9th
Milano, Italy
Teatro dell'Arte
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 10th
Den Bosch, Netherlands
Verkadefabriek
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 11th
Madrid, Spain
International Festival Jazz Madrid - Centro Cultural Conde Duque
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 17th
Santa Cruz, CA
Kuumbwa Jazz Center
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
November 18th
Berkeley, CA
The Freight and Salvage
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
November 19th
Santa Monica, CA
Moss Theater
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
The Michael Gibbs program at Berklee looks awesome, gonna look up some of his music since I just grabbed two front row tickets to that.
Also psyched for Frisell / Wolleson duo.
This one sounds great. Sounds like Eric Dolphy is playing clarinet on the second solo. Probably the definitive version is from Coltrane "Live" at the Village Vanguard, and you get four full versions out of that box set that ChinaRider linked above.
This LP came in the mail for me the other day in an exchange that I made with another collector. Although I intended to spin it over the weekend, I also wanted to wait until the twilight or even late evening before it went on the platter. Since I spent all day Saturday streaming new releases of downtown NYC jazz releases (I hope that Lance is aware of some of these players... David S Ware, William Parker, Hamid Drake, Craig Taborn) as well as some Chicago stuff I hadn't heard or needed to brush up on (Matthew Lux, Joshua Abrams), and then caught Pharoah Sanders that night... that wasn't in the cards.
Yesterday I went to an evangelical ministry service. First time I've ever done that: a friend married into a born again family, and although I love them and love seeing them, I think I'll have to skip the service and hit the reception next time. It could not have been more of an inverse and opposite spiritual experience as compared to seeing Pharoah Sanders just hours before. I really do not understand their trip. Massive throngs headed for the Lake Of Fire, indeed. Quite a contrast to the night before. Could have used the Coltrane after that spiritual nightmare, but I threw it on now.
So this is Coltrane's last album, the final session he approved for release before his death in 1967. The album lists the date of his birth and the date of his departure from the physical realm on its front cover. Within the gatefold are photos by Jim Marshall and others from the latter years of his career, including a striking inlay with the photograph that made the cover of A Love Supreme (as well as carefully chosen liner notes written by the great Nat Hentoff). The packaging is gorgeous.
As far as the playing, it's probably the most challenging I've heard from any of his work. This is with the latter-day band, in which McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones left to be replaced by Alice and Rashied Ali. The addition of Pharoah Sanders leads to a blistering dual-saxophone attack. The track "Offering" features some of the most relentless, muscular playing I have ever heard on a Coltrane recording. It is pure, ethereal space. This is not your soothing, nighttime jazz; this is not The Gentle Side of John Coltrane. This is pure soul, some of the most consciously spiritual music he composed, and its influence – compositionally and aesthetically – really continues to show itself, not only in the work of some of those players I mentioned above from the NYC and Chicago scenes, but in players whose fields have little or no intersectionality with the jazz idiom. Players like Steve Gunn instantly come to mind, but certainly groups like Bardo Pond, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Yo La Tengo and Sonic Youth owe the improvisational spirit, if not the book and verse of its compositional structure, to the work of Coltrane.
In the end this is crucial stuff; an essential recording, whose compositional challenges to the listener and, in turn, their resolutions are not the most accessibile, or perhaps on the most banal surface level even the most satisfying. As a bookend to close one chapter in the legacy of a master of composition, a genius of creation, this is beyond satisfaction, yearning, or desire. Worth listening to, as well as worth being "ready" for.
Today is the 100th anniversary of the birth of Thelonious Monk.
I had an original version of this album, but it was pretty beat up and I let it go to a young collector just starting into LPs. One of my favorite records to spin, so I got ahold of an 80s reissue.
Thelonious Himself
Thelonious Monk – piano
John Coltrane and Wilbur Ware accompany Monk on the last track of the album "Monk's Mood":
Danilo Perez from the Wayne Shorter Quartet is playing some trio shows around here honoring Monk. I'm seeing him on Thursday in Santa Cruz, and then I'm seeing the great Jason Moran in SF on Saturday doing some type of "multi-media" show honoring Monk.
I could do without the "multi-media" bit, but Moran is great, as is Perez, and I love Thelonious Monk.
Three Pharoah Sanders albums are getting the deluxe reissue treatment. On November 10, Anthology Recordings (the reissue arm of Mexican Summer) will offer new pressings of 1967’s Tauhid, 1969’s Jewels of Thought, and 1970’s Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Kukmun Umyun). The albums are available individually or as a 3xLP set. The set also features a 16-page zine housed in an O-Card that was hand-assembled and screen-printed by Keegan Cooke. The label has also shared a website that features commentary on Sanders by the Dublab team. Caribou, Julia Holter, Sun Araw, Laraaji, Sudan Archives, and others wrote about Sanders’ influence, as well. There’s also a site full of quotes about Jewels of Thought. Hear selections from the collection below. (Pitchfork)
Notes on behalf of Mexican Summer / Anthology Records:
Pharoah Sanders is Spiritual Jazz, is Devotional Music, is the greatest living link between John Coltrane, Kamasi Washington, and the next generation of this great lineage. His Tenor Sound, his Singing Voice, his compositions, and his recordings have already stood the test of time, in his time, endured, ever-aged so finely, and have now (in my opinion) surpassed critique. Pharoah Sanders is a giant, an innovator, colorful, prayerful, and worthy of all our attention, celebration, and enthusiastic, even ecstatic accolades!
Pharoah, (born Farrell Sanders of Little Rock, Arkansas on October 13, 1940,) was not only in John Coltrane’s Band from 1965 – 1967, and featured as a Tenor Saxophonist on his Impulse! albums Ascension, Live At The Village Vanguard Again!, Kulu Sé Mama, Meditations, and Om, but had his own distinct concept and direction that you can hear on those recordings. Where John Coltrane is the Father of this Music, Pharoah is John’s Brother, his bright, younger contemporary who was ready to express prolifically. His was a sound of entrancement, deep emotion, lyrical chanting, layered mosaic rhythmic grooves, poly-melodic heart cries, ensemble percussion, Love, surrender, upliftment, communication with his ancestors, contemporaries and those yet to arrive, and hope for awakening and peace within Humanity.
Of Pharoahs 11 albums on Impulse! as a leader, the ones in front of you are Tauhid (#1 from 1967), Jewels Of Thought (#3 from 1969) and Summun Bukmun Umyun – Deaf Dumb Blind (#4 from 1970). It was John Coltrane’s influence on Music and the Recording Industry that opened the door for Pharoah Sanders, and through that door Pharoah would fly, soar and inspire! During this time he was also featured on Alice Coltrane’s Impulse! releases Ptah, The El Daoud playing Tenor Saxophone, Alto Flute and Bells and on her most beloved recording Journey In Satchidananda playing Soprano Saxophone and Percussion.
The significance of Pharoah Sanders today is for you to discover. He is among my greatest inspirations of all time and always will be! He is a man of few words, and when you see him play now, it’s more about being in his presence than expecting him to play lots of flashy runs. From his first note you know it’s him and that you’re in for profound integrity and deeply soulful energy. He always dresses in bold, bright hues, sometimes patterns, sometimes wearing shades, always a fez or hat of some sort. He stood out in GQ Style’s 2016 feature “These 10 Living Legends of Jazz Prove Nobody Can Out-Dress the OGs” – the relevance is there. So strong! The last time I saw Pharoah in Los Angeles at Catalina’s I was happy to connect with my friend Knxwledge. He was there with Rapper Earl Sweatshirt and Producer Alchemist. I sat with a table of 18 year old prodigies including pianist Jamael Dean . . .
Recommendation: Put all of these records on repeat for days and days, let them transmute your life, then tell your friends, family and everyone you come into contact with about Pharoah Sanders!
Sincerely,
Carlos Niño (Spaceways Radio, Leaving Records, Dublab)
Sunday, September 10, 2017
Joe Farrell – Tenor and soprano saxophone, flute, alto flute, piccolo
Chick Corea – Electric piano
Elvin Jones – Drums
Buster Williams – Bass
Airto Moreira – Percussion
Is it true tyner and jones both quit the band after the 'ascension' recording session, with jones intentionally breaking his snare drum in a dramatic fashion after the second 45 min take in order to ensure the prevention a third?
Fucking amazing if true. I thought they stayed on until a little later in his career, maybe late '65 or even '66, but I don't know the history that well.
i've heard Alice got him into acid and eastern philosophy, was she able to clean up his diet at all near the end or was he at his heaviest during his final days?
guess some of that bloat coulda been from liver issues.
that same documentary I saw that talked about Elvin jones freaking out during the Ascension session also mentioned there was a time while touring that trane's favorite meal was dozens of dinner rolls with a big ol' plate of hog brains, eggs and grits.
guess u can take the genius outta the south but u can't yadda, yadda....
I've been enjoying Alice's Ptah, the El Daoud quite a bunch over the tail end of this past week. Really really high levels of interplay between the players on that one and a sweet medium between mellow post bop and music edging unto the borders of the ecstatic.
Furious E can you give any indication of where to find that doc? Haven't been able to locate those interview excerpts and some of those stories are whacky. Can you share the title or the year of publication?
McCloys playing became pretty stagnant towards the end of the famous quartet era. In his defense, Coltrane was kinda just playing for himself at that point. Tyner got stuck just kinda banging around on the piano during a lot of those long extended Coltrane solos. Then he would stop playing and Coltrane and Jones would do a 20 min kinda drum/sax solo. Seemed like he just got sick of Johns "reaching out" by the end of it. I read in an interview where he refers to Coltranes playing as becoming "atonal". Kinda hard to disagree with that.
I've been revisiting McCoy Tyner's Extensions these past few days. Thanks to Furious E for linking that one in. Great, great title.
McCoy Tyner – piano
Gary Bartz – alto saxophone
Wayne Shorter – tenor saxophone, soprano saxophone
Ron Carter – bass
Elvin Jones – drums
Alice Coltrane – harp
>> I want to be the force which is truly for good.
- John Coltrane <<
Nice to revisit this thread.
If you are into the 'Kulu Se Mama,' 'Africa Brass,' big band kinda out there, stuff I highly recommend checking out this title off of AUM Fidelity, DOUBLE SUNRISE OVER NEPTUNE (AUM047, 2007) with some of the best contemporary improvisers of our time, somethin really fascinating and just a sick project led by the brilliant William Parker on bass... dig:
The olatunji 'my favorite things' from the fabled last trane live recording is one of my favorite works of art although I rarely have the fortitude to listen to the entire thing.
after a very lengthy bass solo intro, the sonic assault by trane and Pharaoh is almost too frantic and raw to handle.
To me it's like the musical equivalent of an animal being torn apart by a predator.
Like trane is that animal and life itself the predator
from an artistic standpoint, he certainly did not go gently into that good night and raged against the dying of the light to his last breath.
may we all find a way to b a little more like John Coltrane in our day to day lives.
Over the years, Coltrane discussed at length the impact that John Gilmore's playing had on the development of his own sound. By the the time that 'Trane had exited from the final assembly of Miles Davis' First "Great Quintet" at the conclusion of Kind of Blue, Gilmore had already been a seasoned veteran of Sun Ra's earlier, experimental "big" lineups, as well as the proto-Arkestra bands and small combos; he was definitely among Ra's 'inner circle' of working musicians crafting music in the sanctum of the mobile, spiritual spaceshape that was the Sun Ra commune (and, indeed, that band did effectively establish a "commune" during their time living and working in NYC, years before the development of the 'downtown' 'loft' scene, and prior to the final landing of the spaceship in Ra's adopted hometown of Philadelphia PA), and by the time that Coltrane was stretching the boundaries of his sound – and the capacity for his audiences to biggen their ears and embolden their palate – Gilmore was also working recording dates in aggressive, progressive bands like the lineup that recorded the criminally underrated The Artistry of Freddie Hubbard:
Freddie Hubbard - trumpet
Curtis Fuller - trombone
John Gilmore - tenor saxophone
Tommy Flanagan - piano
Art Davis - bass
Louis Hayes - drums
Definitely an album worth seeking out. Not the backbeat-driven funk of Hubbard's early and mid 70s work, but somewhere in between his tenure among the youngbucks working the 'Big Beat' of Art Blakey's message and the forward-leaning, aggressive bop of Freddie's late 60s Atlantic work. A great collection.
Interesting to examine the variety of work that Coltrane's bandmates did with other artists. I have been diving into early and mid 60s Freddie Hubbard through the great Blue Note Re-Issue Series comp from the mid 70s, and Elvin Jones and McCoy Tyner (as well as Wayne Shorter) contributed some serious power to Hub's compositions.
Meanwhile, this is album that I flipped some time ago and, every now and again, feel the pang of regret about getting rid of:
I will do all I can to be worthy of Thee O Lord. It all has to do with it. Thank you God. Peace. There is none other. God is, It is so beautiful. Thank you God. God is all. Help us to resolve our fears and weaknesses. Thank you God. In You all things are possible. We know. God made us so. Keep your eye on God. God is. He always was. He always will be. No matter what…it is God. He is gracious and merciful. It is most important that I know Thee. Words, sounds, speech, men, memory, thoughts, fears and emotions – time – all related…all made from one…all made in one. Blessed be His name. Thought waves – heat waves – all vibrations – all paths lead to God. Thank you God. His way…it is so lovely…it is gracious. It is merciful – thank you God. His way…it is so lovely…it is gracious. It is merciful – thank you God. One thought can produce millions of vibrations and they all go back to God…everything does. Thank you God. Have no fear…believe…thank you God.
The universe has many wonders. God is all. His way…it is so wonderful. Thoughts – deeds – vibrations, etc. They all go back to God and He cleanses all. He is gracious and merciful…thank you God. Glory to God…God is so alive. God is. God loves. May I be acceptable in Thy sight. We are all one in His grace. The fact that we do exist is acknowledgement of Thee of Lord. Thank you God. God will wash away all our tears…He always has…He always will. Seek Him everyday. In all ways seek God everyday. Let us sing all songs to God To whom all praise is due…praise God. No road is an easy one, but they all go back to God. With all we share God. It is all with God. It is all with Thee. Obey the Lord. Blessed is He. We are from one thing…the will of God…thank you God.
I have seen God – I have seen ungodly – none can be greater – none can compare to God. Thank you God. He will remake us…He always has and He always will. It is true – blessed be His name – thank you God. God breathes through us so completely…so gently we hardly feel it…yet, it is our everything. Thank you God. ELATION – ELEGANCE – EXALTATION – All from God. Thank you God. Amen. [John Coltrane – December, 1964]
Perhaps a bit tangential, but this is some really good stuff: a release from last year with a certain deference to Coltrane's melding of avant-jazz idioms and South Asian classical forms, replete with beautiful arrangements for tabla and harp. It's called Journey to the Mountain of Forever, from an assembly of jazz musicians headed by saxophonist Binker Golding and drummer Moses Boyd.
Chill material with some real backbone.
Binker & Moses - "At the Feet of the Mountain of Forever"
Bump. Oscillating between Coltrane's Impressions and Eric Dolphy's Last Date these past couple days, like starting a bridge across the English channel and ending up in the Far East. Amazing.
ive acquired a choice pressing of the africa brass sessions, volume two, and haven’t stopped listening to it since it arrived. the versions of song of the underground railroad and greensleeves are sublime.
Thanks for your reply, E. I would agree that your generation communicates more adeptly with each other on the internet, yet I am not convinced that they communicate more adeptly with my generation. Seems they have a hard time tolerating the communication skills of my generation - and in order to communicate even more adeptly - they should be more tolerant and not get upset and resort to insults - because their insults appear to be met with insults back. Insults back and forth are NOT adept communication no matter which generation is employing them. What's your feeling on this?
The Cats is an album credited to jazz musicians Tommy Flanagan, John Coltrane, Kenny Burrell, and Idrees Sulieman, released in 1959 on New Jazz Records, catalogue 8217. It was issued after Coltrane had already ceased recording for the label.
Track listing
1 "Minor Mishap"
2 "How Long Has This Been Going On"
3 "Eclypso"
4 "Solacium"
5 "Tommy's Tune"
I attended a talk where Coltrane's biographer Lewis Porter, as well as two other composers and music theorists, offered some insight on how to dissect that graph.
I'm still way too uneducated about theory or composition to grasp it, but the link was helpful. Therefore I still assert that it's actually a sort of cheat sheet for channeling spirits.
No - I'm asking E a question - but you two are not being helpful in solving this crucial issue. Please hush up and find something else to do and let's let E have a chance to continue..
>>>>>>Seems they have a hard time tolerating the communication skills of my generation - and in order to communicate even more adeptly - they should be more tolerant and not get upset and resort to insults - because their insults appear to be met with insults back. Insults back and forth are NOT adept communication no matter which generation is employing them. What's your feeling on this?
Poor 6. It’s pretty obvious this is a big deal for him. I mean after saying he lost all respect for the admins and posters on Viva and then coming back and bouncing between troll and bliss ninnie. I hope you figure out what you need and get it.
I concur with aetix that this heartfelt Coltrane sharing thread might not b the best venue for
6's apparent interested in attempting to bridge a perceived generational divide.
As misplaced and lofty as those goals may b, he appears to b sincere at the moment so, with apologies to ateix and everyone else here just appropriately seeking some kickin Jazz, I'll attempt to answer him in a sincere fashion.
i'm of the opinion that even though the nature of a msg board seems to b group communication, in actuality, every act of communication, and miscommunication, really takes place between 2 individuals.
every post we make can b construed in a myriad of ways, each slightly different for each viewer of said post.
Therefore the responsibility falls on each of us, as individuals, to try and not take posts, or ourselves, too seriously.
if we can allow ourselves to b absolved by what trane referred to as a love supreme, I feel the amount of offense both taken or intended shall b minimized.
i am of the school of thought that focusing too much on the generational aspect of any perceived interpersonal rivalries will only serve to divide us further and may, in fact, rob us of the opportunity to truly connect as individuals.
Been getting into the McCoy Tyner over the last day or two.
Today spent some time listening to Reflections. I also have been sampling this other one called Sama Layuca with Bobby Hutcherson, Gary Bartz, Mtume, and a bunch of other badass musician.
Again the sound quality is poor, so poor you really can't hear Jimmy Garrison way too often. That said the playing is insane.
I think I saw this on wax the other day, I'd hope they had some better quality source to master from, because the sound quality is kinda shit on this transfer Lol
This morning I put on the great 'Expansions', with Gary Bartz, Freddie Waits and Wayne Shorter all absolutely shredding on this crucial McCoy Tyner disc. Brilliant group and individual improv. Really taps into some dirty funky but also spiritual ascension.
This is a good one I nabbed at the thrift store. $0.80 and features some really cool banjo, bass, and horn playing:
'Bob Thiele And His New Happy Times Orchestra – The 20s Score Again'
Gatsby's 3:03
Sheik Of Araby 2:10
China Boy 3:30
Someday Sweetheart 4:05
Singin' The Blues 2:56
Indiana (Back Home Again In Indiana) 2:50
What'll I Do 3:11
Muskrat Ramble 3:03
(Princeton Medley) 2:05
Old Nassau
The Princeton Cannon Song
Wolverine Blues 2:31
Farewell Blues 3:21
Also been loving this cd recently, feat the great Joe Henderson on tenor sax, The Real McCoy.
Bass – Ron Carter
Drums – Elvin Jones
Piano – McCoy Tyner
Producer – Alfred Lion
Recorded By – Rudy Van Gelder
Tenor Saxophone – Joe Henderson
I shouldnt include it in this post but I have to mention this is a really fucking killer lineup that I stumbled across at my local record shop yesterday:
Flute, Tenor Saxophone – Frank Wess
Guitar – Jimmy Ponder (tracks: A1, A2), Melvin Sparks (tracks: B1 to B3)
Organ – Charlie Earland
Percussion – Lawrence Killian
Trumpet – Bill Hardman
I shouldn't neglect this title, I got a nice early 80s reissue for cheap cheap and it sounds phenomenal, such beautiful playing by Ron Carter and Charles Persip as well:
Mal Waldron With Eric Dolphy And Booker Ervin – The Quest
Alto Saxophone, Clarinet – Eric Dolphy
Bass – Joe Benjamin
Cello – Ron Carter
Drums – Charles Persip
Piano – Mal Waldron
Tenor Saxophone – Booker Ervin
'Recorded June 27, 1961.
Originally released on New Jazz label as NJ 8269'
Finally, this Chico Freeman disc with awesome drumming from Elvin Jones:
The Pied Piper (BlackHawk Records – BKH 50801)
Alto Saxophone, Baritone Saxophone, Oboe, Flute [Alto], Piccolo Flute – John Purcell
Bass – Cecil McBee
Drums – Elvin Jones
Piano – Kenny Kirkland (tracks: A2, A3, B2, B3), Mark Thompson (9) (tracks: A1, B1)
Producer – Chico Freeman, Herb Wong
Tenor Saxophone, Alto Saxophone, Sopranino Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone, Bass Clarinet, Bass Flute, C Flute – Chico Freeman
Yeah it's good but watch the one about Lee Morgan I Called Him 'Morgan.' It starts slow, first quarter of the movie or so, it's short, stick with it. Some amazing interviews and amazing photographs in there. And truly brilliant music, too, made me wish I didn't have a shit stereo system for the teevee setup.
Bass, Percussion – Cecil McBee, Richard Davis
Drums – Roy Haynes
Drums, Percussion – Idris Muhammad
Piano, Kalimba, Reeds, Percussion – Lonnie Liston Smith
Reeds, Kalimba, Percussion – Pharoah Sanders
Vocals, Percussion – Leon Thomas
1967 was a banner year for A-list talent at the club, as Kenny Burrell, Jimmy Heath, Roland Kirk, George Benson, Yusef Lateef, Freddie Hubbard, Milt Jackson, and John Coltrane appeared on successive Sundays.
I've been getting really into the Heath Brothers lately, especially Jimmy Heath. This album is a smoker:
The Gap Sealer
Bass – Bob Cranshaw
Drums – Al "Tootie" Heath
Percussion – Mtume
Piano – Kenny Barron
Soprano Saxophone, Tenor Saxophone – Jimmy Heath
I'm thinking about going to see Azar play here in a couple weeks. He's got Henry Franklin on bass, which is nuts. We'll see how it goes.
Azar is slaying in the clip above, but Tyner is broadcasts just an insane amount of information.
This audio/video quality is a touch better than the Montreaux '73 set (Enlightenment suite), too.
Cited in this NY Times article on postmodern great Milford Graves (one of the greats still "sucking wind," Lance; you should check out his newest project Full Mantis):
The newly discovered, unreleased album from 1963 featuring the “classic quartet” finds the jazz giant thrillingly caught between shoring up and surging forth.
That is some next level, fourth dimensional type trolling, RRG.
I applaud your efforts.
There's some stuff in this thread I wrote that I don't even remember happening. Azar Lawrence with Henry Franklin on bass? I fuckin' missed out BIG TIME buddy.
Nice bump ateix, scrolling all the way through this long-running thread has been enjoyable.
And Bobby Hutcherson was a gift to us all. I was lucky that he lived in the Bay Area and in his last years he played around here often. He suffered from the slow killer emphysema and I think he wanted to play as much as he could while he still could.
Toward the end he was so weak & frail that he could barely make it onto the stage, bringing his oxygen tank with him, but then those mallets would begin to dance and the entire room would levitate. He really was a master.
During that time the McCoy Tyner Trio was playing a run of shows in Oakland. I saw a couple of those sets and the second night there was a vibraphone on stage. McCoy came on and said that Bobby had called that afternoon and felt like playing so he sat in for the entire set. It was brilliant on many levels.
I have nothing new to add to this great thread, but that link to Hutcherson reminded me of that great night in Oakland.
Thanks for the memory ateix, and keep the links coming.
Thanks for sharing the memory, Lance. That's a great add, in my opinion.
And your keeping the candle burning for Wayne Shorter has been a nice reminder to revisit his work with his great quartet. Without A Net and Beyond the Sound Barrier have been in heavy rotation the past few days.
Gato Barbieri, "A John Coltrane Blues" Yesterdays (1974) (link)
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:28 am
We're still chasin' Trane.
Still chasin' Trane. Happy birthday.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:36 am
Alice Coltrane, "Something
Alice Coltrane, "Something About John Coltrane" Journey In Satchidananda (1970)
Alice Coltrane — harp, piano
Pharoah Sanders — soprano saxophone, percussion
Cecil McBee — bass
Tulsi — tambura
Rashied Ali — drums
Majid Shabazz — bells, tambourine
https://youtu.be/f5EoZsaiS9U
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:36 am
fuck yes. happy birthday to a
fuck yes. happy birthday to a great national treasure .
had this playing earlier, john in belgium with the quartet in 1965.
https://youtu.be/59pbGmckFE8
heres some kooky footage, color footage, with a few decent moments, from the newport jazz fest in 1966.
https://youtu.be/as1rTILOZDQ
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:39 am
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:40 am
>> had this playing earlier,
>> had this playing earlier, john in belgium with the quartet in 1965.
One of the greatest documents of live playing of all time, imo
>> newport jazz fest in 1966.
Another amazing document. I think that might be the performance that produced New Thing with Archie Shepp, but I'm not sure.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:41 am
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:42 am
Only know live performance of
Only know live performance of "A Love Supreme":
Live at Festival de Jazz de Antibes 1965-07-26
https://youtu.be/RlrQZc3h13E
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:44 am
Good thread and good to see
Good thread and good to see you back, Atex.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:44 am
Photo, left to right: John
Photo, left to right: John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Miles Davis, Bill Evans
Yes, happy birthday to one of my favorites. This pic was taken during the recording of 'Kind of Blue' where he played tenor sax. I think I'll go spin that album now while I get a few things done around the house.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 11:48 am
damn !! sick photo, jen, and
damn !! sick photo, jen, and thanks for the caption.
1965-07-25 currently playing ...
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 12:08 pm
Rather than go full-bore post
Rather than go full-bore post-bop spatial madness, I started with something a little less challenging.
Spinning:
Thelonious Monk With John Coltrane
https://youtu.be/dD51O1j4NAg
Thelonious Monk — piano
John Coltrane — tenor saxophone
Ray Copeland — trumpet on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Gigi Gryce — alto saxophone on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Coleman Hawkins — tenor saxophone on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
Wilbur Ware — bass
Shadow Wilson — drums on "Ruby, My Dear", "Trinkle, Tinkle" and "Nutty"
Art Blakey — drums on "Off Minor" and "Epistrophy"
The natural extention of that is this amazing live document (the commercial release is outstanding):
Thelonious Monk Quartet (with John Coltrane) - At Carnegie Hall
https://youtu.be/v74rRYBbSJc
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 12:18 pm
So I'm thinking tonight is
So I'm thinking tonight is gonna b a pretty appropriate time to see pharaoh sanders then, yes?
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 12:20 pm
Trane was a big inspiration
Trane was a big inspiration for Garcia.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 12:24 pm
Great musical improviser or
Great musical improviser or the greatest musical improviser?
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 01:10 pm
Next: Olé Coltrane
Next: Olé Coltrane
John Coltrane — soprano saxophone on "Olé" and "To Her Ladyship"; tenor saxophone on "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha"
Freddie Hubbard — trumpet
Eric Dolphy — flute on "Olé" and "To Her Ladyship"; alto saxophone on "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha" (credited as "George Lane" due to contractual obligations)
McCoy Tyner — piano
Reggie Workman — bass on "Olé," "Dahomey Dance" and "Aisha"
Art Davis — bass on "Olé," "Dahomey Dance" and "To Her Ladyship"
Elvin Jones — drums
https://youtu.be/wr5BotYA3U8
Probably my favorite Coltrane record.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 01:32 pm
^Haven't heard that one.
^Haven't heard that one. Looks like a solid line up. Two trumpets is an interesting concept. Love me some Hubbard. I liked Coltrane final couple of albums even though the critics dogged them. He was an unbelievable talent. A legendary musician at the highest level. Always a pleasure to listen.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 01:41 pm
HBD ~ JC
HBD ~ JC
With Love,
Lu <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jliHBepyk
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 01:44 pm
Coltrane is the best love
Coltrane is the best love making music on the planet IMHO Thanks for that JC!
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 02:58 pm
Alice Coltrane, "Sri Rama
Alice Coltrane, "Sri Rama Ohnedaruth" Lord Of Lords (1973)
Alice Coltrane – Harp, Organ, Percussion, Piano, Timpani
Charlie Haden – Bass
Ben Riley – Drums, Percussion
with a large string
orchestra arranged and
conducted by Alice Coltrane
https://youtu.be/BmDQRx3TRqw
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 03:00 pm
im spinning giant steps on
im spinning giant steps on vinyl- just seems right. Although the remix CD has interesting alternate versions.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 04:36 pm
I'd say Coltrane heavily
I'd say Coltrane heavily influenced the entire Grateful Dead
Ole Coltrane is my fav Atlantic release
I think New Thing at Newport is from 64-65, by 66 Coltrane was way out there
Temple University release from a few years ago is some great stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mZgW45FTk
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 04:56 pm
JUST Awesome ! Coltrane ....
JUST Awesome ! Coltrane ....
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 05:24 pm
The live in Newport in def my
The live in Newport in def my fav life release of his. Even with Roy Haynes instead of Elvin. The my favorite things is beyond epic.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 06:05 pm
I'm seeing his son Ravi in
I'm seeing his son Ravi tonight in SF playing A Love Supreme with a brilliant group including Nicholas Peyton.
I'm not a huge fan of Ravi, but this should be real good.
I don't listen to a lot of John Coltrane, his music can be a bit dense and his playing is a little busy & frantic for my taste, but there is a time & place where I enjoy listening to him; I like the recordings from the Village Vanguard.
But my respect & awe at what he did and how that opened doors and influenced the type of music I love best is unmatched.
He's right at the top of any all-time great list.
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 06:10 pm
great pic above...
great pic above...
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 09:55 pm
Ole is so classic!
Ole is so classic!
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on Saturday, September 23, 2017 – 10:30 pm
Sax has never been a favorite
Sax has never been a favorite of mine. He's good in a silent setting.
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on Sunday, September 24, 2017 – 12:32 am
E, were you at SFJazz for the
E, were you at SFJazz for the Love Supreme show? Ravi was quite good on Thursday.
Lance, Ravi’s quartet was great, but the sound was dominated by the drummer. A good night, nonetheless.
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on Sunday, September 24, 2017 – 08:28 pm
Picked this one up yesterday,
Picked this one up yesterday, Impressions:
John Coltrane – soprano and tenor saxophone
McCoy Tyner – piano (exc. track 2) Jimmy Garrison – double bass
Elvin Jones – drums (exc. tracks 4)
Roy Haynes – drums (tracks 4)
Eric Dolphy – bass clarinet, alto sax (tracks 1 and 3)
Reggie Workman – double bass (tracks 1 and 3)
https://youtu.be/46DTEse9_bo
Pretty outstanding. The last track, "After the Rain," is particularly beautiful.
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on Sunday, September 24, 2017 – 10:04 pm
Coltrane sure did always work
Coltrane sure did always work with the best people.
And I thought the 7:00 show last night was pretty good with a few amazing passages, but overall it seemed a little disjointed. A long bass solo towards the end didn't help. I thought the best thing they played was a piece from Crescent (the one Coltrane album I listen to) in the first set.
>>>but the sound was dominated by the drummer<<<
I wonder if you were sitting on the stage left side. Given that with almost all jazz bands the drummer is set up on the left side of the stage the drums in any room can often be too loud if sitting on that side, and especially at the Miner in SF.
The foolish design of that place leaves the entire right side of the stage obstructed for the seats along the side in the balcony, so they always set things up with the band off-center to the left, which usually puts the drummer even more to the left and directly in front of the people sitting there.
I always try to sit on the stage right side of rooms when seeing jazz, as the piano is usually on that side and is louder there. The drums always make it through the sound, whether it's mostly amplified like at the Miner or just clean sound in a small room. I was on that side last night and the drums were mixed perfectly for me.
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on Sunday, September 24, 2017 – 10:17 pm
>>> The last track, "After
>>> The last track, "After the Rain," is particularly beautiful. <<<
It really was.
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on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 – 12:28 am
This is Pharoah Sanders' spin
This is Pharoah Sanders' spin on it, taken as a duet with pianist Joe Bonner:
"After the Rain"
https://youtu.be/rPkpubkbppE
Pharoah Sanders is about to begin a five night residency at Birdland in NYC, one of only a handful of concerts he has scheduled for the rest of the year:
http://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/ready-or-not-here-comes-pharoah-sander...
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on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 – 12:37 am
Following the death of her
Following the death of her husband, Alice Coltrane continued to expand upon the spiritual direction that his compositions had pointed towards. She frequently collaborated with other, similarly minded artists working not only within the realms of free jazz, but also within those spaces where the "new sound" (of the avant garde of jazz), Eastern philosophy and modal musical patterns (specifically Indian classical and North African folk musics), and even chamber musics could intersect.
While the work of Pharoah Sanders on albums like Journey In Satchidananda and A Monastic Trio remains groundbreaking, wildly inventive, and constantly teetering between exhiliarating and openly provocative, the introduction of Joe Henderson into the cosmic worlds of the Coltrane legacy (beginning with Ptah, the El Daoud) are perhaps even more resounding to me (specifically within that context, as I love Pharoah's work and it would be impossible for me to judge in some kind of ridiculous objective manner).
Joe Henderson's The Elements represents a bedrock of that spiritual "out" sound, and the lineup on it (and the playing on it)is nothing short of brilliant:
Joe Henderson - tenor sax, flute, alto flute
Alice Coltrane - piano, harp, Tambura, harmonium
Charlie Haden - bass
Leon "Ndugu" Chancler - drums (1, 4)
Kenneth Nash - narrator (4), flute (3), congas, North African Sakara Drum, bells, gong, percussion
Baba Duru Oshun - percussion, Tabla
Michael White - violin
Joe Henderson, "Earth" The Elements (1974)
https://youtu.be/UpZJ_LQ4CFg
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on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 – 10:12 am
All those Alice records are
All those Alice records are dope but my favorite is Huntington Ashram Monastery. Trio with Carter and Ali, with Alice playing harp on one side, piano on the other. Sometimes less is more
Also later records like Divine Songs are incredible, very different but waaay out of the shadow of her husband
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on Thursday, September 28, 2017 – 02:33 pm
I'm going to give that
I'm going to give that 'Huntington Ashram Monastery another deep dive, good deal.
As to Alice getting far out of John's shadow, I can't recommend the Luaka Bop compilation 'The Ecstatic Music of Alice Coltrane' enough, if you haven't heard it. It's just straight up spiritual / devotional music she composed or played while living at the ashram, all the tracks sourced from private press tapes. The liner notes, photographs and just the whole production of the thing is beautiful.
Right now I'm in the middle of negotiating a trade for Coltrane's 'Expression,' which I believe contains his last recording.
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on Thursday, September 28, 2017 – 07:10 pm
One of my favorite albums to
One of my favorite albums to feature Alice is McCoy tyner's "extensions".
it also has such heavy hitters as Ron carter, Wayne shorter, Bill Evans and more.
heavily trane influenced, I've been meaning to pick it up on vinyl for a while now.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2k_uMEkCrWHZ95DhdedtenvMMdmCtwzl
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on Thursday, September 28, 2017 – 10:59 pm
Great lineup on that title,
Great lineup on that title, Furious E. I'm going to have to scope it out. Just closed a deal on that copy of Expression, I'm really excited to hear that once it's come in.
Since I brought up the "deep dive" earlier, two great reads taking a "Deep Dive" into the Coltrane discography...
I heard this dude give a lecture about Coltrane possibly adapting the second theme of a piece by Morton Gould for his song "Impressions." Reading his article, the song's genesis becomes even more interesting (and since I just grabbed a nice copy of the album Impressions, I was fascinated). The audio links are sick, too:
Deep Dive with Lewis Porter: The Inspiration(s) Behind John Coltrane's "Impressions"
http://wbgo.org/post/deep-dive-lewis-porter-inspirations-behind-john-col...
This was a cool read as well, there's a nice mix of selections from better known albums (Live At Birdland, My Favorite Things) among some really lesser known live recordings, and less popular titles, like Africa/Brass. The writing is solid:
Coltrane’s Hidden Gems: A Seeker’s Guide
https://www.estheticlens.com/2017/09/27/coltranes-hidden-gems-a-seekers-...
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on Friday, September 29, 2017 – 02:53 pm
What's up with this wacky
What's up with this wacky diagram?
http://www.openculture.com/2017/04/the-tone-circle-john-coltrane-drew-to...
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on Friday, September 29, 2017 – 03:10 pm
Furious, I have always
Furious, I have always thought it was the circle of fifths, broken into melodic subsections, with notations and times signatures.
But, really, I don't know shit. Trane was a genius.
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on Saturday, September 30, 2017 – 10:01 am
nice thread.
nice thread.
lots of great stuff in here.
love that sketch of the fifths by coltrane that E linked.
bump.
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on Saturday, September 30, 2017 – 04:25 pm
That title by McCoy Tyner,
That title by McCoy Tyner, Extensions, is really really rich. Wayne Shorter's playing on it is absolutely great. The drumming, too; Elvin Jones' style is absolutely unmistakeable. Quite a lineup.
Right now I'm giving this one a thorough listen, it almost sounds like they are dipping into the main theme of "A Love Supreme" during the take on "The Creator Has A Master Plan."
Pharoah Sanders live at the Festival de Jazz de Nice 1971-07-18
Pharoah Sanders - tenor sax
Lonnie Liston Smith - piano
Cecil McBee - bass
Jimmy Hopps - drums
Lawrence Killian - congas
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=3136
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on Sunday, October 1, 2017 – 01:37 am
Nice, Karma era is some of my
Nice, Karma era is some of my favorite Pharaoh
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on Sunday, October 1, 2017 – 02:20 am
Oh man that is one crazy good
Oh man that is one crazy good performance. Such a clean recording, too, such fiery stuff. Can't recommend it enough.
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on Sunday, October 1, 2017 – 10:35 am
"Maybe because I had begun
"Maybe because I had begun absorbing the Grateful Dead’s exploratory “Dark Star,” I found some of Concert in Japan accessible enough so that it did not immediately send me running for the hills"
From https://www.estheticlens.com/2017/09/27/coltranes-hidden-gems-a-seekers-...
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on Sunday, October 1, 2017 – 10:39 am
I have "The Complete 1961
I have "The Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings" box set and "Giant Steps". It's enough for me to scratch that occasional Coltrane itch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Complete_1961_Village_Vanguard_Recordings
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 11:41 am
>> "Giant Steps"
>> "Giant Steps"
But of course.
>> "The Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings" box set
The playing on that box set is outstanding but I've been diving into live recordings from 1963, a watershed year in that group's almost telepathic levels of interplay. These are two shows from Europe '63 that I've been playing:
John Coltrane Quartet live at Tivoli Koncertsal, Copenhagen DEN 1963-10-25 (recording info)
John Coltrane Quartet live at Liederhalle, Stuttgar (Part I) 1963-11-04 (recording info)
John Coltrane Quartet live at Liederhalle, Stuttgar (Part II) 1963-11-04 (recording info)
This morning, been spinning McCoy Tyner's Song For My Lady:
McCoy Tyner - piano, percussion
Sonny Fortune - alto saxophone, soprano saxophone, flute
Calvin Hill - bass
Alphonse Mouzon - drums
Michael White - violin (tracks 1 & 5)
Charles Tolliver - flugelhorn (tracks 1 & 5)
Mtume - congas, percussion (tracks 1 & 5)
https://youtu.be/9zHzSJyS7E0
Intending to get into some of the Ecstatic Music of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda compilation later because, today, it 'just seems right.'
https://alicecoltrane.bandcamp.com/album/world-sprituality-classics-1-th...
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 11:47 am
nice thread, who doesn't need
nice thread, who doesn't need more Coltrane in their life?
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 11:48 am
what is up with the weird
what is up with the weird spacing?
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 11:51 am
>>Nice, Karma era is some of
>>Nice, Karma era is some of my favorite Pharaoh
love, have a signed copy from Pharoah Sanders sitting here on my desk from 2004.
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 12:44 pm
(Hi 4winds - that spacing is
(Hi 4winds - that spacing is usually the result of hitting return or going to a new line or two before posting.)
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 01:02 pm
thanks for the info, Judit.
thanks for the info, Judit.
will post pic later when more time allows.
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on Monday, October 2, 2017 – 03:44 pm
Off topic, I have been on a
Off topic, I have been on a Dexter Gordon Kick lately, here's a taste.
Dexter and Johnny Griffin Blues up and down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXvQDsXN3iw
Enjoy
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on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 – 12:32 pm
Wow, that 71' Pharoah show
Wow, that 71' Pharoah show ateix linked is beautiful.
i like that version of 'creator has a master plan' even more than the karma album.
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on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 – 02:14 pm
I really love Leon Thomas on
I really love Leon Thomas on this tune.
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on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 – 10:45 pm
I've been spinning nonstop
I've been spinning nonstop Eugenius. Really ecstatic music.
Speaking of the ecstatic, and ecstatic music in particular, and this is only tangential, but the Village Vanguard's got a disgusting program coming up in November of various bands doing John Zorn's (I guess) newest (?) book of devotional / experimental / avant jazz / klezmer / modern chamber Masada music. All sorts of filthy lineups. No classic Electric Masada (which is to say no Marc Ribot) but some great bands like Cyro Baptista's Banquet of the Spirits, and (this is huge) two sets of the Gnostic Trio. That will be some straight up heaven music.
Listened to this again today:
>> john in belgium with the quartet in 1965.
>> https://youtu.be/59pbGmckFE8
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on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 – 10:48 pm
Wow really all of the
Wow really all of the programming at Vanguard is straight fire all through November.
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on Tuesday, October 3, 2017 – 11:13 pm
Frisell's tour schedule, it's
Frisell's tour schedule, it's not listed on here but the Gnostic Trio sets are Tuesday, November 14 in NYC:
Fall Tours
October 7th
Urbana, IL
Krannert Center for the Arts
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 8th
Columbus, OH
Lincoln Theatre
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 9th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 9th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 10th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 11th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 12th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 13th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 14th
New York, NY
The Village Vanguard
The Bad Plus Bill Frisell '85-'95
October 17th
Durham, NC
Durham Fruit & Produce Company
JD Allen Trio with special guest Bill Frisell
October 19th
Boston, MA
Berklee Performance Center
Michael Gibbs Directs the Only Chome-Waterfall Orchestra featuring Gary Burton, Bill Frisell, Jim Odgren and the Berklee Concert Jazz Orchestra
October 20th
Portland, ME
Blue
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
October 21st
Portland, ME
Blue
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
October 22nd
Concord, MA
Umbrella Community Arts Center
Bill Frisell and Kenny Wollesen
November 2nd
Paris, France
Festival Jazz Sur Le Fil
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 3rd
Warsaw, Poland
Jazz Jamboree Warsaw at Studio Koncertowe Polskiego Radia
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 4th
Leeds, England
The Howard Assembly Room / Opera North
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 5th
Leuven, Belgium
30CC / Schouwburg
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 7th
Schaan, Liechtenstein
TAK Theater Liechtenstein
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 8th
Gent, Belgium
De Bijloke - Kraakhuis
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 9th
Milano, Italy
Teatro dell'Arte
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 10th
Den Bosch, Netherlands
Verkadefabriek
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 11th
Madrid, Spain
International Festival Jazz Madrid - Centro Cultural Conde Duque
Bill Frisell's Music For Strings featuring Jenny Scheinman, Eyvind Kang and Hank Roberts
November 17th
Santa Cruz, CA
Kuumbwa Jazz Center
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
November 18th
Berkeley, CA
The Freight and Salvage
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
November 19th
Santa Monica, CA
Moss Theater
Bill Frisell's Beautiful Dreamers featuring Eyvind Kang and Rudy Royston
The Michael Gibbs program at Berklee looks awesome, gonna look up some of his music since I just grabbed two front row tickets to that.
Also psyched for Frisell / Wolleson duo.
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on Wednesday, October 4, 2017 – 11:18 pm
This group's take on Coltane
This group's take on Coltane's "Spiritual" is an interesting indication of how widespread the influence is:
Elkhorn, "Spiritual" The Black River (2017)
https://youtu.be/T9F-hcrPBrA
Here's an original version, on an Impulse! sampler called From the Original Master Tapes:
https://youtu.be/QaMwTZ2QZP0
This one sounds great. Sounds like Eric Dolphy is playing clarinet on the second solo. Probably the definitive version is from Coltrane "Live" at the Village Vanguard, and you get four full versions out of that box set that ChinaRider linked above.
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on Wednesday, October 4, 2017 – 11:21 pm
From Eugenius' link to
From Eugenius' link to OpenCulture:
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on Monday, October 9, 2017 – 02:51 pm
Expression
Expression
John Coltrane – tenor saxophone, flute
Pharoah Sanders – flute, piccolo, tambourine (#2 only)
Alice Coltrane – piano
Jimmy Garrison – bass
Rashied Ali – drums
https://youtu.be/7JDHvAm-od0
This LP came in the mail for me the other day in an exchange that I made with another collector. Although I intended to spin it over the weekend, I also wanted to wait until the twilight or even late evening before it went on the platter. Since I spent all day Saturday streaming new releases of downtown NYC jazz releases (I hope that Lance is aware of some of these players... David S Ware, William Parker, Hamid Drake, Craig Taborn) as well as some Chicago stuff I hadn't heard or needed to brush up on (Matthew Lux, Joshua Abrams), and then caught Pharoah Sanders that night... that wasn't in the cards.
Yesterday I went to an evangelical ministry service. First time I've ever done that: a friend married into a born again family, and although I love them and love seeing them, I think I'll have to skip the service and hit the reception next time. It could not have been more of an inverse and opposite spiritual experience as compared to seeing Pharoah Sanders just hours before. I really do not understand their trip. Massive throngs headed for the Lake Of Fire, indeed. Quite a contrast to the night before. Could have used the Coltrane after that spiritual nightmare, but I threw it on now.
So this is Coltrane's last album, the final session he approved for release before his death in 1967. The album lists the date of his birth and the date of his departure from the physical realm on its front cover. Within the gatefold are photos by Jim Marshall and others from the latter years of his career, including a striking inlay with the photograph that made the cover of A Love Supreme (as well as carefully chosen liner notes written by the great Nat Hentoff). The packaging is gorgeous.
As far as the playing, it's probably the most challenging I've heard from any of his work. This is with the latter-day band, in which McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones left to be replaced by Alice and Rashied Ali. The addition of Pharoah Sanders leads to a blistering dual-saxophone attack. The track "Offering" features some of the most relentless, muscular playing I have ever heard on a Coltrane recording. It is pure, ethereal space. This is not your soothing, nighttime jazz; this is not The Gentle Side of John Coltrane. This is pure soul, some of the most consciously spiritual music he composed, and its influence – compositionally and aesthetically – really continues to show itself, not only in the work of some of those players I mentioned above from the NYC and Chicago scenes, but in players whose fields have little or no intersectionality with the jazz idiom. Players like Steve Gunn instantly come to mind, but certainly groups like Bardo Pond, Sunburned Hand of the Man, Yo La Tengo and Sonic Youth owe the improvisational spirit, if not the book and verse of its compositional structure, to the work of Coltrane.
In the end this is crucial stuff; an essential recording, whose compositional challenges to the listener and, in turn, their resolutions are not the most accessibile, or perhaps on the most banal surface level even the most satisfying. As a bookend to close one chapter in the legacy of a master of composition, a genius of creation, this is beyond satisfaction, yearning, or desire. Worth listening to, as well as worth being "ready" for.
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on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 – 10:53 pm
Today is the 100th
Today is the 100th anniversary of the birth of Thelonious Monk.
I had an original version of this album, but it was pretty beat up and I let it go to a young collector just starting into LPs. One of my favorite records to spin, so I got ahold of an 80s reissue.
Thelonious Himself
Thelonious Monk – piano
John Coltrane and Wilbur Ware accompany Monk on the last track of the album "Monk's Mood":
https://youtu.be/bRqoaQrpdQA
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on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 – 11:30 pm
Danilo Perez from the Wayne
Danilo Perez from the Wayne Shorter Quartet is playing some trio shows around here honoring Monk. I'm seeing him on Thursday in Santa Cruz, and then I'm seeing the great Jason Moran in SF on Saturday doing some type of "multi-media" show honoring Monk.
I could do without the "multi-media" bit, but Moran is great, as is Perez, and I love Thelonious Monk.
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on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 – 12:16 pm
Great stuff guys. Very
Great stuff guys. Very informative.
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on Thursday, October 12, 2017 – 06:34 am
Danilo is pretty damn good, I
Danilo is pretty damn good, I bet that will b an interesting show.
Anyone check out that 'Les Liaisons Dangereuses' monk soundtrack that they released back in the spring?
ive heard very little but it sounded great and really different from typical monk.
ive been meaning to check it out in greater detail.
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on Thursday, October 12, 2017 – 02:36 pm
This is beyond tempting:
This is beyond tempting:
Pharoah Sanders Deluxe Reissues Announced
Three Pharoah Sanders albums are getting the deluxe reissue treatment. On November 10, Anthology Recordings (the reissue arm of Mexican Summer) will offer new pressings of 1967’s Tauhid, 1969’s Jewels of Thought, and 1970’s Deaf Dumb Blind (Summun Kukmun Umyun). The albums are available individually or as a 3xLP set. The set also features a 16-page zine housed in an O-Card that was hand-assembled and screen-printed by Keegan Cooke. The label has also shared a website that features commentary on Sanders by the Dublab team. Caribou, Julia Holter, Sun Araw, Laraaji, Sudan Archives, and others wrote about Sanders’ influence, as well. There’s also a site full of quotes about Jewels of Thought. Hear selections from the collection below. (Pitchfork)
Notes on behalf of Mexican Summer / Anthology Records:
Pharoah Sanders is Spiritual Jazz, is Devotional Music, is the greatest living link between John Coltrane, Kamasi Washington, and the next generation of this great lineage. His Tenor Sound, his Singing Voice, his compositions, and his recordings have already stood the test of time, in his time, endured, ever-aged so finely, and have now (in my opinion) surpassed critique. Pharoah Sanders is a giant, an innovator, colorful, prayerful, and worthy of all our attention, celebration, and enthusiastic, even ecstatic accolades!
Pharoah, (born Farrell Sanders of Little Rock, Arkansas on October 13, 1940,) was not only in John Coltrane’s Band from 1965 – 1967, and featured as a Tenor Saxophonist on his Impulse! albums Ascension, Live At The Village Vanguard Again!, Kulu Sé Mama, Meditations, and Om, but had his own distinct concept and direction that you can hear on those recordings. Where John Coltrane is the Father of this Music, Pharoah is John’s Brother, his bright, younger contemporary who was ready to express prolifically. His was a sound of entrancement, deep emotion, lyrical chanting, layered mosaic rhythmic grooves, poly-melodic heart cries, ensemble percussion, Love, surrender, upliftment, communication with his ancestors, contemporaries and those yet to arrive, and hope for awakening and peace within Humanity.
Of Pharoahs 11 albums on Impulse! as a leader, the ones in front of you are Tauhid (#1 from 1967), Jewels Of Thought (#3 from 1969) and Summun Bukmun Umyun – Deaf Dumb Blind (#4 from 1970). It was John Coltrane’s influence on Music and the Recording Industry that opened the door for Pharoah Sanders, and through that door Pharoah would fly, soar and inspire! During this time he was also featured on Alice Coltrane’s Impulse! releases Ptah, The El Daoud playing Tenor Saxophone, Alto Flute and Bells and on her most beloved recording Journey In Satchidananda playing Soprano Saxophone and Percussion.
The significance of Pharoah Sanders today is for you to discover. He is among my greatest inspirations of all time and always will be! He is a man of few words, and when you see him play now, it’s more about being in his presence than expecting him to play lots of flashy runs. From his first note you know it’s him and that you’re in for profound integrity and deeply soulful energy. He always dresses in bold, bright hues, sometimes patterns, sometimes wearing shades, always a fez or hat of some sort. He stood out in GQ Style’s 2016 feature “These 10 Living Legends of Jazz Prove Nobody Can Out-Dress the OGs” – the relevance is there. So strong! The last time I saw Pharoah in Los Angeles at Catalina’s I was happy to connect with my friend Knxwledge. He was there with Rapper Earl Sweatshirt and Producer Alchemist. I sat with a table of 18 year old prodigies including pianist Jamael Dean . . .
Recommendation: Put all of these records on repeat for days and days, let them transmute your life, then tell your friends, family and everyone you come into contact with about Pharoah Sanders!
Sincerely,
Carlos Niño (Spaceways Radio, Leaving Records, Dublab)
Sunday, September 10, 2017
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on Saturday, October 14, 2017 – 02:20 pm
John Coltrane on Giant Steps
John Coltrane on Giant Steps | Blank on Blank
"I want to be the force which is truly for good."
- John Coltrane in 1966, as told Frank Kofsky
https://youtu.be/ZF0EvYd_Bgw
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on Sunday, October 15, 2017 – 10:36 pm
>> had this playing earlier,
>> had this playing earlier, john in belgium with the quartet in 1965.
https://youtu.be/59pbGmckFE8 <<
even with low resolution this is still a masterpiece. bump'em.
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on Monday, October 16, 2017 – 12:13 am
Heard a version of 'India'
Heard a version of 'India' from the village vanguard last night that was wonderful.
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on Monday, October 16, 2017 – 12:21 am
dig
dig
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on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 – 01:27 pm
It would b remiss of me to
It would b remiss of me to not bring up Azar Lawrence in this thread.
He's been a part of Miles Davis and McCoy tyner lineups throughout his career and is one of the top Coltrane legacy players.
he doesn't tour much but does residencies in long beach quite often.
very skilled and soulful player with a clean sound and profound insight into trane's approach.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9aKwgW5wJFY
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on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 – 08:14 pm
Yeah E -- great stuff. Great
Yeah E -- great stuff. Great great stuff.
I picked this one up tonite... I'm a big fan of Joe Farrell so I'll always grab one of his titles with confidence:
Joe Farrell - Outback
"Outback" (John Scott) – 8:40
"Sound Down" (Joe Farrell/Geri Farrell) – 8:30
"Bleeding Orchid" (Chick Corea) – 6:45
"November 68th" (Joe Farrell) – 9:25
Joe Farrell – Tenor and soprano saxophone, flute, alto flute, piccolo
Chick Corea – Electric piano
Elvin Jones – Drums
Buster Williams – Bass
Airto Moreira – Percussion
https://youtu.be/oFHTEGdqynU
He played in the Elvin Jones Trio after the drummer departed Coltrane's quartet. When I saw the lineup on this album, it was a no-brainer for me
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on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 – 09:43 am
Is it true tyner and jones
Is it true tyner and jones both quit the band after the 'ascension' recording session, with jones intentionally breaking his snare drum in a dramatic fashion after the second 45 min take in order to ensure the prevention a third?
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on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 – 10:48 am
Amazing if true. I thought
Fucking amazing if true. I thought they stayed on until a little later in his career, maybe late '65 or even '66, but I don't know the history that well.
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on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 01:44 pm
Yeah, I think they bailed in
Yeah, I think they bailed in late 65'.
he somehow got them back for 'meditations' but apparently the 'Ascension' sessions from earlier that year had pretty much broke them
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on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 02:33 pm
Kulu Se Mama and Meditations
Kulu Se Mama and Meditations have been in heavy rotation over the past few days. Some Interstellar Space peppered in, too.
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on Thursday, October 19, 2017 – 04:43 pm
Interstellar space has some
Interstellar space has some inhuman riffs on it.
i've heard Alice got him into acid and eastern philosophy, was she able to clean up his diet at all near the end or was he at his heaviest during his final days?
guess some of that bloat coulda been from liver issues.
that same documentary I saw that talked about Elvin jones freaking out during the Ascension session also mentioned there was a time while touring that trane's favorite meal was dozens of dinner rolls with a big ol' plate of hog brains, eggs and grits.
guess u can take the genius outta the south but u can't yadda, yadda....
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on Saturday, October 21, 2017 – 01:28 pm
Bump
Bump
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on Sunday, October 22, 2017 – 08:32 pm
I've been enjoying Alice's
I've been enjoying Alice's Ptah, the El Daoud quite a bunch over the tail end of this past week. Really really high levels of interplay between the players on that one and a sweet medium between mellow post bop and music edging unto the borders of the ecstatic.
https://youtu.be/RzuyR6GeXRg
Furious E can you give any indication of where to find that doc? Haven't been able to locate those interview excerpts and some of those stories are whacky. Can you share the title or the year of publication?
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on Monday, October 23, 2017 – 08:09 am
McCloys playing became pretty
McCloys playing became pretty stagnant towards the end of the famous quartet era. In his defense, Coltrane was kinda just playing for himself at that point. Tyner got stuck just kinda banging around on the piano during a lot of those long extended Coltrane solos. Then he would stop playing and Coltrane and Jones would do a 20 min kinda drum/sax solo. Seemed like he just got sick of Johns "reaching out" by the end of it. I read in an interview where he refers to Coltranes playing as becoming "atonal". Kinda hard to disagree with that.
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on Monday, October 23, 2017 – 11:23 am
The documentary I was
The documentary I was referencing was this bbc special:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BPyWCkoOXYM
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on Monday, October 23, 2017 – 01:30 pm
below is the sanders nice,
below is the sanders nice, france show from 1971 as one seamless track.
https://youtu.be/l5N5wfsx6i0
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on Friday, October 27, 2017 – 04:14 pm
Thanks for the Pharoah
Thanks for the Pharoah Sanders link, Lava.
I've been revisiting McCoy Tyner's Extensions these past few days. Thanks to Furious E for linking that one in. Great, great title.
McCoy Tyner – piano
Gary Bartz – alto saxophone
Wayne Shorter – tenor saxophone, soprano saxophone
Ron Carter – bass
Elvin Jones – drums
Alice Coltrane – harp
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2k_uMEkCrWHZ95DhdedtenvMMdmCtwzl
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on Thursday, November 2, 2017 – 12:57 pm
>> I want to be the force
>> I want to be the force which is truly for good.
- John Coltrane <<
Nice to revisit this thread.
If you are into the 'Kulu Se Mama,' 'Africa Brass,' big band kinda out there, stuff I highly recommend checking out this title off of AUM Fidelity, DOUBLE SUNRISE OVER NEPTUNE (AUM047, 2007) with some of the best contemporary improvisers of our time, somethin really fascinating and just a sick project led by the brilliant William Parker on bass... dig:
http://aumfidelity.bandcamp.com/album/double-sunrise-over-neptune
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on Thursday, November 2, 2017 – 01:42 pm
The olatunji 'my favorite
The olatunji 'my favorite things' from the fabled last trane live recording is one of my favorite works of art although I rarely have the fortitude to listen to the entire thing.
after a very lengthy bass solo intro, the sonic assault by trane and Pharaoh is almost too frantic and raw to handle.
To me it's like the musical equivalent of an animal being torn apart by a predator.
Like trane is that animal and life itself the predator
from an artistic standpoint, he certainly did not go gently into that good night and raged against the dying of the light to his last breath.
may we all find a way to b a little more like John Coltrane in our day to day lives.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDrkTmqxQk
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on Saturday, November 4, 2017 – 06:43 pm
Check out Chasing Trane on
Check out Chasing Trane on PBS
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/chasing-trane/
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on Sunday, November 5, 2017 – 12:13 pm
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on Monday, November 6, 2017 – 09:50 am
Independent Lens: Chasing
Independent Lens: Chasing Trane - Documentary
New York Metro area Premier Broadcast is tonight on PBS on Channel 13 from 10:00PM-11:30PM
John Coltrane is still a very special person, and his talent is revered by Long Islanders and our community.
http://www.thecoltranehome.org/
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on Thursday, November 9, 2017 – 12:51 am
Coltrane discussed the impact
Over the years, Coltrane discussed at length the impact that John Gilmore's playing had on the development of his own sound. By the the time that 'Trane had exited from the final assembly of Miles Davis' First "Great Quintet" at the conclusion of Kind of Blue, Gilmore had already been a seasoned veteran of Sun Ra's earlier, experimental "big" lineups, as well as the proto-Arkestra bands and small combos; he was definitely among Ra's 'inner circle' of working musicians crafting music in the sanctum of the mobile, spiritual spaceshape that was the Sun Ra commune (and, indeed, that band did effectively establish a "commune" during their time living and working in NYC, years before the development of the 'downtown' 'loft' scene, and prior to the final landing of the spaceship in Ra's adopted hometown of Philadelphia PA), and by the time that Coltrane was stretching the boundaries of his sound – and the capacity for his audiences to biggen their ears and embolden their palate – Gilmore was also working recording dates in aggressive, progressive bands like the lineup that recorded the criminally underrated The Artistry of Freddie Hubbard:
Freddie Hubbard - trumpet
Curtis Fuller - trombone
John Gilmore - tenor saxophone
Tommy Flanagan - piano
Art Davis - bass
Louis Hayes - drums
"Caravan"
https://youtu.be/JVTQjXPg4Uc
"The 7th Day"
https://youtu.be/lNvSB1d6Cc8
Definitely an album worth seeking out. Not the backbeat-driven funk of Hubbard's early and mid 70s work, but somewhere in between his tenure among the youngbucks working the 'Big Beat' of Art Blakey's message and the forward-leaning, aggressive bop of Freddie's late 60s Atlantic work. A great collection.
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on Thursday, November 9, 2017 – 01:10 am
I really like that 'Caravan'.
I really like that 'Caravan'.
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on Friday, November 10, 2017 – 05:11 pm
Interesting to examine the
Interesting to examine the variety of work that Coltrane's bandmates did with other artists. I have been diving into early and mid 60s Freddie Hubbard through the great Blue Note Re-Issue Series comp from the mid 70s, and Elvin Jones and McCoy Tyner (as well as Wayne Shorter) contributed some serious power to Hub's compositions.
Meanwhile, this is album that I flipped some time ago and, every now and again, feel the pang of regret about getting rid of:
Frank Foster – The Loud Minority
https://youtu.be/0u3ELUm0IGo
Big band "out" jazz. Well worth your time to take 15mins and step outside of your normal musical zone.
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on Friday, November 10, 2017 – 05:13 pm
http://video.wttw.com/video
http://video.wttw.com/video/3002678839/
chasing trane doc
not sure if this was posted in this thread
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on Sunday, November 12, 2017 – 11:20 am
On July 26th, John Coltrane
On July 26th, 1965, John Coltrane performed "A Love Supreme" live for the first and only time in his career.
The following 12 minutes of footage is the only surviving footage from that performance.
https://vimeo.com/89837165
Hope it hasn't been posted. Enjoy.
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on Monday, November 13, 2017 – 11:27 am
http://www.johncoltranehouse
http://www.johncoltranehouse.org/blog/2013/12/17/My-Favorite-Things.aspx
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on Thursday, November 16, 2017 – 01:08 pm
>> Hope it hasn't been posted
>> Hope it hasn't been posted. Enjoy.
Never even seen that before. Great link thank you.
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on Thursday, November 16, 2017 – 05:19 pm
I will do all I can to be
I will do all I can to be worthy of Thee O Lord. It all has to do with it. Thank you God. Peace. There is none other. God is, It is so beautiful. Thank you God. God is all. Help us to resolve our fears and weaknesses. Thank you God. In You all things are possible. We know. God made us so. Keep your eye on God. God is. He always was. He always will be. No matter what…it is God. He is gracious and merciful. It is most important that I know Thee. Words, sounds, speech, men, memory, thoughts, fears and emotions – time – all related…all made from one…all made in one. Blessed be His name. Thought waves – heat waves – all vibrations – all paths lead to God. Thank you God. His way…it is so lovely…it is gracious. It is merciful – thank you God. His way…it is so lovely…it is gracious. It is merciful – thank you God. One thought can produce millions of vibrations and they all go back to God…everything does. Thank you God. Have no fear…believe…thank you God.
The universe has many wonders. God is all. His way…it is so wonderful. Thoughts – deeds – vibrations, etc. They all go back to God and He cleanses all. He is gracious and merciful…thank you God. Glory to God…God is so alive. God is. God loves. May I be acceptable in Thy sight. We are all one in His grace. The fact that we do exist is acknowledgement of Thee of Lord. Thank you God. God will wash away all our tears…He always has…He always will. Seek Him everyday. In all ways seek God everyday. Let us sing all songs to God To whom all praise is due…praise God. No road is an easy one, but they all go back to God. With all we share God. It is all with God. It is all with Thee. Obey the Lord. Blessed is He. We are from one thing…the will of God…thank you God.
I have seen God – I have seen ungodly – none can be greater – none can compare to God. Thank you God. He will remake us…He always has and He always will. It is true – blessed be His name – thank you God. God breathes through us so completely…so gently we hardly feel it…yet, it is our everything. Thank you God. ELATION – ELEGANCE – EXALTATION – All from God. Thank you God. Amen. [John Coltrane – December, 1964]
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on Thursday, November 16, 2017 – 06:40 pm
>> Great link thank you.
>> Great link thank you.
You're welcome. It's a little treasure. I sure did enjoy it.
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on Friday, November 17, 2017 – 04:20 pm
A reasonable cogent
A reasonable cogent explanation of the Coltrane circle:
https://roelhollander.eu/en/blog-saxophone/Coltrane-Tone-Circle/
Basically a "circle of fourths" if you start at C and alternate outside/inside circles. Can be used to derived interesting sequences.
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on Friday, November 17, 2017 – 04:32 pm
*reasonably*
*reasonably*
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on Saturday, November 18, 2017 – 01:24 am
100 !!!
100 !!!
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on Saturday, November 18, 2017 – 04:31 am
Seriously?
Seriously?
u couldn't at least find a cat playing a sax or something?
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on Saturday, November 18, 2017 – 06:10 pm
This is pretty good stuff, a
Perhaps a bit tangential, but this is some really good stuff: a release from last year with a certain deference to Coltrane's melding of avant-jazz idioms and South Asian classical forms, replete with beautiful arrangements for tabla and harp. It's called Journey to the Mountain of Forever, from an assembly of jazz musicians headed by saxophonist Binker Golding and drummer Moses Boyd.
Chill material with some real backbone.
Binker & Moses - "At the Feet of the Mountain of Forever"
https://youtu.be/bnzEprmhfA4
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 01:11 am
Bump. Oscillating between
Bump. Oscillating between Coltrane's Impressions and Eric Dolphy's Last Date these past couple days, like starting a bridge across the English channel and ending up in the Far East. Amazing.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:10 am
Blah.
Blah.
Blah. Blah blah. Blah
Blah
Blah
Bump
Blah
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 11:18 am
For real, I'll settle for a
For real, I'll settle for a pic of a cat riding a train at this point.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 11:44 am
>>u couldn't at least find a
>>u couldn't at least find a cat playing a sax or something?
E, do u think ur generation owns humor? Can you confirm?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 11:54 am
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 11:55 am
ive acquired a choice
ive acquired a choice pressing of the africa brass sessions, volume two, and haven’t stopped listening to it since it arrived. the versions of song of the underground railroad and greensleeves are sublime.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 12:07 pm
Nice cover art too
Nice cover art too
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 12:20 pm
Got me going. I'm spinning
Got me going. I'm spinning Lush Life.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 01:29 pm
>>>E, do u think ur
>>>E, do u think ur generation owns humor? Can you confirm?
i wouldn't go that far, but they do seem much more adept at communicating on the Internet.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 01:46 pm
Thanks for your reply, E. I
Thanks for your reply, E. I would agree that your generation communicates more adeptly with each other on the internet, yet I am not convinced that they communicate more adeptly with my generation. Seems they have a hard time tolerating the communication skills of my generation - and in order to communicate even more adeptly - they should be more tolerant and not get upset and resort to insults - because their insults appear to be met with insults back. Insults back and forth are NOT adept communication no matter which generation is employing them. What's your feeling on this?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-8pU7VCf9o
John Coltrane / The Cats 1957 (Full Album)
The Cats is an album credited to jazz musicians Tommy Flanagan, John Coltrane, Kenny Burrell, and Idrees Sulieman, released in 1959 on New Jazz Records, catalogue 8217. It was issued after Coltrane had already ceased recording for the label.
Track listing
1 "Minor Mishap"
2 "How Long Has This Been Going On"
3 "Eclypso"
4 "Solacium"
5 "Tommy's Tune"
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:41 pm
why has the 3 legged troll
why has the 3 legged troll rrg come to the coltrane thread with it's nonsense?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:43 pm
To share a link to a great
To share a link to a great record?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:44 pm
>> To share a link to a great
>> To share a link
We need to go deeper.
[Inception.]
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:49 pm
No, I have zero fucks left to
No, I have zero fucks left to give about things of that nature.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:50 pm
Then start posting some links
Then start posting some links or else shut yer yap.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:53 pm
Hey thanks again for the
Hey thanks again for the albums you sent me.
But I wil post whatever, whenever, or never.
You dig?
Addendum: Maybe you missed my link to the analysis of Coltrane's circle of fourths?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:55 pm
That's the ticket.
That's the ticket, Aiq.
Jackie McLean, "Love and Hate" Destination... Out! (1963) (link)
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 02:58 pm
>> Coltrane's circle of
>> Coltrane's circle of fourths?
I attended a talk where Coltrane's biographer Lewis Porter, as well as two other composers and music theorists, offered some insight on how to dissect that graph.
I'm still way too uneducated about theory or composition to grasp it, but the link was helpful. Therefore I still assert that it's actually a sort of cheat sheet for channeling spirits.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:01 pm
> 3 legged troll lol
> 3 legged troll
lol
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:03 pm
Spirits, arppegios, riffs,
Spirits, arppegios, riffs, same diff.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:03 pm
>> Blah. Blah blah. Blah
>> Blah. Blah blah. Blah
Jackie McLean, "Demon's Dance" Demon's Dance (1970) (link)
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:07 pm
We need to go deeper.
We need to go deeper.
[Inception.]
75 Dollar Bill live at WFMU's Monty Hall, Jersey City NJ 2017-10-07
http://freemusicarchive.org/music/75_Dollar_Bill/Live_at_Monty_Hall_1072017
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:31 pm
>>>> What's your feeling on
>>>> What's your feeling on this?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:40 pm
What can we do to turn this
What can we do to turn this failure into a success?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:44 pm
>> What can we do to turn
>> What can we do to turn this failure into a success?
We need to go deeper.
[Inception.]
Billy Harper Quintet live at Dizzy's in Lincoln Centre, NYC NY 2017-01-04 (link)
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 03:47 pm
six is talking to himself
six is talking to himself again
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:09 pm
No - I'm asking E a question
No - I'm asking E a question - but you two are not being helpful in solving this crucial issue. Please hush up and find something else to do and let's let E have a chance to continue..
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:14 pm
I'm not trying to solve an
I'm not trying to solve an issue. I'm posting links to music in a music thread.
>> start posting some links or else shut yer yap.
Capice?
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:17 pm
It's a nice thing, and it's
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:20 pm
>>>>>>Seems they have a hard
>>>>>>Seems they have a hard time tolerating the communication skills of my generation - and in order to communicate even more adeptly - they should be more tolerant and not get upset and resort to insults - because their insults appear to be met with insults back. Insults back and forth are NOT adept communication no matter which generation is employing them. What's your feeling on this?
Poor 6. It’s pretty obvious this is a big deal for him. I mean after saying he lost all respect for the admins and posters on Viva and then coming back and bouncing between troll and bliss ninnie. I hope you figure out what you need and get it.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 04:30 pm
I concur with aetix that this
I concur with aetix that this heartfelt Coltrane sharing thread might not b the best venue for
6's apparent interested in attempting to bridge a perceived generational divide.
As misplaced and lofty as those goals may b, he appears to b sincere at the moment so, with apologies to ateix and everyone else here just appropriately seeking some kickin Jazz, I'll attempt to answer him in a sincere fashion.
i'm of the opinion that even though the nature of a msg board seems to b group communication, in actuality, every act of communication, and miscommunication, really takes place between 2 individuals.
every post we make can b construed in a myriad of ways, each slightly different for each viewer of said post.
Therefore the responsibility falls on each of us, as individuals, to try and not take posts, or ourselves, too seriously.
if we can allow ourselves to b absolved by what trane referred to as a love supreme, I feel the amount of offense both taken or intended shall b minimized.
i am of the school of thought that focusing too much on the generational aspect of any perceived interpersonal rivalries will only serve to divide us further and may, in fact, rob us of the opportunity to truly connect as individuals.
hope this helps.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 05:00 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmRQKsWgj10
ART BLAKEY & THE JAZZ MESSENGERS, Crisis
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 05:07 pm
>>Therefore the
>>Therefore the responsibility falls on each of us, as individuals, to try and not take posts, or ourselves, too seriously.
>>if we can allow ourselves to b absolved by what trane referred to as a love supreme
these are both fantastic thoughts. Thank you for your reply, E.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 06:07 pm
"Allah Supreme" is what many
"Allah Supreme" is what many claim Coltrane is chanting.
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on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 – 06:45 pm
I've heard that 'allah
I've heard that 'allah supreme' was the originally intended title.
it would make sense in accordance with the poem I posted that is purported to b the lyrics to the theme.
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on Friday, November 24, 2017 – 12:04 am
Been getting into the McCoy
Been getting into the McCoy Tyner over the last day or two.
Today spent some time listening to Reflections. I also have been sampling this other one called Sama Layuca with Bobby Hutcherson, Gary Bartz, Mtume, and a bunch of other badass musician.
Good music to accompany a good holiday, here you go peeps. Happy thanksgiving https://youtu.be/KPwNQdRQKew
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on Thursday, November 30, 2017 – 12:12 pm
Getting back into this one
Getting back into this one all day:
>> John Coltrane Quartet live at Tivoli Koncertsal, Copenhagen DEN 1963-10-25 (recording info)
Again the sound quality is poor, so poor you really can't hear Jimmy Garrison way too often. That said the playing is insane.
I think I saw this on wax the other day, I'd hope they had some better quality source to master from, because the sound quality is kinda shit on this transfer Lol
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on Monday, December 4, 2017 – 10:55 am
bump
bump
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on Thursday, December 7, 2017 – 02:18 pm
John Coltrane -
Clear out your headspace with some sonic insanity.
John Coltrane - Meditations
https://youtu.be/TuzfMR-7v1I
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on Friday, December 15, 2017 – 01:53 pm
Here's a photo of Elvin Jones
Here's a photo of Elvin Jones nailing his bass drum to the stage:
That is all.
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on Friday, December 15, 2017 – 03:28 pm
Great pic!
Great pic!
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on Thursday, January 4, 2018 – 03:39 pm
This morning I put on the
This morning I put on the great 'Expansions', with Gary Bartz, Freddie Waits and Wayne Shorter all absolutely shredding on this crucial McCoy Tyner disc. Brilliant group and individual improv. Really taps into some dirty funky but also spiritual ascension.
This is a good one I nabbed at the thrift store. $0.80 and features some really cool banjo, bass, and horn playing:
'Bob Thiele And His New Happy Times Orchestra – The 20s Score Again'
Gatsby's 3:03
Sheik Of Araby 2:10
China Boy 3:30
Someday Sweetheart 4:05
Singin' The Blues 2:56
Indiana (Back Home Again In Indiana) 2:50
What'll I Do 3:11
Muskrat Ramble 3:03
(Princeton Medley) 2:05
Old Nassau
The Princeton Cannon Song
Wolverine Blues 2:31
Farewell Blues 3:21
Also been loving this cd recently, feat the great Joe Henderson on tenor sax, The Real McCoy.
Bass – Ron Carter
Drums – Elvin Jones
Piano – McCoy Tyner
Producer – Alfred Lion
Recorded By – Rudy Van Gelder
Tenor Saxophone – Joe Henderson
I shouldnt include it in this post but I have to mention this is a really fucking killer lineup that I stumbled across at my local record shop yesterday:
Flute, Tenor Saxophone – Frank Wess
Guitar – Jimmy Ponder (tracks: A1, A2), Melvin Sparks (tracks: B1 to B3)
Organ – Charlie Earland
Percussion – Lawrence Killian
Trumpet – Bill Hardman
I shouldn't neglect this title, I got a nice early 80s reissue for cheap cheap and it sounds phenomenal, such beautiful playing by Ron Carter and Charles Persip as well:
Mal Waldron With Eric Dolphy And Booker Ervin – The Quest
Alto Saxophone, Clarinet – Eric Dolphy
Bass – Joe Benjamin
Cello – Ron Carter
Drums – Charles Persip
Piano – Mal Waldron
Tenor Saxophone – Booker Ervin
'Recorded June 27, 1961.
Originally released on New Jazz label as NJ 8269'
Finally, this Chico Freeman disc with awesome drumming from Elvin Jones:
The Pied Piper (BlackHawk Records – BKH 50801)
Alto Saxophone, Baritone Saxophone, Oboe, Flute [Alto], Piccolo Flute – John Purcell
Bass – Cecil McBee
Drums – Elvin Jones
Piano – Kenny Kirkland (tracks: A2, A3, B2, B3), Mark Thompson (9) (tracks: A1, B1)
Producer – Chico Freeman, Herb Wong
Tenor Saxophone, Alto Saxophone, Sopranino Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone, Bass Clarinet, Bass Flute, C Flute – Chico Freeman
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on Thursday, January 4, 2018 – 09:02 pm
Good shit
Good shit!
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on Saturday, January 6, 2018 – 12:52 pm
Santana and Mclaughlin - 1973
Santana and Mclaughlin - 1973-09-01
https://youtu.be/1SQwzEcPY4w
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on Saturday, January 6, 2018 – 01:18 pm
Classic bootleg, that ^^^
Classic bootleg, that ^^^
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on Saturday, January 6, 2018 – 02:31 pm
the netflix bio on coltrane
the netflix bio on coltrane was pretty good
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on Saturday, January 6, 2018 – 02:48 pm
It was pretty good but watch
Yeah it's good but watch the one about Lee Morgan I Called Him 'Morgan.' It starts slow, first quarter of the movie or so, it's short, stick with it. Some amazing interviews and amazing photographs in there. And truly brilliant music, too, made me wish I didn't have a shit stereo system for the teevee setup.
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on Friday, January 19, 2018 – 10:48 am
Bump for heavy shit from the
Bump for heavy shit from the First Disciples
Pharoah Sanders – Jewels Of Thought (1969)
Bass, Percussion – Cecil McBee, Richard Davis
Drums – Roy Haynes
Drums, Percussion – Idris Muhammad
Piano, Kalimba, Reeds, Percussion – Lonnie Liston Smith
Reeds, Kalimba, Percussion – Pharoah Sanders
Vocals, Percussion – Leon Thomas
https://youtu.be/fBzQP6QprBI
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on Friday, January 19, 2018 – 11:14 am
Nice!
Nice!
here's an article about trane's last public performance:
http://www.baltimoreorless.com/2013/09/john-coltranes-last-ever-gig-was-...
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on Friday, January 19, 2018 – 11:24 am
Very cool retrospective.
Very cool retrospective. Loved this:
I've been getting really into the Heath Brothers lately, especially Jimmy Heath. This album is a smoker:
The Gap Sealer
Bass – Bob Cranshaw
Drums – Al "Tootie" Heath
Percussion – Mtume
Piano – Kenny Barron
Soprano Saxophone, Tenor Saxophone – Jimmy Heath
https://youtu.be/4m1aAFJK8EE
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on Friday, January 19, 2018 – 02:14 pm
Luis Gasca, "A Love Supreme"
Luis Gasca, "A Love Supreme" (feat Joe Henderson) Born To Love You (1974)
https://youtu.be/J4chANXvdFI
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on Monday, March 5, 2018 – 11:30 pm
The Coltrane Home Foundation
The Coltrane Home Foundation had a table down stairs at the Bobby / Phil Radio City Show Saturday Night.
I signed some form & grabbed this index card:
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on Monday, March 5, 2018 – 11:33 pm
Olé Coltrane
Olé Coltrane
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on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 – 03:45 am
great thread
great thread
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on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 – 09:57 am
>>>>>this other one called
>>>>>this other one called Sama Layuca with Bobby Hutcherson, Gary Bartz, Mtume, and a bunch of other badass musician.
One of my favs. Just played it in fact.
Tyner is the bomb.
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on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 – 01:31 pm
http://www.coltranechurch.org
http://www.coltranechurch.org/
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on Friday, April 20, 2018 – 12:37 pm
>> It would b remiss of me to
>> It would b remiss of me to not bring up Azar Lawrence in this thread.
McCoy Tyner Quintet live at Jazzfest Berlin 1974-01-11
McCoy Tyner (p)
Azar Lawrence (ss, ts)
Guilherme Franco (perc)
Juni Booth (b)
Wilby Fletcher (dr)
https://youtu.be/GPDv7eopy-k
I'm thinking about going to see Azar play here in a couple weeks. He's got Henry Franklin on bass, which is nuts. We'll see how it goes.
Azar is slaying in the clip above, but Tyner is broadcasts just an insane amount of information.
This audio/video quality is a touch better than the Montreaux '73 set (Enlightenment suite), too.
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on Friday, April 27, 2018 – 01:03 pm
John Coltrane Quintet live on
John Coltrane Quintet live on Ralph Gleason's Jazz Casual (KQED), San Francisco CA 1963 ("Afro Blue")
John Coltrane - ss
Jimmy Garrison - b
McCoy Tyner - p
Elvin Jones - d
https://youtu.be/OoSj2UBeJGo
Cited in this NY Times article on postmodern great Milford Graves (one of the greats still "sucking wind," Lance; you should check out his newest project Full Mantis):
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/arts/music/milford-graves-jazz-full-m...
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on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 10:39 am
Here's a few pics. from the
Here's a few pics. from the Asheville show.
Stay tuned for more!
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on Tuesday, May 1, 2018 – 01:36 pm
Great Midnight North shots.
Great Midnight North shots. Thanks.
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on Sunday, July 1, 2018 – 04:10 pm
7/1/2018
7/1/2018
John Coltrane
Both Directions at Once: The Lost Album
The newly discovered, unreleased album from 1963 featuring the “classic quartet” finds the jazz giant thrillingly caught between shoring up and surging forth.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/john-coltrane-both-directions-at-once-the-lost-album/
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on Monday, July 2, 2018 – 12:01 am
Weird - this album just
Weird - this album just advertised on TV!
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on Sunday, September 23, 2018 – 01:18 pm
John Coltrane - "Untitled"
John Coltrane - "Untitled Original 11383" Both Directions at Once (2018)
https://youtu.be/q7X2X7LDFok
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on Saturday, December 15, 2018 – 02:03 pm
Bump for T.O.D., 6er, and
Bump for T.O.D., 6er, and Surfdead.
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on Sunday, February 24, 2019 – 12:40 pm
Thanks for starting this
Thanks for starting this thread, Ateix. I love jazz.
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on Sunday, February 24, 2019 – 12:58 pm
->>>...Ateix
->
>>...Ateix
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:11 am
Bump for Boo Boo.
Bump for Boo Boo.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:15 am
That is some next level,
That is some next level, fourth dimensional type trolling, RRG.
I applaud your efforts.
There's some stuff in this thread I wrote that I don't even remember happening. Azar Lawrence with Henry Franklin on bass? I fuckin' missed out BIG TIME buddy.
Good bump, 3LG.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:19 am
good morning ateix.
good morning ateix.
ignore the aarp members.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:20 am
For those trying to figure
For those trying to figure this out, I present two exhibits:
Exhibit A: "Bump for Boo Boo". This is an example of next level, fourth dimensional type trolling
Exhibit B: "Bump for T.O.D., 6er, and Surfdead." This, however, is not an example of next level, fourth dimensional type trolling
Make sure YOU can tell the difference.
Clear?
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:21 am
Thanks 6 very clear, good
Thanks 6 very clear, good bump, ol' chap.
Still Chasin' Trane...
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:21 am
>>ignore the aarp members.
>>ignore the aarp members.
Yes, by all means. Just try. lol
And enjoy a hot dog!
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:21 am
I had hot dogs last nite.
I had hot dogs last nite.
Grilled to perfection.
Delicious.
#earlysummernites
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:21 am
A mighty hot dog is our Lord!
A mighty hot dog is our Lord!
Hot dog was for Turts, btw.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:22 am
Are you her to translate RRG
Good morning, Turtle!
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:23 am
I'm not here to translate for
I'm not here to translate for you, baller.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:23 am
Good talk.
Good talk.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:24 am
I cunt here you. Perhaps one
It's all talk
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:25 am
I called the student legal
Elephant talk
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:25 am
What the balls are you
What the balls are you talking about ol' chap?
Why is the AARP Douche Krewe bumping this unrightfully maligned thread???
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:26 am
What the balls are you
>> I called the student legal aid office and they said you had already been there
What the balls are you talking about ol' chap?
Why is the AARP Douche Krewe bumping this unrightfully maligned thread???
>>Jesus! - more edits...
Correct... pull it together. You and RRG need to cut back on the drinking before noon...
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:27 am
I repeat myself when under
I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:29 am
Have you gotten a wellness
Have you gotten a wellness check since this whole shelter-in-place deal started, 6er
I know it can be isolating in the cold Vermont suburbs..
I'm getting worried about you old buddy...
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:34 am
suburbs?
suburbs?
in Vermont?
Now I'm a bit worried about you.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:38 am
I'm going to assume that's a
I'm going to assume that's a "no" ................
https://youtu.be/szzVlQ653as
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 11:49 am
I'm not clicking yo' links no
I'm not clicking yo' links no' mo', bro...'cause it looks like rain again...
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 12:14 pm
i missed ya 6.
i missed ya 6.
where's your pal froghorne?
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 12:18 pm
Blue train is my personal fav
Blue train is my personal fav Coltrane album. Just such a great band.
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on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 – 12:40 pm
>>where's your pal froghorne?
>>where's your pal froghorne?
hanging out with your pal timmy?
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on Thursday, May 14, 2020 – 12:10 am
Stumbled across this trane
Stumbled across this trane era miles band show from 1960 the other day:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8VE_dP90V84
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on Thursday, May 14, 2020 – 12:34 am
A rare post from Furious E.
A rare post from Furious E.
Qualit E over quantit E.
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on Tuesday, September 12, 2023 – 02:47 pm
Bobby Hutcherson, "Searchin'
Bobby Hutcherson, "Searchin' the Trane" Waiting (1976) (link)
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on Tuesday, September 12, 2023 – 05:14 pm
Nice bump ateix, scrolling
Nice bump ateix, scrolling all the way through this long-running thread has been enjoyable.
And Bobby Hutcherson was a gift to us all. I was lucky that he lived in the Bay Area and in his last years he played around here often. He suffered from the slow killer emphysema and I think he wanted to play as much as he could while he still could.
Toward the end he was so weak & frail that he could barely make it onto the stage, bringing his oxygen tank with him, but then those mallets would begin to dance and the entire room would levitate. He really was a master.
During that time the McCoy Tyner Trio was playing a run of shows in Oakland. I saw a couple of those sets and the second night there was a vibraphone on stage. McCoy came on and said that Bobby had called that afternoon and felt like playing so he sat in for the entire set. It was brilliant on many levels.
I have nothing new to add to this great thread, but that link to Hutcherson reminded me of that great night in Oakland.
Thanks for the memory ateix, and keep the links coming.
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on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 08:07 pm
Thanks for sharing the memory
Thanks for sharing the memory, Lance. That's a great add, in my opinion.
And your keeping the candle burning for Wayne Shorter has been a nice reminder to revisit his work with his great quartet. Without A Net and Beyond the Sound Barrier have been in heavy rotation the past few days.
Gato Barbieri, "A John Coltrane Blues" Yesterdays (1974) (link)
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on Thursday, September 14, 2023 – 08:36 pm
Why didn't I think of that?
Not an album, but it's the deep end for sure.
But then, this band didn't have a shallow end.
Wayne Shorter Quartet live...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-WmcANcpMU
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on Friday, October 13, 2023 – 11:26 am
Incredible document, Lance.
Incredible document, Lance. Fired that up the day he passed.
Happy birthday, Pharoah Sanders
(October 13, 1940 – September 24, 2022)
"The Creator Has A Master Plan" Karma (1969) (link)
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on Friday, October 13, 2023 – 11:29 am
Pharoah Sanders
Pharoah Sanders
Live at Juan les Pin Jazz Festival
Antibes, France
July, 1968
https://youtu.be/P8rX54ZhweU
Pharoah Sanders - tenor saxophone, percussion
Lonnie Liston Smith - piano
Sirone - bass
Najeed Shabazz - drums