Sweden seems to have reached herd immunity. No lock downs, no shut downs of businesses and no masks. They received a lot of bad publicity for their decision earlier on by the media but it seems that they knew what they were doing. Have the lockdowns and face coverings actually helped as much as we think in preventing the spread or is it just smoke and mirrors? As the case toll and death toll keeps rising one wonders what and if we actually prevented the spread at all here in the states. I'm honestly just wondering what other people think. I kinda think we're 50% right and 50% wrong.
This isn't any kind of political thread either so please keep the politics to the 1000 other threads about politics, thanks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:27 pm
Don't fall off the fence.
Don't fall off the fence.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:30 pm
>>>"By all accounts, Sweden’s
"By all accounts, Sweden’s high rate of coronavirus deaths was evidence that the country had made a horrendous error. Sweden – which did not impose a strict lockdown – suffered 543 deaths per million of its population, compared to just 105 in neighboring Denmark. The Swedish death toll has been roughly 11 times worse than Norway’s, on a per capita basis."
https://www.businessinsider.nl/sweden-coronavirus-cases-deaths-fall-not-...
Hmmmm, I don't know.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:30 pm
>>>"By all accounts, Sweden’s
...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:33 pm
What's your source? The story
What's your source? The story I read on Reuters says that positive tests in Sweden last week were 1.2%, which is low, but it's not zero.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:34 pm
Sweden's population is roughly twice that of their neighbor, Finland. Compared to Finland, Sweden has 10 times the number of cases and 17 times the number of dead.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:38 pm
Well, we'll see in a few
Well, we'll see in a few months. If the rates drop of dramatically, in the states like Texas, Florida, Alabama, etc, where they are currently through the roof, then I guess we'll know.
Meanwhile, here in VT we have the lowest rates in the country. People take mask-wearing seriously. I'd say that there's a direct correlation.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:44 pm
Strange, I was looking at
Strange, I was looking at google and it said September 10 0 cases on the graph the. I just checked back and it says 200 for September. Very odd. Looking at the graph they have been on a steady downward trend and have not seen any spikes since the initial one. Seems that they are doing ok right now.
but yes to clarify that intial post of zero was wrong. 200 new cases in September 10
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:45 pm
Sweden's per capita death
Sweden's per capita death rate so far is the tenth highest in the world:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide...
Belgium, Spain, Italy, and the UK are the only European countries with a higher per capita death rate. The US and several countries in South America round out the top 10.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:46 pm
^All of those countries you
^All of those countries you just named imposed lockdowns and mask mandates. So did they make the wrong decision?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:52 pm
For a nuanced understanding,
For a nuanced understanding, I think you need to take into account the timing of the mandates, and not just whether they were issued or not.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:56 pm
Nuanced understanding be
Nuanced understanding be damned!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 05:57 pm
I agree. I also think that's
I agree. I also think that's why comparison to Finland aren't really viable seeing that Finland never really had any true spike at all. Looking at England's graph it seems they are now trending back up in every category since their imposed lockdowns and mandates. So I guess that means since they are started to reopen now things are going up but if they never imposed lockdowns and mask mandates would they have also been trending towards zero and about to reach herd immunity?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:01 pm
Has herd immunity really been
Has herd immunity really been verified for COVID?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:05 pm
They had 200 new cases just
They had 200 new cases just yesterday and 314 cases on the 9th, 239 on the 8th, etc. Way more than 200 cases in Sept.
Also their antibody rate is 17% so a long long way from herd immunity.
>>>>>>Has herd immunity really been verified for COVID?
No and because the disease mutates the only way we'll likely achieve herd immunity is through mass vaccination of the population.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:09 pm
With no deaths since August
With no deaths since August 24th, Sweden has a good claim that they are closed to reaching it. In New Jersey they have been treating people and getting them out of hospitals quicker which means most like the virus could be getting weaker.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:11 pm
Sweden has had 11 COVID
Sweden has had 11 COVID deaths in September. Are you just making up stats?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:13 pm
That Reuters article
That Reuters article mentioned that Sweden did a record number of tests of coronavirus tests last week. More testing likely means that people are receiving treatment sooner, and that could explain why they're getting out of hospitals sooner.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:18 pm
Timpane is wrong again? Man,
Timpane wrong again? Man, I was rooting for him to be right this time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:21 pm
No, actually my phone is just
No, actually my phone is just broken and when I was scrolling through the death numbers on google they all said zeros. Looks they have gone a few days with no deaths. Looks like they're doing pretty good
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:23 pm
If 11 most deaths per capita
If 11 most deaths per capita is good, then I guess so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:24 pm
at least they have health
at least they have health care...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:26 pm
true. america: if you can't
true. america: if you can't pay for it then you don't deserve to have it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:28 pm
They're doing better than
They're doing better than places that imposed lockdowns and masks. nobody looks at the real number of deaths but they are under 6k. They didn't have to destroy their economy to do it. Does that matter?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:33 pm
Yeah, and if you kill off the
Yeah, and if you kill off the old and sick, you save a ton on healthcare costs over the next decade or so.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:36 pm
So when are you moving to
So when are you moving to Sweden
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:37 pm
^^Looks like we are gonna
^^Looks like we are gonna have a shitload of healthcare costs and a fucked up economy for the next decade then.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:38 pm
Did lockdowns and masks save
Did lockdowns and masks save the old and sick in USA, BK?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:39 pm
A problem with this kind of
A problem with this kind of speculation is that it's really not possible to precisely define a phenomenon that's still underway. Historians will write the fullest story of COVID-19, and all we can do is guess about it while it's happening.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:44 pm
I wouldn't call this a
I wouldn't call this a phenomenon. There has been pestilence since the beginning of mankind. Everytime we have gone through and not understood it and obviously hindsight is 20/20 but there is no phenomenon here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:46 pm
A phenomenon is just
A phenomenon is just something that happens.
https://www.google.com/search?q=phenomenon
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 06:52 pm
>>>>>They didn't have to
>>>>>They didn't have to destroy their economy to do it.
Sweden's economy is doing worse than it's neighboring countries and had its biggest GDP drop since 1980. I think your phones still broken.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-sweden-gdp-falls-8pc-in-q2-w...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:02 pm
Whatever their economic
Whatever their economic crisis is, it was not self imposed like I Said. There were people here who were actually forced to close their doors, Timmy
except Amazon and Walmart
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:08 pm
lol
lol
That's a weird way of saying you were wrong.
>>>>>better than places that imposed lockdowns and masks
Sure but the poverty levels in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Chile are way more extreme than Sweden so that's not really a great comparison and The USA never had any National lockdown or even a strategy either.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:12 pm
>> Have the lockdowns and
>> Have the lockdowns and face coverings actually helped as much as we think in preventing the spread or is it just smoke and mirrors? <<
You mean like using inaccurate and misleading stats?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:13 pm
They knew that masks help
They knew that masks help prevent the spread of airborne diseases in 1918. It's a shame our country ignored the obvious and told States to do whatever they wanted and actively encouraged people to not wear masks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:14 pm
Timpy isn't wrong, his phone
Timpy isn't wrong, his phone is broken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:15 pm
How bout England and Belgium
How bout England and Belgium and Spain Timmy? And yeah you can taking what I said out of context and providing horrible articles m. I get it you think wearing mask and lockdowns have done something but you can't admit that Sweden had any success. Is it just stubbornness?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:17 pm
Timmy, take a look at the
Timmy, take a look at the statistics of the Spanish influenza. Mask didn't prevent anything at all. They haven't been used since, not during any other outbreak or pandemic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:18 pm
The Inuit tribes in Canadat
The Inuit tribes in Canada have very low cases/deaths.
What's the commonality with Sweden? They both aren't on the way to anywhere. Transient velocity/volume matter.
On First Nations reserves in provinces, as of September 10, ISC is aware of:
491 confirmed positive COVID-19
42 hospitalizations
429 recovered cases
9 deaths
Case numbers per region:
British Columbia: 85
Alberta: 204
Saskatchewan: 92
Manitoba: 1
Ontario: 64
Quebec: 44
Provincial chief public health officers work with ISC's regional medical officers and nurses to provide medical support as needed when a positive case is reported.
As of July 31:
The percentage of First Nations individuals living on reserve reported positive for COVID-19 is currently one-quarter the rate of the general Canadian population
The COVID-19 case fatality rate for First Nations individuals living on reserve is about one-fifth that of the fatality rate in the general Canadian population
More than 80% of those testing positive for COVID-19 have recovered
First Nations communities are flattening the curve
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:19 pm
I get that people want to
I get that people want to compare coronavirus to the Spanish influenza because they can't get out of their bubble of fear but there's really no comparison at all in deaths or cases.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:19 pm
>> They haven't been used
>> They haven't been used since, not during any other outbreak or pandemic. <<
You're kidding, right? SARS had all of eastern Asia in masks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:21 pm
Every pandemic affects the
Every pandemic affects the poor way more than everyone else. They are the ones working the "essential" jobs at gas stations, convenience stores, grocery stores, etc. They also tend to live with more people. So, you have 5 people in an apartment, and each one goes to a job with a lot of human contact. So much for social distancing. When you're living day to day, you don't have the luxury of doing 2 weeks worth of grocery shopping and you go out more often. The poorest parts of NYC were hit the hardest.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:22 pm
Wrong, Ned. Mask were worn by
Wrong, Ned. Mask were worn by sick people. Same in hospitals pre Covid. They were for patients who were ill.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:23 pm
>>>>They haven't been used
>>>>They haven't been used since
Wrong again.
Tell that to every Asian country, or doctor in a hospital.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:24 pm
>>>>>They haven't been used
>>>>>They haven't been used since
Yes and with this disease being spread by asymptomatic people wearing a mask is a great precaution to slow the spread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:24 pm
So what we’re all saying is
So what we’re all saying is that we really haven’t an actual clue if anything worked and that the internet has just given us the ability to find a statistic or article to support any claim we wish to believe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:26 pm
>>>>Timmy, take a look at the
>>>>Timmy, take a look at the statistics of the Spanish influenza. Mask didn't prevent anything at all.
Because they were not used widely and well enough to make much of a difference.
https://update.lib.berkeley.edu/2020/05/23/did-masks-work-the-1918-flu-p...
Anything else you need me to fact check?
>>>>>>>>I get that people want to compare coronavirus to the Spanish influenza because they can't get out of their bubble of fear but there's really no comparison at all in deaths or cases.
Well we've had a few advances in medicine in the last hundred years.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:27 pm
Masks haven't protected the
Masks haven't protected the elderly or people with pre existing conditions and it didn't stop the spread in places like nyc or New Jersey. I live in New Jersey. People are wearing masks everywhere since our lockdown and it's still spreading.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:28 pm
That's a hypothetical, Timmy
That's a hypothetical, Timmy and it no way does that mean they were effective at that time. It doesn't prove anything and is just an opinion that isn't based on any facts or evidence.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:32 pm
Masks are just something that
Masks are just something that people are making a money grab off of right now, IMO. If it's not an N95 mask then it's utterly worthless a far as real protection and it's "preventiveness" is very inconsistent.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:33 pm
>>>>>>it didn't stop the
>>>>>>it didn't stop the spread in places like nyc or New Jersey.
really? New Jersey started mandated mask wearing in mid April
Here's the stats in case your phone is still broken
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:35 pm
Anybody really think bandanas
Anybody really think bandanas are preventing or protecting you from anything?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:37 pm
>>>>>Mask were worn by sick
>>>>>Mask were worn by sick people. Same in hospitals pre Covid. They were for patients who were ill.
So the doctors operating on people are ill themselves?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:38 pm
Let me ask you this, Timpane:
Let me ask you this, Timpane: if I put you in a 5x5 glass box with a COVID positive dude, and you had the choice of putting on a 2-ply poly-cotton mask or no mask at all, what would you choose to do?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:45 pm
500 cases in NJ today .
500 cases in NJ today . Jerseyland death per capita worse than Sweden.
Doesn't look like it's any more effective than Sweden.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:49 pm
That's why they are called
That's why they are called "patient masks", Timmy. Doctors should be wearing N95 masks when operating on sick patients
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:53 pm
I would wear an N99 mask, BK.
I would wear an N99 mask, BK. They are rated highest to protect from viruses.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:58 pm
>>>>Jerseyland death per
>>>>Jerseyland death per capita worse than Sweden.
Worse than every country in Europe. Every country in Europe had a national strategy. We're the only country to not have one and people move freely from state to state.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 07:59 pm
> Timpy isn't wrong, his
> Timpy isn't wrong, his phone is broken.
His phone has been broken for a while, I'd say.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:12 pm
That's not a choice, Timpane.
That's not a choice, Timpane. Poly-cotton or none? Based on what you've been saying, I'm gathering that you'd go bare back.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:16 pm
When looming at all the new
When looming at all the new positive tests, it's really important to look at the demographics. Sure, there may be 500 new cases today in NJ, but where were they? How many of those were college students, who we know are less likely to wear masks and follow protocols? How many were in people who wear masks, maintain physical distance, and give a shit?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:21 pm
But nuances are hard, BK.
But nuances are hard, BK. Oversimplification of a complex situation is a much easier way to go.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:27 pm
Nuances aren't that hard, as
Nuances aren't that hard, as long as the flip phone isn't broken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:41 pm
https://vivalazone.org
https://vivalazone.org/comment/286951#comment-286951
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:47 pm
I've said it before and i'll
I've said it before and i'll say it again: The far left has much more in common with the far right then they do with me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:49 pm
I offer a different take on
I offer a different take on the subject, Timmy. I think the CDC is partially wrong and they just will never admit that. I also think that the government was wrong to shut down businesses as well. Since there
so BK, since I know that a regular cloth mask does nothing as far as protection the only reason to wear it is because of fear so why bother? Either IMO would get sick or I wouldn't.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:52 pm
>>>>I offer a different take
>>>>I offer a different take on the subject, Timmy.
lol
I'll say. A wrong one complete with false statistics.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:55 pm
Nice job of memorialization
> https://vivalazone.org/comment/286951#comment-286951
Nice job of memorialization there, Hoover, and one of the slickest thread bumps I've seen in a while.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 08:57 pm
I like your unique take on
I like your unique take on the "anti mask" thing. You're just anti anything that's not at least N 95.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 09:38 pm
Timmy, youve been wrong about
Timmy, youve been wrong about a lot more things on this thread than I have. You really think that a picture of guys wearing a mask in 1918 provides evidence that they prevent the spread of a pandemic. Sweden's strategy was effective. It wasn't perfect but they have didnt have to destroy small businesses and give wall st 4 tril. You can go back to wearing your bandana now. You're a truly saving someone's life lol.
You still have failed miserably in providing any real evidence that masks have reduced the spread of Covid.
the lockdowns were about money. Masks are about money. Nobody cares about your health and your an idiot if you think that the government does.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 10:28 pm
Lol
Lol
yep it's all a hoax from big mask to make money. I never said masks were effective at stopping the Spanish Flu, I said they understood masks could slow transmission and posted a link to a study saying that didn't work because not enough people did wear one among many other reasons.
You on the other hand have been incorrect in almost everything you've posted in this thread starting with the title.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 10:29 pm
L
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Friday, September 11, 2020 – 10:32 pm
And just because you keep
And just because you keep saying Sweden's economy weathered this just fine it doesn't make it correct. They suffered more economically than their neighboring countries. I guess with a broken phone you couldn't click on the links refuting your false statements.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 06:48 am
Covid isn't a hoax. It's a
Covid isn't a hoax. It's a virus. The world has convinced you to live in fear because of it. You posted a study to try and make a hypothetical point in the year 1918 after 100 years later. It's not a viable source and doesn't hold any weight. All they are say is "if" but meanwhile mask mandates haven't been that effective.
Every countries suffering economically you dumbass. There's a worldwide pandemic. They didn't create those economic issues for themselves like we have. In the USA I guess people seem to think that these economic issues will just go away but they won't. The banks were still charging everybody. Reality is that if you are at risk then you are at risk and while that may be unfortunate the only one who's responsible for your safety is you. You can go to a target where thousands of people flood everyday and wear a mask the whole time and still get the virus. If there was really some kind of protection offered by puting a t shirt over your face (which is what most cloth masks are) then we would have been using them in my feild long ago.
If these mask offer any kind of protection at all against viruses then why don't they send them to NIOSH to get rated? That way you could know the exact percentage you are actually protected. You'd most likely be surprised to find that you have little to no protection against viruses in those masks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 06:57 am
Timpie, you can use this to
Timpie, you can use this to count the deaths each day. Not a day where someone hasn't died. And don't forget to calculate for per capita averages.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105753/cumulative-coronavirus-death...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:04 am
According to your stats, sept
According to your stats, sept 7-9 no one died from Covid in Sweden. On google it says 7-10th. Maybe look at them bud
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:05 am
Sept 3-5 no deaths reported
Sept 3-5 no deaths reported either
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:06 am
I think Scandinavians and
I think Scandinavians and Europeans are much more likely to follow a suggested course of action than most of us spoiled “can’t tell me what to do” Americans, therefore the outcome still would have been terrible here if we did nothing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:11 am
^ I have seen nothing but
^ I have seen nothing but compliance with masks here in NJ. Can't speak for other places. I myself wear a mask when entering stores for services to respect their rules.
tbh, I always tried to stay away from people while walking outside and things like that so that's not too different for me .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:13 am
Okay, I was wrong. See how
Okay, I was wrong. See how easy that is. Now you try.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:31 am
Said it above that I was
Said it above that I was wrong about the number of cases.
Seems like a lot of people are trying hard to discredit Sweden but after dealing with an initial outbreak they used a scientific method of herd and pod immunity and did a record number of tests by the day . They have reduced the spread greatly and are averaging 1 death per day this month
We used the same tactic with the Hong Kong Flu. Right now the nba is using the pod immunity tactic to run their playoffs. That's been successful for them as well
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:33 am
Making friends wherever he
Making friends wherever he goes...lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:43 am
Someone has to do it, Six.
Someone has to do it, Six. The zone is filled with a bunch of frightened old white people and then others who try to shame people for having different opinions and then there are a few Kkk members like Thom and Bryen.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:45 am
No worries, timpane - but I
No worries, timpane - but I was commenting on floops not you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 08:16 am
>Right now the nba is using the pod immunity tactic to run their playoffs. That's been successful for them as well <
The NBA is locked in a bubble. All personnel were tested, quarantined, and now are must remain isolated from the general public. If someone tests positive, or breaks protocol, they are sent home. It's a lock down of healthy, uninfected individuals.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 08:42 am
One more time: the mask is to
One more time: the mask is to protect others from you, if you have Covid but are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic. If you have symptoms stay home.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 09:05 am
Most infections are
Most infections are transmitted by symptomatic individuals. A Bandana doesn't protect anyone from you either and you can still contract it if every one is wearing a mask but not keeping gOod hygiene or Washing their hands.
If we can't determine their effectiveness then how can we claim they are effective at anything? If you are symptomatic then wearing one wi he but you can still get someone sick
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 09:09 am
In reality people wear these
In reality people wear these masks because they think there protected but they aren't protecting them. If they were rated by noish and you knew their effectiveness then you would want an n95 mask because you would know a t shirt over your face doesn't protect you
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 09:24 am
Sure, a bandana or 1-ply
Sure, a bandana or 1-ply gaiter does little to nothing. However, 2 and 3 ply masks do, as do the ones with the charcoal filter inserts.
How much do they stop? I do t really know and I don't really care. If I'm wearing one and everyone else is, it has to stop more than nothing.
At the end of the day, for me, the mask isn't a huge inconvenience. I wear it to the store and when I leave my office at work.
If you need hard scientific data on exactly how many cases of Covid masks have or haven't stopped, you're not going to get it. If you use critical thinking, you see that most masks do something positive, and the more people that wear them, the better. Better safe than sorry.
I think that everyone needs to remember that masks and physical distancing are not meant to eradicate the virus. They flatten the curve. The cases will be there, but over a longer period of time. It will allow for better medical care, better therapies, and maybe even a vaccine.
The notion that the shutdown, massive unemployment, financial hardships and all that shit is some conspiracy is simply absurd. It's not a Bezos/Walton scheme for world domination. Yeah, maybe, out of fear, we went a little far with some of the shutdown stuff, but we live and learn.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 09:33 am
collapse is full effect. the
collapse is full effect. the us government despises us. it's going to get way worse imo.
this is why the dems and republicans chose not to help the public.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 09:34 am
>Most infections are transmitted by symptomatic individuals<
Not in the US...
A recent summary of the latest data by the CDC shows that about two-thirds of the COVID-19 transmissions in the U.S. come from people not showing symptoms – either because their cases are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic. According to the CDC, this “underscores the importance of social distancing, including the avoidance of congregate settings, to reduce COVID-19 spread.
https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/resources/covid-19-faqs-for-healt...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:04 am
His phone is broken
His phone is broken
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:06 am
Such a long, long time to be
Such a long, long time to be wrong, and short time to be right...
Box of Timpy
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:10 am
What kind of bubble does
What kind of bubble does someone have to be in to not understand the masks are to prevent transmission to others, specifically when asymptomatic, and not to protect oneself? The 3-ply cloth masks have been shown to reduce aerosol transmissions by 99%.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:14 am
But, but...the OSHA guy down
But, but...the OSHA guy down at the Union Hall said...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:16 am
Can someone please explain to
Can someone please explain to me who a full collapse of our economic system will benefit?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:25 am
It will benefit small pizza
It will benefit small artisan pizza shops in the northeast
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:27 am
so you think the fed helped
bk, the billionaires are making out quite well during the pandemic -- in fact, setting all types of record profits in such little time.
so you think the fed helped the public?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:32 am
would the billionaires
would the billionaires continue to make out quite well if our economic system totally collapses?
without consumers how would they continue to do quite well?
if our economic system totally collapses - there will be no consumers as they will all have no money or assets, nor a marketplace to consume in
capitalism relies on consumers to exist
I think this is covered in econ 101
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:35 am
> you think the fed helped
> you think the fed helped the public?
The $1200 check I got a few months back sure came in handy, as did the extra $600 a week unemployment for a class that got canceled last spring.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:40 am
^we're so conditioned to
^we're so conditioned to getting fucked, crumbs are acceptable. really sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:43 am
^ plus the Federal Reserve
^ plus the Federal Reserve has kept rates rates down for everyone, which helped us get out of the 2008 shit show economy. They have stated they will not raise rates even with signs of economic recovery.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:43 am
damn...
another one bites the dust.
>>> This isn't any kind of political thread either so please keep the politics to the 1000 other threads about politics, thanks. <<<
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:44 am
haha
haha
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:58 am
ogkb, I'm having a hard time
ogkb, I'm having a hard time reconciling your comments about crumbs wth the radical progressive stuff you usually spout around here. The crumbs comment makes you sound like just another bougie elitist.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:59 am
Millionaires always do well.
Millionaires always do well. Billionaires do better.
That doesn't explain the theory that it was all manufactured to benefit the few.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:01 am
By the way, it wasn't really
By the way, it wasn't really crumbs. It was more of a, "let them eat cake," thing (which may be worse, at this point).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:09 am
Or maybe "let them eat the
Or maybe a "let them eat the crusts of a $40 pizza" thing, but either way it sounds like something Trump and his ilk would say.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:21 am
^you support the people that
^you support the people that rubber stamp all trump policy.
nothing radical about what i post -- if you think support for m4a, gnd, is radical -- it's come to the point where it's kind of a fuck you.
go ahead, attack what i do for a living. don't matter.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:25 am
>>>>>it wasn't really crumbs
>>>>>it wasn't really crumbs. It was more of a, "let them eat cake," thing
Two trivial points;
Marie A. prob. never said "Let them eat cake".
Even if she had, the meaning at that time would prob.have been not "Let them eat more expensive pastry products", but "Let them eat the caked on residue (crumbs) from the bread ovens".
So it was both.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:30 am
> you support the people that
> you support the people that rubber stamp all trump policy
Bernie Sanders rubber stamps all Trump policy? Huh. That's news to me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:52 am
When Bernie does it, it's
When Bernie does it, it's because he knows how to play in the system. When anyone else does, it's because they are co-conspirators.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 11:54 am
Damn you, Surf, for ruining
Damn you, Surf, for ruining my epic historical myth.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 12:21 pm
<. the us government despises
<. the us government despises us. >
So who is this government you speak of?
Must be some cabal at the top of the chain, cause the Balto / DC area is full of Federal workers.... and I can attest there are hippies, freaks, Deadheads, and people of all political, ethnic, racial, etc persuasions doing the work.
I don't really think the the average government worker at Social Security or the IRS or NIH or HUD despises you or is out to screw you. You know what I mean? Federal employees are just average people just trying to get by, too. They do eat an inordinate amount of doughnuts, though.
So what are you really saying? You just sound stupid.
And who are "us?"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 12:39 pm
What the fug are you people
What the fug are you people talking about?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 12:41 pm
The conspiracy of Amazon,
The conspiracy of Amazon, Target, and the big mask lobby destroying the US economy
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 12:42 pm
Sweden, masks, broken phones,
Sweden, masks, broken phones, crumbs, and stupidity. The usual stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 12:59 pm
Timpane, what do you think of
Timpane, what do you think of Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam, or New Zealands handling of the virus? Those seem like better models to follow than the failure in Sweden.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 01:17 pm
<<<>>>When Bernie does it, it
<<<>>>When Bernie does it, it's because he knows how to play in the system. When anyone else does, it's because they are co-conspirators.
is that what you think?
strange.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:07 pm
i saw jerry in sweeden....
i saw jerry in sweden....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:16 pm
That was a beautiful link you
That was a beautiful link you just made there Turtle.
Some fine Zoning.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:39 pm
does heater really sell $50
does heater really sell $50 pizzas?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:41 pm
thanks man.
thanks man.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:42 pm
I thought I saw Jerry in an
I thought I saw Jerry in an IKEA once, but that's not really the same, is it?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:49 pm
he probably would've loved
he probably would've loved the meatballs...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 02:57 pm
No doubt. He was certainly no
No doubt. He was certainly no stranger to appetizers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 03:16 pm
Unbelievable to me there are
Unbelievable to me there are still masks don't work believers.
A very simple most excellent video. Again..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=6s&v=x6cTDGqcUpA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 03:47 pm
https://www.who.int/news-room
https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautionsLol, Ned. If you're mask isn't rated by Niosh to protected against viruses then it doesn't protect you at all. That way they are not held liable if you do get sick.
lumber truck, that site from a third rate health agency led me to nothing. Can't find this evidence you are talking about. Timmy is to stupid to actually click and read those links. He just sees something on social media with a headline and believes it's the truth.
here's what the WHO says, and that is it's truly unknown the spread of the virus through asymptotic people. So how do they determine that asymptotic people are spreading this virus from this source, Lumber truck? Please provide a better link with information about the subject.
so they know that symptomatic people are spreading the virus but have no idea how asymptotic are spreading it...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 03:52 pm
> here's what the WHO says
> here's what the WHO says
In the third paragraph under Implications for Preventing Transmission from the link you provided, Timpane:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:05 pm
^correct they advise masks
^correct they advise masks and also clarify tht the spread through asymptotic people is unknown. If anyone remembers in the beginning they were only advising those were symptomatic to wear masks and then they said fuck it let's milk this shit for everything it's worth.
Glad you brought up Hong and South Korea. Two countries who never had an outbreak. Hong Kong represents the fact that our scientific community knows absolutely nothing about the dreaded Covid-19. Mass gatherings and protests have been constant in Hong Kong throughout the last year yet the Covid hasn't broken out in the country. Here in Nj mass gatherings have been punishable by law side from the blm protests. Why are banning mass gatherings when they don't seem to be speeding the virus?
South Korea did a great job testing didnt shut down their country at first. I think later on they did a light shut down. They managed to convince their population that they need to be traced. This will work great for them as they now have great tool to completely manipulate and control their population
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:07 pm
Amazon, target and Walmart
Amazon, target and Walmart didn't destroy the economy. The federal and state govs did then they rolled it back as soon as they needed funding. So cautious of them to make my wife's school go back full time in NJ in a school that has over 1500 students and teachers in it, daily. Guys really are worried about it spreading
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:13 pm
"Given that infected people
"Given that infected people without symptoms can transmit the virus" does not mean "the spread through asymptotic people is unknown".
Maybe you haven't heard, Timpane, but reading is FUNdamental.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:14 pm
Yo next pandemic let's throw
Yo next pandemic let's throw like 3 trill at Exxon Mobil. They've been patient so let's hook a brother up. Wall st got their taste, the airlines got some too, and our boys over at Exxon are getting a lil jelly
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:15 pm
Mike they actually say it's
Mike they actually say it's unknown if you continue to read. I know that's hard to do but keep reading.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Keithk1 Keithk1
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:20 pm
Hey Timp the state did not
Hey Timp the state did not force your wife's school to open, the district chose to. Facts please.
As of earlier this week, 180 school districts across the state have alerted DOE that they plan to submit to begin the 2020-2021 school year with all-remote learning, while 59 districts plan to fully reopen and the remaining districts are moving forward with a hybrid mix of in-person and remote learning, Gov. Phil Murphy said.
https://www.nj.com/education/2020/08/list-of-nj-school-districts-plannin...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:22 pm
"A recent pre-print
"A recent pre-print systematic review suggests that individuals without symptoms are less likely to transmit the virus than those who developed symptoms."
That's from the WHO website but you can keep believing the bullshit if you want.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:24 pm
Keith, Murphy gave the
Keith, Murphy gave the district control while wiping his hands clean of the situation. He could could have made a mandate but chose to turn the other cheek. With all the shut downs of indoor dining and everything else he totally threw teachers to the doghouse. Fact
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 04:26 pm
It's all about schools
It's all about schools justifying their funding. When it comes down to it their funding is more important than safety of the employees or students. Almost all state workers are workin from home but teachers who have remote learning available are forced to teach and the gov just let it happen.
Indoor dining at 25% in NJ but a school can have 1500 people in it five days a week lol. Come on, Keith.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 05:01 pm
> Mike they actually say it's
> Mike they actually say it's unknown
Dude, you're a mess. They say "the extent of truly asymptomatic infection in the community remains unknown" (emphasis added by me). That's under the section titled SARS-CoV-2 Infected Persons Without Symptoms Can Also Infect Others.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Keithk1 Keithk1
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 05:08 pm
They chose to open Timp. They
They chose to open Timp. They could have easily gone for the hybrid model. They also had to submit a plan for state approval to be able to open. I don't see that as the state washing their hands. Other than Trump and Devoss threatening, no money has been pulled. This is a list of the districts fully open. I'm not seeing any of the cities who take big subsidies on the list. Mainly towns in the sticks and a few Republican areas of Monmouth County. Sucks for your wife but don't make it sound like her situation is the majority of what is going on here.
Atlantic
Margate City School District
Burlington
Beverly City School
New Hanover Township
North Hanover Township School District
Riverton School District
Southampton Township School District
Springfield Township School District
Woodland Township School District
Hampton Academy
Camden
Berlin Borough School District
LARC School
Cape May
North Wildwood School District
West Cape May Elementary School District
Wildwood Crest Borough School District
Cumberland
Creative Achievement Academy
Hudson
North Hudson Academy
Hunterdon
Alexandria Township School District
Bethlehem Township School District
Califon Borough School District
Delaware Township School District
Frenchtown Borough School District
Hampton Borough School District
Holland Township School District
Kingwood Township School District
Lebanon Borough School District
Milford Borough School District
Mercer
New Grange School
Monmouth
Atlantic Highlands School District
Avon Boro School District
Bayshore Jointure Commission School District
Bradley Beach School District
Farmingdale Public School District
Highlands Borough School District
Monmouth Beach School District
Monmouth-Ocean Educational Services Commission School District
Red Bank Charter School
Roosevelt Borough Public School District
Sea Girt Borough School District
Spring Lake Heights School District
West Long Branch School District
Children’s Center of Monmouth Co.
Coastal Learning Center
Harbor School
Schroth School
Ocean
Lakewood Township School District
Passaic
Little Falls Township Public School District
Salem
Creativity CoLaboratory Charter School
Elsinboro Township School District
Pennsville Public School District
Salem City School District
The Lower Alloways Creek School District
Strang School
Somerset
Bonnie Brae School
Center School
East Mountain School
Midland School
New Road School of Somerset
Sussex
Franklin Borough School District
Lakeland-Andover School
Union
Morris-Union Jointure Commission School District
Warren
Alpha Borough School District
Mansfield Township Elementary School District
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 05:24 pm
Timpane is now posting links
Timpane is now posting links to prove how wrong he is. Hilarious.
Also, pretty sure nobody in the thread has suggested wearing a mask is to protect themselves (that's just Timpanes straw man to try and get at least one thing correct). People wear them to prevent spreading it in case they may be an asymptomatic carrier.
There's 184 countries that have fared better than Sweden but yeah let's pretend their the gold standard
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 06:45 pm
Maybe I've missed this
Maybe I've missed this through all of Timpane's arguments that most masks don't actually help minimize the spread of the virus, but my question is - even if they don't HELP, does it HURT anything to wear them?
Because it seems to me that if there is no real downside to everyone wearing a mask, then everyone being forced to wear one is at the very least a constant visceral reminder to all of us that we're all in the middle of this thing and we need to be very careful in general when we're around other people. I think the masks help people remember to be diligent about distance when we're at the store or wherever, and if that's true then even if the masks are more placebo than real help, what's wrong with that?
Also Mr. pane, again maybe I'm not getting what you've been saying in all these threads, but are you suggesting that all the shutdowns, distancing & masks etc. have been a tragic mistake and we should all just be living our normal lives to create herd immunity? That I should be able to go to the 49ers game tomorrow with 65,000 drunken, screaming people? That there should be shows in the Grate Room with 400 people smashed into that little room that's crowded with 300?
Or maybe you're saying that just older, more susceptible people should shut down/distance, and everyone else should be packing venues, stores, restaurants, schools, etc.
I have no educated opinion on any of this, but I am one of those dreaded "older" white people, and I'll be honest, all those stories & images of very sick people in the halls of over-full ICU's, the freezer trucks lined up to take the overflow of bodies and the mass graves did make this old white person just a bit frightened.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 06:55 pm
This thread should go down as
This thread should go down as Timpane's crowning glory.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:01 pm
I think we might need to add
I think we might need to add In Sweden to the PZ Dictionary too. It's almost like a substitute for rainbows and unicorns.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:17 pm
This thread is a shining
This thread is a shining example of how Russian disinformation/propaganda also gets swallowed up and repackaged by the far left. Those pesky ruskies are psychological masters when it comes to understanding how to create division. Masks are bad and Antifa are lighting fires....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 07:39 pm
>>> You can go to a target
>>> You can go to a target where thousands of people flood everyday and wear a mask the whole time and still get the virus. <<<
But, if everyone else were wearing a mask the odds are much, much better that you won't.
It seems like people are working to be right in this thread, but there are a lot of different topics on this thread to be right about. Mine is, if you're not wearing a mask that has been found to prevent the spread of aerosolized virus, like a double or triple cloth mask, not just a neck gaiter or bandana), you are helping me. Why the fuck not? It's not all about protecting you. And, thank you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, September 12, 2020 – 10:25 pm
From CDC site:
From CDC site:
COVID-19 in Hong Kong
CDC recommends travelers avoid all nonessential international travel to Hong Kong. Travelers at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 should consider postponing all travel, including essential travel, to Hong Kong.
COVID-19 risk in Hong Kong is high.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 12:19 am
baby bitch is well beyond a
baby bitch is well beyond a mess
petty amazing how one can be so proud of being such an uncompromising idiot >competing for the stubbornness ( loser) award - (tied with 2 others I can think of a bernie bot and a trump bot - so there is a balance there >
crowning glory --- depending on what your goal is
amazeballs
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 10:40 am
Surfdead, is Hong Kong even
Surfdead, is Hong Kong even letting Americans in? For a while there was only 3 countries letting Americans in. Right now it's about 35 out of 195 countries that are letting Americans travel there.
Looks like Sweden started letting Americans travel there again on August 31 but the US is advising against it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 10:45 am
>>is that what you think?
>>is that what you think?
strange.
No, but your buddy Timpane said it, though I'm sure he'll deny it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb) Tatters
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 11:13 am
Our various government
Our various government factions made the decision to lock into COVID so fast and so early, that any critical thinking or alternative viewpoints were tossed out the window. It's like a battleship that wants to turn make a u-turn. Just incapable. Goal posts have been moved time and time again and there are a thousand federal, state and local regulations in place that are mostly arbitrary and ultimately, just cancel each other out. The amount of lives that have been economically and psychologically damaged exponentially outstrips the virus. The control machine needs to be smashed but we're locked in tight, we're out of range.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 11:18 am
Timp doesn't believe in the
Timp doesn't believe in the Covid science but does believe that there are pedophile rings operating out of pizza joints. Hmm..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 12:20 pm
>>>>>Our various government
>>>>>Our various government factions made the decision to lock into COVID so fast and so early, that any critical thinking or alternative viewpoints were tossed out the window
No, they delayed and dithered until a coherent response was impossible.
>>>>>Goal posts have been moved time and time again and there are a thousand federal, state and local regulations in place that are mostly arbitrary and ultimately, just cancel each other out.
Due to lack of leadership and mis- and disinformation from the WH.
>>>>>The amount of lives that have been economically and psychologically damaged exponentially outstrips the virus.
Dunno about that, but if true, it's because Bitch McYertle has stymied all attempts to provide a decent recovery and stimulus package.
>>>>>The control machine needs to be smashed
Pretty sure this crisis required more control, not less.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 12:38 pm
Surfdead just knocked it out
Surfdead just knocked it out of the park.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 01:46 pm
bernie is an old worthless
bernie is an old worthless sellout and masks don't work.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 01:51 pm
I have to admit, the mask
I have to admit, the mask thing at the football games is hilarious. Players don't wear them, but refs do. Coaches wear them, but pulled down. Although there's virtually no one in the crowds, the 2 people in the owner's box are wearing them, and they are 10 feet apart.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 02:00 pm
>>> I'm honestly just
>>> I'm honestly just wondering what other people think. I kinda think we're 50% right and 50% wrong. <<<
science 100% right
paintchips 100% wrong
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 02:34 pm
lol @ the paintchips. That's
lol @ the paintchips. That's just so wrong, and just exactly perfect at the same time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 02:54 pm
interesting...i can get a
interesting...i can get a special visa for indo for $1200 AUS....
you can pay off the virus.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 03:36 pm
Yeah you can go to Cambodia
Yeah you can go to Cambodia too but you have to put down a $3000 deposit in case you die so they can bury you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 03:59 pm
That sounds like the space
That sounds like the space monkeys in Fight Club needing to have $500 for burial money just in case.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 04:50 pm
My niece in Vermont just got
My niece in Vermont just got a student via to study in New Zealand - she has to have a Covid test before boarding the flight and quarantine upon arrival. Getting a tourist visa is a whole different story - those are pretty much out of the question for Americans.
America has become a laughing stock over our handling of Covid, and Trump in general
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 05:26 pm
Costa Rica is allowing
Costa Rica is allowing Americans in, but only from a few states. There are forms to fill out, IDs to present, tests to be had, and some quarantining to be done, but it's doable.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 05:40 pm
Wow, State by State
Wow, State by State restrictions, who would have guessed?!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Sunday, September 13, 2020 – 09:02 pm
Masking
Masking
any hope of intelligent behavior
proud to be an (independent thinker?)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andean Flight Javs Corner
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:47 am
LLTD, I'm going to go ahead
LLTD, I'm going to go ahead and give you a three-minute penalty in the box for wanton and needless insulting, ok?
Keep it classy, buddy. Haikus and insults don't go well together.
I approve of this thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 09:10 am
>I'm going to go ahead and give you a three-minute penalty in the box<
Come on, Javs, we've been over this...
2 minute minor
5 minute major
10 minute misconduct
Game misconduct
Penalty shot
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andean Flight Javs Corner
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 09:20 am
Damn.
Damn.
I'll give myself 2 minutes...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 11:55 am
It's understandable, Javs, I assume that ice hockey is not very popular in the Southern Hemisphere
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 01:38 pm
Nice post javs (and trucks)
Nice javs made chuckle
I debated pressing post
penalty accepted yes
5,7,5. No nature referenced
No zinger in first line , well masking is a double entande (spelling latitude)
complimenting you may classify as zinger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku
also thank you trucks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 01:47 pm
I should slow the f down
I should slow the f down
calm the f down
meditate
. Connect w nature . And beauty
and try composing
>>~ I should slow it down (5)
ending overreacting (7)
find love and beauty (5)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 01:50 pm
Ain't no time to hate
Ain't no time to hate
maybe reconciliate
and do something kind today
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 01:51 pm
Haiku are obscure
Difficult to understand
Refrigerator
-Chris Chandler
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 05:26 pm
Or is it...
Haiku are obscure
Often hard to understand
Refrigerator
- Chris Chandler
I don't remember which is correct.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andean Flight Javs Corner
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 06:20 pm
Flowers bloom by day
Flowers bloom by day
stealing glances from me
Thank you, sweet garden
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 06:37 pm
^^ thataboy
^^ thataboy oops
5 7 5
Flowers bloom by day
stealing fond glances from me
Thank you, sweet garden
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andean Flight Javs Corner
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:10 pm
Damn, I dun' fucked it up. I
Damn, I dun' fucked it up. I guess I get 5 in the box this time
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:25 pm
Lol, did you wear your
Lol, did you wear your bandanna today, Timmy? Just remember that they don't protect you or anyone else. The disease spreads mostly through symptomatic people. Sweden doesn't have to worry about "reopening" because they've been open this whole time. Denmark now total case number is higher than Sweden. Phil Murphy just wanted to get his 10 Bil from the Fed before "reopening". Keep believing what you like.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:40 pm
What a world we live in where
What a world we live in where grown adults believe that wearing a bandanna or cut pieces of t shirt over their face is preventive equipment for a global pandemic. Keep good hygiene Wash your hands and don't get too close to people and you'll be fine. Also support the local business down the street who is almost dead and scraping by for them and their families. A lot of people are hurting so give if you can.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:45 pm
Bandanas look the coolest. We
Bandanas look the coolest. We have all the colors.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 07:59 pm
bandanas look cool
bandanas look cool
preventative in practice
raising awareness
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:01 pm
I like tanka poems more than
I like tanka poems more than haiku: 5-7-5-7-7
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:06 pm
Mask conspiracy
Mask conspiracy
Big suckers, the lot of you
Not OSHA approved
Ruled by fear, unable to think
Feeding Bezos and Walton
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:08 pm
You didn't answer my question
You didn't answer my question Timpane.
Even if you're right that most masks serve no real purpose at stopping the virus, what does it HURT for people to wear whatever type of mask?
And do you dispute that everyone wearing some type of face covering in public is at least an obvious visual reminder to all of us to keep our distance, for when we get lazy in public and forget for a moment?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:18 pm
I think that if someone is
I think that if someone is sick or thinks they are sick and wears a real patient mask then that serves a purpose as those are actually intended for that exact purpose. As for a reminder, I have no idea but maybe. Personally, I don't care what people want to do but the fear monger of the media is just annoying, IMO. They really want everybody to be frightening and turn Covid into a revolution but it's not. It is a virus and it looks like it will be here for a while so if you're at the age of risk and or live with pre existing conditions and your lungs are healthy enough for an N95 or N99 mask then you should get one and wear it.
like I honestly don't care what others do with their mask or clothing or whatever.
yo I hear ya slack. Gucci selling masks on e bay, only 100$, a pop dawg. Gotta look fresh when you go out with your new mask.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:21 pm
I don't watch all those
I don't watch all those stupid "news" channels, so I can't say if they are selling fear.
Do you watch them, Timpy, or are you just repeating someone else's opinions?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 08:28 pm
Lol, BK. It seems most of you
Lol, BK. It seems most of you here don't agree with my opinion so whom would I be stealing it from? Right now I don't use any social media aside from Viva and very rarely instagram and the only kinda of articles I see are on yahoo when I check my email. It's usually a misleading picture along with an anxiety driven headline of some sort and it may not have anything to do with the actual content of the article. I can easily be engulfed and sucked into the hyped up drama as well but I don't indulge too much anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 09:15 pm
Think that most would agree
I think that most would agree with you on the points that the media sucks, and that t-shirts and bandanas aren't great face coverings. It's all the other shit that you seem to lose everyone on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 09:33 pm
I don't care what makes a
I don't care what makes a good face covering. I am not initiating contact. I wear something to be compliant so I don't get shot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Monday, September 14, 2020 – 10:37 pm
Ever the victim slacker.
Ever the victim slacker.
poor guy. Someone please save him from his misery.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 03:36 am
https://nypost.com/2020/09/14
https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/anti-maskers-forced-to-dig-graves-for-covi...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 – 04:13 am
Well, that right there is a
Well, that right there is a good enough reason to wear a mask, if you ask me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 10:49 am
>>>>>Lol, BK. It seems most
>>>>>Lol, BK. It seems most of you here don't agree with my opinion so whom would I be stealing it from? Right now I don't use any social media aside from Viva and very rarely instagram and the only kinda of articles I see are on yahoo when I check my email. It's usually a misleading picture along with an anxiety driven headline of some sort and it may not have anything to do with the actual content of the article. I can easily be engulfed and sucked into the hyped up drama as well but I don't indulge too much anymore.
"I don't pay attention to anything but I know everything"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 10:52 am
>>>>> Denmark now total case
>>>>> Denmark now total case number is higher than Sweden.
Your phone's still broken or you're really bad at math.
Total cases:
Denmark - 21,009
Sweden - 87,575
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 11:02 am
About 20 of my neighbors were
About 20 of my neighbors were out celebrating the clean air - it's the little things - last night. Not one person wearing a mask, or social distancing while doing tequilas shots. On the one had it was nice to see everyone outside and back to normal, on the other hand we're in the middle of a pandemic and these intelligent folks are dumb as shit when it comes to Covid. They think that they're somehow immune in this neighborhood bubble, which is a joke cause each and everyone of them have multiple bubbles.
i suppose when when of them gets Covid they might wake the fuck up and realize that they and their young kids - and others in the community - aren't immune from this deadly virus. I guess the worst is knowing that behavior like this is happening all over the country, which means COVID hospitalizations and deaths will increase for many more months.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 11:08 am
Total deaths:
Total deaths:
Denmark - 633
Sweden - 5,860
Denmark has had numerous 0 death days and the last time they has a daily double digit death number was May 10th with 10 deaths.
Denmark more closely resembles the good example of handling the situation you were trying to portray Sweden as being.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 01:56 pm
US passed Italy and Sweden in
US passed Italy and Sweden in deaths per million and we will soon pass the UK. Look out Spain we are coming for you.
USA USA USA.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 02:00 pm
Trump on the topic of masks
Trump on the topic of masks at the town hall last night:
What a maroon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 02:08 pm
I'll take please wear a mask
I'll take please wear a mask for $200 Alex.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 08:14 pm
The problem with masks.
The problem with masks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 09:40 pm
That's not a problem with
That's not a problem with masks, that's a problem with people.
Fuckin' people.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 – 09:47 pm
It looks like masks are the
It looks like masks are the new used condoms.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Monday, September 21, 2020 – 10:10 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 06:56 pm
Still new cases and deaths in
Still new cases and deaths in Sweden and their economy is still suffering worse than neighboring countries that took stricter measures.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 06:59 pm
What was that, Timmy? My
What was that, Timmy? My phone seems to be broken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:07 pm
The strict measures China
The strict measures China took have proven successful and continue to keep the country virtually Covid free.
Sweden fucked up, bigly.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:37 pm
0 deaths in Sweden from Covid
0 deaths in Sweden from Covid yesterday, Timmy. Google is hard, guy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:37 pm
They have barely broken into
They have barely broken into double digits in a single day in the last month. I guess they really royally fucked up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:44 pm
Instead of guessing try
Instead of guessing try looking at the science.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/it-s-been-so-so-surreal-critics-...
>...The country’s cumulative death rate since the beginning of the pandemic rivals that of the United States, with its shambolic response. And the virus took a shocking toll on the most vulnerable. It had free rein in nursing homes, where nearly 1000 people died in a matter of weeks. Stockholm’s nursing homes ended up losing 7% of their 14,000 residents to the virus. The vast majority were not taken to hospitals. Although infections waned over the summer, scientists worry a new wave will hit in the fall. Cases are rising rapidly in the greater Stockholm area, where almost one-quarter of the Swedish population lives..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:47 pm
Entire month of September in
Entire month of September in Sweden- 51 deaths. That's 1.7 deaths from Covid per day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:51 pm
Only 22 in Denmark in
Only 22 in Denmark in September
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 07:56 pm
That's a good thing, Timmy.
That's a good thing, Timmy. More people actually died in South Korea in the month of September than Sweden from Covid.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:01 pm
Looks like Denmark is re
Looks like Denmark is re-shutting down the country again because of how many cases they had last month. What a great time to be a citizen of Denmark. You can really lead a great life when your country is shut down all the time trying to make itself look good.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:07 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:10 pm
^Do you think I live in the
^Do you think I live in the year 2003? Weird post.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:11 pm
lol
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:17 pm
South Korea has been shut
South Korea has been shut down almost nine months now. Must be super fuckin lit over there. Tech rehabs are probably a hot ticket. Maybe they'll just keep them shut down forever. Blame it on Covid, man. Stay in your fucking home forever. Awesome
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:18 pm
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:21 pm
I feel bad for the Chinese
I feel bad for the Chinese though. They're trapped for years to come and nobody is going to help them. The world will just praise them for such a great job they did imprisoning 1 billion people. Pretty impressive
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 08:24 pm
You betcha.
You betcha.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 09:39 pm
.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, October 8, 2020 – 09:46 pm
you are free
you are free
to be an idiot,
just please,
don't infect others
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 09:54 am
when your country is shut
when your country is shut down all the time trying to
make itself look goodsave lives.Fixed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 10:24 am
Sweet Swedish upgrade, BK.
Sweet Swedish upgrade, BK. Timpane should be grateful.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 10:37 am
>>>I feel bad for the Chinese
>>>I feel bad for the Chinese though. They're trapped for years to come and nobody is going to help them. The world will just praise them for such a great job they did imprisoning 1 billion people. Pretty impressive
I find the China Covid numbers to be completely preposterous... does anyone actually think they're reporting accurately? They have like 1.2 billion people and have completely snuffed this thing out? I could be wrong- totalitarian governmental approaches certainly have more powerful levers to pull than other governing structures.. I just find the numbers coming from China to have zero credibility.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 12:53 pm
>>>>> I just find the numbers
>>>>> I just find the numbers coming from China to have zero credibility.
How credible are our numbers?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Siobud
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 01:57 pm
Manipulated in some states
Manipulated in some states significantly *cough* Florida *cough*.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 03:58 pm
I believe China. They just
I believe China. They just use technology to do full on contact tracing, and universal mask wearing.
Here’s how it works: Chinese citizens have to give up their national identity number or passport number, as well as their phone number. The app then asks them to complete a questionnaire about travel history and current symptoms. According to CNN, authorities then verify this information and are assigned a color.
The color on the screen determines your options, based on your current health status: green means that you’re good to go, yellow means you’ve been close to somebody who’s been sick, and red means you have to stay home.
You have to look at the whole region they have really low numbers not just China. Universal mask wearing works.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 04:08 pm
Exactly ^
Exactly ^
Mandatory quarantines and mandatory masks combined with precision contact tracing stopped the pandemic. Everything is back open as it's business as usual in China, people aren't even wearing masks much anymore because there is no Covid - only a handful of quickly detected cases from travelers returning to China. I would love to go visit, but they're not letting Americans in their country. can't blame them..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, October 9, 2020 – 07:29 pm
Breaking News: The White
Breaking News: The White House is said to have blocked a CDC effort to require face coverings on airplanes, trains, buses and in travel hubs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 – 05:36 pm
Well what do you know? Turns
Well what do you know? Turns out cloth masks do protect the wearer too.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 – 06:04 pm
timpster's hope for this
timpster's hope for this thread to disappear has been dashed. sad
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 – 06:21 pm
The OSHA trainer at the Union
The OSHA trainer at the Union Hall said that cloth masks don't do shit, and he knows a hell of a lot more than the CDC.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 – 06:24 pm
Oh, and Sweden has had 46,629
Oh, and Sweden has had 46,629 new cases in the last 14 days.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:01 am
^Trolling for attention and
^Trolling for attention and stinking of body odor
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:20 am
NJ on a worse trajectory wi
NJ on a worse trajectory wi try far more deaths. There has been a mandatory mask mandate here since March. Why isn't it working again? Everyone I see wearing masks and numbers still going up. Blame it on the restaurants? California going way up as well and their indoor dining is a lot more strict. Maybe it's time to admit that they have nothing to stop or prevent this thing. Just a thought
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:24 am
One thing that we can all
One thing that we can all agree on is that a properly worn mask and good hygiene is unlikely to increase the spread so where is the harm. People still die in car accidents that are wearing seatbelts
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:50 am
How does cause and effect
How does cause and effect actually work? lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:21 am
The prevention of wearing
The preventative aspects of wearing mask doesn't seem to be any different than a country without it like Sweden's trajectory and in some places it's worse. Maybe you could figure that one out since you guys are so smart. The companies who make masks are really happy everyone is pushing their shit for them though, I'm sure.
Quick question: if covid can live on surfaces for up to or past 24 hrs isn't it possible it could live on your mask for the same amount of time?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:27 am
< they have nothing to stop
< they have nothing to stop or prevent this thing>
Did you ever think anyone could stop or prevent an airborne virus from infecting a host species that shares the air it breathes? That's like stopping or preventing the weather. You seem take literally the language newscasters and politicians use. No wonder you are disappointed in the results. You have unrealistic expectations.
Mother nature has had lots of time to design a virus that can successfully replicate in humans. The goal now is to manage it -- i.e., to reduce the impact on people's health.
It's not rocket science -- if you physically distance yourself from virus carriers and put up barriers between you and them, you will reduce the chances of breathing it in and getting infected. Very simple. Don't breath it in - don't get sick. Breath in less, probably get less sick. Sorry that's a pain in the ass.
If it was Ebola and you watched people "implode in their own fluids," I'd bet you'd socially distance and wear a mask and not complain. Shit, you'd wear a spacesuit. Or if you could see the virus particles -- you'd have less problem with getting your head around a pandemic. But you still think like a Medieval person -- if you can't see it, it doesn't exist. Bring on the leeches!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:34 am
Yes it is, which is why
Yes it is, which is why proper hygiene is essential. You don’t just pull a seat belt across but not buckle it.
Oh yes I’m certain this was just an attempt to inject money into the mask business... wtf
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:37 am
No, but there are many
No, but there are many companies making money of of masks. And no Allen my expectations are realistic. Many people will die and governments will keep trying to make the people feel safe because in the USA we are filled with spoiled control freaks and they know how to deal with us. They want us to feel comfortable and that's fine but the reality is masks aren't doing much in places that have large spikes and large numbers of cases. Just a fact.
Being that the virus is airborne it can also get into your system through your eyes. Where's the saftey glasses for every one?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:52 am
Working for the dept of
Working for the dept of anesthesia/ dept of surgery for the last 20 years, it’s been easy to accept that masks are useful in protecting both myself as well as my patients . It amuses me to no end that folks have such a problem with something so simple. I work with covid patients every day and have since the pandemic began...I have yet to contract the virus myself. Is a mask the reason I haven’t acquired it? Not necessarily. But I’m certain that it didn’t increase my risk
and yes glasses are helpful, esp when around clowns who won’t wear masks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 08:18 am
Timpane, I know that all
Timpane, I know that all aspects of critical thinking are lost on you. Therefore, you equate rising rates with masks not working.
Dig deeper, kid. Across the United States and around the world, the highest infection rates are generally among the 18-34 year old demographic. For instance, out of California's almost one million cases, over 35% are in the 18-34 age range. A further 25% are in the 35-49 age group. The death rates for both these groups are very low. These statistics are similar to ones I've seen for many other places.
Let's focus on that 18-34 demo. They go out to restaurants and bars. They go to parties where social distancing isn't occurring. They meet up with friends from other geographical areas. They don't really take many precautions, They half-heartedly wear masks. They get infected, but don't really get that sick. No big deal.
That asymptotic person then goes to Mom's very intimate and "safe" birthday party and infect another attendee. That person doesn't know they have it, goes into the office and infects 2 more people. One has a wife with an autoimmune disease, and she's history.
I fully expect to see a mass spike between thanksgiving and Christmas, when the young and stupid go home and infect everyone else in ways they previously hadn't. There is no social distancing with 15 people sitting around the table, body to body. There is no social distancing with buffet style meals. People aren't wearing masks while eating and drinking.
That's how it works, Timpane. Masks absolutely work. That is a proven fact. Complacency and not caring is the problem.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 08:48 am
^i agree.
^i agree. spot on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 08:54 am
The only thing I would add to
The only thing I would add to BK's well-said post are the political types of all ages who refuse to wear masks in public places because Trump has said they don't need them.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 09:15 am
Folks are pretty good about
Folks are pretty good about wearing their masks around here, but for some reason then apparently think that wearing a mask absolves them from distancing. Went to the store yesterday and had to spend a bunch of energy avoiding people who were too close.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 09:24 am
^ so much disinformation, it
^ so much disinformation, it's maddening.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 09:25 am
Let's start a gofundme
Let's start a gofundme campaign to get Timpy a new phone (and a mask).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 09:40 am
^ I think we're gonna need to
^ I think we're gonna need to vote on that...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 09:48 am
Tim Paine -- these guys are
Tim Paine -- these guys are trying to reason with you but I have no patience today -- when it comes to medicine and public health, you're a fuckin idiot.
Go spend a day with Zoner Tim and get back to me. Until then, stick to politics.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:11 am
what about the folks going
what about the folks going out to eat inside?
mask on, mask off -- defeats the purpose, no?
all while the staff must have mask on at all times.
anybody go out for indoor dining?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:23 am
>>anybody go out for indoor
>>anybody go out for indoor dining?
No way in hell, especially not in my town. The restaurants and bars are filled with 25-35 year olds, with license plates from NJ, PA, TX, MA, WI and NY. That seems like an outbreak waiting to happen.
I've been giving obscenely big tips on take-out orders, though. People need to pay bills.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:25 am
I have seen nothing but
I have seen nothing but compliance here in NJ. Murphy said the spread has come mostly from get together a at people's houses. He shut down public restaurants after 10 PM which won't really do anything. Can't find any figures about the age group that has been effect in the recent outbreak but I haven't seen anyone disregarding masks anywhere and the spread is still occurring.
You could make the assumption that 18-35 are "wreckless" but you have no real proof of that at all. Hospitalizations are up which means that there is likely there is a widespread of infections past that age group.
Most people are afraid to question the mainstream media telling you exactly what to believe in and what is helping but I'm ok with being an outsider calling it as I see it. Many of the studies done are in controlled environments which aren't really representative of certain structures with completely different ventilation systems. There is really no way they can come up with an accurate test that would represent so many different variables so your left with what you have. So far the mask mandates and use of masks hasn't been slowing the spread in any big cities in the USA. I guess you could push for a stay at home shut down mandate until there is a 99.9 % vaccine available but until then wearing masks will only go so far.
The trajectory in Sweden is very similar to that of NJ or California. There has been no mask mandate there and many scientists and medical doctors have made claims against the CDCs mask guidelines. Of course mainstream media has worked hard trying to discredit them so they have to keep finding someone to blame for the spreading of the virus while states who instituted mask mandates continue to rise and rise in infections.
I think living in a world where we desperately await a vaccine with no guideline for people who can't work at home are able to pay their bills is unrealistic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:25 am
No indoor dining for me
No indoor dining for me except at my house. I've been to a couple of places that have outdoor dining, but that even felt kind of weird with the mask-on/mask-off thing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:32 am
>>> all while the staff must
>>> all while the staff must have mask on at all times. <<<
I've seen enough shit (reddit) where even tho restaurants are only doing take-out,
the staff ain't wearing masks.
why?
because they trust their staff??
agreed bk, asheville is all tourism/ tourists,
fuck that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:43 am
In NJ cases from 40- 55
In NJ cases from 40- 55 higher than 18-29. 30-40 also higher than 18-29. Your theory of the youth being wreckless doesn't work in Nj, BK.
https://www.njspotlight.com/2020/03/tracking-cases-of-covid-19-county-by...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:47 am
In New York infection rate
In New York City infection rate also much higher past the age of 40. Your assumptions are based on California but don't really translate anywhere else.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109831/coronavirus-cases-rates-by-a...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:50 am
Timpy, those stats are for
Timpy, those stats are for the people getting tested. Many youngsters contract it and show no symptoms (so don't get tested), but spread it just as much a sick person. Hence: MASKS
Please use your brain.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:52 am
^ what is your end game with
P-chips, what is your end game with this?
throw that tracfone in the trash,
it's not serving you well at all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:53 am
Dude, age 18-49 accounts for
Dude, age 18-49 accounts for 50% of the tested cases in NJ.
You're worse at science than Trump.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:55 am
Ned, your making a claim but
Ned, your making a claim but you have no facts to back it up. There are people in other age groups who can be asymptotic as well. Those are just the facts of who we know has been infected. You can spin it any you want your just speculating.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:55 am
By the way, the trend of
By the way, the trend of younger rates is national: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6939e1.htm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:56 am
No shit, BK. That's half if
No shit, BK. That's half if you can count. You made a claim saying that these are the people who frequent bars and restaurants, etc. where's that evidence coming from? Mostly 40-55 actually infected.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:59 am
Are you just stubborn, or are
Are you just stubborn, or are you dense?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 10:59 am
That report is almost two
That report is almost two months old. Where's your recent evidence siting the recent outbreak in the last week is of the lower age group?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:00 am
By the way, it's "reckless",
By the way, it's "reckless", not "wreckless".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:02 am
That report is almost two
I just think you're wrong. People will keep trying to point a finger at someone to blame but the truth is th at they have no way to prevent this virus from spreading in places where it's already spiked. Only way is to be 100% isolated but the still virus won't just go away.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:02 am
That report is almost two
Dub
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:08 am
this weeks #'s
2 weeks #'s
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:13 am
I’m in contact with covid pts
I’m in contact with covid pts each and every day, I wear a mask and OR attire and have not contracted the virus. My trumpy anti masker father in law ridiculed us for the last 6 months while he carried on as if wearing the mask was some kind of death sentence. I didn’t even waste my time saying told ya so when he brought the virus home for everyone in his house. 4 weeks out of work incl 2 weeks in the hospital. He’s lucky to be alive and hadn’t seen his grandkids in 6 weeks
Im sure not wearing a mask had nothing to do with it
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:18 am
I'm not really sure what your
I'm not really sure what your talking about when saying "father in law". I wear a mask when in a place where those are the rules that are needed to follow. At work we have so I do it. I respect the rules in place but question their preventative attributes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:24 am
Amazing that for years 99% of
Amazing that for years 99% of zoners questioned, criticized and ultimately disbelieved the scientific and medical reports and data being given to them about marijuana and the human brain but when it comes to "masks" you are a "trumper" or some kind of crazy person lol.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:33 am
>> I'm not really sure what
>> I'm not really sure what your talking about when saying "father in law". <<
Somehow, you just upped yourself to Derpcom 4.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:33 am
Father in law=my wifes dad
Father in law=my wifes dad
his behavior is an illustration of the potential preventive benefits of wearing a mask vs not wearing one
i don’t consume marijuana
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:38 am
I misread your post about
I misread your post about your father in law. I understand that as an example. Another example is my fathers friend who wore a mask and did everything he was told and still contracted Covid and died.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:39 am
I'm pretty sure that everyone
I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that putting large quantities of combusted, and probably vaped, particulates in one's lungs poses a health risk. That risk is to self.
What the fuck does that have to do with flattening a pandemic curve by wearing masks and practicing distancing and hygiene?
Are you just doubling down on stupid now?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:43 am
> Derpcom 4
> Derpcom 4
And rising. The derp is strong with this one.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:45 am
Nope, my point is that those
Nope, my point is that those who try to say we should question science or medical reports have most likely done the same thing in the past there have been plenty of studies that have been wrong and or just politically geared like most things nowadays. Brian, you seem to be unable to understand the hypocrisy in that but it's ok I don't need to insult you when having an argument. I just do that for fun.
If it's a popular subject like weed than it's ok to question scientific and or medical reports. But to question the prevention from a gloabal pandemic by "masks", oh well that's a crime right?
Ned with some quality lurking on this thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:48 am
Timpane, I'm curious about
Timpane, I'm curious about your education and what you do for a living. How did you come to be so intelligent about so many things?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:49 am
Yes and plenty of people
Yes and plenty of people wearing seatbelts still die in car accidents.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:55 am
Just go wear your bandana
Just go wear your bandana like the cdc guides you to. See what good that will you do.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:55 am
Timpy, you insult yourself
Timpy, you insult yourself with every post far more than you do me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 11:58 am
Timpy, have you considered
Timpy, have you considered being a flat-earther? I think you would thrive in that community. .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:03 pm
Aw, just look at you two.
Aw, just look at you two. Maybe you should exchanges phone numbers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:06 pm
>> Ned, your making a claim
>> Ned, your making a claim but you have no facts to back it up. <<
followed by...
>> I just think you're wrong. <<
At least you used "you're" correctly 50% of the time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:15 pm
Can't stop reading my posts,
Can't stop reading my posts, eh? Sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:17 pm
>>>>>Just go wear your
>>>>>Just go wear your bandana like the cdc guides you to. See what good that will you do.
Still unclear on the concept, I see.
Masks are worn so you won't infect others, in case you are COVID-positive but asymptomatic, not primarily to protect you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:22 pm
I'm only here to corrupt the
I'm only here to corrupt the feeble minds of the zoner children, But I guess you can believe that bandana offers protection to someone else from a virus if you want to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:24 pm
Timpane doesn't care about
Timpane doesn't care about himself or other people. Sad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:33 pm
It's funny (and a little
It's funny (and a little sad) that you think you're dishing out the burn. LOL
Tmpy, you're the only person that has brought up bandanas, and no one here has suggested they work as well as a mask. What you are doing is textbook gaslighting, and it's intellectual laziness.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:37 pm
So sad to see the older
^Sweet edit, old guy
So sad to see the older generation get killed off by all the young people trying to have a good time in life isn't it? You're all gonna die, guys. Be afraid to go out in public. Keep reading your social media feed scroll after scroll until you catch this thing and perish. Viva will cease to exist.
The internet satan has appeared to take back your eternal troll souls.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:42 pm
What are you babbling about?
What are you babbling about? LOL you're off axis, bruh.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:49 pm
Ned you have a much better
Ned you have a much better chance of dying from this thing than I do. Your decrepit deteriorated old man body won't be able to handle it. I'm a young man in his prime physical condition and will be fine. I look forward to the demise of the old and futile. You're all going down
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:49 pm
I'm thinking Timpane is
I'm thinking Timpane is finding it difficult to huff paint with a mask on.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:53 pm
<<You're all gonna die, guys.
<<You're all gonna die, guys.
<<I look forward to the demise of the old and futile. You're all going down
dude. not okay.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:54 pm
https://cnycentral.com/news
https://cnycentral.com/news/local/syracuse-police-investigating-group-of...
blatant disregard is the problem we are having.
Yes we are all going to die and there are ways to go out in public safely without living in fear. Going out with a mask on is not living in fear. I think anti maskers make it seem much harder then it is. Most of us don’t even think about it. Esp folks in my field, we’ve been wearing one for decades. Not until this pandemic did it ruffle certain people feathers and now it’s some kind of lightning rod.
Wearing a mask does not seem to be a political statement by those who wear one but it seems not wearing one is, according to ones who don’t
i promise to keep my mask on while you are under my care during surgery, regardless of whether you think it helps anyone or not
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 12:58 pm
A demonstration with Uncle
A demonstration with Uncle Rob, again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=6s&v=x6cTDGqcUpA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:02 pm
I would embrace the challenge
I would embrace the challenge to ski, hike, bike, drink with you Timpy. Bring it, youngster. Age is a number.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:03 pm
^^^I'm a young man in his
^^^I'm a young man in his prime physical condition and will be fine.
Mistake...
this is the attitude that will ensure your candidacy for early demise. I see these know it alls in my practice all the time, I would venture that a solid 40-50% of the covid pts that have required mechanical ventilation as a result of their illness are 25-50 YO. Those invincible young bucks that called it a boomer killer. More then a couple of em didn’t make it at all. Good luck!
Im 50 myself and am still running a sub 3:45 hr marathon(most recent one 2 weeks ago) but I don’t ever think for a second that I’m without risk. But that’s not the same as fear
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:07 pm
Why don't you put your money
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, Fishcane? You and I plus a person with Covid in the same room. Let's see who lives.
No masks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:11 pm
Don’t need you there, i am in
Don’t need you there, i am in the same room with covid pts every day, saving their lives from thought processes like yours. See ya soon! I promise to keep my mask on when I’m intubating you tho!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:13 pm
Thank god that old Timpy is
Thank god that old Timpy is going back to being nothing but a troll. He sure as hell is better at that than he is coming up with anything intelligent or interesting to add, on any subject.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:14 pm
Sounds like you really care!
Sounds like you really care! Lol. I've been working around hundreds of people and I have not contracted it yet. At the peak of Rona I worked 7 days a week with 100 other union trades workers to help build a hospital in Cherry hill, NJ for the sick and suffering. You're welcome
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:22 pm
Yes I do. Often we care more
Yes I do. Often we care more then the individual patients themselves it seems. I can’t tell you the number of heart valves we replace due to opioid abuse that only come back for another one later because they couldn’t care enough for themselves to clean up their act. Often they like to blame us as if the original surgery was defective. We love to blame others and refuse accountability this day and age it seems.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:25 pm
DSM-5: Oppositional Defiant
DSM-5: Oppositional Defiant Disorder
A. A pattern of angry/irritable mood, argumentative/defiant behavior, or vindictiveness lasting at least 6 months as evidenced by at least four symptoms of the following categories, and exhibited during interaction with at least one individual who is not a sibling:
Angry/Irritable Mood
1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
Argumentative/Defiant Behavior
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
Vindictiveness
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past 6 months.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519712/table/ch3.t14/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:28 pm
I literally build the places
I literally build the places you can do your job in and you don't even know how to say thank you. So much hate from the old heads.
That's why covid is coming for you guys
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:31 pm
Dude, if your boss said go
Dude, if your boss said go build a tire store I'm not going to thank you for my tires. Sorry.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:33 pm
You will when your tires fall
You will when your tires fall off your car and your cave dwelling ass can't change a tire. Anyways, it was a hospital that was literally erected for covid patients. We worked 7 days a week and sometimes 10 hr days. What did you do, Ned?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:34 pm
Despair tires.
Despair tires.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:34 pm
Timpy is a painter, not a
Timpy is a painter, not a builder. That would be like the dude that paints airplanes calling themselves an "aerospace engineer."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:36 pm
Timpane's melt is starting to
Timpane's melt is starting to remind me of that zoner who once claimed that people would die if he didn't get to his bridge job.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:37 pm
I'm an industrial painter
I'm an industrial painter Brian you dumbass. Bridges, hospitals; industrial sites. You have clue what we do lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:38 pm
I wear a mask, timpy. That's
I wear a mask, timpy. That's what I have done.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:40 pm
Don't industrial painters
Don't industrial painters have to wear masks and other protective gear all the time?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:42 pm
Yeah dude, you're a painter,
Yeah dude, you're a painter, not a master builder, or even a carpenter.
"Thanks" my ass. Those fat OT checks should have been thanks enough. Did you thank the taxpayers of New Jersey?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:42 pm
Yes we do. That's why o know
Yes we do. That's why I know more than you do about masks.
So none of you have done anything at all to help except FishCane? Got it, thanks for your service.
Before industrial painting I specialized in Victorian restoration. bK fishing for results and coming up
empty now
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:44 pm
The tax payers of New Jersey>
The tax payers of New Jersey>>>>
Yes, you're right I should thank me more often.
Fat OT checks>>
I liked them, yes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:47 pm
NJ...I rescind my challenge
NJ...I rescind my challenge to ski and hike. You would fail miserably.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:48 pm
To get this clear, you did
To get this clear, you did not build a hospital. You took a painting job, for which you got paid very, very well. You didn't do it out of philanthropy, nor have you done jack shit to otherwise make a difference.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 01:49 pm
I don’t thank each person
I don’t thank each person individually for the things that make all of our lives possible. It doesn’t mean we cant share our gratitude by serving good works each and every day. It doesn’t mean that any of us who come later have hatred or are ungrateful to those who came before us. I don’t think my job is any more important then anyone elses in life.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:02 pm
Timpy thinks that he's a
Timpy thinks that he's a front line worker.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:10 pm
I am. Right now I working on
I am. Right now I working on a chemical plant building a brand new unit. If you don't think helping with the construction of a hospital during the time of a pandemic is being a frontline worker than you're just a moron. Are you mad because you have no importance with your job?
And yes working on a bridge could save lives. While you ignarmous fools just drive along expecting these bridges and other important structures to just "be there" for you there is a long list of repairs and preservation of the steel that goes into keeping them intact and safe to drive on.
Bk is severely losing this trolling battle and he starting to smell of body odor from sweating so hard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:13 pm
^Triggered
^Triggered
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:17 pm
It's been fun dragging along
It's been fun dragging along this old white guy train of losers all day but I must be going. You will have to get your kicks from BKs horrible zoning for the rest of the night. Bye
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:19 pm
Oh man...someone needs an ego
Oh man...someone needs an ego check STAT.
So, we should blame you for the evil corporate chemicals they make, right? Man, you're too much. Biden voting BernieBro "building" chemical plants LOL.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:27 pm
this has been quite the
this has been quite the unraveling. 4.8 level type stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:28 pm
lol
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:35 pm
Should brace ourselves for
Should brace ourselves for some ALL CAPS?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 02:58 pm
Is anyone learning anything
Is anyone learning anything new from Timpane "dragging along this old white guy(sic) train of losers"? Or from what most other people have said here (fishcane's experiences excepted)?
Anyone who thinks that wearing a mask doesn't help someone beside themself, and then doesn't wear one, is without conscience. It's not about Sweden, it's not about the Union Hall workshops, it's not about rumors you heard somewhere. It's about taking care of each other and ourselves. This whole thread is stale.
The strong uptick in COVID positives in my area is due to Halloween parties and get togethers, and the spread from those infected people. It's known how it works but people are still thinking it's okay to go play in close quarters with others, mostly done without masks.
As a vulnerable old person with underlying conditions...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 03:32 pm
Stay safe Judit, we are
Stay safe Judit, we are facing another imminent shutdown here due to relaxed approaches to the rules. Anyone who denies the effectiveness need look any further then what’s happening all over the country today
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 03:41 pm
Doing my best, fishcane. I
Doing my best, fishcane. I have been physically isolated since mid-March but now I have to go to some medical and imaging appts. and it freaks me out to be amongst people. Luckily, one of my best and oldest friends is a retired family practice doc who is coming with me as needed. He has cardiac vulnerability and is extra careful, too.
But meanwhile, there are cavalier and/or under-informed people who are risking spreading the virus to others.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 04:13 pm
The Old White Guy Loser Train
The Old White Guy Loser Train is never ending, Judit.
and it's heading right to Covid land
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 04:20 pm
Maybe someday you will get a
Maybe someday you will get a chance to ride on it. If your lucky
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 04:27 pm
What's worse, being an old
What's worse, being an old white guy, or being younger guy who chooses to hang out with old losers?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:01 pm
What’s worse being an old
What’s worse being an old white guy or not living long enough to see the idiocy of your younger days from the other side
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:18 pm
> I have to go to some
> I have to go to some medical and imaging appts. and it freaks me out to be amongst people.
I hear you, judit. I've had to visit quite a few medical facilities lately with the neck jive I have going on, and it kind of freaks me out too. I've decided that if surgery is found to be necessary, I don't want to do it until Covid is well under control.
As for whether anyone is learning anything in this stale thread, I bumped it yesterday after I learned that masks protect the wearer too in the new CDC report. I've also learned a few things about fishcane's occupation, and I'm curious about what exactly he does. It sounds like you might be a surgeon?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:42 pm
No I’m an Anesthetist, I’m
No I’m an Anesthetist, I’m the guy that keeps you sleeping and breathing while you are having surgery. When a covid pt (or anyone)needs mechanical ventilation, were the ones who put the breathing tube in and administer the meds to keep u sleepy while on the ventilator
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:46 pm
That was my second guess
That was my second guess because you mentioned intubation; it was the heart valves being replaced that had me thinking surgeon. Thanks for being on the front lines, and it's good to meet you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:47 pm
<<And yes working on a bridge could save lives.
<<I’m the guy that keeps you sleeping and breathing while you are having surgery.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 05:54 pm
Thanks! You too! I often work
Thanks! You too! I often work with heart docs doing their procedures so see a lot of those valves
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:52 pm
I have a great anesthesiology
I have a great anesthesiology story. Last February I had pretty major abdominal surgery, and they put in a dilaudid spinal so that I could press the button for pain relief. A couple of hours after surgery the pain started increasing. The nurse told me to press the button. No relief. After a short while I was writhing in pain, and they kept telling me to press the button. Finally I screamed, "is the fucking thing even in my back?"
Within seconds there were a dozen nurses in the room. It was a blur, but they had to change the sheets, pronto, because they were covered with dilaudid. As I was post surgery, the doctor on call couldn't put in an order for meds, it had to be the surgical anesthesiologist, who they couldn't get in touch with. Oh man, I was in a level of pain like I could never imagine.
They finally got the medicine order, and I was happy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:54 pm
Dude, you got puddled with
Dude, you got puddled with Dilaudid and didn't even know it. That's crazy. I would have been licking the sheets.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 06:58 pm
I guess the sheets were
I guess the sheets were covered, which probably posed some sort of insurance risk. They were pretty liberal with it anyway, so no harm, no foul.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:07 pm
When I had my second
When I had my second operation in June, they did a morphine spinal, just for the surgery. WhT was supposed to be 1.5 hours under turned out to be 5. I woke up puking from the morphine, and one of the anesthetics or another made it so I couldn't piss. I felt so bad for my poor nurse. Every time my bladder filled she had to put in a catheter. I'd be puking as she was sticking the tube in my dick.
Is it strange that I felt bad for the nurse, when I was the one going through it? They said I was the best patient ever.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:25 pm
Great stories! Thx for
Great stories! Thx for sharing! I place those spinal catheters that infuse those meds.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 12, 2020 – 07:30 pm
After that first one, Fish, I
After that first one, Fish, I have a new "10" on the pain scale.
The "system" had to page the anesthesiologist, and there was a glitch. It was a while before they could in touch with him and get me anything.
What would stop the bladder from working? Morphine? It was strange, I had to piss so bad, but it didn't work.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, November 13, 2020 – 05:56 am
I would have to ride the "old
I would have to ride the "old mixed race guy loser train". Thanks for your service, fishcane. The hospitals should be paying you guys more money for what you have to do everyday during these times. Stay safe.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, November 13, 2020 – 06:44 am
You too, thanks!
You too, thanks!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, November 13, 2020 – 08:10 am
JR, if you have some free
JR, if you have some free time check out "Bridge Brothers" on Amazon. Gives a good look at bridge and structural painters. Tbh, I don't sign the bridge book even though it's our highest paying gig because your literally risking your life everyday and long term effects of lead exposure are no good. They also run people into the ground. You might end up working 12-14 hr shifts 7 days a week for six months or so. Not any kind of life, really. Lotta of people die every year out on those bridges.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Friday, November 13, 2020 – 11:28 am
In some positive Covid news,
In some positive Covid news, the virus has killed the Yorkshire Ripper:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-54874713
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Friday, November 13, 2020 – 02:09 pm
thanks for recc timpane. i'll
thanks for recc timpane. i'll check it out.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Sunday, November 15, 2020 – 10:03 am
Full lockdown in Austria
Full lockdown in Austria ordered
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/14/world/covid19-coronavirus-update...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Sunday, November 15, 2020 – 10:23 am
Sweden has admitted its
Sweden has admitted its coronavirus immunity predictions were wrong as cases soar across the country
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-herd-immunity-second-wave-coronav...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Sunday, November 15, 2020 – 11:32 am
From Timmy's link:
From Hoover's link:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 – 06:11 pm
Sweden changes course. In the
Sweden changes course. In the spring, Sweden opted for a lighter touch in managing the virus. But responding to a fall surge in cases, the government abandoned its old approach, announcing its strictest limitations yet and warning of darker days ahead.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/world/abandoning-its-loose-approach-t...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 – 07:02 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 – 07:07 pm
Guess we can stick a fork in
Guess we can stick a fork in the Sweden model
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:23 am
How's the US model doing?
How's the US model doing?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:43 am
We don't have a national
We don't have a national model, boss.
What is wrong with you?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:55 am
Why are you mad already? Not
Why are you mad already? Not healthy to be like that during breakfast.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:57 am
Saying that the Sweden Model
Saying that the Sweden Model isn't working isn't a claim that anyone elses is so I'm not sure what the point of that question is
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:57 am
Who's mad?
Who's mad?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:03 am
It's hard to have a policy
It's hard to have a policy when half the population thinks it's a hoax, a scam, or just doesn't give a fuck. It's even harder when the leader of the nation fuels those beliefs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:05 am
They enforced some serious
They enforced some serious restrictions there which I think are actually pretty harsh. Up to six months in jail for violating some of the enforcements. Wow.
That being said their deaths per day total still extremely low and their overall cases per day have dropped. Their position isn't that horrible for how the second surge hit them. There is no national mandate BK this is true. In democratic states th year seem to be filling similar state mandates though. I don't actually think these states are in terrible positions but economic shutdowns seem to be headed around the nation soon.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:09 am
Are Great Britain and US more
Are Great Britain and US more defiant to the coronavirus than other countries, BK? Honestly, I'm asking if you have any evidence of this or that's just your opinion? If it's just your opinion respect that, I'm just asking if you have seen something that says that. I personally haven't seen or met anyone who thinks it's a hoax. I have seen people relaxed with the masks at work but not in stores or anything like that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:10 am
Just keep giving out free
Just keep giving out free money! Don't worry, the government will save you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:42 am
Focusing on what the failing
Focusing on what the failing states and nations are doing wrong isn't the way to look at it. Instead, maybe we should look at who is doing it right: https://www.endcoronavirus.org/green-zone-rankings#countries
Granted, a lot of the "best" are small island nations with low populations, so take them out of the equation. What are the others, like Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Thailand, and most of Africa doing correctly? I saw a report on Africa the other night. There it's because the people give a shit. They dealt with Ebola, and they know how to deal with this. In spite of poverty they set up sanitizing stations and wear masks. All it comes down to is making some damn sacrifices.
If it's bad now in the US, it will be horrible by New Years. People don't want to sacrifice their big Thanksgiving dinners or their extended family Christmases. Those are the spreader events.
The other day Vermont's Republican goverrnor made a statement. It's worth reading:
"I know for many, getting together with family and friends over the last few months has been so important. But I'm hoping by laying out what's at stake, it will motivate Vermonters to follow this guidance so we can get back together again soon, and safely.
***
I also want to speak to the skeptics again. Make no mistake, I understand that if you want to ignore the science or choose not to believe it for one reason or another, there's not much we can do to stop you.
But I want to be clear: The number of people in hospitals is growing because some care more about what they want to do rather than what they need to do to help protect others, keep kids in school, keep people working and prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed to the point where care is being delivered in makeshift hospitals. It's a fact that the consequences of an overwhelmed healthcare system will have a far greater impact on our economy and our well-being than all the prevention and mitigation measures in place across the country.
So, again, the skeptics are right. They can do what they want. But please don't call it patriotic or pretend it's about freedom. Because real patriots serve and sacrifice for all, whether they agree with them or not. Patriots also stand up and fight when our nation's health and security is threatened, and right now, our country and way of life is being attacked by this virus, not the protections we put in place.
***
Look, I understand getting together with family, especially during the holidays, is important. And I understand how hard it is to be asked to keep making sacrifices. As I said last week, I haven't seen my mom or my daughter in nearly a year. But right now, we're in the middle of a pandemic and we're seeing record growth.
And this growth is not because of tourists. It's not because of restaurants. It's not because of gyms. It's not because of schools. It's because adults continue to get together with other adults - multiple households, inside and outside - in situations, usually involving alcohol, where they stop taking precautions. And then they're going to work, sending their kids to school, visiting another neighbor who works in a nursing home and spreading the virus at each stop. I don't believe anyone is doing this on purpose, but it is what's happening.
I hear the anger out there, the frustration, the anxiety and the sadness. And I get it. So, if you need to take it out on someone, send it my way - I can take it. But what I can't take is seeing this continue to grow, because it's putting our healthcare system, our economy and many lives at risk. So, you can question our methods but I'm asking you to please do your part to help."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:14 am
Bk, with all do respect, VT
Bk, with all do respect, VT is a much more manageable state than somewhere like NJ and or NY. It will most likely get worse eveywhere in the world as far as cases but if we are treating people faster and folks are not dying I'd say that's a good thing seeing that the cases are on an upward trajectory.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:24 am
1923 people died because of
> folks are not dying
1923 people died because of Covid-19 in the US yesterday.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:25 am
>>>>>>Just keep giving out
>>>>>>Just keep giving out free money! Don't worry, the government will save you.
Are you referring to the one time stimulus of $1200? Because other than that less than $5 per day they're only giving money to businesses.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:29 am
>>Bk, with all do respect, VT
>>Bk, with all do respect, VT is a much more manageable state than somewhere like NJ and or NY
Um, I'm well aware of that. My point is that people everywhere have to make some sacrifices, and keep them up. I think that this holds true for almost everywhere: And this growth is not because of tourists. It's not because of restaurants. It's not because of gyms. It's not because of schools. It's because adults continue to get together with other adults - multiple households, inside and outside - in situations, usually involving alcohol, where they stop taking precautions. And then they're going to work, sending their kids to school, visiting another neighbor who works in a nursing home and spreading the virus at each stop. I don't believe anyone is doing this on purpose, but it is what's happening.
>> treating people faster and folks are not dying I'd say that's a good thing
Yes, but do you remember the point of flattening the curve? It's to spread it out so that the health system isn't overwhelmed. People will start dying because there won't be access to the treatments. That's what most health officials have been saying since day 1, and it still holds true. The Dakotas are at a critical mass, as are other states. Trump's ultimate goal is herd immunity, which is why he still does nothing.The road to get there is turning out to be gnarly. Plus, it's looking like there will be long-term health implications for many who recover, even if they didn't have it too bad.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:32 am
Timpane, I just noticed you
Timpane, I just noticed that you haven't posted in Tim's "I'm Back" thread. Maybe you should pay it a visit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:33 am
Timpy, you are/were a fan of
Timpy, you are/were a fan of herd immunity, correct? Wasn't that the point of this thread? How'd that work out for Sweden?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:39 am
today
today
https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 11:00 am
Lockdowns could be avoided if
Lockdowns could be avoided if 95% of people wore masks, says WHO
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/europe/coronavirus-europe-lockdown-tiers-...
Someone in Europe is dying every 17 seconds from covid-19, WHO says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/coronavirus-europe-death-who...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 11:57 am
>>>>>>Just keep giving out
>>>>>>Just keep giving out free money! Don't worry, the government will save you.
Didn't Margaret Thatcher sarcastically say that?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 12:41 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 01:01 pm
^ what are you saying with
^ what are you saying with your graph ken?
because this is what trump is saying, oddly similar
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 01:35 pm
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 01:36 pm
Wel, 1,250 deaths a day, and
Well, 1,250 deaths a day, and on an upward trend, is nothing to brag about.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 06:22 pm
We lost a 28 year old woman
We lost a 28 year old woman today to COVID, no underlying health issues... this virus doesn't care how old you are. The defiance of the 20 and 30 somethings is once again starting to show the fallacy of the thought process.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 06:45 pm
a meme buddy said that it has
a meme buddy said that it has a 99% recover rate.
that true?
if so is 1% a lot?
there are lots of white people so angry with gavin newscum.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 06:59 pm
The figures I've seen (daily
The figures I've seen (daily totals on the TV crawl) show a 2 to 2.5 % death rate among infected persons.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:06 pm
BK, it is likely the virus
BK, it is likely the virus has mutated which in that case herd immunity is unlikely but the installment of the virus seemed to decipher on the same trajectory as the countries who imposed mass shutdowns. If so most likely coronavirus will never go away and be like the flu every year getting a different vaccine to try and combatant it but it seems the new mutation has spread even quicker than the first installment.
If Covid mutates and gets weaker though and does not kill at the same rate then that is a good thing.
The WHO waited to call the coronavirus a pandemic and put the world at more risk. On top of that they acted as a mouth peice for the Chinese government to the world. They are directly responsible
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:07 pm
Timpane is a Trumper?
Timpane is a Trumper?
That makes sense.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:11 pm
^Nope. You're just incapable
^Nope. You're just incapable of having a conversation with someone with a different opinion than you without calling them a "trumper". Seems very close minded.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:13 pm
numbers are gonna go up
numbers are gonna go up
always different from whatever source (by design)
chaos agent is out
mask and glasses when venturing out for your essentials,
social distancing included.
why give the virus the satisfaction of killing your neighbor?
no cuts
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:40 pm
99% recovery rate>>>>
99% recovery rate>>>>
According to Google it's around what surfdeads figure is which would be 98-97.5% recovery rate. Under 60 is around 99%.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 07:45 pm
he's under 50 still so he's
he's under 50 still so he's ok with that i guess.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:06 pm
The coronavirus is five to 10
The coronavirus is five to 10 times more deadly than the flu for those between the ages of 0 and 45. It is 12 1/2 times more deadly than the flu for those over 85. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compare...
And that doesn't even account for the long-term effects that we're just starting to learn about. My 80 year old uncle got it in April, and was really close to going on a ventilator. He pulled through, but has had pneumonia ever since. The guy never smoked or drank, and played racket ball and worked out multiple times a week. For a guy his age he was a pillar of health and healthy lifestyle. It's been 7 months and he can barely walk from room to room without getting winded.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:06 pm
100% of businesses that are
100% of businesses that are shutdown, will go out of business. Is that tough math as well?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:12 pm
Is a business a person?
A Business is not a person.
If a business fails, does someone die?
meanwhile, back in realityville, check out the $2 trillion Payday protection Program/ small business grant program, intended to help small businesses to stay "alive":
(the $60 billion Trump sent to farmers is socialism, but if they are white, all good)
200,000 a day, with 2,000 dead is about 2 weeks away.
Does being "pro-life" mean anything at all?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:14 pm
Yeah, they're learning that
Yeah, they're learning that most businesses don't have to shut down. They may have to temporarily limit occupancy.
I know that it's hard for fiscal conservatives to wrap their head around it, but the actual cost of doing nothing to stop it far outweighs the cost of subsidizing businesses and increasing unemployment.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:16 pm
That 2 trillion is long gone.
That 2 trillion is long gone. So is the 4 tril given to wall st. If anyone payed attention the stock market had a horrible day and will likely get worse if NYC and NJ shuts down. Those stimulus packages only go so far when the banks are suffocating the entire country.
If people lose their businesses and their homes and their lives is that ok with you, Manfred?
There's many industries which are still practically completely shut down like musical events. Also limtiting occupany could still resort in businesses shutting down. If you're trying to pay rent in NYC, NJ, Philly and you have to limit yourself or just start doing worse because of take out then you could be done within weeks. Many shops in my small city have already gone under.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:19 pm
If people die, is that OK
If people die, is that OK with you, Timpane?
(I support massive government stimulus at this time, and have since 2008...if you have paid any attention to the past two decades here on the zone, you might have notcied that I am a hardcore Keynesian).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:22 pm
No, but I can't stop that. i
No, and I can't stop that. i can't stop shut downs either but I do think it's incredible that no relief will come from the banks who are ultimately causing many people to go bankrupt. Governments are asking people to limit their business but still they have to pay their way through the same bills they were seeing at full capacity. Congress also doesn't care enough to pass anymore stimulus packages for working people and it's been almost a year. People are dying and more will die, unfortunately.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:24 pm
we do not disagree, Timpane.
we do not disagree, Timpane.
k?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:26 pm
You know, if we had a real
You know, if we had a real contact tracing program they could do localized and rolling shutdowns, which would be far less detrimental.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:29 pm
Ok.
Ok.
I have seen contact tracing but not a lot of it. It can't really be made mandatory because of how the constitution is written. They also can't make it mandatory that you don't have parties and or people over for thanksgiving or Christmas. All governors can do is ask and the municipalities can issue tickets that would likely be throw out in court.
Like I said, and while I was originally just kidding maybe Covid Satan is really just coming to get us. There might be nothing we can' really do.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:45 pm
red pill tim
^ red pill tim
#docs
* fluffer, stop...
you couldn't help yourself, smh
now some science
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:46 pm
There's a lot we can do, but
There's a lot we can do, but every option is a no win situation. It's then about minimizing the damage.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:50 pm
If small businesses become
If small businesses become corporations then they are people and can get some of the 3 fucking trillion tax payer dollars we just instantly gave the corps last time?
but can't have health care or education.
mmhm. Yeah
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 08:52 pm
^ how ya explain that to the
^^ how ya explain that to the agro-pops?
mtn.dew extreme y'all
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:00 pm
Covid Satan doesn't sleep and
Covid Satan doesn't sleep and lives in the hearts of the 55+ causing fear and disruption. Your only way out is Covid Jesus, Thod.
Sweet Dreams
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:04 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:06 pm
Twelve years? Curiously long
Twelve years? Curiously long life for a common garden rat! He's missing a toe, isn't he?
your pussy showin'
smh
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:18 pm
^^^Hahahaha, if it comes down
^^^Hahahaha, if it comes down to Pelosi reputation, her 100k ice cream fridge or an economic crisis relief bill you know which two come first.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:38 pm
Regardless of your politics,
Regardless of your politics, you should watch this. Pelosi's nephew Gavin Newsom, the governor of Calif., and his corona virus hypocrisy, just a couple days ago:
Obey your master.
https://youtu.be/jk-O2Td-CzA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:44 pm
^ metallica vid pro-shot,
maybe...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:49 pm
Regardless of your politics,
Regardless of your politics, watch Tucker Carlson go on a 10 minute partisan rant against a Democratic politician who did something stupid.
Who fucking cares?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 09:55 pm
yea, let's change the...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:17 pm
Tucker Carlson?
Tucker Carlson is linked in this thread?
derp
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Thursday, November 19, 2020 – 10:23 pm
Linking Tucker Carlson in
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 11:16 am
laughing out loud.
laughing out loud.
ha ha...lol.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 11:57 am
Tucker was funnier back when
Tucker was funnier back when he wore a bow tie.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 12:02 pm
Tucker loved it when the GD
Tucker loved it when the GD broke into Touch of Grey. (YES!)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: joy blackrock
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 12:33 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 01:04 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 03:00 pm
Sweden introduces alcohol
Sweden introduces alcohol curfew as 'superspreader events' are curbed
A nationwide ban on the sale of alcohol in bars and restaurants after 10 p.m. comes into effect across Sweden from Friday. It's another measure being introduced by Stockholm to curb the rising spread of COVID-19 cases after gatherings were limited to eight people.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/11/20/coronavirus-sweden-introduces-alcoho...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 03:40 pm
0 cases (of Svedka) and 0
0 cases (of Svedka) and 0 deaths (due to DWI) reported in Sweden
9/10/202011/20/2020Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 04:12 pm
i saw an older man face plant
i saw an older man face plant in stockholm in the train station. he was hammered.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 04:17 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Friday, November 20, 2020 – 08:07 pm
Obey your master.
Obey your master.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 11:25 am
Obey your master. Oregon,
Obey your master. Oregon, the most confused state in the nation. If you agree with the governor of Oregon that you should call police if you see neighbors having gatherings for thanksgiving, you need your head examined.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/22/oregon-gov-kate-brown-urg...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 12:29 pm
Racket, all this "Obey your
Racket, all this "Obey your master" stuff is making me think you have some daddy issues.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 12:49 pm
meanwhile...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 01:05 pm
"Obey your master" my ass.
"Obey your master" my ass. How about caring for your fellow humans and just wearing a fucking mask, because it's the right thing to do?
Nobody is making me mask up when I go out. Nobody is enforcing my 14 day quarantine because I went out of state. I do it because there's a fucking pandemic that's killing people, making others really sick, and leaving lifelong health issues. I can deal because I have a littled something called humanity.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 02:49 pm
no offense timpane but I
no offense timpane but I think you were wrong about Sweden.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 03:23 pm
Sweet thread though.
Sweet thread though.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 03:59 pm
washington times...
washington times...
lol, the hits keep comin'!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 04:39 pm
Covid Satan has made it clear
Covid Satan has made it clear he wants part of the Aryan Race, JR. Sweden thought they were in the clear and now they're just like every one else. Hopefully all the evil people over 55 get what's coming to them.
Too long have we fucked up this beautiful world. It's now Covid Satans time.
Time for him to stick his Covid filled dick right in the world
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 04:52 pm
It's an equal opportunity
It's an equal opportunity killer. We pronounced a healthy 27 year old last week who thought she'd be fine at the college Halloween parties and bar scene. I met the family, everyday Americans who now get to bury their daughter instead of watching her finish med school
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 04:56 pm
Statistics show that Covid
Statistics show that Covid Satan much prefer elderly but anyone can get hit. A non obese 27 ye old with no pre existing conditions dying from covid is quite rare, statistically
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 05:01 pm
And a 27 year old in med
And a 27 year old in med school dying from Covid strikes me as unnecessarily tragic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 05:30 pm
and biden and the dems still
and biden and the dems still won't support M4A.
truly tragic.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 05:35 pm
^^non obese 27 ye old with no
^^non obese 27 ye old with no pre existing conditions dying from covid is quite rare, statistically
Right. But it's happening so enjoy the gamble...but even more tragic is when you the non symptomatic carrier gives it to five other people who may not share your luck with the dice roll cuz ya didn't know ya had it. Not something I'd want to live with. Maybe your conscience is a lil easier to hide from then mine
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 05:36 pm
The ACA is still on trial at
> the dems still won't support M4A.
The ACA is still on trial at the Supreme Court, and while it looks like they won't be invalidating the entire law, it would probably be best to let the dust settle a bit on that matter before starting a hard push for more.
You can call me a pragmatist, but I will not answer to neoliberal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 05:48 pm
Most homeowners I see on the
Most of the homeowners I see on the job don't wear masks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 06:07 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 06:50 pm
Is being a "carrier" the new
Is being a "carrier" the new thing to hate now, Fish? I'd say you're a carrier since you work around Covid patients all day but that's not a bad thing. I'm taking a gamble either way, one I can choose to go to work where there are around 100 guys on site working or I can stay home and watch my savings disappear while I pays bills until the covid satan disappears.
Guess I will roll the dice. I'm ok with that. I'm also ok if Covid Satan gets me. I'm prime at 33 for disease to strike. I' m more sympathetic at the moment to those with brown skin dying from drone bombs at the hands of our government than Covid.
Maybe we and Great Britain are getting what we deserve. Maybe our false reality of what the world was has now vanished and we live just like those countries where we were taking lives everyday and now we live with that same fear.
Maybe we are getting what we deserve.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 06:51 pm
^^Covid Satan likely what he
^^Covid Satan likely what he sees...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 06:57 pm
^^being a "carrier" the new
^^being a "carrier" the new thing to hate now, Fish?
Eh, why would I hate? That's just the important reason for wearing a mask, silly. It's negligent not to and poor responsibility
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:09 pm
You know, Timpy, that taking
You know, Timpy, that taking simple precautions doesn't mean living in fear?
In your caring about brown skinned people around the world, do you have the same caring for brown skinned people in your own backyard? COVID Satan is effecting black and Latinx populations, on many levels, in much higher proportions. When you say, "maybe we are getting what we deserve," are you taking those populations into account?
Critical thinking???
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:17 pm
Covid Satan doesn't
Covid Satan doesn't descriminate, and he certainly likes them old. We are all part of a fucked up humanity, no? That means we are all technically responsible. If somebody died in Syria because of a drone bomb then I was directly responsible. Unfortunately, yea the poorest and brownest skin people in USA seems to always get the worst of the situation but Covid Satan is at least making an attempt at the Aryan Race. People are living in fear, BK. If they weren't then they would be hoarding TP.
You wear your mask for Covid. What can you wear to protect you from a drone?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:23 pm
I may be hit by a car or a
I may be hit by a car or a plane so I may as well be reckless while I'm at it. Lol k
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:24 pm
Stick to the topic. You sound
Stick to the topic. You sound like one of those Westboro Baptist Church freaks. Americans of all colors and creeds don't deserve to die because of things our government does.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:35 pm
What are you talking bout, BK
What are you talking bout, BK? Don't twist my words into your bullshit. Maybe, we as a country are getting what we deserve. Our government works for us. You do understand, right? We pay their salaries but we don't stick together and work together. Instead we get convinced that the people are the issue and working against each other we keep getting fooled over and over.
The government works for us. We are the Union. Take some responsibility.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:37 pm
Well, if your parents or in
Well, if your parents or in-laws get it, maybe you can give that speech at the memorial service.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:39 pm
Oh, and I really don't have
Oh, and I really don't have to twist your words. You're doing a hell of a job if it for yourself. smh, lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:42 pm
And there it is, you just
And there it is, you just showed you lack of unity and your need for division. I have no control of my parents or my in laws. I don't wish harm upon anyone but I have no say. I hope they are ok and I have faith that if they do the next right thing that they will be.
I thought you had "humanity" lol. That last post sounds like a resentful child with nothing but contempt.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:45 pm
Try as you may, you're not
Try as you may, you're not getting a ZOTY nomination out of all this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:46 pm
I don't think you're writing
I don't think you're writing anything well enough to critique someone else's writing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:46 pm
Covid Satan is coming for you
Covid Satan is coming for you because you're weak and frail. Don't worry about my parents, creep. Worry about yourself. You're at high risk.
Troll along, Bk. Troll along..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 07:49 pm
I have more nominations than
I have more nominations than you do in the ZOTY thread, BK. Pretty sad man. All the time you spend here desperately asking for attention and no one even really likes you enough to nominate you.
Covid Satan will get you. Just watch.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:01 pm
Well, okay.
Well, okay.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:06 pm
Glad we had this talk, BK.
Glad we had this talk, BK. Just watched the very first episode of "The Twilight Zone" on Netflix. It reminded me of you on the zone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:12 pm
Covid Santa will kick Covid
Covid Santa will kick Covid Satan's ass. Bank on it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:15 pm
Based on that post, I'd guess
Based on that post, I'd guess that you just watched Mean Girls.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:24 pm
I've never seen it, so I
I've never seen it, so I guess the devil made me do it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:26 pm
Not you, Mike, Timpy's
Not you, Mike, Timpy's "nobody likes you, na na na na goo goo" post.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:26 pm
A nurse's perspective on
A nurse's perspective on Covid
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/covid-stimulus-help-desperate-icu-...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:34 pm
Mean Girls? Lol
Mean Girls? Lol
sounds like you're a pretty hip 50ish yr old
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:56 pm
>> How about caring for your
>> How about caring for your fellow humans and just wearing a fucking mask, because it's the right thing to do?
Bk, I have no problem wearing a mask and keeping distance.
In the defund the police era, where police departments up and down the west coast, are not responding to calls except for the most serious of crimes, the irony that the gov of Oregon is asking her constituents to call police about Thanksgiving gatherings is pure fucking gold.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 08:58 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 09:23 pm
Only the names change...
Only the names change...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 09:52 pm
<<<>>>The ACA is still on
<<<>>>The ACA is still on trial at the Supreme Court, and while it looks like they won't be invalidating the entire law, it would probably be best to let the dust settle a bit on that matter before starting a hard push for more.
the aca was written by corporate healthcare lobbyists -- it should be repealed and replaced w/ m4a immediately.
there's no "letting the dust settle" when it comes to saving lives, providing basic human needs like healthcare.
your logic is crafted by corporate media (entertainment news).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 10:09 pm
how does joe give us m4a
how does joe give us m4a
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 – 10:58 pm
By raising your taxes.
By raising your taxes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:46 am
Instead of M4A Biden's
Instead of M4A Biden's incredible new healthcare will be..... Biden Care. Lol. Neo Libs on the edge of their seats for that one
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 06:26 am
I heard that Covid Satan
I heard that Covid Satan wants to take Timpy's Mom on a hot date.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 06:35 am
He might, RRG. If you're free
He might, RRG. If you're free later he has no plans for tonight yet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:04 am
Sorry, Timpy - looks like the
Sorry, Timpy - looks like the facts don't back you up. Guess you better stick to painting stuff cause you're a lousy epidemiologist. (Don't feel bad, I don't want my doctor doing infrastructure maintenance either.)
Nov 24
There’s little evidence that herd immunity is helping Sweden combat the coronavirus, according to the country’s top epidemiologist.
“The issue of herd immunity is difficult,” Anders Tegnell said at a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday. “We see no signs of immunity in the population that are slowing down the infection right now.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-24/sweden-says-it-sees-n...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:26 am
Somebody had to try it, Allen
Somebody had to try it, Allen. Don't apologize to me though. Would have been a good thing if herd immunity worked, no? Sweden got covid dicked. Is what it is. Sounds like you're happy it didn't work, lol. You're a real asshole I'd say, Alan.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 08:59 am
>>>>> it should be repealed
>>>>> it should be repealed and replaced w/ m4a immediately.
Well, Trump and his crew want to repeal it, so there's step one. Unfortunately there's no majority in Congress to pass anything better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 09:05 am
>>there's no majority in
>>there's no majority in Congress to pass anything better.
This very important fact seems to be lost or ignored.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 09:26 am
Those who ignore science tend
Those who ignore science tend to ignore facts
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 10:04 am
again, most americans support
again, most americans support m4a.
that's a fact.
i'd say the people who support the neolibs like pelosi and feinstein, schumer and harris, don't support science.
you have biden tweeting (lol) that his admin will listen to the scientists, then in the next tweet, harris saying they won't ban fracking, which the scientists say must happen. haha.
defend that, you corporate apologists.
same parties folks, but keep thinking they're not.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 10:18 am
We've been through this, ogkb
We've been through this, ogkb. Although 70% of Americans say they support universal healthcare, for most it is not their main voting issue. As a result, they aren't voting in politicians who will represent that point of view, at both the state and federal levels. The politicians who do support it are considered "Progressive," and most Americans won't vote progressive. That's just a fact. You can call med names for pointing it out, but I'm just the messenger.
A lot of work needs to be done to get from point A to point Z. The ACA got us to point D, but it's a continuum. We have to keep plodding forward and making steady and positive changes. It can happen. It won't, however, if people like you don't take a lead and help to get the nation on that path.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 11:42 am
<You're a real asshole I'd
<You're a real asshole I'd say, Alan.>
You would say that. But I forgive you. You are 33, right? I appreciate your youthful tenacity.
No need to spend the rest of your life in the land of the under-educated, though. Maybe work on your GED with all this spare time on your hands. Idealism + stupid = embarrassing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 12:30 pm
Keep up the good work kid.
Keep up the good work kid. With our favorite political operative missing, you can be the new Bryen of the Zone -- just with medical advice instead of election results. Dr Timpy.
And while I truly appreciate anyone that works hard for a living...
...I'm thinking that the painting bridges thing is really:
great work on the underpass last week, Doc.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 12:40 pm
<<Instead of M4A Biden's
<<Instead of M4A Biden's incredible new healthcare will be..... Biden Care. Lol. Neo Libs on the edge of their seats for that one
You voted for the guy so just shut the fuck up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 01:06 pm
Hey, Alan. Welcome to "The
Hey, Alan. Welcome to "The Old White Guy Loser Train", Welcome! As it rolls along you will find yourself in a great position to question why you're even wasting your time posting on this site. Congrats are your inauguration. Hope you enjoy sniffing your own farts the rest of your boring old geezer life. Covid Satan will come and find you you scarred old man.
I voted for Obama the first time too, JR. He was also a piece of shit. What's your point?
Any old guys I'm missing who would like to be on the train?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 01:14 pm
Oh and Allen, it's a good
Oh and Allen, it's a good thing hat people like me do the job that we do.
If we had a bunch of washed up, paper pushing, cave dwelling burnouts doing our jobs then they'd have a lot of guys shitting in their old grab dad panties out on the steel everyday. You're welcome!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:00 pm
Dr Timpy,
Dr Timpy,
Ha, You're so stupid or unobservant, you can't even spell my name correctly and it's right there in front of you. Idiot. You probably read the words "warning - lead paint" and think it means it's the first coat to brush on.
Isn't it dangerous to work on bridges with the cars whizzin by?
I think you are a trolling sock persona actually, but I'll leave you with my two painter jokes anyway:
Q: How does Salvador Dali start his mornings? A: With a bowl of "Surreal"
Q: Why did Van Gogh become a painter? A: Because he didn't have an ear for music.
Happy Thanksgiving, kiddo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:14 pm
Every day is Festivus here!
Every day is Festivus on Viva!
maybe save a little airing of the grievances for the actual holiday?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:21 pm
Alan, making fun of someone's
Alan, making fun of someone's occupation is pretty fucked up. While I don't get along with Timpane, I also would never make light of shit like that.
What do you do besides post stupid pictures and suck up all the oxygen in threads?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:25 pm
And a Merry early festivus to
And a Merry festivus to you, JR
Is Timpane a painter?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:26 pm
It plays pretty frickin'
Alan's stuff plays pretty frickin' funny to me.
((((( Dr. Timpy )))))
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:29 pm
Alan definitely has some
Alan definitely has some funnies and his posts are mostly spot on.
I do have to give credit to JR for this hystercial and accurate post. Doesn't happen often, so let's all take the time to give him a round of applause
>You voted for the guy so just shut the fuck up
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:35 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 04:38 pm
I think that Alan has been
I think that Alan has been pretty spot on as of late. I don't think that he's making fun of his profession, just his stupidity.
And let's be fair, ol' Timpy has no qualms about calling names, attacking people for their age, accusing people of "white privilege" as a slam, whatever he wants. He's been trolling here since before he was legal to buy booze. I think that he can handle a little ribbing, about whatever comes his way, especially for being a friggin' moron.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:11 pm
JR - isn't it obvious what I
JR - isn't it obvious what I do based on my Zone handle? Duh. Is there a strain of stupid weed going around?
And you're right. But since he's not real, what's it matter to you? I mean, what 33 year old man spends his time posting insults to old guys on a Phil Lesh dbmb? A fake one, I think. Or some really bored kid that stole his dad's password. Either way probably the only steel Dr Timpy has ever touched is a shopplifted bag of chips from the Cum and Go. You can take your medical advice from him if you want.
And thanks for policing the Zone. I feel much more secure. Did Judit formally deputize you, or something? The dude called me an asshole right outta the gate, which may be true, but ya gotta lead up to it if you want to contribute. Just another troll. Now can you write him a ticket or something?
Speaking of contributing, just what have you provided the Zone lately? You just pop in and spout off -- no fashion advice or anything. Before you start criticizing bub, you may want to look in the mirror.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:14 pm
The Covid Satan shtick is the
The Covid Satan shtick is the lamest thing we've seen since Gregulator decided he was funny.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:38 pm
IF I DON'T GO TO WORK, PEOPLE
IF I DON'T GO TO WORK, PEOPLE DIE!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:43 pm
<<And thanks for policing the
<<And thanks for policing the Zone. I feel much more secure. Did Judit formally deputize you, or something?
Duh. I've been a member of Jr. Admin since 2008, you idiot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:52 pm
He's no Newf that's for sure
He's no Newf that's for sure
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 05:53 pm
I never imagined this thread
I never imagined this thread would get to 499 posts.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 06:31 pm
>Duh. I've been a member of
>Duh. I've been a member of Jr. Admin since 2008, you idiot.
does anyone want to tell him?
maybe just easier to give him another round of applause
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 06:38 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 06:46 pm
A lot of old bitter men on
A lot of old bitter men on this thread claiming.At the very least maybe I rattled up a little testosterone in those useless low sagging nuts you carry around with you. Alan, nice melt down bud. 3.8. You claim I have nothing better to do but zone then spend all day picture trolling lol. Awesome.
not real >>>>
Lol, believe it or not ol timer. I'm as real as the cancer in your beaten up prostate.
Good night and Happy Thanksgiving to all you jerk offs. You're welcome for this thread. I'll think of my next masterpiece soon enough.
Covid Satan awaits ya'll....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:04 pm
This thread needs some Abba.
This thread needs some ABBA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqV49us4J8
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:12 pm
"Dancing Queen in Quarantine" by the EWP Mamma Mia Cast and Band!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPcT_x-4Uqg
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:20 pm
I have your back in case you
I have your back in case you didn't notice, Timpane.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:33 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 – 07:41 pm
I have plenty of testosterone
I have plenty of testosterone in my nuts, thanks. Granted, I have to order it from Uzbekistan and pay with Bitcoin, but I have plenty.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, November 26, 2020 – 01:27 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Thursday, November 26, 2020 – 02:01 pm
Bitcoin is tanking!
Bitcoin is tanking!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, November 27, 2020 – 05:53 am
Thanks, JR. I appreciate that
Thanks, JR. I appreciate that. Right now the total hourly package for a NJ Union bridge painter is around 90/ hr. Full pension, Retirement annuity and medical. Laugh all ya want, I guess.
Trying to think of the next thread to make it into the holidays. Maybe the next one will have less arguing.
And congrats about your juices still flowing, BK. Seriously.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Friday, November 27, 2020 – 05:16 pm
Happy Day after Thanksgiving,
Happy Day after Thanksgiving, Timpan.
Thanks for sharing your financial situation though I am curious why you were compelled to type that info.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Friday, November 27, 2020 – 06:46 pm
I know the thread is long but
I know the thread is long but there was a section where people were making fun of bridge and structural painters. I was just pointing out that it's very good career for people want to work. Anyways, I don't work on the bridges at the moment and all the different union wages are public for anyone to see in any state. Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Jaz.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Saturday, November 28, 2020 – 06:33 pm
https://www.nydailynews.com
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ny-sweden-doctor-coronavirus-seco...
A real zero.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 01:43 pm
how's sweden looking today?
how's sweden looking today?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 06:25 pm
^A lot better than California
^A lot better than California
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 06:44 pm
Sweden is having an increase
Sweden is having an increase in deaths, but its nothing like what is going on in the US. Shit is out of control:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 07:47 pm
In case someone isn't clear
In case someone isn't clear about what they should do, wear your fucking masks! (Stay home if you can, wear mask, wash your hands, wear your mask.)
Care about your friends, family and neighbors, wear your mask! When you're out of your house and not in your car, wear your mask everywhere!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 09:38 pm
Judit, it seems silly to me
Judit, it seems silly to me that some still have to address the content of your statement. Yet thanks for the persistent reminder.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 09:50 pm
More people are wearing masks
More people are wearing masks than they ever have and cases still going up... Maybe it's just the doom of man. It's all good. Just might be time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Monday, December 7, 2020 – 09:50 pm
Was at the store today.
Was at the store today. Apparently there are folks out there who think that if you wear your mask you don't have to keep your distance.
You have to do both!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:57 am
whimpy timpy
whimpy timpy
you really are unbelievable - just how stupid can humans get?
very sad
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 07:16 am
^Covid Satan coming to get
^Covid Satan coming to get you next lltd. Go get in the 287 million person line for the vaccine....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 08:39 am
LLTD has a grateful dead
LLTD has a grateful dead tattoo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 09:59 am
>>>>>I know the thread is
>>>>>I know the thread is long but there was a section where people were making fun of bridge and structural painters.
Actually we were making fun of a painter thinking he is an infectious disease expert.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 10:10 am
^I guess the other zoner day
^I guess the other zoner day jobs are more qualifying.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 11:03 am
Nah, it's just that the other
Nah, it's just that the other opinions seem to be more based on science and guidance from experts. Your expertise seems to spurt out of your ass.
Funny, too, that you get your panties in a bunch when you perceive that people are making fun of your job or ogkb's, but you've spouted far worse shit about others.Your comments to Fish were disgusting. But hey, you do you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 11:08 am
making fun of is fine --
making fun of is fine -- searching me out online posting shit to me on my account and looking for pics, that's a little different.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 11:14 am
I looked you up that one time
I looked you up that one time, but honestly can't remember either your name or the name of your shop. Some of the reviews were memorable, though., like not being a place to bring kids because you were loudly talking about psychedelic use. That was hilarious.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 11:34 am
who posted shit on your
^^ who posted shit on your account?
you've been projecting that for some time.
ive looked, never would post anything...
that's fucked up
so again, who posted shit, name names...
or shut the fuck up, you paranoid fuck.
that's some whiney lil bitch shit
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:07 pm
I knew Bk would be back to
I knew Bk would be back to whine and cry like a little bitch. Dude you sexually harassed a woman at your work place. Maybe you should just shut up when it comes to peoples occupations and workplaces. Fish acts like a pompous little asshole and I told him to fuck off and stop murdering people with the ventilators. If you have a problem then post somewhere else.
I don't have a problem going against scientists. They pedal information for large companies trying to capitalize. Just like how they told you cannabis destroys your brain function years ago. Scientists and doctors can be wrong just like they were at the beginning of the pandemic putting too many people on ventilators.
Sorry if that's gets you all angry inside.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:14 pm
Scientist and doctors brought
Scientist and doctors brought you the opioid crisis. Right now we should put our faith in them though, right? Same people who were trying to give you OxyContin for a back ache trying to take the spotlight now, go ahead and worship all you want, you fucking jerk off
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:15 pm
Sounds like you're the angry
Sounds like you're the angry one with a problem.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish Jazfish
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:20 pm
This conversation is
This conversation is fascinating.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:20 pm
You're a jerk off, BrianK.
You're a jerk off, BrianK.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:21 pm
4.9
4.9
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:24 pm
> Scientist and doctors
> Scientist and doctors brought you the opioid crisis.
This isn't really correct. It's more like unscrupulous corporate execs, salespeople, and doctors brought us the opioid crisis. I trust the (much) larger scientific and medical community.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:26 pm
While there are bad apples in
While there are bad apples in every field, and big pharma is a guilty party, not everyone prescribing narcotics is doing so you get hooked on them. Pain management is an important part of healing. I guess it's the government's fault that your an alcoholic for making it legal. The age of accepting responsibility for poor choices has made way for the find someone to blame generation
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:31 pm
Scientists purposely created
Scientists purposely created a pill form of heroin knowing it was one molecule away from the drug with the intent to distribute. Doctors pedaled it chasing bonuses and incentives. I don't trust them. You can if you like.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:32 pm
Thanks, Timpane. I will trust
Thanks, Timpane. I will trust them until they give me a reason not to.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:36 pm
^Cool, maybe you can get some
^Cool, maybe you can get some ego strokes on Facebook for that. You trust lawyers too?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:41 pm
I haven't been on FB in 7-8
I haven't been on FB in 7-8 years, so you can stop searching for me there. And my ego's fine the way it is, thanks.
When did the conversation turn to lawyers? My uncle Mike was a lawyer, and I trusted him, but I guess that's not plural.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:42 pm
Who do you trust?
Who do you trust?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:43 pm
I'm not on Facebook either
I'm not on Facebook either and unlike Tod and BK and don't go looking for zoners I don't know to try and harass them
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:43 pm
I trust Jerry Garcia. Always
I trust Jerry Garcia. Always did. He was just funny like that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:51 pm
I'd say, just by today's
I'd say, just by today's posts, you're the only one doing any harassing.
What's more corrupt, unions in New Jersey or doctors?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 12:56 pm
Me too... I had the great
Me too... I had the great fortune of meeting him once and he acted as if he'd known me for years. He was just another cat on the street that day. Got out of a dodge van with "the family wagon" emblazoned on the rear wheel cover...even waited while I got something for him to autograph for me
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:00 pm
Very cool, fish, I never got
Very cool, fish, I never got to meet JG, but I trusted my brain with him more times than I can remember.
This thread needs some lutefisk.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:09 pm
>>>>>Scientists purposely
>>>>>Scientists purposely created a pill form of heroin
Nope. Science figures out how stuff works; engineering figures out how to make stuff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:16 pm
thod stalks my business
thod stalks my business account and take info from there to here.
judit -- what do you have to say about that?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:16 pm
>>>>^I guess the other zoner
>>>>^I guess the other zoner day jobs are more qualifying.
lol
No, everybody else agrees with the actual infectious disease experts. You're the one who thinks they know better.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:19 pm
>>>>>Just like how they told
>>>>>Just like how they told you cannabis destroys your brain function years ago.
That didn't happen. It was cops, teachers, and your parents telling you that. I
t was/is a schedule one drug. Scientists weren't allowed to do research on it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:20 pm
> thod stalks my business
> thod stalks my business account and take info from there to here.
Where did that happen? I must've missed it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:23 pm
thod, come tell the group how
thod, come tell the group how you're a piece of shit.
we're waiting.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:29 pm
>>> thod stalks my business
>>> thod stalks my business account and take info from there to here.
judit -- what do you have to say about that? <<<
so you name me?
here's my theory motherfucker...
you are the same lil prick in real life as you are here.
people have left shit reviews because your cocksucker.
and your ego needs a scapegoat.
here's the deal kid
there are plenty of people that lurk and post on this board that know me.
they also know that if i had a real problem with you
i wouldn't be posting whatever shit you claim on a review page
i'd bring it right to your fucking doorstep...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:31 pm
>>>Scientists weren't allowed
>>>Scientists weren't allowed to do research on it
Timmy, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Scientist have been researching cannabis for a long time. At first they did those studies on monkeys brains and as a result in your phys Ed classes your were taught about the negative effects of marijuana on the brain. They researched it, believe it or not. I was literally tought in high school about the effects of cannabis on your brain and how it actually creates holes and destroys your brains and that was based on scientific research. Now we have science completely disregarding those reports and do research on cannabis as a medicine.
And yea, scientists and engineers worked together to create a pill form of heroin knowing how it was going to distributed. That's how it works.
Just like when scientists were developing nuclear energy. I guess they had know idea it would be used to make weapons of mass destruction, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:31 pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
here's the deal kid
there are plenty of people that lurk and post on this board that know me.
they also know that if i had a real problem with you
i wouldn't be posting whatever shit you claim on a review page
i'd bring it right to your fucking doorstep...<<<<<<
lol tough guy. That's probably worse.
Why are you the way you are?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:34 pm
Where's Turtle when you need
Where's Turtle when you need someone to say This is why we can't have nice things?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:35 pm
what would you do at said
what would you do at said doorstep?
assault him?
call him bad names?
kick his dog?
lol, timely mike.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:35 pm
>>>>> I was literally tought
>>>>> I was literally tought in high school about the effects of cannabis on your brain and how it actually creates holes and destroys your brains and that was based on scientific research.
Please provide a link to the research.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:35 pm
Here'a some research they did
Here's some research they did in the late 70s, Timmy. Scientists weren't allowed to research it? Lol. Not sure what your talking about.
https://archives.drugabuse.gov/sites/default/files/monograph31.pdf
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:37 pm
Damn, Turtle. Your timing is
Damn, Turtle. Your timing is immaculate. lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:38 pm
i'm not playing hypotheticals
^^ i'm not playing hypotheticals
he's accusing me of shit
and i don't play like that
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:40 pm
What page does it say it puts
What page does it say it puts holes in your brain on?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:41 pm
>>>>>Lol. Not sure what your
>>>>>Lol. Not sure what your talking about.
I was talking about it being a schedule 1 drug. But I was wrong (see how easy that is) Schedule 1 drugs can be researched just not used for medical purposes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:42 pm
It's not really play anymore
It's not really play anymore when you threaten to show up on someone's door. Take a step back, guys, and ask yourself what would the Prime Minister of Sweden do?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:44 pm
And here's how your argument
And here's how your argument is flawed/wrong. You are saying scientists are wrong all the time and using one study (not a global scientific concensus), but saying masks don't work despite almost every single scientist on the planet disagreeing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:46 pm
Yes, you were 100% wrong.
Yes, you were 100% wrong. Glad you came to that conclusion. I was taught from around 8th grade through to senior year in high school about the harmful effects of marijuana. Not sure what anyone else was taught. Scientists were wrong. Now they have stiduies refuting that evidence as it was based on monkeys and rats and not conclusive to evidence in human studies.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:46 pm
^ context mike
^^^ context mike
they also know that if i had a real problem with you
i wouldn't be posting whatever shit you claim on a review page
i'd bring it right to your fucking doorstep...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:47 pm
The Swedish scientists don't
The Swedish scientists don't agree. It took the CDC a while to say that was a fact. They change their guidelines every two weeks it seems like but still pretend to know what they are talking about.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 01:56 pm
What's the story today, gents
What's the story today, gents? Is everyone okay?
Seems a little aggro, as they say... it's a bit much.
How 'bout changing your strain, stepping back, taking a break? (I read where you said you don't partake, timpane, what gives you a change of scene?)
This is the only black screen Zone we've got - be good to one another.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:00 pm
Everybody's cool Judit. THOD
Everybody's cool Judit. THOD made it pretty clear that he'd only drive hundreds of miles to physically assault Pyramid if he actually had a problem with him. But since THOD is cool as a cucumber and doesn't really have a problem with him it was just a hypothetical.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:01 pm
hahahahahahhaha.
hahahahahahhaha.
thod w/ the classic 5.0.
nice.
what a mess.
and a bitch.
cocksucker......jeez
<<<>>>I looked you up that one time, but honestly can't remember either your name or the name of your shop. Some of the reviews were memorable, though., like not being a place to bring kids because you were loudly talking about psychedelic use. That was hilarious.
<<<>>>
nice man. nothing wrong w/ that.
it's more like a living room -- tubes being passed, dab rigs at the bar -- def not for kids.
i think thod would write a 1 star review b/c i wouldn't give him parm on the side -- thod, you seem like that kind of needy bitch that always has to get what they want at a restaurant.
what a loser.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:02 pm
If you go back into the
If you go back into the thread you can read what I said. N95 or N99 masks are made with a rating from a safety organization. It means those masks protect against 95% or 99% of viruses. They literally test those masks for that purpose. Yes, those are more than preventative, they actually are effective against stopping the virus. A cloth mask has no rating so whatever "prevention" it has, you wouldn't know and is unproven. If you wear mask and your still within distance of someone that is sick then you can still get sick so what kind of preventiveness are they offering? You still have to maintain distance and still wash your hands. I guess people look cool in bandanas?
Are those not fair questions to ask? Wouldn't you like to know a percentage of the effectiveness of a mask you are wearing?
If the virus is airborne that means it can also get in your eyes as well.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:03 pm
what a great thread.
what a great thread.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:06 pm
masks don't work and
masks don't work and marijuana causes holes in people's brains.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:08 pm
i thought ether caused the
i thought ether caused the holes?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:09 pm
Ether fills the holes.
Ether fills the holes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:10 pm
damn so indonhave cannabis
damn so i do have cannabis holes and need an ether connect.
thod?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:12 pm
>>> If the virus is airborne
>>> If the virus is airborne that means it can also get in your eyes as well. <<<
This is what I wore when I couldn't avoid lying down in a smallish room with a group of roving medical pro's over me.
A KN95 covered by a 3-layered cloth mask with a 2.5 filter in it, and these goggles.
A friend called me ninja judit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:14 pm
^^ that's how you wanna play kid?
>>> judit -- what do you have to say about that? <<<
lol, pussy
now go tell your brother.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:15 pm
tell him you're a little
tell him you're a little bitch? lol, he knows man.
everybody here does.
bad look, thod.
please keep doubling down tho -- it's hilarious.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:16 pm
When I had an epidural last
When I had an epidural last week, I had my mask on the whole time. They also made me wear a hair net thingy, which is odd because I'm bald as a cue ball.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:16 pm
Should be good with that,
Should be good with that, Judit. I'm not the kind of person to walk into someone's store without a mask or try and get close to people and breathe on them or anything like that. I respect people's rules and am not looking to make anyone feel uncomfortable.
I don't mind wearing a mask. It's kind of like wearing a condom. Just feels better without one.
I ask a lot of questions and they are probably offensive and all but I'm harmless. I did call BK a jerk off too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:18 pm
Speaking of asking questions,
Speaking of asking questions, why did you stop doing rugs, Timpane?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:21 pm
>>>>>Just like when
>>>>>Just like when scientists were developing nuclear energy. I guess they had know idea it would be used to make weapons of mass destruction, right?
Actually, it was developed as a weapon before it was used for power generation. The guys who worked on the Manhattan Project were not happy about that use of this technology, but Hitler was also working on a nuclear bomb.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:23 pm
^^^^^ your deflection/projection is who you are
you can only get away with it for so long tho
poser.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:26 pm
Not happy about the use of
Not happy about the use of this technology.>>>
I have heard this, yes. Unfortunately, every one is "just doing their jobs" in the end.
I stopped using rugs because I ruined my life by using them. Pretty simple haha. Over two years later, a lot of things are better but I'm still a continuing work in progress, MikeEdwards.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:29 pm
hey man -- at least i don't
hey man -- at least i don't let some "kid" get me all bent out of shape. you're a loser.
you stalk my page, then take terminology i use and use it here to troll me. very strange. what about a review? you left one of those too? i don't care about that.
you've even trashed the way i look, which is fine, but you have done it multiple times and obviously stalked the page to get your ammo or whatever.
how old are you man?
now you're threatening to beat me up? hahahahahahahahah
rough look.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:31 pm
Condoms don't make my glasses
Condoms don't make my glasses fog up. So, I'm cool with masks AND condoms.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:31 pm
I can relate, Timpane. I quit
I can relate, Timpane. After doing a lot of damage, I quit drinking and doing hard drugs at the end of 1992, and I'm still a work in progress.
> Condoms don't make my glasses fog up.
It sounds like you might not be wearing them right, Ned.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:35 pm
On some morning news show I
On some morning news show I saw this litmus test for masks:
- light a candle. Can you get a lot of flame movement (or blow it out) if you blow on it while wearing your mask?
- Pour water on the mask. Does it hold it in or does it seep right through?
I have since changed my masks. For general use I now wear basic surgical masks. For close quarters I wear KN95. To be honest, they are way more comfortable than any of the 20 types of cloth masks I've accumulated.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:36 pm
judits right, you do need to
^^^^ judits right, you do need to change your strain man
your paranoid af
glad I could help
4.9
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:37 pm
We should do a Zoom session
We should do a Zoom session and all get baked together sometime.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:39 pm
Timpy can smoke a CBD spliff.
Timpy can smoke a CBD spliff.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:40 pm
That's the holiday spirit, BK
That's the holiday spirit, BK.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:42 pm
We can all do lines of CBD
We can all do lines of CBD distillate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:44 pm
I'll take a hard pass on the
I'll take a hard pass on the CBD lines. A fatty of some tasty OG will do me just fine.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:47 pm
If we have the Zoom session
If we have the Zoom session while watching Antiques Roadshow, and there's a $1 million evaluation, ogkb will drop 1,000 mics. That would be really fun.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:48 pm
♦♦
♦♦
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 02:50 pm
The Zoom session thing could
The Zoom session thing could be cool, if we could figure out a day and time that worked for everyone.
While I'm here, I might as well drum a little support for my Europe 72 thread. The deadline for the giveaway is Saturday, and we still haven't heard a story from BK, ogkb, and T.O.D., not to mention Timmy, Turtle, Ned, JR, and judit too.
https://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/europe-72-holiday-giveaway
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:06 pm
thank god for threads like
thank god for threads like this or viva would have been toast a long time ago.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:15 pm
Its the most wonderful time
Its the most wonderful time of the year.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:40 pm
I still drink coffee.
I still drink coffee.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:43 pm
Coffee is a beautiful thing.
Coffee is a beautiful thing.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:45 pm
thod when can i expect you
thod when can i expect you and your shitty family?
you have to quarantine.
takeout only.
i'm down BK. i probably won't be talking much.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 03:59 pm
>>> thod when can i expect
>>> thod when can i expect you and your shitty family? <<<
lol
smh
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 04:19 pm
^bitch.
^bitch.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 04:50 pm
^ you kiss your brother with
^ you kiss your brother with that mouth?
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:07 pm
^no, but i'd spit on your
^no, but i'd spit on your wife w/ it.
covid free, of course.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:08 pm
Edit: I just can't figure out which one of you is Jerry and which is George.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:17 pm
>>> ^no, but i'd spit on your wife w/ it. <<<
take a lap kid
go sleep it off
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:22 pm
i look forward to the meet.
i look forward to the meet.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:28 pm
sure thing cupcake, lol
sure thing cupcake, lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:33 pm
ogkb never saw Jerry
ogkb never saw Jerry
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:38 pm
fuck no i didn't.
fuck no i didn't.
jr -- how does this thread make you feel?
thod, i have no problem taking your money. please introduce yourself.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:42 pm
yea, you might've mentioned that
might wanna hit the gym, you sounding pretty soft served
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:46 pm
what's the even mean?
what's the even mean?
very strange you continue to just look at my business page and bring it here.
you just did.
maybe viva will have to ban you.....? we all know you'd throw a fit.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:50 pm
>>> what's the even mean? <<<
um, you sound soft
now how did I bring any of your shit to viva
you've literally talked about your ice cream game
go look it up
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5.0 and finger on the button
lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:51 pm
JR, I thought you were young
JR, I thought you were young as for a zoner. When did you see Jerry?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:52 pm
you just did -- as you have w
you just did -- as you have w/ other terminology i never used here but you use to troll me.
im just saying that's weak.
you said you'd come to vermont to beat me up. lol.
i just said i'd spit on your wife and take your money.
haha.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:52 pm
jr -- how does this thread
<<jr -- how does this thread make you feel?
a 1/4 hard
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:58 pm
Thod has a 1/4 chub for
Thod has a 1/4 chub for pyramids Instagram page
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 05:59 pm
>>> you said you'd come to
>>> you said you'd come to vermont to beat me up. lol. <<<
here's what I said soft served
here's the deal kid
there are plenty of people that lurk and post on this board that know me.
they also know that if i had a real problem with you
i wouldn't be posting whatever shit you claim on a review page
i'd bring it right to your fucking doorstep.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:01 pm
^Even creepier in italics
^Even creepier in italics
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:03 pm
<<there are plenty of people
<<there are plenty of people that lurk and post on this board that know me.
i honestly thought your were a b-rad sock
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:05 pm
thod, just shut the fuck man.
thod, just shut the fuck man.
you're known as the zoner who stalked another zoner's business social page.
lol.
what a loser.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Without a net T.O.D.
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:15 pm
^ lol fuckin' poser
^ lol
fuckin' poser
*you don't even have a fucking clue
spit on my wife
smh
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:52 pm
fuck yeah son.
fuck yes.
and your bitch ass has been melting alllll evening.
you even changed your handle, tough guy.
what a joke you are.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 06:57 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 – 11:07 pm
i have hung with JR a bit -
i have hung with JR a bit - it has been a long time tho- was it a DNB show in small bar north of mill valley somewhere?
he was cool
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 07:23 am
^ Cool story, brah.
^ Cool story, brah.
Still waiting to hear about when JR saw Jerry. Not saying it didn't happen, but he must have been quite young.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 10:30 am
I saw Jerry when I was 16.
I saw Jerry when I was 16 and JR is older than me. How old were you Timpane?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 10:43 am
I never saw Jerry. I was
I never saw Jerry. I was seven when he died.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 11:28 am
Wow ur a lot older than I
Wow ur a lot older than I would have guessed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 12:22 pm
Timpane, please stop asking
Timpane, please stop asking me such personal questions. i hold the times i personally bonded with Jerry through his music close to my chest.
That was the first time I'd ever seen naked women up close and it was really awesome.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 01:41 pm
^ Yea, those are memorable
^ Yea, those are memorable times in a mans life.
Fishcane, here's your chance to set the record straight.
Did you vote for George W. Bush in 2004?
Yes or No?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 01:50 pm
Timpy...how do you zone so
Timpy...how do you zone so much while "working"?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Blue Rose Task Force Rock And Roll Goddess
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 01:51 pm
Why do I get the impression
Why do I get the impression that Timpy is Touch Head Spawn.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 02:06 pm
We just finished up the job I
We just finished up the job I was on day after Thanksgiving so I'm laid off right now. Couple side jobs in the midst but I have some free time at the moment, Ned.
Touch Head Spawn>>>
I wish but no. Parents not deadheads. Might have seen Jerry if they were.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 02:17 pm
Nice, enjoy your time off,
Nice, enjoy your time off, Timpy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 – 02:56 pm
Thanks.
Thanks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, December 17, 2020 – 10:25 am
Fail
headline:
Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'
https://bbc.in/2J3EQ4M?fbclid=IwAR3A5-ecbyCkhw3i-1iQaMSZJ8M6svqmDG0ap6zW...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Thursday, December 17, 2020 – 01:44 pm
King Carl quote "Boy, We sure
King Carl quote "Boy, We sure fucked up"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Thursday, December 17, 2020 – 01:47 pm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Old Fart Message Board Mr_timpane
on Thursday, December 17, 2020 – 02:08 pm
Sweden did a lot better than
Sweden did a lot better than USA. California seems to have zero answers at all. 65k cases in one day.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Thursday, December 17, 2020 – 03:10 pm
Timp's had quite the midas
Timp's had quite the midas touch lately with a few threads with big # counts. I remember the days when that used to be me :(.