Kavanaugh accusation

Kavanaugh.

Another fine representative of Generation X.

The GOP didn’t let it stop them from voting to approve Thomas, not going to stop them here.

the documents the GOP have hidden are of more importance, and aren’t he said/she said. 

Whether it stops them or not - it will hurt them whatever transpires.

The Republican Party was already losing the votes of many women.

This will only help them to lose more votes from women.

50 days or so.

Then BOOM!

While I would like to think this would cause at least one or two defections, I fear that the GOP power structure will not let this hold up the confirmation and they will push their guy through before November by hook or crook.  It will be ugly.

Pray for RBG.

>> Another fine representative of Generation X. <<

It's not our fault. We went through puberty when Porky's and Risky Business were in the theaters.

A bunch of old white men pushing through Kavanaugh's nomination will be an awesome public relations maneuver for the Republican cause.

>>It's not our fault.

It is, but y'all are good with excuses.

[[[[[[THE X GENERATION]]]]]

Nancy hit the nail on the head. 

I think he will still get the nomination. Its not like when Ginsburg admitted smoking cannabis. Leaving egg on Ronnie's face. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/17/brett...

>>>will be an awesome public relations maneuver for the Republican cause

Does it even matter.   People just vote for Dems or Repubs without even thinking these days.   It's like cheering on your favorite sports team.   It doesn't matter what happened as long as you win.   

Don Jr. keeping it classy as usual.

apparently the alleged 3rd person in the room was his school chum with the last name Judge...well I guess he wrote a memoir or book about the culture of binge drinking and debauchery in their little prep school. So that's his alibi...

Clearly a forgery.  Any future Supreme Court nominee would have had the whole "i before e, except after c" thing down by 3rd Grade.

the GOP power structure will not let this hold up the confirmation and they will push their guy through before November by hook or crook<<<

Seeing how they've buried their heads in the sand re: the POTUS possibly leaving our nation's jugular exposed to the world, I believe overlooking Kavanaugh's transgressions will be a walk in a park

It'll be interesting to see what happens if he gets shut down, will the GOP still try to push someone else through before midterms?

>>>>will the GOP still try to push someone else through before midterms?

They simply won't have time before November.  However, a new Congress will not be seated until January, so they might have time to start from scratch and get someone else in before then.  But that will still be pushing it and they would have to decide right away whether to run with the teenage rapist or find someone new.  

Dude looks pretty rapey.

https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/17/dr_blasey_ford_alleges_kavanaugh_...

I’m not normally pro prison-rape, but for Don Jr I can make an exception. A serious POS. 

Confirm>Pink/Blue Wave>Congress Flip>SCOTUS Impeach>New nomination 2019.

bring it...

How come those Trump boys, with all their money, can't get decent dental work done already? Both of their mouths look like they went through a meat grinder.

They like that inbred look. 

Is this guy dumb enough to lie about this incident under oath? Does he not recall what the meaning of IS is?

Likely the he'll just say he does not recall, ala Sessions. Now whether or not he'll say "I was too drunk to recall"...

How can he get caught lying under oath?

The same way Clinton was caught, Sealion 

If you don't know your history, Google is your friend

What happened to Clinton?

she won the popular vote

ironic, isn't it?

cause she's so unpopular with a lot of people.

>>>> the same way Clinton was caught

Well, with Clinton, there was some physical evidence of the lying.  In this case, its a he said/she said.  She sounds credible enough and I can totally see that guy as a creepy, rapey prep-school douche.   But the lady's credible story, by itself, may not be enough to support an impeachment for lying under oath.

So do they bring in the other people from that story to testify?  Wasn't there another guy, and possibly 4 other women? Will CSPAN break into the reality TV market?  Will the Republicans throw the whole thing out?  Will the people demand more tweets?  Will fucks be given???  

No need to impeach, just need a couple GOP senators to vote NO

"

"creepy, rapey prep-school douche"

-there's a bull market for these guys now

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-mark-judge-...

A president being investigated for collusion with the Russian government gets to pick 2/9th of a jury they may decide his fate. Any zoners get to pick there judges when going to court? It's ok I'll wait for the answer. 

Rapist POTUS picks rapist SCOTUS.

Republicans ruined the supreme court. Dems will pack the court next time there in control nominating Judge Garland has the 10th justice then as many that are needed to give the dems one more justice than the GOP. 7-6 or 6-5 something like that.

No TENURE for SCOTUS it's time for term limits for Judges.

> But the lady's credible story, by itself, may not be enough to support an impeachment for lying under oath.

well, she did pass a lie detector test. they could make him take the test..pretty sure he's sweating right now since he jumped the gun and already denied it. really should have stuck with "I can't recall" - I mean that's actually believable, given that he probably was a shitfaced drunk teenager. just seems like the lamest way to derail the nominee, but I'll take it that's all that sticks. he's obviously got tons of skeletons in the closet and this one is small potatoes. 

Noodlerlion is funny 

>>>>>Dems will pack the court next time there in control nominating Judge Garland has the 10th justice then as many that are needed to give the dems one more justice than the GOP. 7-6 or 6-5 something like that.

Mot gonna happen.

so many sea lions

Noodler was being ironic, Poolion. Not so many, just you. 

Are you being ironic?  If you don't know what ironic means, google is your friend. 

>>>then as many that are needed to give the dems one more justice than the GOP. 7-6 or 6-5 something like that.

FDR tried that.  Didn't work.

"On Friday, Judge Kavanaugh ‘categorically and unequivocally’ denied this allegation. This has not changed. Judge Kavanaugh and the White House both stand by that statement."

I suspect that more victims will come forward now. He's a lying SOB, just like Donnie. 

2 party system surf. Who's gonna stop it in a majority rule system where the minority is ignored when not in power?

Obama elected GOP takes control of congress and nothing gets done for 6 years. Signing statement president only no legislation. Trump elected even with a GOP congress is mostly a signing statement president no legislation outside of tax cuts. Plenty of time to campaign for midterms while on the job. GOP wouldn't work with Obama not it's payback time with Trump in office after midterms for the Dems.

Court-packing, Democrats’ nuclear option for the Supreme Court, explained

Why an FDR plan from the 1930s is suddenly popular again.

By Dylan Matthews@dylanmattdylan@vox.com  Updated Jul 10, 2018, 3:33pm EDT

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/2/17513520/court-packing-explained-fdr-roosev...

Dr. Ford mentioned the almost rape to her husband in 2002 and 2006. She told her therapist in 2012 so she has a shit-ton of credibility unlike the GOP thugs. Flake & Corker are our best bets.

Ford vs Kavanaugh monday

Accuser Will Publicy Testify Monday

Christine Blasey Ford has accused the Supreme Court nominee of attempted sexual assault when they were teens.

By Ryan Grenoble and Igor Bobic

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-christine-ford-hear...

You know, I probably wouldn't hold much of anything someone did in high school against them 30 years later if they were properly contrite, showed insight into their wrongdoing, and seemed to have learned the appropriate lessons and made the appropriate changes.  People really change a lot after that time period.  However, I am concerned with the possibility that he might be lying NOW, which is not cool for a Supreme Court Justice.  Needs to be investigated.

Completely false. yeah...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-17/white-house-is-said-n...

>The White House hasn’t asked the FBI to investigate the allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted a woman when they were in high school, a request required for the bureau to take further action, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The FBI’s initial background investigation into Kavanaugh was completed before Christine Blasey Ford came forward with the allegation. Kavanaugh, who has denied the allegation as “completely false,” and Ford have both said they’re willing to testify before Congress.

shit-ton of women on senate committee this time around unlike Anita Hill.

Might be real interesting week for the white house, daily news page 6 says that ronan farrow has copies of the celebrity apprentice tapes where our leader uses bad language. 

Kavanaughs buddy mark judge is a scum bag. They should have him testify, the books he wrote make his highschool days sound some what like mine with less drinking and fewer attempted rapes and more smoking. I spent the last 3 years of my hs days in a catholic school and those boys were clueless when it came to getting laid. They had a deal they called getting grabs. I guess that meant you tried to grab some girls boobs in mostly inappropriate places. 

>>>daily news page 6 says that ronan farrow has copies of the celebrity apprentice tapes where our leader uses bad language. 

Tom Arnold
(@TomArnold)

Mark Burnett just went apeshit & choked me at this huge Emmy party then he ran away with his torn Pink shirt & missing gold chain. I’m waiting for LAPD

Roma Downey
(@RealRomaDowney)

Got this bruise tonight when Tom Arnold tried to ambush my husband Mark and me at a charity event. Is your TV show worth it Tom?Please stop

Tom Arnold
(@TomArnold)

FYI: Kevin Bacon is a solid reliable brawl witness. Sosie Bacon is a wingman.

https://twitter.com/search/tom+arnold

>>>>Kavanaughs buddy mark judge is a scum bag. They should have him testify, the books he wrote make his highschool days sound some what like mine with less drinking and fewer attempted rapes and more smoking.

yeah it’s pretty amazing that the 3rd person in the room with Kavanaugh and Ford is a guy who has authored a book on his time as an alcoholic in high school and college: https://www.amazon.com/Wasted-Tales-Mark-Gauvreau-Judge/dp/1568381425

The Moral Majority, ladies and gentlemen. 

>>>>will the GOP still try to push someone else through before midterms?

They simply won't have time before November.  However, a new Congress will not be seated until January, so they might have time to start from scratch and get someone else in before then.  But that will still be pushing it and they would have to decide right away whether to run with the teenage rapist or find someone new<<<

Yeah, figured it'd be a stretch, but wouldn't put midnight confirmation past them.

They have a list of alternates all prepared in case Rapey Creepy creeps out a couple of Republicans.

In 2009, massage therapist Molly Hagerty went to the Portland, Ore., Police and gave a lengthy statement claiming that about three years earlier, former vice president Al Gore “pinned her to a bed in his hotel suite, forcibly French kissed her, and groped her breasts.” She described herself as “petrified during the encounter and how she had to bolt the room to avoid being raped.” She also described Gore as having a violent temper. She had gone to Portland Police three years earlier, but abruptly stopped cooperating with the investigation. Then, without a clear explanation, she returned and gave a full account to investigators.

The Portland Police opened an investigation and interviewed Gore. In June of 2010, news of the investigation broke, and Gore adamantly denied the accusation. Steve Kornacki, then of Salon and currently with MSNBC, told his readers that three reasons to be skeptical jump out: The Portland Police had not initially chosen to follow up on her allegation, a local newspaper had heard her story and chosen to not publish any articles about it, and that several celebrities are falsely accused of sex crimes before.

Alexandra Petri of the Washington Post pointed to the masseuse’s comment that Gore behaved like a “crazed sex poodle” and chuckled, “There are hundreds of jokes to be made here. I won’t make any of them, because I don’t want the world to be destroyed by global warming.” Marc Ambinder, then with The Atlantic, assessed her account with great skepticism:

The narrative is pulpy and riveting and tragicomic. You half expect there to be a reference to a “torn bodice” at some point. Either the masseuse or Mr. Gore has an extremely vivid imagination, and in our system of justice, we must presume that since the police did not file charges, Gore is innocent.

(You notice that there is little of this skepticism and reasoning around for the current accusations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh.)

The Portland District Attorney’s office chose not to press charges against Gore, contending that Hagerty failed a polygraph test, sold her story to the National Enquirer, and had not agreed to turn over certain medical records. “This case is not appropriate for criminal prosecution. The matter is closed and the investigative materials will be returned to PPB [the Portland Police Bureau].” The former Vice President was cleared of the charges, or at least as much as a man can be.

The only two people who know precisely what happened in that room are Al Gore and the masseuse, but there is no fair way to characterize Gore as a sexual predator or a creep. Sexual predators don’t look a certain way, publicly behave a certain way, or vote a certain way.

Nor do they come from particular backgrounds. In the coming days, you’re likely to hear a lot of sneering about wealthy and privileged white guys who attended prep schools and the Ivy Leagues, a lot of fuming about how anyone with a background like Brett Kavanaugh’s — mother who is a judge, father who is a head of a perfume-maker’s trade association, Georgetown Prep, Yale University — must be arrogant, entitled, smug, and elitist. Of course, that background is hard to distinguish from Al Gore’s — father who is a senator, mother who is a lawyer, living in the Fairfax Hotel on Embassy Row in Washington, attending Saint Albans prep school and going on to Harvard University.

Apparently, we only hate the preppies when they’re in the other party.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-double-standard-for-...

Is Al Gore up for the supreme court? Classic whataboutism!

GOP and their supporters have learned well from their new close friends the Russians.

Do you belong to that tribe Thom?

Do yourself a favor and read woodwards book. Maybe you wouldn't feel so obliged to support this clown and his cronies. 

Thom speaks people don't listen due to whataboutism

We Know Brett Kavanaugh Has Lied Already

Russ Feingold

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-russ-feingold-kavanaugh-lie...

but, but....democrats...

Thom Revere just rode into town screaming "The Clinton's are coming, The Clinton's are coming"

>>Apparently, we only hate the preppies when they’re in the other party.

Yes. They suck.

They need to put Mark Judge on the stand, see if he is willing to lie under oath.

I read a conservative tweet that said what parent would allow unsupervised drinking in their home in 1983. What planet do they live on?

In 1977 a new kid started at my school. His parents had a home in the toniest part of town. His room had its own bathroom, we had keg parties in his room. 

A party at another kids house in this same neighborhood ended with the police pounding on the door. We all ran out the back door following the kid who lived there. He had a cast on his arm and ran into a stop sign.

He spun around in a circle and landed on his ass. We all laughed our asses off. Of course the popo got him. 

>>>The Portland District Attorney’s office chose not to press charges against Gore, contending that Hagerty failed a polygraph test, sold her story to the National Enquirer, and had not agreed to turn over certain medical records.

The current accuser has passed a polygraph, hasn’t sold her story to anyone, and turned over her therapist notes. Are you saying you believe her Thom?

>They need to put Mark Judge on the stand, see if he is willing to lie under oath.

Yes, but Grassley already said that he will not allow it him to testify. And Trump’s Justice Department will not allow the FBI to investigate the allegations. I 

Only chance is to stall these hearings till after the midterms and flip the enough seats.

^he can still be comfirmed during the lame duck session 

But wait. Elmer Fudd McConnel will come up with a pwan for some new wules to get this passed NOW!

I think unsupervised drinking in high school was probably more prevalent in 1983 than it is today. Whose parents are out of town?????????

Thom, no one is suggesting that Kavanaugh be charge with a crime.  If and when Gore runs for office again or is nominated to a judgeship I assume those allegations would be an issue.

It would also be interesting if someone followed up on this invitation from federal court employees to investigate whether Kavanaugh lied about what he knew about Justice Kozinski's wierdo porn at work thing.  https://theintercept.com/2018/09/17/cyrus-sanai-federal-court-employees-...

Feinstein be playing god mang, dump that bitch.

>>Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley has been forced to postpone a vote scheduled for Thursday on Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination because Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake finally made himself useful by demanding the committee examine the allegations by Christine Blasey Ford that Kavanaugh attacked her when they were in high school. Grassley has scheduled a hearing for Monday in response, reportedly with just two witnesses: Kavanaugh and Ford. Except that he didn't bother to contact Ford before he scheduled it.

If you think this was just some mistake by Grassley, or a mere oversight, think again. He's setting a narrative, which he made abundantly clear Tuesday morning in an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. That Ford hasn't yet been able to commit to that date, Grassley says, "kind of raises the question, do they want to come to the public hearing or not."

Fellow Republican and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham piped up to prove yet again with proof that he buried anything resembling his principles with his good friend John McCain. "She can come if she likes, but if she doesn't want to, she doesn't have to," Graham said on Fox News, proving that they're only asking her to testify because they have to—not because they care about what happened to her.

Republicans don't want a real public hearing, and Grassley and Trump have proved it by not directing an actual investigation into the matter by the FBI. As California Sen. Dianne Feinstein says, "it's impossible to take this process seriously." She points out that Grassley has invited just two witnesses, compared to the 22 witnesses at the Anita Hill hearing in 1991, which took three days. "What about other witnesses like Kavanaugh's friend Mark Judge," the alleged accomplice in that attack. "What about individuals who were previously told about this incident? What about experts who can speak to the effects of this kind of trauma on a victim?"

None of that matters to Republicans. Grassley is merely going through the motions, and doing so in as politicized a manner as he possibly can. If getting to the truth was at issue at all here, Kavanaugh's nomination would already be history because of his serial perjuries.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/18/1796643/-Grassley-playing-pol...

>Brett Kavanaugh talking about his high school in 2015: “What happens at Georgetown Prep, stays at Georgetown Prep.”

No so fast..

The crazy thing is that this attempted rape allegation probably isn't nearly as bad as what Trump, Kavanaugh, and their allies seem to be trying to hide in unprecedented fashion during this whole process.

Let that thought sink in a little...

Good on Ford for asking for a full investigation...

right, anyone who thinks all of this smoke and mirror diversion isnt started by Trump himself isnt looking close enough. He has the media focused exactly where he wants them. pure genius, really

>>>>He has the media focused exactly where he wants them. pure genius, really

For what its worth, that is exactly what Michael Moore has been saying recently.  He even suspects that it was Trump himself or someone working with him that penned the anonymous NYT op ed.  

I could see that, itd be right out of his playbook for sure

She’s gone into hiding after receiving numerous death threats. Guess that means the FBI will NOW have to investigate. 

The Over-Under:

Kavanaugh will be thrown under the bus over the weekend.

The recent accusations aside, F him for the hypocritical partisan hack he is.

Has apparently perjured himself before Congress numerous times dating back to 02/04/06? That alone should be grounds for disbarment? Jail? Certainly the removal of the candidate to the highest office in the land.

The "right's" goal is to take of the courts nation wide with far right idelogues.

“Cut Bait”: As the Kavanaugh Nightmare Escalates, Trump Is Gripped with Uncertainty as Ivanka Suggests Cutting the Judge Loose

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/kavanaugh-allegations-trump-ivanka

Can’t they nominate a different conservative judge or is the upcoming mid-term election factoring in? Is this a race against time before Election Day? 

I read that Merrick Garland was praised a few times during the hearings maybe they should give him a shot. 

White House has been gettin the FBI some work recently.

the jerkbag dems are fine with any other candidate put forward by that bastion of democratic values, the federalist soceity....

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/01/ho...

Why doesn't the FBI give him a polygraph. The Ford lady took one. Serious question

Polygraphs aren't really accurate, and are not admissible in court for that reason (not that this is court, but an illustration of them being unreliable). For instance, a psychopath like Trump would probably pass.  There are even people who do seminars in how to fool them.

I don't blame Ford for not wanting to testify, but I also can see that when someone comes in with an accusation 30 years later there needs to be some serious examination.  I mean, it is possible that they were ALL drunk and perceive the event differently.  I know that I look back on some things when I was young and now I can say "Wow, that shit was fucked up" when at the time it was just part of how it was. Maybe the other person doesn't remember it at all.  However, I sense a lack of candor by Kavanaugh on a number of issues, so his denial doesn't hold a lot of weight with me.

I'm really annoyed with Feinstein.  By holding this until the last second she set this poor woman up to have to make a snap decision about testifying while leaving the door wide open for the GOP to complain this is last minute shenanigans and try to push this through.  I mean, there was NO WAY they were going to toss the nomination without a full vetting of the allegations and her identity would eventually be revealed.  I feel like she has outted this poor woman for nothing.  And if Ford doesn't show on Monday, then the GOP has the perfect excuse to go forward.  I don't blame her if she doesn't but I think it's better for everyone if she does.  Ugh, what a mess.

^That's why 17 year-olds are not considered adults.  Well, unless they want to join the military to kill people and blow up stuff. 

Regarding the timing of the allegations: didn't the alleged victim want to hold off so she wouldn't have to come forward if K nomination wasn't successful?

Makes total sense that she didn’t want to come forward unless absolutely necessary. Have you seen the backlash? She’s had to flee her home with her family because of Death threats. Another classmate also came forward to say she was a witness and immediately began getting harassed and receiving death threats. 

What it sounds like is that if the existence of the letter had not been leaked to the press, that Feinstein would have kept this a secret and not told anyone there was a possible attempted rapist on the Supreme Court.  But then when it got leaked she rushed to reveal it without running it through Ford.  She says she can't remember whether she even spoke to Ford after she got the letter, which raises a whole other set of issues about our 85 year old Senator who is running for another term. She didn't even ask any oblique questions at the hearings which would have allowed dem investigators to get a handle on whether either K or F were straight up fabricating, or box K into giving answers that can be checked out later.

The reality is that if Ford sends a letter and it dies in a Senator's office, she might as well not have bothered. Feinstein should have met with her and explained that and tried to come up with some solution, whether it was asking at the hearing, coming out with it earlier, or never revealing it at all if that's what she wanted. They could have agreed that it would be released at some reasonable time if the nomination was still viable.  They could have tried to arrange for private bipartisan questioning--her identity would still have come out but she might have avoided the public spectacle. By waiting until the last minute it just seems to have been handled the worst way possible--sucks for Ford, who is getting death threats and understandably does not wish to testify, and gives the GOP an easy way out of this.  And worst of all, if she doesn't show this guy may end up in the Supreme Court with a giant asterisk, which completely erodes the integrity of this once-august body.  I can only hope that this concern causes the GOP to pause on this but in this climate I doubt it.  Let's just say that even if you give Feinstein a pass for the difficult situation, the way it was handled led to a terrible situation for everyone now.

Well, integrity went put the window when Clarence Thomas was seated on the Court  even though there were credible allegations of sexual harassment. And the fact that the GOP never even gave Merrick Garland a hearing

Funny how the GOP conversation is changing now and instead of saying they believe Kavanaugh they’re crying about that it’s not fair to hold someone accountable for teenager  behavior. Even though Kavanaugh continues to deny it ever happened.

>>>>Makes total sense that she didn’t want to come forward unless absolutely necessary

It was absolutely necessary a couple of weeks ago. Or she could have said "No, I never want it revealed", which I understand, but then why send the letter at all. Maybe she had faith that Feinstein could do something with it behind the scenes that would have resolved this while preserving anonymity, but Diane wasn't able to do that.

I'm so over Feinstein.  Not just for this, her time is done, take your pearls and give someone else a chance.

One thing is for sure, during the trump presidency people now believe they know a profound amount about he political system, regardless of whether they do or not 

Thomas was accused of making a lame joke about pubic hair, not attempted rape. Even by today's standards that's a pretty big difference, even given K's youth at the time (which I agree could be a mitigating factor).

>>> it’s not fair to hold someone accountable for teenager  behavior. Even though Kavanaugh continues to deny it ever happened.

I can see that depending on the circumstances and if the person has insight and made changes, but that raises the concern about whether he is lying about it now.

he’s boxed himself into a corner with his lies.

Then again, it’s worked for him in the past and the GOP don’t seem to care if he’s lying or not.

Can they give him a sobriety test?

>>>>Kavanaugh continues to deny it ever happened.

I was wondering what would have happened if he fessed up to it and made a humble and sincere apology.   Guess its too late for that now.

What you say makes sense to me, Alias.

I'm still not sure whom I'm going to vote for regarding the Senate seat.

I will readily admit to a little ageism when it comes to 85 year olds running for new terms of office. I'm a bad person.

The crazy thing is that this attempted rape allegation probably isn't nearly as bad as what Trump, Kavanaugh, and their allies seem to be trying to hide in unprecedented fashion during this whole process<<<

The mere fact that the Senate is even considering a nomination from Trump at this point is by far and way the "worst" part of any of this, IMO.

I don't even know where to begin, but the most pressing concern is national security and the nation being on one giant "ghost ride" - if not in the pocket of Putin.  The GOP in Congress have essentially allowed Trump to carry on in office unchecked; with him serving as an "institutional placeholder" to further their agendas and retain power.   It will only be a matter of time before a significant violent conflict somewhere on this planet will be attributed to the current situation & IMO the GOP who've abdicated their oversight duty ought to receive the brunt of the blame if they've abandoned the proper means to achieve an end such as SCOTUS.  

What do you do after you blame them?

false sense of moral superiority?

What do you do after you blame them?<<<

McConnell should be flayed.  Literally.

History (if we make it) will illuminate the severity of the Senate's dereliction of duty; and the extent to which they've exposed our nation to harm.

How long can the GOP in the Senate continue to pretend "all is well" in the Oval Office and not receive severe political backlash?  This is the scary part ... since they're kind of backing themselves into a corner to be forced to keep doubling down along with Trump.

false sense of moral superiority?<<<

I hold absolutely zero moral judgment.

Yet I will fight for truth & the rule of law; even if it means being pitted against those I would otherwise never would confront.

>>>>>How long can the GOP in the Senate continue to pretend "all is well" in the Oval Office and not receive severe political backlash? 

As long as they win elections? 

>I'm so over Feinstein.  Not just for this, her time is done, take your pearls and give someone else a chance.<

this

remember when mcconnell said if hillary won they would indefinitely postpone supreme court hearings?

i mean, how do these people look themselves in the mirror? 

how are millions of dipshit americans brainwashed into thinking any of this is ok?

^This.  "sad"

Hiccup...NYT breaking news 

Ford negotiating terms for Monday senate hearing

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/20/us/politics/brett-kavanaugh-christine...

Hiccup...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dean-heller-kavanaugh-hiccup_us_5ba...

#HellerHiccupFuckYouToWomen

IMO: Anyone who has an average sense of reason should conclude that the person who calls for an investigation has nothing to hide, while the person who is against such an investigation is afraid of what may be revealed. 

Am I wrong to believe this logical conclusion?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/accuser-s-schoolmate-says...

Buckle Up

Michael Avenatti✔@MichaelAvenatti

All indications are that Dr. Ford is not alone. Buckle up - that includes you Mark Judge. #Basta

5:09 PM - Sep 22, 2018

gnarly cartoon.

Heard that Kavanaugh ​supporters were doing back round investigations into Dr. Blasey Ford before her allegations were made public. Things that make you go Hmmmm.

- Kavi if put on the court could be blackmailed by idiot friend Mark Judge or people who knew.

- I wonder what (D) Feinstein got to sit on this Dr. Ford letter? I bet it's something on Defense knowing Republicans and her.

trump/GOP are guilty of  Witness tampering... obstruction of justice.

Follow the $130,000

Frat boy SCOTUS for a generation. Women will be fucking hiding at the Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh office parties. 

Is that a world you want??????????????????????????????????????????????

Kavanaugh's college photos starting to appear online.

BREAKING: Trump Asks for That List of Other Rich White Male Judges Who Promised to Acquit Him   -Andy Borowitz

bye bye Kavi...

Second Woman Accuses Brett Kavanaugh Of Sexual Misconduct In New Yorker Bombshell

The Supreme Court nominee denied the latest allegation, calling it a “smear, plain and simple.”

By Nick Visser

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-yorker-deborah-ramirez-brett-ka...

Kauvanaugh has a calendar from that time period and it's  clearly is missing any notation of him getting drunk and wavying his willy in her face.  See, say the GOP, it never happened

is that the douche crew i keep hearing about?

Kavanaugh Annoyed That He Has to Write Up a Whole New 1983 Calendar Now   -Andy Borowitz

Probably didn’t put gang rape on his calendar either.

As long as the biggest fucktard in US history is president (trump, BABY BOOMER), 

All arguments against Gen X are invalidated.

next!

That's just silly - he's one guy.

Walks outs planned for Monday 10 am  PT,  1 pm eastern 

just back from a vigil along El Camino in Palo Alto in support of Christine. 

Kava NO!

I think Kavanaugh is done for, another accuser and his yearbook “FFFFFFFourth of July”... I doubt he can survive a hearing now.

As usual, Bob Dylan said it best.....

"They all fall there so perfectly
It all seems so well timed"

... I doubt he can survive a hearing now<<<<

Perhaps you're giving the Senate too much credit for being fair and sober?

there you go, interject for the culture of misogyny and abuse.

this guy also thinks birth control is an abortifacient...

thom what’s your daughter say/feel about all this? 

fuckin trash. 

This Avenatti character sure seems sketchy.

>>>It all seems so well timed

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez

Kavanaugh and his supporters are pure evil. The hubris of these racist rapist is staggering. Did you really think no one was going to find out about your frat days in "tit & clit"? These maroons truly believe they are above the laws of human decency. 

Thom, so Bob Dylan considered the bricks to be victims of sexual assault and the neon madmen were the abusers???

Very interesting...

It's rape now?

Fraternities and the whole Greek bullshit has no place in modern American academia...

^But.....what about Make America Great Again?!

More Americans Galvanized Against Trump than for him - MAGA

Fourth Kavanaugh Accuser Comes Forward, Is Speaking to Authorities in Maryland: Report

The floodgates are opening.

By Matthew Chapman / AlterNet

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/brett-kavanaugh-fourth-accuse...

Women Walk Out Across The Country In Support Of Kavanaugh’s Accusers

#BelieveSurvivors.

By Andy Campbell, Emma Gray, and Laura Bassett

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/women-walk-out-in-support-of-kavana...

No. 4

and Kauvanaugh stated today that will will not be withdrawing. Which means we can expect him to drop out any day now... 

>>>It's rape now?

I was just wondering the same thing catching up on this thread.

Has Kavanuagh been accused of rape now?

Three?

Mitch McConnell speaking about situation.

Your despicable Mitch!

I know.  Can he just die already?

>>>It's rape now?

Maybe that word is being spread because of this:

Avenatti’s response to the email was also included in the photo, to which he told Davis that he is “aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s, during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them.”

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/408028-avenatti-calls-...

hysteria

Avenatti? Sure, that seems credible. jesus

You guys gotta admit that Trump could've selected a similar candidate who would have been appointed much more easily. 

"You reap what you sow."

>Avenatti? Sure, that seems credible.

 he’s been able to back up all of his previous claims, what makes you so sure that he’s not credible this time?

Feel free  to point to anything he’s said that makes you question his credibility. Well, not anything from Infowars or Breitbart.

god damn.

what "man" even thinks any of this is ok?

trains?

fucking disgusting.

the FUCK is wrong with people?

hounder is a conservative...? this makes total sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gG0-6Ntx7w

>>>>Trump could've selected a similar candidate who would have been appointed much more easily. 

That's why I am starting to think that they still might pull Kavanaugh.  Sure they can plow his nomination through (assuming Collins, Murkowski, or some other GOP senators don't break rank), but the optics will be stomach turning and it will come with a large political price.  

I know they want to get him on the bench before the start of the Supreme Court session next week.  However, the only thing they have to loose by pulling Kavanaugh and replacing him with the next conservative jurist on the list would be 4-4 decisions on whatever cases go before the court before the lame duck Congress votes on the replacement nomination, which they have still have time to do before the new congress takes their seats in January . 

Yale Law Students against Kavanaugh https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/09/24/yale-law-students-si...

Actual concrete proof?

Actual concrete proof of what, hillman?

>Actual concrete proof?<

what would that be? video or photographic evidence?

DNA?

why would a successful DR. who did not want to come out publicly do so? while risking her career and frankly her whole family's saftey? what does she have to gain?

anything besides innuendo, accusations & hysteria? is the dr the second woman with accusations? nyt couldn't get corroboration on the claims

The Times interviewed dozens to corroborate 2nd allegation against Kavanaugh and could find no one with firsthand knowledge. Ramirez told ex-classmates she couldn’t be certain Kavanaugh was the one who exposed himself. ⁦@SherylNYT⁩ ⁦@npfandos⁩ https://t.co/lGVc4hJzEU

so the one making the accusation isn't even able to confirm it was kavanaugh. he must have done it.

These are serious charges. Kavanaugh   needs to testify under oath and be truthful with the FBI background  investigation. Its really not that much to ask for a lifetime appointment.

Hell, Ronnie's pick, Ginsburg, stepped down for smoking cannabis.  Im sure most feel alcohol and sexual abuse are as bad as puffing the reefer.

The Republicans will still get someone on the bench to screw over the American  public they just need to put up the show first, so it at least look legitimate.

>>> anything besides innuendo, accusations & hysteria?

this is why women are reluctant to report abuse.

So out of 325.7 million USA residents, the GOP is proposing that THIS GUY becomes 1 of 9 lifetime members of our highest court?!

Think about that for a second...

he was sailing right thru (except for the histrionics bull) until feinstein pulled this shit. she didn't even have a clue that her chauffer (that just seems wrong on so many levels) was a friggin' chinese spy for cryin' out loud. sorry, if he did it fry him. but just because unverified, uncorroborated & unsubstantiated stories have been tossed out, i ain't buying it. and sleazy avenatti doesn't help.

TAPPER: "We now have 4 individuals who have come forward who were named by Professor Ford...and all 4...have all said they don't remember anything like this ever happened."

GRANTHOLM (I think}: "Right. And that actually corroborates Ford's story..."

>>>> if he did it fry him. but just because unverified, uncorroborated & unsubstantiated stories

I agree with Hillman.  The FBI should investigate the claims.

"Who is the more foolish?  The fool who gets paid by the porn star?  Or the fool who pays the porn star $130,000?"

i don't think kavanaugh paid any porn star. and just because trump nominated him doesn't mean you need to project trump hate against kavanaugh.

damn how things have changed:

i don't like or agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it. not any longer

innocent until proven guilty. not any longer.

and trump didn't change those ideas.

Sorry, hillman.  I was just trying to be funny (and failed, apparently).

Kavanaugh still is innocent until proven guilty.

If the GOP judicial committee members play their cards right (including having a trustworthy investigation, or at least one which will satisfy all GOP senators) and Kavanaugh comes out clean, they still have the power to ram this nomination through.

>>> i don't like or agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it. not any longer

is this in regards to "there are fine people on both sides"?

>>> innocent until proven guilty. not any longer.

seems like they don't want to find out if he's innocent or guilty.

Hillman, would you like Kavanaugh to become a supreme court justice?

nevermind, i don't care

Guy makes me dislike baseball.

It seems only prudent to have the FBI investigate, as Dr. Basey Ford has suggested, before continuing on Kavanaugh's appointment. Having FBI findings would seem to clarify things.

sorry johnny, thought you were being funny but you went all caps & extra large font, it's a highly charged subject, so i wasn't sure.

liquid i don't really care if he becomes a justice or not. if he is successful i don't think roe v wade is going to be overturned, which seems to be where all the angst is centered.

fbi say they are not investigating it. at this point i don't even know if i could even believe them

is this in regards to "there are fine people on both sides"?<<<<

For those who may seek to "compartmentalize" any given current issue / event:   the reality of the situation: it's all part of the same thing IMO.

The troubling part for me are the precedents that might be necessary to be inadvertently set in order to both mitigate and remove a clear and present danger from the Office of the POTUS.

I am very much an idealist, but also have sufficient understanding of pragmatism to know that sometimes compromising the former is required.

>>>innocent until proven guilty. not any longer.

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand. I guess it is because Fox and Friends have an agenda to confuse people on this issue. Kavanaugh is not on trial. He is not going to jail. He won't loose his current job, and life will go on for him. The only thing that will change is that he won't get one the most coveted jobs in the world with life time powers to make his view point the final law of the land for decades to come. There is no innocent until proven guilty when you apply for that job. The standard is that there shouldn't be a hint of scandal, because for that job you get to choose only the very best people. He doesn't come close to passing that standard.

Oh yeah and this is an equally ridiculous thing to say because the accuser has asked for a full investigation and Kavanaugh and his gang of old men have said there is no need for and investigation.

there is no presumption that he didn't do anything wrong. "innocent until proven guilty" to me is just a phrase that best exemplifies his situation and isn't meant to be a legal declaration with potential for incarceration or other punishment. "tried in the court of public opinion" is another. ymmv

" The standard is that there shouldn't be a hint of scandal, because for that job you get to choose only the very best people."

so i guess all the liberal leaning justices didn't have even a hint of scandal & all the conservative justices did. guess rachel maddow has an agenda also.

there is nothing preventing the fbi from re-opening the investigation, even a gang of old men not wanting it to be re-opened 

Do you like baseball, Hill?

 Have you guys read his yearbook page yet? POS 

 not terribly impressive and to be honest I'm a liberal are almost A hippie and I've always hated fraternities 

but I guess it's a good path if you want to go to Wall Street or be in government or a big puffy's CEO

 We have to change the law and have 18 year terms for the justices 

 If only to have justice and slightly depoliticize the process 

Republicans and Democrats always both the opposite on many issues and it's kind of scary

Meant to say  always VOTE along party lines

How many of you oppose the right to abort a fetus?

How many do you think that Christians usually act "Christian "?

Hello

how many of you think Trump is "Christian "?

His daughter is Jewish.

"Renate Alumni"

 what does his daughters religion have to do with whether Trump is a Christian or not?

What does chistianity or Judaism have to do with this discussion?

"I'm an independent."  - hillman. 

“You need a date / and it’s getting late / so don’t hesitate / to call Renate.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/business/brett-kavanaugh-yearbook-renate.html

I've been keeping an eye on the porn lawyer's Twitter feed today, but so far the big revelation hasn't been dropped yet.

He did post a few hours ago about getting the head of a private elementary school suspended for trolling him on Twitter.

Dude is frying some pretty big fish, no doubt.

As a bigot ii don't think many of the far right who calls themselves  a Christian act "Christian "

love one another, be kind.  Accept others Be forgiving be humble 

what say you?

what ? does the discussion or concept offend you?

fake Christian's 

I predict that within 24 hours Kananaugh will withdraw from consideration , citing an unjust  ‘witch hunt’ and the obligatory need to spend more time with family. 

Or he’ll just drink himself to death  - leaving Las Vegas style 

~yeah, that’s how I’d script it anyway

I saw that Big b, ha ha . 

Who are the real Christians?

Yeah that"s right folks, I'm a conservative. In other news, accusations are now proof. Fry him!

In still other news, conservatives patriotically defend rapists and rape culture. Don't fry him, just cast him aside and find an actual honorable justice. Maybe that Merrick Garland fellow perhaps?

<<<<<How many do you think that Christians usually act "Christian "?>>>>>

I was thinking about that on Sunday when a late to church goer was honking at me for taking too long at a stop sign. 

Yeah that"s right folks, I'm a conservative. In other news, accusations are now proof. Fry him!

In still other news, conservatives patriotically defend rapists and rape culture. Don't fry him, just cast him aside and find an actual honorable justice. Maybe that Merrick Garland fellow perhaps?

In still other news, generalizations are still the bane of critical thinking. 

In still more other news - one might address a generalization by asserting a generalization in response - it's sometimes thought of as parody.

it’s incredible people still support this piece of shit. 

says a lot about you. 

Kavanaugh is a weasel. True fact.

He has Cryottes old school LEGO haircut.

>>>so i guess all the liberal leaning justices didn't have even a hint of scandal & all the conservative justices did.

There are plenty of justices that don't have a hint of scandal on both sides. Kavanaugh is just another example of the scorched earth approach to politics adopted by Republicans. Never retreat, never surrender. Also they are kind of between a rock and a hard place since it is hard to dump Kavanaugh for doing the same thing that the pussy grabber President admitted doing on tape. 

>>>guess rachel maddow has an agenda also.

Nope big difference Rachel is biased as are all people. Fox has an agenda which you can easily see with their revolving door employment policy with the Republican party. At least half the people running for President on the Republican side are auditioning for a job with Fox. Then they mix that agenda with WWE entertainment value where everything is boiled down to a simple plot of villains and heroes. 

Porn Lawyer and 2020 Presidential hopeful Michael Avenatti has inexplicably locked his Twitter account this morning.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/25/looks-bad-after-spending-days-b...

Stu is an embarrassment to viva.  He would fit right in at the reject zone.

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